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00:55.14 | LoH | ugh, I need to update the brlcad wiki page for GSoC |
00:56.05 | LoH | Is there a plan to do 2019 GSoC (assuming it is still a thing) |
00:57.00 | LoH | brlcad: where was the project list again? |
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05:43.36 | brlcad | LoH: there is a plan, still trying to get things set up -- last year projects are at http://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/Project_Ideas |
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14:32.14 | LoH | brlcad: thanks\ |
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15:04.24 | teepee | brlcad: so I have copied the main documents and added a couple of project ideas for openscad and slic3r - I think it's now possible to see how it would look like - while still not going nuts for page design and such (which I can't do anyway) |
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12:38.15 | teepee- | brlcad: so what's your view on the github site? should we go ahead with that https://opencax.github.io/ ? |
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19:56.20 | LordOfBikes | teepee, thanks for asking about GSoC, LibreCAD is in |
19:57.02 | LordOfBikes | concerning the opencax github site, I think that's great, let me know if I can help |
20:38.38 | teepee | I'd like to get some feedback from brlcad and once we agree that is ok to go, we can invite people and finish the details |
20:39.41 | teepee | LordOfBikes: that should happen in the next couple of days I hope, IIRC the announcement about orgs was on 26th... |
20:40.12 | teepee | yep February 26 12:00 UTC List of accepted mentoring organizations published |
20:44.17 | LordOfBikes | teepee, sounds good |
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01:48.58 | brlcad | teepee: ah, nice progress! was blank just a couple days ago when I checked :) |
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18:43.38 | tehquickness | I was wondering how active is the BRL-CAD community? |
18:44.17 | tehquickness | It seems like it is dead or nearly at a standstill but its hard to get a sense of who is using it or contribution to it |
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12:51.27 | tbrowder | anyone seen sean? |
12:51.45 | tbrowder | er, brlcad%? |
12:52.30 | tbrowder | .ask brlcad have you seen my emails? |
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07:04.57 | brlcad | teepee: apologies on the delay responding but it looked great to me |
07:05.12 | brlcad | I think we should run with it if we can |
07:10.10 | brlcad | tbrowder: I'm a bit behind on e-mail, so no I haven't just yet but I did see your name in my upcoming queue of mails |
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11:39.02 | tbrowder | brlcad: i fugured you are swamped, but then i just started worrying about you, but nothing urgent here |
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16:25.37 | teepee | brlcad: sent out a couple of invitations to the github org - just as member, I'll leave status promotion to you :) |
16:28.05 | teepee | I did ask Gina from octoprint if she would be interrested, I guess we can talk after the org publication again |
16:29.06 | teepee | I wonder if it would make sense to also ask klipper (new 3d printer firmware project) |
17:06.53 | starseek1r | brlcad: I'm getting ready to tag - anything you know of that is a show-stopper? |
17:07.52 | brlcad | starseeker: not show-stoppers, no |
17:08.13 | starseeker | anything pending that's worth holding off a day or two? |
17:08.30 | brlcad | littany of bugs being worked |
17:08.45 | starseeker | um. eta? |
17:08.59 | brlcad | I think the most important is probably the gqa issue, but still not a release blockr |
17:09.51 | starseeker | k - I'll roll then, and we can follow on with a patch if we need to |
17:13.46 | brlcad | unrelated, I think I've settled on a workable solution for primitive descriptions, to replace the ad hoc tcl listings, and perhaps be the serialization backend for commands too |
17:14.08 | brlcad | will write it up after I get through these bugs/issues |
17:14.57 | brlcad | related to release, the metaball bug might be the only worth holding on since it affects |
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17:18.43 | starseeker | brlcad: ah, right, the metaball issue. |
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17:19.47 | starseeker | brlcad: if we can swat that one quickly that's a point, but I think it's also present in older releases? (i.e. we aren't introducing a regression?) |
17:20.05 | brlcad | I did not check that |
17:21.45 | brlcad | just tested, it's at least present in 7.24 |
17:22.09 | brlcad | 7.24.0 |
17:22.19 | brlcad | so yeah, not news |
17:22.23 | starseeker | ok |
17:22.24 | brlcad | *new |
17:22.42 | brlcad | almost certainly related to the overlapping bounding boxes |
17:23.02 | starseeker | I'm not familiar with that code - how thorny is it looking? |
17:24.34 | brlcad | I don't know that yet |
17:25.04 | starseeker | k. I'll go ahead and get most of the grunt work out of the way - the merges are large this go around with the date updates in all files |
17:31.20 | brlcad | do we really have no good routine for pretty-printing a matrix? I find that hard to believe but am coming up wanting. |
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18:55.49 | starseeker | um... bn_mat_print? |
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19:07.24 | brlcad | starseeker: it sucks |
19:08.00 | starseeker | ah. yeah, that's the only one I'm aware of |
19:09.20 | brlcad | it does a straight up lossy %8.3f |
19:09.40 | brlcad | opennurbs has one and it kind of sucks too |
19:09.52 | brlcad | Matrix (4 rows 4 columns) |
19:09.52 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
19:09.52 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
19:09.52 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
19:09.52 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
19:09.54 | brlcad | MATRIX my label: |
19:09.57 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
19:09.59 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
19:10.02 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
19:10.04 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
19:10.13 | brlcad | first is OpenNURBS, second is bn_mat_print() |
19:11.40 | starseeker | hmm. you'd prefer the ability for the caller to specify numerical precision when printing out? |
19:12.50 | brlcad | optionally, but no -- by default just printing full precision without printing fuzz/noise |
19:13.17 | brlcad | like all those 1's and 0's should just be 0.0 and 1.0 |
19:13.45 | brlcad | columns should be lined up, not like this (which is what the other libbn mat print func does): |
19:13.50 | brlcad | 1.123123123 0 0 0 |
19:13.50 | brlcad | 0 1 0 0 |
19:13.50 | brlcad | 0 0 1 0 |
19:13.50 | brlcad | 0 0 0 1 |
19:14.32 | starseeker | ah |
19:14.40 | brlcad | I'm just a little surprised given how much we do this |
19:15.06 | starseeker | must confess it's only been during very specific debugging scenarios he's actually dumped the numerics of a matrix |
19:15.07 | brlcad | but I see lots of places in the code even just do a straight up iteration over 16 and %g the values 4 per line |
19:15.24 | brlcad | red/ted need it |
19:15.36 | brlcad | I think that was one of the many custom ones |
19:16.22 | starseeker | nods - I think the thinking there was that hand-editing a matrix in red/ted isn't likely to be practical (too much chance of an invalid matrix getting specified by accident) so there wasn't any point in making them pretty |
19:18.40 | brlcad | useful though if only to read it (oh, that's a scale ... oh that's a translation, etc) |
19:19.04 | brlcad | it simply does a newlineless version of the 3rd form: 1.123123123123e+00 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 |
19:19.12 | brlcad | with a space between rows |
19:19.50 | starseeker | actually, in that scenario, it would probably be more useful to present it in exactly that fashion (translate, scale, rot components) |
19:19.51 | brlcad | starseeker: did you have a function that would report the number of precision digits? |
19:19.58 | brlcad | that you were using for nirt? |
19:20.23 | starseeker | you mean when parsing it? I don't think so - I think I was using the C++ streams |
19:20.26 | starseeker | one sec... |
19:21.00 | starseeker | _nirt_str_to_dbl in libanalyze/nirt.cxx |
19:21.24 | brlcad | I can write something up for this, but still looking to not waste time if someone already has done this well enough |
19:21.27 | brlcad | looks |
19:22.42 | starseeker | don't have any pretty-printing though - nirt's bits are stricly for getting the floating point numbers in and out, while trying to be able to reproduce the in-mem number precisely for debugging purposes at need... |
19:23.39 | brlcad | hm, so actually need the reverse -- dbl_to_str |
19:24.00 | starseeker | that's the one above it, iirc |
19:24.00 | brlcad | how are you testing it? |
19:24.07 | brlcad | ah, looking again |
19:25.18 | starseeker | um. I don't know that I've actually got a proper reproducibility unit test set up - the key for me when when I could precisely replicate shots from nirt outputs reading them back in as strings |
19:26.12 | starseeker | it felt like those bits probably belong as wrapped logic down in libbn somewhere, but at the time I was focused on other stuff and the C++11 way was the 'easy' way to get what I was looking for in terms of precision control and parsing |
19:28.50 | starseeker | the dbl_to_str logic isn't actually active yet - I was setting up for ray partition diffing and reporting, but ran out of time/steam before that part got up and running |
19:30.47 | brlcad | hm, so nirt's form is interesting, full representation precision |
19:31.06 | starseeker | yeah, that was newly introduced in the libanalyze refactor |
19:31.57 | brlcad | it's not quite right for printing, at least not what was specified, but I'd have to do some homework to figure out how the other forms are getting it right |
19:32.49 | brlcad | and the undesirable repetition still for useful printing: |
19:32.50 | brlcad | 1.12312312312299989 0.00000000000000000 0.00000000000000000 0.00000000000000000 0.00000000000000000 1.00000000000000000 0.00000000000000000 0.00000000000000000 0.00000000000000000 0.00000000000000000 1.00000000000000000 0.00000000000000000 0.00000000000000000 0.00000000000000000 0.00000000000000000 1.00000000000000000 |
19:33.18 | starseeker | yeah, readability wasn't/isn't the goal in that particular case |
19:33.50 | brlcad | interestingly, only one of the four methods correctly prints what the code specified |
19:34.27 | brlcad | (i.e., double vals[16] = {1.123123123123,0,0,0 ... -> 1.123123123123e+00) |
19:35.03 | brlcad | that's ged's pretty-printer |
19:35.14 | starseeker | not sure I'm following - you're saying I've got a bug in the nirt string<->dbl code? |
19:35.22 | brlcad | looks like it just got lucky |
19:35.52 | brlcad | no, not a "bug" per se |
19:36.14 | brlcad | code is 1.123123123123, so naturally one would like to see that printed |
19:36.25 | brlcad | without resorting to fixed point or other hoops |
19:36.39 | brlcad | ged's printer got it right, but it was just by luck |
19:36.57 | brlcad | 1.123123123123 cannot be exactly represented, but is the ideal output |
19:37.44 | starseeker | ah. I'd probably check the C++ string features to see if they've got something for that, myself... |
19:37.46 | brlcad | printing full precision (i.e., what you're doing in nirt, i.e., 1.12312312312299989) is the next best output |
19:38.34 | brlcad | there's no way to know, I was just surprised one of them got it right .. turns out it used %.12e so it printed 12 precision .. |
19:39.03 | starseeker | what does %g do? |
19:39.20 | brlcad | %g is crap for pretty-printing |
19:40.34 | brlcad | it prints 1.12312 in this case, default .5 precision |
19:40.43 | starseeker | ah |
19:41.01 | brlcad | it however does a much better job on integral printing: |
19:41.07 | brlcad | 1.12312, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1 |
19:41.52 | brlcad | debatable whether 0 0 0 1 or 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 make for a better default |
19:42.25 | starseeker | would vote the former, for easier reading... |
19:42.29 | brlcad | probably sans decimal |
19:43.19 | brlcad | and I'm back to a fully custom pretty-printer that scans all values for lengths before and after the decimal |
19:43.28 | brlcad | which really seems like something we should have implemented somewhere already |
19:43.57 | starseeker | brlcad: what about %.15g - does that do anything interesting? |
19:44.06 | brlcad | I'll probably implement it and in the process of updating the 1000 places that do matrix printing find one doing it the way I wanted |
19:44.16 | starseeker | heh |
19:44.37 | brlcad | that's just 15 digits of precision, not exponential form |
19:45.01 | starseeker | won't it give you the 1.123123123123 output? |
19:45.51 | brlcad | it does in this instance |
19:49.12 | brlcad | we're getting sort of lucky that there is only one digit of precision on the lhs |
19:51.13 | starseeker | ah, k |
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22:04.00 | starseeker | finally. |
22:04.05 | brlcad | indeed |
22:04.40 | starseeker | loves those first-after-year-update merges, always a blast... |
22:05.05 | brlcad | hh |
22:05.21 | starseeker | brlcad: if you want to fire off a distcheck-full on the Mac it would be helpful... |
22:06.20 | starseeker | I'll re-confirm we're good on Windows |
22:06.27 | brlcad | sure, can do |
22:07.48 | starseeker | I usually just check make check on BSD, since afaik we still can't reliably complete due to the threading exhaustion issue |
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22:02.22 | starseeker | (can reproduce with valgrind rt NIST_MBE_PMI_11.g Document after clearing the cache folder) |
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07:24.18 | brlcad | starseeker: okay, will take a look |
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22:44.48 | hightower3 | hey any reason why http://brlcad.org/gallery/ shows blank page? |
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23:34.46 | Stragus | Mmhm, it's a 500 Internal Server Error |
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15:19.49 | starseeker | brlcad: in case it's helpful, I'm seeing the mfp->uses variable in a bu_mapped_file structure opened by a cache object getting wiped out by a subsequent bu_ptbl_init during an unrelated cache object db_open - looks like it's initializing the dbi_clients array |
15:20.42 | starseeker | and that initialization is stomping on the mfp->uses location from the other cache object. |
15:43.11 | starseeker | I guess unsurprisingly, switching dbi_clients to an explicitly BU_GET allocated container doesn't change anything. |
15:44.57 | starseeker | brlcad: out of curiosity, what benefits does the global nature of bu_mapped_file buy us? it it mainly to automagically avoid keeping multiple copies of large files in memory? |
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17:24.41 | starseeker | s/it it/is it |
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23:46.01 | AndreyMazepas | Good evening everyone, is this the right place to introduce myself and discuss about the GSoC? |
23:48.59 | Stragus | brlcad should see it eventually, I'm not sure how promptly responsive he is |
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03:16.34 | brlcad | thx Stragus |
03:18.19 | brlcad | starseeker: the error in mappedfile is glaringly obvious in hindsight |
03:29.37 | brlcad | and yes -- the mapped file reuse is a fairly significant performance optimization. consider a scene with a texture on lots of primitives -- each texture only gets loaded once. or a piece of terrain referencing a datafile used in several places, it's only loaded once. it's useful. |
03:34.33 | Stragus | Sounds like a texture manager should worry about textures only existing once in video memory, besides not reloading the file again... |
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20:59.52 | starseeker | brlcad: I'm still seeing bu_mappedfile unit test failures on Linux (serial and parallel, actually...) |
21:14.01 | starseeker | better with r72703, but still some failures |
21:18.46 | starseeker | there we go |
21:19.38 | starseeker | arrrgh. still getting crashing with the cache |
21:21.17 | starseeker | cache.c:686 -> db_open.c:366 -> malloc.c:200 -> Segmentation fault |
21:24.30 | starseeker | doesn't build on Windows - MAP_FAILED undefined, no sys/mman.h header |
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07:10.14 | brlcad | getting closer, but going to have to continue this debugging in a few hours with fresh eyes |
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15:34.26 | starseeker | brlcad: Don't know if they'll be any use for debugging, but I'm trying to get cache tests set up that will ensure things stay working once we hammer out the last issue(s) |
15:36.35 | starseeker | is there any way to make an attempt to bu_free a null pointer fatal? A quick look in the code suggests there isn't... Could we set up an environment variable or something we could set for testing purposes to make bu_free exit on attempt to free null? |
15:37.12 | brlcad | I noticed the test, sounds like a good plan |
15:37.59 | brlcad | the usual way to catch that would be a sanity macro before the free call |
15:38.51 | starseeker | if we knew where to put it... |
15:39.44 | starseeker | what I'm after is that spewage of bu_free message we got turning into a fatal error, because in a lot of cases things will "keep working" after that happens |
15:39.45 | brlcad | fwiw, i'm debugging a db_close() failure. there's some memory management issue when two processes attempt to cache at the same time |
15:40.06 | brlcad | i think that's the same bug |
15:40.27 | starseeker | brlcad: cool. Hope I didn't stomp on anything - I figured I'd work on the tests this morning after I saw you were digging into the main code |
15:40.45 | brlcad | easily reproduced because it only happens the first time an object is created and another process tries to create it too |
15:40.53 | brlcad | working on tests is golden |
15:41.13 | brlcad | I'm close it feels like something simple |
15:41.46 | starseeker | so you're seeing an actual multi-process issue (e.g. two different programs at the same time), or just multiple threads? |
15:42.32 | brlcad | in theory, it can happen with two threads or processes -- it's whenever two try to cache at the same time. |
15:42.42 | starseeker | nods |
15:42.52 | brlcad | whoever gets there second ends up with bad dbip book-keeping reliably |
15:43.27 | Stragus | Multiple processes playing in the same files, without file locking? Neat, a bit tricky too |
15:43.29 | brlcad | I'm probably adding the wrong dbip to the hash or something stupid |
15:43.54 | starseeker | Stragus: an efficient way to go bald, so far |
15:44.17 | starseeker | Stragus: locking is fine, if we need to - we're just missing a guard somewhere |
15:44.24 | brlcad | Stragus: yeah, that part actually works alright -- it's when they go to clean up their memory ... on of them stashed a bad pointer |
15:45.00 | brlcad | I don't think this is a guard issue, there's no indication -- it seems like a straight up book-keeping bug |
15:45.14 | starseeker | ah, k |
15:45.24 | brlcad | could be, of course, but so far it's straight up repeatable, not raced |
15:46.09 | starseeker | considers whether a raced bug might be hiding behind the current straight up failure, shudders, and goes back to test writing |
15:47.38 | Stragus | So it's just memory and unrelated to file locking/access... If you get desperate and want to try something new, I wrote a LD_PRELOAD memory debugger: putting each allocation between pages that core dump on access, tracking all memory allocations and their full backtraces (handy to trace memory leaks, etc.), and so on |
15:47.57 | Stragus | I actually use it all the time, it beats Valgrind for me |
15:48.16 | starseeker | I probably shouldn't be doing two rtips at once in the same program... I don't know that that is actually intended to work... |
15:48.19 | starseeker | Stragus: cool |
15:48.24 | starseeker | is that up on your site? |
15:49.54 | Stragus | I never really shared it anywhere. I wrote that once out of desperation to track a bug |
15:51.16 | starseeker | Stragus: you should sent it to the Valigrind people and have them build it in. --totally-desperate or some such option ;-) |
15:52.07 | Stragus | Eheh. Technically Valgrind is fancier, but #1 Valgrind is too slow for many uses #2 I want to core dump INSTANTLY when I access where I shouldn't, not some time later "when I use the value" as decided by Valgrind |
15:52.39 | starseeker | nods |
15:52.40 | Stragus | Ah, and #3 I like getting a detailed list of all memory allocations at any time while the code is running |
15:53.01 | Stragus | Like this: http://www.rayforce.net/mmdebug.log |
15:54.51 | starseeker | nice |
16:04.04 | brlcad | think I just found the bug |
16:04.18 | Stragus | cheers for bug-crushing brlcad |
16:05.11 | brlcad | just a a stray db_close() where we shouldn't be closing anything |
16:06.15 | Stragus | Sounds like a typical double-free. I thought you would a debugging mode #define for bu_alloc and bu_free (hence the wrappers), catching that stuff and more |
16:06.30 | Stragus | you would +have |
16:06.33 | brlcad | starseeker: simultaneous rtips should work just fine... |
16:10.37 | brlcad | Stragus: a bit more complicated. this isn't allocation-related, it's a handle to reference counted memory mapped files that are stored in a hash -- code pulled the handle from the hash to see if it was there... closed it (mind you it's still in the hash), then went to use it again. that was all good and fine until it came time to clean up and shut down, and a bit of naive code simply iterated over the |
16:10.42 | brlcad | hash and closed everything (because it should only be there if it's open) |
16:11.14 | brlcad | could've caught that it was already closed, but that would have just masked the mistake. just took a bit to find where it was getting closd prematurely |
16:12.07 | Stragus | nods |
16:20.45 | brlcad | Stragus: sounds like you implemented _FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 |
16:21.10 | brlcad | mind you, with some fancy stack printing instead of just detect and abort |
16:24.47 | Stragus | I thought _FORTIFY_SOURCE was only for glibc calls? |
16:25.09 | brlcad | forget which OS, but there was one out there (maybe openbsd, solaris, I forget) for a while whose libc had all allocations set up to intentionally incur a fault. some of that carried over to Mac with their libc as well. |
16:25.18 | Stragus | I want a core dump the moment I step over a byte I shouldn't, anywhere |
16:25.26 | Stragus | Cool |
16:27.21 | Stragus | (technically, my mmdebug has mechanisms to exclude some allocations from the mmap stuff, 12288 bytes of overhead per malloc() can cause trouble) |
16:28.17 | brlcad | yeah, _FORTIFY_SOURCE tries to do the least expensive and only checks when access via some call (iirc, they could have gotten more advanced), but the OS-level one was definitely any access. read one byte past a char[12] - boom, segfault. |
16:29.13 | Stragus | Neat. Yes, I'm not surprised others have done it before, it's very handy |
16:29.18 | brlcad | there was a lot of commotion back at the time because so many apps wouldn't run when they turned it on |
16:29.26 | Stragus | Ahah |
16:31.01 | Stragus | I had to put some exclusion mechanisms for various reasons, for example the NVIDIA GL drivers malloc'ed 3 bytes then later read 4 bytes from that address |
16:36.53 | starseeker | probably openbsd, that sounds like their style |
16:43.55 | brlcad | starseeker: just slammed through a bunch of tests including deleting cache mid-processings, read-only, dozens of simultaneous collisions ... so far looking good. |
19:49.06 | starseeker | brlcad: sweet |
19:49.33 | starseeker | I've got at least some of the tests in place (not actually shooting the rays yet, but the cache bit is there) |
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19:50.02 | starseeker | I haven't figured out what I'm doing wrong with the rtip yet |
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20:36.35 | starseeker | brlcad: are you able to run the cache test rt_cache 5 10 successfully? |
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20:52.16 | starseeker | hang on, I'm doing something wrong with mappedfile.c... |
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21:39.27 | starseeker | brlcad: OK, r72749 and r72751 may do it - need to try some real tests and have a go on Windows |
21:44.47 | starseeker | brlcad: should the rt_cache tests follow through and actually do a shot, or do we not need that level of validation? (I'm going to add some basic sanity checks on number of files present, but setting up the all-up shot validation is a bit more infrastructure...) |
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00:20.47 | starseeker | confound it... |
00:26.45 | starseeker | getting an erratic and not reproducible recurrance of the nil free problem |
00:41.56 | starseeker | ah, got gdb on it: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hd9xYxkXTp/ |
00:47.17 | starseeker | brlcad: hmm... the db_close at cache.c:635... how could another thread get to that dbip before closure? |
00:48.58 | starseeker | It shouldn't be in the cache at all, if I'm reading this right - cache_read_dbip will create a new one with db_open... |
00:53.12 | starseeker | could another thread generate the same temp file name if it hits the same object at the same time? I don't know how robust uuid is... |
00:55.18 | starseeker | brlcad: in some ways, I almost wish we could do a tree walk, build the set of all unique objects, and then process that list so we could be sure none of the threads were trying to prep the same object at the same time... |
00:58.39 | brlcad | gah |
00:59.21 | starseeker | brlcad: here's what's in the dbip: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/shN5vDMhtB/ |
00:59.39 | starseeker | I've still got gdb on it if there's anything else to be gleaned |
00:59.46 | brlcad | per original question, don't think the unit tests should actually do shot validation |
01:00.00 | starseeker | nods - works |
01:00.17 | brlcad | i'm still looking at the changes you made to see if I understand them correctly |
01:00.39 | starseeker | nods |
01:01.26 | starseeker | to see the behavior I was seeing, just revert my changes and run any of the rt_cache tests (e.g. rt_cache 1) |
01:02.12 | starseeker | it was trying to re-populate the mapped_file list after calling free on it that caused the blow-up |
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01:05.50 | brlcad | at a quick glance, db_close() looks like it may not be entirely threadsafe |
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01:23.44 | starseeker | brlcad: I was considering trying to use subprocesses to hit test caches with multiple processes simultaneously, over and above threads... is that worth doing, or does the multithread testing provide all the benefits we might see there? |
01:25.01 | brlcad | separate concerns |
01:27.27 | brlcad | in theory the rename construct made it fully multiprocess-safe now barring maybe some obscure moments when the cache directory is first constructed when the version file is created |
01:27.34 | brlcad | the cache files themselves should be golden and my manual hammering seems to confirm that |
01:27.55 | brlcad | that said, can't hurt so long as the tests are bugfree ;) |
01:28.46 | starseeker | heh. OK, I'll see what I can cook up |
02:08.42 | starseeker | finishes round one of test code consolidation |
02:09.13 | starseeker | I'll try the subprocess stuff tomorrow |
02:09.17 | starseeker | must get trash |
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05:58.20 | brlcad | that does it for now |
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10:56.42 | starseeker | brlcad: with trunk I'm getting "(nil) free ERROR free mapped file pointers |
10:56.50 | starseeker | building the sample .g files |
10:59.58 | starseeker | stack smash is back with rt_cache 1, follows the "free ERROR" message. |
11:00.10 | starseeker | however, all bu_mappedfile tests pass |
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11:23.59 | starseeker | reflects and thinks he needs to add another mappedfile test... |
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17:57.19 | Stragus | Hey guys. It's not the channel's topic but I figured you would know legalese. There's a piece of code I wrote for myself, put copyright on it, then used it for work projects, hence unlimited/unrestrited rights to SURVICE. And now some other guy wants to buy the copyright, so that all code in their project is under the same copyright (the company) |
17:57.50 | Stragus | If I do that, what happens with previous copies used in personal projects, in SURVICE projects, wherever else? |
17:59.11 | Stragus | Apparently, that "other guy" prefers to pay to have uniform copyright, even if the only conditions with my copyright was "Use it for whatever you want, just keep that comment block with my name in the source code" |
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19:14.55 | Stragus | (Clarification regarding previous question, that would be a transfer of copyright but still with unlimited/unrestricted rights for me, but I don't know if I can forward that indefinitely to SURVICE and elsewhere) |
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01:05.08 | starseeker | Stragus: I'd check with a lawyer on that one |
01:05.43 | starseeker | brlcad: what about snarfing in https://github.com/libressl-portable/openbsd/blob/master/src/lib/libc/stdlib/realpath.c to libbu and making it do what we want? |
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03:43.17 | Stragus | starseeker: *sigh* A lawyer, right. I was trying to avoid such a hassle... This is silly, I'm almost trying to give my code away to the guy, but he wants the company's copyright on it |
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15:22.33 | brlcad | Stragus: that's a huge it-depends, particularly with respect to whatever agreement you have with SURVICE. if you don't have something saying otherwise, using personal code for work can result in a transfer of ownership to an employer. if that has occurred, as opposed to some irrevocable worldwide unlimited license use, then you would not be able to sell it to this new 3rd party. I would recommend |
15:22.40 | brlcad | against that anyways as people with that mindset are likely to want to exercise their ownership, otherwise they wouldn't ask for that. |
15:23.54 | brlcad | If you want to sell and think you still have rights to do so, you could offer them a non-exclusive license (not copyright transfer) |
15:25.43 | brlcad | Stragus: if you can't put a standard flexible license on it (like apache2 or mit etc) and be done with it, that would be highly suspicious.. |
15:31.29 | Stragus | brlcad: I have an agreement with SURVICE, I often bring in personal code, I keep the copyright and both SURVICE and U.S. government gets unlimited/unrestricted/perpetual/transcendental rights |
15:32.34 | Stragus | I don't really want to sell anything, the guy just wants to bring the code in his project, and he wants uniform copyright over all the code for reasons |
15:35.09 | Stragus | And he says I would still get unlimited/unrestricted rights to the code, so I could keep using it anywhere (even in SURVICE and elsewhere?...) |
15:35.17 | Stragus | Also, argh, what a mess |
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16:21.24 | brlcad | Stragus: I wouldn't without consulting a lawyer for those reasons. smells fishy under guise of "he just wants ... for reasons". well you just want to keep copyright for ... reasons too. let him have unlimited unrestricted rights. unless he's offering you a very large pile of cash and you're okay with the worst case happening (e.g., he sues you for using his code) |
16:23.32 | brlcad | you could very easily accidentally agree to revocable rights, so you can keep using it today anywhere, but maybe not tomorrow |
16:25.25 | brlcad | he could even in good faith give you proper unlimited rights and then deliver/sell the code to some other company who might then sue you for infringement. You'd win the lawsuit, of course, just after going bankrupt defending yourself. |
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00:29.41 | starseeker | brlcad: fwiw, user testing with the latest librt cache revs was successful |
00:33.06 | brlcad | that's great to hear (sort of) |
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20:55.49 | starseeker | brlcad: ../src/gtools/gex.cpp: In function âvoid hexdump(const unsigned char*, const unsigned char*)â: |
20:55.52 | starseeker | ../src/gtools/gex.cpp:235:29: error: '0' flag ignored with precision and â%xâ gnu_printf format [-Werror=format=] |
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20:55.55 | starseeker | ../src/gtools/gex.cpp:240:32: error: '0' flag ignored with precision and â%xâ gnu_printf format [-Werror=format=] |
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20:56.25 | starseeker | gcc version 7.4.0 on ubuntu |
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23:54.04 | louipc | hows the brlcad project goin |
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13:23.32 | brlcad | louipc: hi, it's going alright, not as active as other times, but we're in the middle of gsoc and gsod mentoring right now |
13:23.55 | brlcad | most chat has moved to zulip |
13:24.01 | brlcad | brlcad.zulipchat.com |
13:34.57 | louipc | cool. I see you have a desire to change documentation source format |
13:37.43 | louipc | i have had success with asciidoc which is similar to markdown but is still docbook |
13:38.09 | louipc | http://asciidoc.org/ |
13:38.53 | louipc | also supported by github website for formatted viewing |
13:41.50 | louipc | nice i see antora.org uses asciidoc |
14:17.52 | louipc | i dont think this zulip thing is for me man. way too busy/complex |
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21:05.59 | brlcad[m] | Cool, you can connect to our IRC room via rio.im |
21:06.03 | brlcad[m] | er, riot.im |
21:06.17 | brlcad | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#freenode_#brlcad:matrix.org |
21:07.18 | brlcad[m] | uploaded an image: human.png (626KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/hTMBXydEEFrnDxNXOkemPQuS > |
21:07.21 | teepee | yup, doing that with #gsoc for a coule of weeks now :) |
21:07.31 | brlcad[m] | Testing image sharing. |
21:07.46 | teepee | not sure if the notification settings in the mobile app are detailed enough to join all rooms |
21:08.02 | brlcad | do you know how long matrix keeps uploaded files like that? |
21:08.36 | teepee | no idea, i joined there really just those maybe 3 weeks ago ;) |
21:09.03 | teepee | I do have a contact already though, calls itself riotbot :D |
21:10.38 | brlcad | heh, just tried that .. "Sorry, I didn't quite get that. Please try again" |
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16:10.07 | ``Erik | ya'll are as terribly exciting as always |
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15:01.39 | ``Erik | so, uh, sed mode on an arb8 that happens to be axis aligned while in an axis aligned view mode, labels overlap and become unreadable. What would it take to, say, stagger 'em (and mebbe make the z far a bit darker?)... without me having to provide a patch? :D |
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00:15.03 | starseeker | the "nmg-ish" commits are work on robust meshing of NURBS solids |
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17:58.16 | pa | i mean hello |
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19:40.42 | Freso_znc | Is brlcad actually Sean or just a bot than Sean happens to run? ð¤ |
19:40.53 | Freso_znc | Oops. Joined channel with wrong connection. |
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19:41.01 | Freso | There we go. |
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19:56.28 | teepee | Freso: I believe that's actually Sean |
19:56.51 | Freso | Nice. |
19:57.48 | Freso | brlcad: Would you be opposed to a gciq PR for Py3 support dropping Py2 support? Or do you really have environments where you only have Py2 available still? |
20:00.08 | teepee | irc is pretty quiet for quite some time... in case there's no answer after a while, you could try the zulip link in the title too |
20:02.33 | Freso | Or itâll just go unanswered. Iâm not very fond of zulip. |
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17:32.08 | Freso | starseeker: https://github.com/brlcad/gciquotient |
17:32.28 | Freso | (Iâm GCI org. admin for MetaBrainz.) |
22:46.33 | Freso | brlcad: Got a reverse-gciq script almost ready now. |
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02:07.46 | TheJollyRoger-L | Hi guys. I've used PTC Creo and NX for my day job, I'm thinking of transitioning from those to BRL CAD. |
02:08.13 | TheJollyRoger-L | You guys got any heads-up for me before I download it? |
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20:42.10 | Freso | brlcad: https://github.com/brlcad/gciquotient/pull/13 if you donât get mail (or other) notifications. |
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03:14.15 | brlcad | hey Freso, not opposed to dropping py2 support -- most of the scaffolding in there was simply written to match Robert's other API scripts |
03:14.58 | brlcad | TheJollyRoger: that's awesome. please let me know if you have questions or are interested in getting involved in contributing to the project |
03:19.18 | brlcad | BRL-CAD was apparently on Hacker News a month ago, front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21148247 |
03:31.42 | TheJollyRoger | Hi hi! |
03:31.55 | TheJollyRoger | Hi brlcad! |
03:32.49 | TheJollyRoger | Well... I'm er... I'm er not much for programming yet, at this moment, not yet. I'm hoping to learn Java although I don't know how useful this will be at this very moment. But I'd really really like to learn brl cad since it would be great to have something open source and portable that could run on non-x86 PCs. |
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04:33.42 | brlcad | testing |
04:33.55 | cadzulip_zulip | @**Sean**: woot |
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04:40.23 | brlcad | cad_zulip: ping |
04:43.31 | brlcad | testing2 |
04:47.48 | TheJollyRoger | Ahoy! |
04:48.09 | TheJollyRoger | brlcad/Sean, I can see your pings and testing posts, what's up there? |
04:49.23 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: Hi TheJollyRoger! I'm working on setting up a bridge to our Zulip chat. |
04:49.40 | TheJollyRoger | Ahoy! :D |
04:49.47 | TheJollyRoger | Woah, wow! A bridge to another chat, that's awesome! |
04:50.01 | brlcad | TheJollyRoger: that way, messages are bidirectional |
04:50.08 | TheJollyRoger | That'll be great to reach out and meet more people, I'm looking forward to it ^_^! |
04:50.23 | TheJollyRoger | Ooh. They can see us, and we can see them? |
04:50.32 | brlcad | a tiny bit clunky with the way it has to relay nick names, but looks like it's working well. |
04:50.57 | TheJollyRoger | Woohoo! |
04:51.24 | brlcad | think they can only see people that talk |
04:51.44 | TheJollyRoger | Got it, and us, likewise? We only see them if they say something? |
04:55.03 | brlcad | yes |
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04:55.47 | TheJollyRoger | Got it. |
04:58.10 | TheJollyRoger | Sometime when I have more time I'm going to dig into the BRL CAD documentation. I'll have a ton of questions, I just want to make sure I get up to date on the knowledge base so I can ask the right ones. |
04:59.47 | brlcad | Sure thing, ask away. |
05:00.42 | TheJollyRoger | THanks ^_^. I don't have any particular questions at this moment, I've just been fooling around with MGED so far and wondering if there's anything like a graphical frontend to it, since I'm used to doing sketching and extrusion and sweep operations in Creo and NX. |
05:00.52 | TheJollyRoger | Heh, okay, I guess that is a question XP. |
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05:09.49 | brlcad | TheJollyRoger: MGED's graphical side is drastically different from Creo and NX. You can do many of the same things, but usually not as easily and often not as interactively with a mouse. |
05:10.12 | TheJollyRoger | Ooh, yipes, got it. That's good to know it's still possible, even if it won't be as convenient or interactive. |
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05:15.35 | brlcad | BRL-CAD also focuses on 3d solid modeling techniques, and sketching comes from the 2d drafting realm. That said, you can check out the Sketch Editor on the menu for basic editing. They can be extruded with an "extrude" object, revolved with a "revolv" object. |
05:15.55 | TheJollyRoger | Oh perfect. |
05:16.11 | brlcad | *revolve |
05:16.37 | brlcad | this is a non-GUI overview of sketch: pip install -r zulip/integrations/bridge_with_irc/requirements.txt |
05:16.40 | brlcad | Configure the bridge |
05:16.48 | brlcad | oop, this link: https://brlcad.org/wiki/Sketch |
05:16.57 | TheJollyRoger | reads |
05:17.01 | brlcad | and extrude: https://brlcad.org/wiki/Extrude |
05:18.46 | TheJollyRoger | MGED almost reminds me a little of using APT for tool paths. |
05:18.53 | TheJollyRoger | Almost. Kinda. A little bit maybe. |
05:19.29 | brlcad | yeah, that's a very low-level overview. There's a graphical tutorial somewhere where you don't hit the command line, but I don't have it handy. |
05:19.48 | TheJollyRoger | Got it. I'll search around then! |
05:20.58 | brlcad | the "ebm" extruded bitmap primitive is a distant cousin. it's definitely covered in the Principles of Effective Modeling at https://brlcad.org/wiki/Documentation |
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05:24.06 | TheJollyRoger | Whew. I'll have to study this, then! |
05:24.14 | TheJollyRoger | Ehehe. I'm kinda nervous. |
05:25.23 | TheJollyRoger | Not gonna lie, the tools and UI do look kinda intimidating. I generally use the commandline for most of my day-to-day tasks on the OS but trying to fly blind is a little... I dunno, it's gonna mean I'll have to really think the design through up front instead of just throwing down a sketch and then adjusting it to size later. |
05:26.27 | brlcad | Yes, it's conceptually quite a different method altogether. |
05:26.56 | TheJollyRoger | Yeah. |
05:27.22 | brlcad | Expert modelers tell me they're just as proficient if not more proficient as they are in other CAD, but the learning curve is definitely steep and the methods are different, often incompatible. |
05:28.13 | brlcad | We're working on usability and core features that affect it, but it's going to be a process and it takes time to implement every (seemingly little) feature. |
05:28.48 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: Testing from #**general** |
05:29.09 | gci_zulip | @**Sean**: Testing from #**Google Code-in** |
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05:30.53 | brlcad | Testing |
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05:34.11 | brlcad | all done testing, this looks like a usable bridge even if it is limited to individual streams. added one on the gci channel just in case since chatter on that will be kicking up real soon. |
05:34.18 | TheJollyRoger | Woohoo! |
09:11.32 | Freso | brlcad: Alright. I probably wonât touch the script again before January now though, so weâll see. :p |
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12:32.29 | brlcad | Freso: that's a really cool patch; didn't even occur to me to use it for the inverse |
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23:28.27 | Freso | brlcad: :) |
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04:00.45 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: @**starseeker**: https://docs.hunter.sh/en/latest/# |
04:01.28 | gci_zulip | @**Sean**: cmake package management |
04:01.52 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: cmake package management |
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04:03.28 | brlcad | hm, squirrely -- hopefully you still got a highlight |
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05:44.54 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: @**starseeker** also related to the earlier mention about shape construction from video, this is the other project that came to mind with some of the latest progress: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~reconstruction/colmap.html |
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12:39.56 | starseeker | brlcad: if you mean highlighted in the sense of bolding the line or some such, not really - just the prepended names |
12:40.02 | starseeker | still, nifty |
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13:24.43 | brlcad | starseeker: did you get an IRC "alert" because your nam was mentiond. in irssi, for example, it colors the sender's name orange instead of my terminal color (green) |
13:31.51 | cad_zulip | @**jaideep seth**: I was a Student Developer in the Google Summer of Code 2019 and would like to mentor projects in the Google Code in 2019. |
13:31.51 | cad_zulip | Please guide me on what is the process to apply. |
13:31.51 | cad_zulip | Thank you! |
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13:40.31 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: Hi @**jaideep seth**, welcome and thank you for your interest! What brings you to BRL-CAD? |
13:41.25 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: For what it's worth, to be an effective mentor, you'll need to be an active contributor. Youâre more than welcome to be a mentor, but youâll need to demonstrate you can be a capable contributor over the next couple weeks by submitting work, show you can be independently productive, show youâre familiar with the code, show you are or will be effective at giving advice to others, etc. |
13:42.31 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: If you have a reference to your GSoC work (who was your mentor), that would be good to know. |
13:48.41 | TheJollyRoger | Yay, the bridge seems to be working ^_^ |
13:48.54 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: :) |
13:49.01 | TheJollyRoger | Ahoy Cap'n! ^_^ |
13:49.24 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: greetings! happy friday! |
13:49.34 | TheJollyRoger | Yarr! |
13:52.43 | TheJollyRoger | I gotta fix up some stuff but I should be around more later today! |
13:54.09 | brlcad | sounds good |
13:55.58 | teepee_ | brlcad is there someone who would look at the DXF code? I can help, but I don't think I can manage the time to be actual mentor |
13:56.36 | teepee_ | I just saw it mentioned somewhere (on the mailing list I think?) |
13:56.53 | brlcad | teepee_: absolutely -- that's one I already have a task chain started for since it's more of a priority |
13:58.11 | brlcad | would xuwei be interested in mentoring it? |
13:58.41 | teepee_ | at some point he said he'd like to continue working on it but I have not heard back |
13:58.51 | teepee_ | I can try to catch him via mail |
13:58.59 | brlcad | if not mentor it, at least maybe help define a list of the things it needs next |
13:59.32 | brlcad | he would get a free t-shirt out of it ;) |
14:00.09 | teepee_ | an overview is in https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/3044 but I guess it's too high level to directly map to gci tasks |
14:03.15 | brlcad | it's better than nothing, but yeah. gci also isn't good for architecture or design (figuring things out), which is a lot of what's in the "What's left" section. |
14:04.52 | teepee_ | if there's someone with some basic c++ knowledge there could be tasks to move more c style code to c++ style |
14:04.53 | brlcad | what it would be great for is things like creating test data, unit tests, implementing a spline fitting function, creating a summary table of what entities are supported on import/export, etc :) |
14:05.41 | teepee_ | nothing done for export yet |
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14:40.02 | brlcad | so that's an easy table to fill out ;) |
15:05.07 | teepee_ | is the list of tasks already online somewhere? |
15:06.43 | brlcad | not yet, but this was the starter list from last time and several of them are keepers: https://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Code_In/2017/Tasks |
15:08.53 | cad_zulip | @**jaideep seth**: ```quote |
15:08.53 | cad_zulip | <PROTECTED> |
15:08.53 | cad_zulip | ``` |
15:08.53 | cad_zulip | Project 16.1 of INCF in GSoC 19 https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/projects/#5177840062955520 |
15:10.41 | brlcad | teepee_: how possible would it be to extract either .scad or .csg as a (non-gpl) library? |
15:12.09 | teepee_ | just the parser should be reasonable |
15:12.17 | brlcad | @**jaideep seth**: can you ask your mentor to send me an e-mail or send me their e-mail/irc so I can talk with them? |
15:12.58 | teepee_ | including also the processing step to generate actual geometry is probably a big pile of work |
15:13.22 | brlcad | no geometry generation, it can stay in expression/implicit form |
15:13.33 | brlcad | don't *want* triangles ;) |
15:13.55 | teepee_ | you'll get minkowski then :P |
15:14.07 | brlcad | it's harkening back to what we talked about a couple years ago |
15:14.20 | teepee_ | but yes, that would basically stop at the AST |
15:14.33 | brlcad | possibility of full round trip mapping between (or outright replacement) of .g to .csg |
15:14.54 | teepee_ | which I would like to split out better too, even for just internal use |
15:16.30 | brlcad | minkowski would become a new object type in brl-cad's taxonomy, either than or an editing command that evaluates (which is how hull is implemented) |
15:16.32 | teepee_ | right now the AST nodes know how to evaluate themselves but it would be much cleaner to use handle that via visitors |
15:16.40 | brlcad | s/than/that/ |
15:17.31 | brlcad | can you send me a source code link? I can take a look and see if it's at all something GCI students could start to tackle |
15:18.27 | brlcad | they can't do the architecture, but they could take care of a lot of other details and make serious progress |
15:18.31 | teepee_ | entry point is the bison parser : https://github.com/openscad/openscad/blob/master/src/parser.y |
15:18.42 | brlcad | oh no.. yaaaacc |
15:18.45 | brlcad | :) |
15:19.19 | brlcad | how do you manage than on windows? bison for windows? |
15:20.37 | teepee_ | MXE as build environment - that's running on Linux |
15:21.43 | teepee_ | there's a mostly working VS build though using vcpkg - that is getting some bison implementation from somewhere else |
15:22.02 | teepee_ | command line call is : https://github.com/openscad/openscad/blob/master/src/openscad.cc#L337 which puts the AST into 'root_module' |
15:22.27 | teepee_ | and evaluation should be then : https://github.com/openscad/openscad/blob/master/src/openscad.cc#L362 |
15:23.51 | brlcad | if it were extracted, what license do you think you'd use? able to do a permissive? |
15:29.44 | teepee_ | I suppose that would be possible, there was some discussion about that already - we'd need to check with kintel about the details though |
15:30.25 | teepee_ | I know he would not have a problem with making it MIT but I don't know who else has worked on that part and would have a say in that |
15:31.43 | kintel | I started working on extracting the file I/O and AST into a library a while ago |
15:31.55 | cad_zulip | @**jaideep seth**: ```quote |
15:31.55 | cad_zulip | **brlcad@irc.freenode.net**: @**jaideep seth**: can you ask your mentor to send me an e-mail or send me their e-mail/irc so I can talk with them? |
15:31.55 | cad_zulip | ``` |
15:31.55 | cad_zulip | My main mentor was Mark Watts, Ph.D student with University of Texas at Dallas. |
15:31.55 | cad_zulip | Contact Details: |
15:31.55 | cad_zulip | watts.mark2015@gmail.com |
15:31.56 | cad_zulip | mark@openworm.org |
15:31.57 | cad_zulip | There are many tasks ( 100s with many instances ) for each org in GCI 2019, I can help with making some ( while I try to get a commit in the BRL-CAD codbase) |
15:32.04 | kintel | And the intent was a BSD-style interop library |
15:32.30 | kintel | https://github.com/openscad/openscad/pull/1743 |
15:33.04 | kintel | There's a bit of architecture and refactoring work needed. Not quite student material right now |
15:33.08 | teepee_ | Ah, right, that's what I remembered :) |
15:33.40 | kintel | Once we can preserve use/include as AST nodes, that would greatly simplify the next steps |
15:33.43 | teepee_ | maybe some tasks for moving into the direction and re-architecture later? |
15:33.57 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: We converted all of our flex and bison in just a few days to a compatible system that is cross platform |
15:34.26 | kintel | The coupling is still a bit high to just separate I think, but it's easier to discover if taking a stab at it :) |
15:35.22 | teepee_ | on my list would be some cleanup anyway - like getting all the code out of the parser.y |
15:35.23 | kintel | But yeah, reorganizing files and build systems could prob. be done separately |
15:35.44 | kintel | Perhaps motivation get the coding style update merged first :) |
15:36.12 | teepee_ | right, I guess that's probably a very good point now anyway |
15:36.29 | teepee_ | getting out a patch release is pretty much prepared in the branch already |
15:36.48 | teepee_ | I think there's only 2 small patches I need to cherry pick |
15:37.14 | teepee_ | so otherwise we are up for next release but not very soon realistically :D |
15:37.38 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: Yeah I think thereâs probably a few things GCI could do here |
15:38.14 | teepee_ | I agree with kintel we should not try to go for full separation just yet |
15:38.48 | teepee_ | but preparing the move into that direction should still be able to produce a number of smaller topics that could fit gci |
15:39.02 | teepee_ | those are supposed to be like 2-4h or something like that? |
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17:29.18 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: More like 1-2 hours for a core dev, someone fully experienced and set up. Target is for it to be something an average student could do in less than a day even if not set up, ideally in the 1-4 hr timeframe depending on their experience. |
17:31.01 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: So if theyâre really good, itâs still at least an hour of work, and if theyâre not, it can still figure it out without getting frustrated or being impossible |
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23:58.58 | brlcad | howdy! |
00:01.52 | yukonbob | hey brlcad ;) |
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14:28.09 | mfarberbrodsky | Hello there! I'm a 16 year old student, interested in joining Google Code-In this year (first time), perhaps with BRLCAD. |
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16:44.44 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: hello mfarberbrodsky! |
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21:42.02 | dev__ | Hello! I am new here can anyone tell me to how to start with? |
21:42.02 | dev__ | Thank you |
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04:27.31 | cad_zulip | @**Adithya Anilkumar**: Hi guys, |
04:27.32 | cad_zulip | <PROTECTED> |
07:44.03 | TheJollyRoger | Ahoy Adithya Anilkumar! ^_^ |
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15:01.42 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: Welcome @**Adithya Anilkumar** ! |
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16:05.12 | cad_zulip | @**Adithya Anilkumar**: Is there anything i could help with? |
16:05.27 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: in what regard? of course, always ;) |
16:06.10 | cad_zulip | @**Adithya Anilkumar**: In regards tp beginer Friendly issues |
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20:33.41 | brlcad | @**Adithya Anilkumar**: yes, there are many listed in the TODO file. for example, you could add support for multiple files to the dbconcat command |
20:33.48 | brlcad | that's just a simple loop |
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21:25.19 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Oh ok, that makes things easier. Thank you! |
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01:19.45 | starseeker | brlcad: getting a unit test failure for the redblack implementation on latest ubuntu |
01:27.59 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: starseeker, any details? that seems random.. |
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01:35.11 | starseeker | brlcad: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rP64PJbmJn/ |
01:35.35 | starseeker | actually, the line numbers won't match - let me revert and rerun |
01:36.34 | starseeker | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fTK88qMPzb/ |
01:37.05 | starseeker | is seriously tempted to just deprecate that whole API |
01:37.15 | starseeker | we make almost no use of it |
01:38.29 | brlcad | try updating it to r70981 ... pre-bu_list elimination, possibly gone awry |
01:44.12 | starseeker | 71372 has it - that's right before the bu_list removal commit... |
01:44.32 | brlcad | has it as in still crashes? |
01:44.37 | starseeker | yep |
01:44.41 | brlcad | rather, still reports memory issue |
01:44.53 | starseeker | it'll crash outside of valgrind |
01:49.41 | starseeker | ditto 70981 |
01:50.07 | brlcad | debugging |
01:51.13 | starseeker | wonders if he messed it up pre-68656... |
01:52.25 | brlcad | at a glance, I think the problem is just sillyness in bu_rb_delete() |
01:52.47 | brlcad | deletes notes, then deletes the container that was holding the nodes, but it didn't take the pointers to them out of the container |
01:53.20 | brlcad | looking to confirm it directly |
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01:54.32 | brlcad | quick test-- can you comment out line 595 in libbu/redblack.c and see if it still barks. not the proper fix, but would help confirm the locality.. |
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01:57.09 | starseeker | still segfaults with that commented out |
01:58.10 | starseeker | brlcad: we've had a lot of problems with this code over the years - would it be worth it to consider replacing the guts with something like https://github.com/openbsd/src/tree/master/usr.sbin/nsd ? |
01:58.35 | starseeker | https://github.com/openbsd/src/blob/master/usr.sbin/nsd/rbtree.c rather |
02:04.13 | starseeker | couple others floating around... netbsd has one, looks like... |
02:11.02 | starseeker | as near as I can tell, we have two uses of libbu's redblack in our code - glint and pixcount |
02:33.17 | brlcad | I would rather eliminate it outright for an STL container (std::map and std::set use redblack under the hood, iirc) |
02:33.29 | brlcad | pixcount needs nothing of the sort |
02:33.42 | brlcad | glint could be adapted |
02:34.52 | starseeker | nods |
02:35.13 | starseeker | As an experiment I switched those two to C++ files - no trouble |
02:36.08 | starseeker | Do we need to eliminate those uses before we list it as deprecated? |
02:37.03 | brlcad | no |
02:38.02 | starseeker | heads for the CHANGES file |
02:38.04 | brlcad | it's poor form in general, but not a rule or anything. deprecation is an independent announcement to everone else, so it just looks fishy when we'r still using it |
02:38.47 | starseeker | I think it's worth doing in this case - I want to get it into CHANGES for the release, but I don't have time to disassemble glint right now... |
02:39.09 | starseeker | if I do that I'll start looking at consolidating it with the MGED lint command |
02:39.11 | brlcad | pixcount is just using it as an RGB color hash, that directly translates to a std::map<> |
02:39.17 | starseeker | nods |
02:41.15 | brlcad | heck, probably a simple std::map<int32_t> with RGBA as the key would work perfectly |
02:45.02 | starseeker | notes we no longer have commits posted to IRC... |
04:01.57 | brlcad | created a GCI task to re-implement it. it's perfectly scoped for gci. |
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11:43.12 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: hello guys |
11:43.12 | cad_zulip | :) |
11:49.21 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: ping @**Jeffrey Liu** |
11:49.51 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Hello! |
11:49.55 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: do you know where to find a sample geometry file ? |
11:50.03 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: hello :) |
11:55.25 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: btw where are you from ? |
11:56.30 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Hm, sorry I didn't do that task so I'm not quite sure; have you looked at the db directory from the source files though? |
11:56.48 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: I'm from the United States, how about you? |
11:57.46 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: I am from India |
11:57.59 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: okay I will continue searching on |
11:58.18 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: btw do you have any idea of it's extension ? |
12:00.19 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: looks like MGED extension |
12:02.13 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: hello @**Panda (Gauravjeet Singh)** where I can find a sample geometry file ? |
12:02.40 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: I am currently working on Compile and Install BRL-CAD from source code |
12:03.00 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: but I can't find a geometry file |
12:03.23 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Did you already install BRL-CAD? |
12:03.35 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: yes |
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12:05.06 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: The db directory has some asc (ASCII databases) that I was able to import |
12:05.13 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Then, look at the share/db directory in your installation. There, you should find a lot of *.g files. |
12:07.50 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: yeah got it |
12:11.59 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: btw I got raytrace aborted while using rt @**Sahibpreet Kaur** |
12:12.00 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: what does that mean ? |
12:17.04 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: [Screenshot.png](/user_uploads/1549/mi0djFfGlz06Mma4ScCvo6cl/Screenshot.png) |
12:17.06 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Screenshot? |
12:17.06 | cad_zulip | This can happen, if you close the ray-trace window by clicking on the "x" (i.e. the usual way). Try to close it with a right mouse click inside the window. |
12:18.14 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: what if I closed with Ctrl+C in terminal ? @**Daniel Rossberg** |
12:18.48 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Ah, okay. type ```tops``` in mged and then ```draw``` with one of the displayed objects, which looks best. |
12:19.39 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: ```quote |
12:19.39 | cad_zulip | what if I closed with Ctrl+C in terminal ? @**Daniel Rossberg** |
12:19.39 | cad_zulip | ``` |
12:19.39 | cad_zulip | Try it :wink: |
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12:20.42 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: ```quote |
12:20.42 | cad_zulip | ```quote |
12:20.42 | cad_zulip | what if I closed with Ctrl+C in terminal ? @**Daniel Rossberg** |
12:20.42 | cad_zulip | ``` |
12:20.42 | cad_zulip | Try it :wink: |
12:20.42 | cad_zulip | ``` |
12:20.42 | cad_zulip | It closes two windows simultaneously |
12:20.59 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: i also tried with other .g and same ray trace abort happen |
12:21.48 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Did you select a group for drawing? |
12:22.02 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: nah |
12:22.11 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: just one .g file |
12:22.38 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: when I run bin/mged, it gives me two windows |
12:23.04 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Okay, I see. For this task (compile and install), wee need to see this error message. This is intended there! |
12:23.15 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: [Screenshot-2.png](/user_uploads/1549/S2TuGgc4kfJBGLl8NZ6eV2aP/Screenshot-2.png) |
12:24.27 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Your first screen shot is what's needed to complete the task. |
12:25.20 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: However, if you want to see something, you have to select an object for displaying first. (with the procedure I described here) |
12:25.38 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: btw @**Daniel Rossberg** I tried with bin/archer and same ray trace abort |
12:25.54 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: ```quote |
12:25.54 | cad_zulip | However, if you want to see something, you have to select an object for displaying first. (with the procedure I described here) |
12:25.54 | cad_zulip | ``` |
12:25.54 | cad_zulip | yeah okay |
12:26.24 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: As I said: Thats okay if no object for displaying was selected. |
12:28.14 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: `himanshu@asus:~/brlcad-code/brlcad-build |
12:28.14 | cad_zulip | $ bin/archer |
12:28.14 | cad_zulip | Raytrace aborted. |
12:28.14 | cad_zulip | ` |
12:31.43 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: @**Daniel Rossberg** so should I submit the task ? |
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12:36.04 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Yes, the error message is the thing we want to see. Type your name in the mged command prompt, make a screen shot and submit it. |
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12:38.41 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: done |
12:38.45 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: :/ |
12:40.12 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: hey @**Erik** :) |
12:57.01 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: I am on the task: Learn basic 3D modeling using BRL-CAD, part #1 of 2 |
12:57.39 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: I am not able to understand what all lessons to do |
12:59.28 | cad_zulip | @**Sahibpreet Kaur**: Have you installed BRL-CAD on your system? |
12:59.49 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: Yes , I have installed |
13:00.28 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: Actually there are a lot of topics and under the introduction the mged, There are 16 lessons |
13:00.28 | cad_zulip | @**Sahibpreet Kaur**: Here is the link to the MGED tutorial: http://brlcad.org/VolumeII-Introduction_to_MGED.pdf |
13:01.22 | cad_zulip | @**Sahibpreet Kaur**: Yes, but the task states to complete lesson 1 to 8. What didn't you understand? |
13:02.00 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: Lesson 1 to 8 in http://brlcad.org/VolumeII-Introduction_to_MGED.pdf |
13:02.50 | cad_zulip | @**Sahibpreet Kaur**: Yes |
13:03.12 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: And what is ae 45 45 |
13:07.26 | cad_zulip | @**Sahibpreet Kaur**: It is the view you can from VIEW option in the menu bar. |
13:07.26 | cad_zulip | ae 45 45 is **a**zimuth and **e**levation value for the current view. |
13:08.00 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: Thank you |
13:08.24 | cad_zulip | @**Sahibpreet Kaur**: under the VIEW option you can see a number of views you can display your design in. Also, it has been explained in the tutorial. |
13:10.30 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: Yes, I just tried to save a PNG image by running "rt -o lesson01.png" in the command window , but it didn't work |
13:10.57 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: It was given in the task description |
13:14.35 | cad_zulip | @**Savar Bhasin**: Can anyone tell me how to change the color of the text in LibreCAD |
13:15.13 | cad_zulip | @**Sahibpreet Kaur**: @**Mayank Goyal** Yeah, it comes after you have drawn a design that comes after following the tutorial. So, basically you have to draw the designs given in each lesson and then use the command given in the task to save the image. |
13:15.32 | cad_zulip | @**Sahibpreet Kaur**: Make sure to name the images based on the lessons you did. |
13:16.58 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: OK , thank you so much |
13:22.30 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: Also noted in the task description, you can alternatively just run "rt" and make sure all the windows are in your screenshot |
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14:44.02 | cad_zulip | @**Minh Duc Le**: Hello everyone! |
14:44.02 | cad_zulip | I have installed brlcad, but there is no bin folder in the build folder. Can anyone help me? |
14:48.52 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Could you send a screenshot of the files that you see? |
14:50.25 | cad_zulip | @**Minh Duc Le**: [pasted image](/user_uploads/1549/x2pSJq1ko9Gu_lRv8mF7QoYZ/pasted_image.png) |
14:53.22 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Have you compiled the project already? |
14:54.16 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: If you have, the bin directory should be located in either Debug or Release |
15:03.39 | cad_zulip | @**Minh Duc Le**: I have just opened those folders, but there is no file named mged or archer. How can I run them? |
15:03.39 | cad_zulip | [pasted image](/user_uploads/1549/cdfOlvbYgqOqCxG_wndJiHIs/pasted_image.png) |
15:05.08 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Have you compiled the VS Solution yet? |
15:06.50 | cad_zulip | @**Minh Duc Le**: How can I do that? |
15:08.57 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: So if you go back to the brlcad-build directory, you'll see a file called BRLCAD.sln. Open that and compile it (this should take a while), and I believe that depending on what you set (Debug or Release), one of the folders should have the correct files. |
15:11.15 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Let me know if it works. |
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15:40.46 | cad_zulip | @**Minh Duc Le**: @**Jeffrey Liu** , It has just finished compiling. Here is what the bin folder looks like now. |
15:40.46 | cad_zulip | [pasted image](/user_uploads/1549/NfrP02N44KTtC5mkf3jsgqoq/pasted_image.png) |
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15:46.37 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Hm... I don't think there should be so many dll files (I think most of them should just be exe files), but I'm not really sure what happened. How did you compile it? |
15:47.35 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Sorry I didn't mean that those dll files shouldn't be there, I meant that I believe there should be more exe files than dll files there. |
15:50.07 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: Just need some clarification on this task https://codein.withgoogle.com/tasks/5649945713967104/?sp-organization=4884012200361984&sp-categories=1&sp-search=c~2Fc%2B%2B |
15:51.36 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: Is this pointing to `struct bu_rb_tree *palette;/* Pixel palette */` |
15:52.07 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: Tasks says not to use bu_rb interference |
16:05.34 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: any clarification ? |
16:15.24 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: as per my thinking, this task wants to replace red-black tree algorithm into std::map as std::map has all the functionalities like insert(), erase(), clear() etc |
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16:37.54 | Stragus | There are many storage structures that can insert/delete items, the choice of red-black trees or whatever depends on the operations you have to do |
16:38.39 | Stragus | A red-black tree has very different properties from a hash table like std::map, but I don't know the requirements for that particular case |
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17:35.54 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: This is something like hash table or something |
18:11.15 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: ```quote |
18:11.15 | cad_zulip | as per my thinking, this task wants to replace red-black tree algorithm into std::map as std::map has all the functionalities like insert(), erase(), clear() etc |
18:11.15 | cad_zulip | ``` |
18:11.15 | cad_zulip | You are saying it here: Replace bu_rb_tree by std::map - with an int32_t as key. |
18:11.15 | cad_zulip | What's the value type? |
18:16.41 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: @**Minh Duc Le** Did the compilation finished without errors? |
18:27.39 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: @**Daniel Rossberg** I will look into that as no. 3. For now I had chosen another debugging task |
18:29.45 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Did you already compiled the experimental features? |
18:30.14 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: currently working on Test and fix single precision compilation |
18:30.41 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: changing double to float and checking if any errors or warnings |
18:31.07 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: ```quote |
18:31.07 | cad_zulip | Did you already compiled the experimental features? |
18:31.07 | cad_zulip | ``` |
18:31.07 | cad_zulip | nah |
18:34.51 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: btw I never used visual studio |
18:34.59 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: using vim |
18:35.17 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: is visual studio better? |
18:35.26 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: okay I will have a look into it |
18:35.36 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: There are easy programming tasks in the "experimental features", where you can learn how to change code, recompile it, and generate a patch file. |
18:36.18 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: ```quote |
18:36.18 | cad_zulip | There are easy programming tasks in the "experimental features", where you can learn how to change code, recompile it, and generate a patch file. |
18:36.18 | cad_zulip | ``` |
18:36.18 | cad_zulip | okay I will go though it |
18:37.00 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: ```quote |
18:37.00 | cad_zulip | is visual studio better? |
18:37.00 | cad_zulip | ``` |
18:37.00 | cad_zulip | It depends on which OS you work. |
18:37.29 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: ```quote |
18:37.29 | cad_zulip | ```quote |
18:37.29 | cad_zulip | There are easy programming tasks in the "experimental features", where you can learn how to change code, recompile it, and generate a patch file. |
18:37.29 | cad_zulip | ``` |
18:37.29 | cad_zulip | okay I will go though it |
18:37.30 | cad_zulip | ``` |
18:37.30 | cad_zulip | There is an own task for compiling the experimental features. |
18:37.52 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: thanks for info @**Daniel Rossberg** :) |
18:39.20 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: And then, you can do the "Remove throw statements" tasks. |
18:40.18 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: looks like it goes through this |
18:40.19 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: Compile BRL-CAD's experimental features |
18:41.10 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: and then onward remove throw statements |
18:42.28 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: btw what's the difference between default build and release build mentioned in http://brlcad.org/wiki/Building_from_SVN#Configure_the_build_system_with_CMake ? |
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18:50.48 | cad_zulip | @**Erik**: ```quote |
18:50.48 | cad_zulip | hey @**Erik** :) |
18:50.48 | cad_zulip | ``` |
18:50.48 | cad_zulip | Hi, is there something I can help with? |
18:51.59 | cad_zulip | @**Erik**: default build has some optimizations turned off and some debugging turned on, release is "for performance", do a default build |
18:52.25 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: CMake usually detects already existing libraries on you system and uses them instead of their versions provided with the BRL-CAD source code (usually in the src/other directory). DBRLCAD_BUNDLED_LIBS=ON demands to use always the version which comes with the BRL-CAD source code. |
18:52.25 | cad_zulip | There are usually two main build types: Debug and Release. Debug contains additional code/data to match it with the source code. I.e., it can be said which code part belongs to which source code line and what the variables' values are. |
18:52.25 | cad_zulip | The release build is a usually speed optimized build with no debug information and variables often often don't have a memory address, because they live in processor registers only (if possible). |
18:53.30 | cad_zulip | @**Erik**: (Easy bugs in debug builds can very easily become difficult bugs in release mode due to compiler optimization methods, all ya'll should be avoiding release unless you know what you're doing) |
19:07.42 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: thanks for info @**Erik** @**Daniel Rossberg** |
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02:44.00 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Hey, I just SVN Updated to the latest revision (r74417) and tried to remake/recompile the source, but for some reason there's a couple issues now; it says that 124 projects failed and my bin directory ends up missing a lot of executables. Has anyone else encountered this? |
02:48.15 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Reading through the build log, one of the first errors that occurs is error C2039: 'map': is not a member of 'std' in debug2c.cxx |
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02:54.36 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: ```quote |
02:54.36 | cad_zulip | The release build is a usually speed optimized build with no debug information and variables often often don't have a memory address, because they live in processor registers only (if possible). |
02:54.36 | cad_zulip | ``` |
02:54.36 | cad_zulip | We actually break convention there as RELEASE build retains debug symbols, but it is also highly optimized (so -O3 plus other flags). In testing, keeping debug symbols has typically been found to have a negligible impact on performance, but having the symbols for debugging has been invaluable. |
02:56.54 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: ```quote |
02:56.54 | cad_zulip | any clarification ? |
02:56.54 | cad_zulip | ``` |
02:56.54 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak** not sure what you're asking beyond what's written in the task. The goal is simply to not use the bu_rb calls like that bu_rb_tree struct. You can otherwise implement the tool however you want and use whatever you want so long as it outputs correctly. |
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04:06.18 | ezzieygu1wuf | I literally just copied the svn trunk and compiled today |
04:06.35 | ezzieygu1wuf | only issue was tcl/tk mismatch, switched from 'system' to 'bundled' and it compiled fine |
04:13.19 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: excellent |
04:14.53 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: ```quote |
04:14.53 | cad_zulip | Reading through the build log, one of the first errors that occurs is error C2039: 'map': is not a member of 'std' in debug2c.cxx |
04:14.53 | cad_zulip | ``` |
04:14.53 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu** yeah, that was recent change. I have a fix I'm about to commit. Basically, there's a #include <map> missing from a couple files that didn't exhibit as an error for the dev that did some commits recently. |
04:16.21 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: I manually included the statements in the two files where it was missing and I'm currently compiling, which seems to be working at the moment. |
04:17.40 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: But thanks for letting me know that it wasn't just something wrong with just my setup, I was really confused. |
04:18.52 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: You code long enough with others and cross-platform issues like that start to become very obvious. ;) |
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02:49.03 | yukonbob | hello #brlcad |
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06:45.17 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: hey @**Jeffrey Liu** :) |
06:47.47 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: how's going @**Jeffrey Liu** ? |
06:48.18 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: I'm good, how about you? |
06:48.55 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: yeah me too I saw you are gonna work on count pix |
06:49.00 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: sounds great |
06:49.04 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: :) |
06:49.34 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Yep, I think I'm close to finishing it. What are you working on? |
06:50.11 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: I am working on `Compile BRL-CAD's experimental features` |
06:50.26 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: a source dir `rt^3` |
06:50.38 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: I see, how's it going for you? |
06:51.07 | cad_zulip | @**Chiranjiv Singh Malhi**: Hi |
06:51.23 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: Hey |
06:52.02 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: @**Jeffrey Liu** got the build environment but I can't find ` coreinterface, printTitle, embeddedlua, and hellobrlcad targets` |
06:53.18 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: I think after compilation they should be present in `bin` dir but I can't find them. |
06:56.08 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Hm, unfortunately I probably can't offer much assistance because I haven't done that task yet, but were there any compilation errors? |
06:56.42 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: many compilation errors but I resolved them and got the build environment ready |
06:56.56 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: but can't find those files yet |
06:58.39 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Looking at the task, I believe the targets are referring to the build targets and not executables. |
07:01.21 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: btw `bin` dir contains all the executables right ? @**Jeffrey Liu** |
07:02.39 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Afaik, it should. |
07:39.44 | cad_zulip | @**Chiranjiv Singh Malhi**: Hi. I wanted to know about converting model from one extension to another. |
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12:02.43 | cad_zulip | @**Erik**: @**Chiranjiv Singh Malhi** BRL-CAD only converts to-from it's native .g format, there are many binaries for conversion, g-stl exports an STL file, stl-g imports stl, ... many other formats with similar names (g-obj, g-step, ...) |
12:07.21 | cad_zulip | @**Chiranjiv Singh Malhi**: @**Erik** alright got it , thanks . |
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02:51.54 | starseeker | winces... in retrospect I probably shouldn't have rototilled the source tree during the middle of GCI like that... |
02:54.45 | starseeker | brlcad: a quick experiment makes me think the C++ build will be less trivial than I'd hoped - should I just generate a list of the char * const assignments? Those are probably the lowest hanging fruit |
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10:16.51 | epileg | hello everyone. Is there a date for a major release? |
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15:02.49 | starseeker | epileg: define "major" release |
15:04.25 | starseeker | epileg: we just tagged a patch release, and a minor release (incrementing the middle version number) will come when some combination of features and improvements warrants it |
15:04.54 | starseeker | a "major" release (updating from 7.x to 8.x) isn't in the works anytime soon |
15:13.58 | epileg | sorry, minor release |
15:14.56 | starseeker | Probably safe to predict one within the next six months - there are a couple features in the works that would warrant it - but can't pin down more closely than that right now |
15:25.15 | epileg | ok, thank starseeker. I just asked this because there is a minor release every year, that's all |
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21:52.11 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: ```quote |
21:52.11 | cad_zulip | Thank you for the response @**Sean** ! I went with a 1001x1001 grid. Sorry to bother you again, but I had one more question for the task (hopefully the last one): seeing that I am only printing a black for miss and a white for hit, could I simply just have the hit/miss callbacks return a certain value without doing anything else? |
21:52.11 | cad_zulip | ``` |
21:52.11 | cad_zulip | Questions are never a bother. :) Absolutely you can do whatever you want in a callback. Depending on what you need to do, you may need some book-keeping method to keep track of results, but the callback return value itself will be in the a_return field of the application struct. |
21:58.24 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: ```quote |
21:58.24 | cad_zulip | I tried this code (g-wave [options] input.g object(s)) but it didn't work. |
21:58.24 | cad_zulip | ``` |
21:58.24 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal** Where did you learn about g-wave? That converter was renamed in 2005..... You may have installed an ancient version. (and yes, you run the converters *outside* of mged). |
22:26.08 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Thank you for your response :) I just figured that the printing was causing a huge bottleneck problem because the program was taking much longer with them included. In this case, it seems like the default int return type worked fine - I just needed to adjust the return values to indicate a hit or a miss. |
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11:13.57 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: ```quote |
11:13.57 | cad_zulip | ```quote |
11:13.57 | cad_zulip | I tried this code (g-wave [options] input.g object(s)) but it didn't work. |
11:13.57 | cad_zulip | ``` |
11:13.57 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal** Where did you learn about g-wave? That converter was renamed in 2005..... You may have installed an ancient version. (and yes, you run the converters *outside* of mged). |
11:13.57 | cad_zulip | ``` |
11:13.57 | cad_zulip | So, basically what should I do now? |
11:47.54 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: My ubuntu just crashed on me |
12:05.42 | cad_zulip | @**SHEU AYOMIDE ABDULAZEEZ**: Any mentor available to review "github pull request task" i submitted |
12:06.48 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: ```quote |
12:06.48 | cad_zulip | Any mentor available to review "github pull request task" i submitted |
12:06.48 | cad_zulip | ``` |
12:06.48 | cad_zulip | looks like mentors are in other timeline. Btw you are welcome to the organization :) |
12:07.49 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: Welcom |
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16:38.16 | cad_zulip | @**SHEU AYOMIDE ABDULAZEEZ**: Thanks |
17:08.20 | cad_zulip | @**Chiranjiv Singh Malhi**: @**Sumagna Das** can we continue where we left off yesterday? |
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15:20.54 | starseeker | O.o https://github.com/Microsoft/Terminal |
15:21.44 | starseeker | wonders just how much can be run in that... |
18:34.29 | cad_zulip | @**jesse junior**: hello everyone, |
18:34.29 | cad_zulip | Should i use the sites css or can i personalize the UI? |
18:35.01 | cad_zulip | @**jesse junior**: https://codein.withgoogle.com/tasks/5731508619313152/?sp-organization=4884012200361984&sp-search=html |
18:35.01 | cad_zulip | over here... |
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21:17.48 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: @**jesse junior** you can customize but yours should work with the existing if and when it can. |
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06:42.29 | cad_zulip | @**Hrishikesh Sharjith**: Hello, I'm participating in Google Code-In. I'm very excited to see the variety of tasks offered by Fedora Project, BRL-CAD and Appleseed! |
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11:47.49 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: i am going to print the application development.pdf of brlcad for my ease of the (appleseed task series). |
11:48.50 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: what task are you working on now? |
12:08.21 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: anyone knows how to build rtexample.c in src/rt |
12:08.29 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: i want to see what it does |
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12:31.55 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: ``` |
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12:51.36 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: hey @**Ngadou Yopa** can you tell me how to build and compile rtexample.c |
12:55.19 | cad_zulip | @**Ngadou Yopa**: ```quote |
12:55.19 | cad_zulip | hey @**Ngadou Yopa** can you tell me how to build and compile rtexample.c |
12:55.19 | cad_zulip | ``` |
12:55.19 | cad_zulip | Hey @**Sumagna Das** give me a sec |
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13:04.33 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: nope |
13:04.42 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: sorry for the delay |
13:07.34 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Sumagna did you do the Appleseed#1 task? |
13:07.55 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: yea |
13:08.05 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: i am going for the second task |
13:08.34 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: i have submitted it for review |
13:08.49 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Can you explain me how to do it? |
13:09.07 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: if you have a problem, just tell it |
13:09.31 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: you cant ask someone to just kind of tell you how to do the whole thing |
13:09.51 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: How do you convert the geometry file to a obj file |
13:09.54 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: anyways, how to do it is written in the task page |
13:12.27 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: go to terminal or command prompt(in case of windows), type ```g-obj -o (the name you want to give).obj (your .g filename).g sph(if you ran make sph sph) |
13:13.32 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: "terminal" means? |
13:13.42 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: you have windows? |
13:13.51 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: YES |
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13:14.07 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: then open command prompt |
13:14.29 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: In Sri Lanka about 90% of people use windows. |
13:14.39 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: ok |
13:17.43 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: [4.png](/user_uploads/1549/GhU5AH2ivpqmZhHdDOJVVdZm/4.png) |
13:18.15 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Is there is something wrong with this, Sumagna? |
13:21.08 | cad_zulip | @**Chiranjiv Singh Malhi**: Change the directory to where the g-obj.exe is their and write the full name of the file |
13:21.40 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: right |
13:21.46 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: sorry for the delay |
13:21.56 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: i am setting up ssh |
13:22.10 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: IT means show the path for g-obj file |
13:28.23 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Chiranjiv can you kindly tell me how to change the directory? |
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13:41.23 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: search for environment variables |
13:41.48 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: @**Thusal Ranawaka** |
13:41.49 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: [Sumagna-Das.url](/user_uploads/1549/qMbeOCngpuqInwj62pRVe0Xs/Sumagna-Das.url) Okay. I somehow manage to convert the geometry file to a .obj file and the other problem is after converting the file you have to open Appleseed studio. |
13:42.21 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: ok |
13:42.40 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: you have appleseed installed? |
13:42.41 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Then select 'New Project' option am i correct? |
13:42.47 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: yes |
13:44.06 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Then you have to import object on the object option or in another option? |
13:44.12 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: yes |
13:45.00 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: you have a computer with great amount of ram? |
13:45.32 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: When you import the object in your PC is the object showed up on the window. |
13:45.45 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: 4GB RAM |
13:47.13 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: When I import the object it is not showing up. |
13:50.34 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Hello |
13:52.14 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: pink screen> |
13:53.04 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: NO In the middle |
13:53.17 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: is it PINK? |
13:53.35 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: no |
13:53.42 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Black |
13:54.22 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: press ```F5``` |
13:56.07 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Then |
13:56.25 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: it should now be pink, right? |
13:56.44 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Wait a minute |
14:02.41 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: F5 means 'Start interactive rendering' |
14:02.54 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: yes |
14:03.43 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: But when i click it doesn t turn into pink |
14:04.27 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: does it turn pink? yes or no |
14:04.54 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: no |
14:05.15 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: even when you press ```F5``` |
14:06.43 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: no i didn t press F5 i just click on the start interactive rendering |
14:06.52 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: ok |
14:07.08 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: can you send me a screenshot? |
14:08.56 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: [5.png](/user_uploads/1549/Uzk73jFH432okuCHfWNdixzU/5.png) |
14:09.14 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: i have sent the screenshot |
14:10.02 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: can you scroll down the tree and send me the screenshot after opening the "Object instances" group |
14:11.23 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: nothing happen when i open it |
14:11.40 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: just send me |
14:12.10 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: hey himanshu, whats up? |
14:12.12 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: [6.png](/user_uploads/1549/hYVj29JDxezS3_vkt_HOLZsy/6.png) |
14:12.45 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: you havent imported the obj file |
14:12.56 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: import it first |
14:13.04 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: ```quote |
14:13.04 | cad_zulip | hey himanshu, whats up? |
14:13.04 | cad_zulip | ``` |
14:13.04 | cad_zulip | yeah I am fine. Just busy in some assignments. btw how's going ? |
14:13.17 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: i imported it but nothing happens |
14:13.31 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: where did u import from? |
14:14.20 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: from the BRL CAD file |
14:14.31 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: what? |
14:14.42 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: you have to import from the obj file |
14:15.07 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: YEs as a obj file but it doesnt work |
14:15.59 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: but i convert geometry file to a .obj format from the internet |
14:16.25 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: right click on the ```objects``` groups and click on ```import objects...``` option |
14:16.29 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: the command prompt thing is not working |
14:16.47 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: i do it but nothing happens |
14:16.53 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: go to the command prompt |
14:17.13 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: you know where brlcad is installed? |
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14:17.54 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: change to that directory in command prompt |
14:20.41 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: Hey @**Daniel Rossberg** If I have to bind function in lua so is it also compulsory to implement function of nested class too ? |
14:21.04 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: thusal, you did what isaid> |
14:22.20 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: wait |
14:22.45 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: do you know how to change directories |
14:23.58 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: no |
14:24.59 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: [7.png](/user_uploads/1549/HfdBcfLJD4wUibvfTVjLwINn/7.png) |
14:25.17 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: What is wrong with this? |
14:26.05 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: cd "path to your brlcad installation" |
14:26.16 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: run cd the way i told |
14:26.53 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: and send the screenshot |
14:28.39 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: [8.png](/user_uploads/1549/EYBnA4QHlDbe1Vf8mdDWl696/8.png) |
14:28.55 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Okay I did it |
14:29.07 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: now run the command |
14:30.55 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: [9.png](/user_uploads/1549/zVEKeondvKRMWwJOzVsCIjWW/9.png) |
14:31.10 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: It doesn t working |
14:31.41 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: ```cd bin``` |
14:31.41 | cad_zulip | then, ```g-obj.exe``` |
14:33.26 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Succeeded. |
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14:33.55 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: now import it using ```Import Objects ....``` |
14:34.12 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: I thanking you from my heart to your waste of time. |
14:34.27 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: no problem |
14:35.32 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: i am doing my work side by side( setting up Github in Atom edito) |
14:35.52 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak** , do you use atom? |
14:36.13 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: okay now it s pink |
14:36.19 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Then |
14:36.45 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: ```quote |
14:36.45 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak** , do you use atom? |
14:36.45 | cad_zulip | ``` |
14:36.45 | cad_zulip | yeah but I use vim more than atom |
14:37.18 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: press ```Ctrl`` and, at the same time, press right click and drag downwards inside the render are |
14:37.59 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: ```quote |
14:37.59 | cad_zulip | ```quote |
14:37.59 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak** , do you use atom? |
14:37.59 | cad_zulip | ``` |
14:37.59 | cad_zulip | yeah but I use vim more than atom |
14:38.00 | cad_zulip | ``` |
14:38.00 | cad_zulip | i cant use vim efficiently so i use atom |
14:38.59 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: in BRLCAD rendering means ray trace? |
14:39.15 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: yea |
14:39.22 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: i think so |
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14:42.27 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: when pressing ctrl and dragging downwards what happens |
14:42.43 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: it zooms out |
14:42.50 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: but it will take some tim |
14:43.21 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: do it for some time and you will see the sphere n pink color |
14:43.38 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: you need to assign it a material but do it afterwards |
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14:51.24 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: In assign material option what should i type on the filter |
14:51.40 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: you have to make a material |
14:51.52 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: first create a color |
14:52.02 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: in assembly group |
14:52.26 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: and type material1 on the filter |
14:52.42 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: you have a material created? |
14:54.58 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: i have select create generic material option |
14:55.45 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: there change the value of color which is ``0 0 0`` |
14:56.16 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: change it to `0 1 2` or something but dont change the first zero |
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15:09.33 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: hey thusal, done> |
15:10.44 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: yes |
15:10.54 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: 50% |
15:12.12 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: when i assign a material and render the pink goes to black colour |
15:12.28 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: you have to add a light now |
15:12.37 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: which should be directional light |
15:13.31 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: then |
15:25.59 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: press ``F5`` again |
15:26.51 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: okay i got a white sphere now i sending it for review |
15:27.04 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: ok |
15:27.08 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: thanks for your help again |
15:27.25 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: i have sent it for review but still not reviewed |
15:33.36 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Sumagna can you send a screenshot or the URL of your dashboard |
15:39.39 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Bye guys |
16:24.21 | cad_zulip | @**scorp08**: @**Sean** Is it a bad idea to leave semaphores in shootrays_parallel and directly feed rt_shootray to bu_parallel ? |
17:42.49 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: @**Sean** how to build and compile rtexample.c? |
17:43.43 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: in the same way, i will also build and compile the c++ program for appleseed #2 |
18:39.58 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: You need to set-up your build environment such that it finds BRL-CAD's header files and libraries. You can do this by cloning a project which is doing this, for example from the brlcad or rt^3 repository. |
18:39.58 | cad_zulip | Or, you do it by yourself and set the paths and libraries in your CMakeLists.txt, for exmple. |
18:54.52 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: ok but i csnt do it still |
18:56.29 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Then, what are you doing? |
18:59.01 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Remember, I can't see, hear, smell, etc., what you are doing. All I have is this chat. I've no idea what you've tried, typed, etc.. |
19:00.06 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: i changed the cmakelists.txt inside src/rt folder of brlcad (not rt^3) |
19:00.37 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: and it gave me errors so i did a clean download again |
19:00.49 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: How? (post a patch file with your changes) |
19:01.02 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: i am gonna try it again |
19:01.13 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: i deleted it(sorry) |
19:05.37 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Be as precise as possible. I could write "you did it wrong, if you would do it correctly it would work". This would be totally correct, but also absolutely not helpful. |
19:05.37 | cad_zulip | Therefore, provide as much information as possible such that I can point you into the right direction. |
19:07.15 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: ok |
19:07.36 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: my internet is not working that well |
19:09.17 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: so the download is very slow |
19:12.19 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: (Now idea why you have to download the sources again.) |
19:13.03 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: I deleted the whole thing |
19:13.10 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: ð |
19:14.11 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: All of it? You are working with subversion. There you can revert your changes and restore the original sources. |
19:24.55 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: I forgot in the hustle and bustle around me |
19:25.50 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: The whole country is going up in fire due to something( i don't know much about it) |
19:38.56 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: daniel i got this error while make-ing brlcad |
19:39.59 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: [error.png](/user_uploads/1549/bY3HcVseREbIJXpQk7fxkyMp/error.png) |
19:40.08 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: this is is the error |
19:40.30 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: i did nothing |
19:40.50 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: it was a clean download |
19:51.43 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: hello lord |
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20:01.50 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: How does Unit.cpp look? Damaged? |
20:02.35 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: It's now building all right |
20:02.50 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: I think |
20:03.08 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: It haven't got to unit.cpp.o yet |
20:03.33 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: It's right now at 'p' files |
20:03.48 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: It's so late |
20:04.28 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: It's okay to make a break an go to sleep. |
20:09.28 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: It's okay and building right |
20:09.52 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: Thinking about letting it happen during the night |
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06:44.37 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: ```quote |
06:44.37 | cad_zulip | @**Sean** Is it a bad idea to leave semaphores in shootrays_parallel and directly feed rt_shootray to bu_parallel ? |
06:44.37 | cad_zulip | ``` |
06:44.37 | cad_zulip | as with most performance-related questions like that, the answer is a huge "it depends" |
06:46.54 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: in general, i wouldn't leave them in and try to create an impl that doesn't rely on synchronization, but then you also won't likely see any performance implication with most use cases that come to mind. |
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12:30.51 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: please someone review my task |
12:38.44 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Can anyone sort out the task of download and install BRL CAD from the source I can't find it. |
13:03.41 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: [Sean.url](/user_uploads/1549/T8BKuQqfkRBKxrAoZDd6QbUh/Sean.url) Hello Sean, are you there? |
13:04.50 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: @**Sean** Are you there? |
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14:25.44 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Can anyone review my task? |
14:26.00 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: give them some time |
14:26.18 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: they can be in another timezone |
14:26.20 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: so wait |
14:26.28 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: a few more hours |
14:26.29 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: is your appleseed task approved |
14:26.35 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: yea |
14:26.45 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: it got approved yesterday night |
14:27.12 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: no it shows some of the mentors active just now |
14:27.43 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: they have kept zulip open but are sleeping |
14:27.58 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: press on the arrow beside their name |
14:28.08 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: their local time will be shown |
14:31.05 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: how many tasks have you done |
14:33.48 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: helloo |
14:34.28 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: 9? |
14:35.58 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: please send a screenshot or the url of your dashboard |
14:36.10 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: i have done only 5 |
14:36.20 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: ok |
14:36.32 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: i didn t have time to do |
14:36.39 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: ok |
14:40.53 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: hello |
14:53.01 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Hello Sumagna |
15:35.25 | cad_zulip | @**Erik**: @**Thusal Ranawaka** : there are 9 tasks ahead of you in the review queue and the mentors are doing this in spare time, I believe most if not all have jobs and families and such. Please have some patience, we'll get to you |
15:40.27 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: Hey @**Erik** k how's it going? |
15:49.17 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Hello Sumagna |
16:07.15 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: :smirk: |
16:07.43 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: :expressionless: :sob: :sob: |
16:07.58 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Hey Erik |
16:09.47 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: In Appleseed#2 task shows that there is a task for downloading and install BRL CAD from source but I searched that task but I cannot find it. |
16:14.15 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: Hello |
16:15.03 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: :persevere: :persevere: :exhausted: |
16:32.06 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: Hey chiranjiv |
16:32.16 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: What task are u working on now? |
18:15.14 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: Hey @**Daniel Rossberg** How I can determine the value of `return` statement ? |
18:15.53 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: here is an example like this |
18:15.58 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: `template<_GetObject getObject> static int Name |
18:15.58 | cad_zulip | ( |
18:15.58 | cad_zulip | <PROTECTED> |
18:15.58 | cad_zulip | ) { |
18:15.58 | cad_zulip | <PROTECTED> |
18:15.59 | cad_zulip | <PROTECTED> |
18:16.00 | cad_zulip | <PROTECTED> |
18:16.01 | cad_zulip | }` |
18:16.31 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: Here it is returning `1` |
18:28.48 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: btw I got a reference manual to bind it http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#3 |
18:35.42 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: Hey Himanshu |
18:36.17 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: What series of tasks are you working on? |
18:40.42 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: btw I found a class here `class BRLCAD_COREINTERFACE_EXPORT AttributeIterator` |
18:40.51 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: is that what you are pointing to ? |
18:42.18 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: @**Daniel Rossberg** If I am correct than I have to only do the work on `Object atrributes methods` ? |
18:43.00 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: ```quote |
18:43.00 | cad_zulip | Hey Himanshu |
18:43.00 | cad_zulip | ``` |
18:43.00 | cad_zulip | hi |
18:44.18 | cad_zulip | @**Chiranjiv Singh Malhi**: [5487973370429440_1576487376_iges.png](/user_uploads/1549/l1vIzbAnsTg7lhKxEGS2S8FV/5487973370429440_1576487376_iges.png) |
18:44.54 | cad_zulip | @**Chiranjiv Singh Malhi**: Hey can anyone help me whenever I convert from iges to g I never get any geometry |
18:45.03 | cad_zulip | @**Chiranjiv Singh Malhi**: [5487973370429440_1576550320_g.png](/user_uploads/1549/GL0ZB_O1QfjFXDtODC3xMMDQ/5487973370429440_1576550320_g.png) |
18:45.24 | cad_zulip | @**Chiranjiv Singh Malhi**: I used this command |
18:48.11 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: ```quote |
18:48.11 | cad_zulip | Hey @**Daniel Rossberg** How I can determine the value of `return` statement ? |
18:48.11 | cad_zulip | ``` |
18:48.11 | cad_zulip | The function returns the number of return values. The values are put on the stack. In your example, it returns one string. ```lua_pushstring()``` pushes the value on top of the stack and ```return 1;``` signals that the function put one value as a function return on the stack. |
18:49.20 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: Hey Daniel how's it going? |
18:49.36 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: ```quote |
18:49.36 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg** If I am correct than I have to only do the work on `Object atrributes methods` ? |
18:49.36 | cad_zulip | ``` |
18:49.36 | cad_zulip | No, all but the attribute methods. I.e., only the simple ones. |
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18:52.02 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: ```quote |
18:52.02 | cad_zulip | Hey can anyone help me whenever I convert from iges to g I never get any geometry |
18:52.02 | cad_zulip | ``` |
18:52.02 | cad_zulip | It looks like the iges geometry doesn't contain any solid (3D element). |
18:53.51 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: Which task are you one @**Chiranjiv Singh Malhi** ? |
18:55.03 | cad_zulip | @**Chiranjiv Singh Malhi**: Importing from freecad |
18:55.45 | cad_zulip | @**Sumagna Das**: Ok |
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04:14.13 | cad_zulip | @**anshu khare**: I am stuck here..someone please help |
05:01.39 | cad_zulip | @**anshu khare**: Someone please tell that why does it fail to register? |
05:03.48 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: ```quote |
05:03.48 | cad_zulip | in BRLCAD rendering means ray trace? |
05:03.48 | cad_zulip | ``` |
05:03.48 | cad_zulip | yes, rendering typically means ray tracing |
05:06.40 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: ```quote |
05:06.40 | cad_zulip | @**Sean** Is it a bad idea to leave semaphores in shootrays_parallel and directly feed rt_shootray to bu_parallel ? |
05:06.40 | cad_zulip | ``` |
05:06.40 | cad_zulip | @**scorp08** as with most things "it depends". In general, it's not a terrible idea if done right.. It just might slow things down a little bit. However, what your'e suggesting is essentially what rt_shootrays() is doing (without a need for additional semaphores) |
05:07.43 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: ```quote |
05:07.43 | cad_zulip | @**Sean** how to build and compile rtexample.c? |
05:07.43 | cad_zulip | ``` |
05:07.43 | cad_zulip | See the wiki page on it for an example, but the answer very much depends on your operating system. It is already part of the BRL-CAD build, though. It's just not installed (see path/to/build/src/rt/rtexample) |
06:06.36 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: In Appleseed#2 task it shows that there is a task for download and install BRL CAD from source but I cannot find that task. |
06:22.04 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: @**Thusal Ranawaka** there is a task to compile brl-cad from source |
06:22.10 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: how are you searching for it? |
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06:38.07 | cad_zulip | @**Thusal Ranawaka**: I think so |
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07:27.32 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: ```quote |
07:27.33 | cad_zulip | I think so |
07:27.33 | cad_zulip | ``` |
07:27.33 | cad_zulip | what? I asked *how* are you searching for it. what method or search terms are you using? |
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14:34.58 | starseeker | The MSVC Windows build should be fixed now - at least, it is now working for me |
14:35.36 | starseeker | (trunk) |
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08:31.43 | utsav_sachdeva | Hi everyone i am utsav sachdaveva participating in google code in for the 2nd time this year. I am new to 3d modelling and designing and i hope to learn new stuff from you all. |
08:34.06 | utsav_sachdeva | And my favourite task would be to model the geometric dice as snap fit puzzle because it involves killer imagination and puzzle! |
08:40.10 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: @**utsav sachdeva** welcome and glad to hear you're a GCI veteran! looking forward to seeing what you can come up with for the dice puzzle. if it works, I just might be able to get it 3d printed. |
08:47.45 | utsav_sachdeva | thanks, i hope not to dissapoint you :) |
15:25.42 | cad_zulip | @**D.Phaneesh**: Hi everyone! I'm participating in GCI - it's my first time and I'm really excited! I think the "Make a 3D keychain with the P.E.R.A. logo" task sounds really interesting. |
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17:06.12 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: I'm not familiar with that task... |
17:07.23 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: @**D.Phaneesh** Link to the task? I'm not familiar with that one. |
17:08.50 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: ah, @**D.Phaneesh** that is a liquid galaxy project, not a brl-cad project (but you're more than welcome to create the design in brl-cad) |
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