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06:15.07 | CorruptorEYE | Hey there!! I am pleased to work on a task by BRL-CAD on Google Code-in. BRL-CAD is doing a wonderful job.!! |
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22:38.48 | yukonbob | hello #brlcad :) |
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01:41.45 | yukonbob | pkgsrc -current devel/cmake not building for others w/ a heimdal error, or just me? |
01:42.05 | yukonbob | oops. ww |
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07:09.19 | brlcad | howdy yukonbob |
16:56.01 | yukonbob | maw brlcad |
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17:55.01 | brlcad | lots of sysadmin backlogging fixes today |
17:55.16 | brlcad | ``Erik: updated portupgrade, so it should be working again |
17:55.46 | brlcad | website now consistently maps all net/com/org requests to org and forces https |
17:56.38 | brlcad | our ssl cert now also hosts a slew of aliases so we shouldn't get warnings/errors on common aliases |
17:56.43 | brlcad | (e.g., www) |
18:10.01 | teepee_ | ahh, I see brl-cad on the gsoc orgs list, thanks brlcad |
18:10.13 | teepee_ | but you knew that already of cause :D |
18:12.10 | teepee_ | pointing to wiki, not the github page though? |
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06:20.38 | jaidev01 | Hiii |
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06:24.21 | jaidev01 | Hello |
06:27.01 | jaidev01 | I am jaidev i want to work with brlcad for gsoc |
06:52.18 | jaidev01 | @brlcad hello |
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11:12.08 | jagadish | hi , im jagadish and i would like to help in the STEP- importer project |
11:14.32 | jagadish | can i get some more information by some mentors? |
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05:30.50 | brlcad | Freso: you can /query me any time, my barefooted friend! no ask needed. |
06:04.45 | brlcad | Freso: glad the emergency was called off, but feel free to let me know what if any changes gciq needs/needed. unicode encoding/decoding seems to be the unending drama. |
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15:24.19 | gsharp_ | I'm really interested to contribute to this project: https://brlcad.org/wiki/OpenCL_GPGPU_Raytracing. Can anyone guide me on how to contribute to it :) |
15:24.41 | gsharp_ | At present I'm going through OpenCL docs |
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21:41.12 | yukonbob | hey brlcad |
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07:54.21 | SOOP3RN3TZ__ | THIS CHANNEL HAS SMALL DICK ENERGY | ALL CHATTERS MUST QUARANTINE ON ð¸ðð².ððð¿ð´ðð½ð´ðð.ð¾ðð¶ #ððð¿ð´ðð±ð¾ðð» |
07:54.22 | SOOP3RN3TZ__ | ââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââ |
07:54.23 | SOOP3RN3TZ__ | âââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââ |
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07:54.24 | SOOP3RN3TZ__ | RIDE OUT THIS TARANTINO FILM IN A BIG DICK NETWORK |
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07:54.32 | Caterpillar | fuck you |
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19:51.28 | theodore | Hi everyone, I'm just a noob with a few questions. May I ask? |
19:56.34 | theodore | The latest BRL-CAD version (7.26 or 7.30) for macOS Is not available for download from source forge. Any suggestions for a reliable source? |
20:02.07 | theodore | exi$t |
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00:49.31 | tpanmajia | any inspiration for designing a creative CAD model? |
00:49.52 | tpanmajia | going to train myself in BRL-CAD |
00:50.23 | tpanmajia | just need inspiration, designing will be done by myself though |
00:50.41 | tpanmajia | the only topic I can think of is Glenda the Plan 9 bunny |
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19:51.23 | yukonbob | hello #brlcad |
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04:19.46 | brlcad | really needs to get us on something that bridges to irc better... to many messages missed |
05:13.46 | brlcad | there, now .bz is using about a half-gig to a gig less memory, so should run into the ceiling a bit less frequently, particularly for jenkins jobs |
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19:00.02 | yukonbob | hello #brlcad |
19:00.46 | brlcad | howdy yukonbob! ready for a coding project? :) |
21:09.01 | yukonbob | hey brlcad ;) |
21:09.15 | yukonbob | what's the project -- same thing we talked about those weeks ago in email ? |
21:09.28 | yukonbob | actually has time, should take on a challenge... |
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04:40.12 | brlcad | yukonbob: that's fantastic |
04:42.22 | brlcad | yes either of the ones mentioned would be a nice start -- I suggest starting with the simpler of the two |
04:50.44 | brlcad | doing just about anything in libged is a good starting point. perhaps start with the first in src/libged/TODO, merge all the color commands into one color command |
04:51.35 | brlcad | if you like design, you can design 'color' however you think makes sense, or I can propose a direction or work with you on the design |
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17:50.01 | yukonbob | pulls out that mail... canonical repo still svn ? |
17:50.10 | yukonbob | brlcad: --^ |
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06:17.29 | brlcad | yukonbob: for now yes, we haven't flipped the switch just yet |
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17:30.27 | yukonbob | re: repos -- when the switch flips, it'll be -> git, or ->hg, or ->other ? |
17:31.42 | yukonbob | NetBSD -->.<-- this close to switching over to hg |
17:34.15 | yukonbob | slightly disappointed w/ dscm... disappointment came on just recently. Still ~best thing to happen for software development in the last ~15 years |
17:54.33 | brlcad | yukonbob: it'll be git on github |
17:55.52 | brlcad | we'll still be doing a centralized development model and probably trunk based development |
18:10.39 | yukonbob | "trunk-based-development" excursions in branches, then reviewed and integrated, or projects/experiments in branches, but production commits really always (usually) happen in trunk |
18:18.28 | brlcad | the latter |
18:47.22 | yukonbob | nods |
18:48.20 | yukonbob | , is always keen to hear thoughts of @brlcad wrt philosophy of development |
18:51.52 | yukonbob | I occacsionally cite you re: defense of (iirc) CVS at the time. Roughly: "Despite it's flaws, it's battle-hardened, which is necessarily hard-fought. The flaws are now well-known, so we live with them while deciding what new batch of flaws to move on to..." |
18:55.15 | brlcad | well thank you |
19:01.00 | yukonbob | you're welcome |
19:02.17 | yukonbob | I think [that CVS story, for example] is a perspective thats under-represented, if not generally unknown or at least unconsidered. |
19:53.45 | yukonbob | laughts, seeing the CVS story was also mentioned in our last email convo ;) |
19:53.50 | yukonbob | *laughs |
19:54.32 | yukonbob | it'll come to be my "burning rig" Nokia rallying cry |
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19:32.41 | yukonbob | hello #brlcad |
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22:48.02 | kanzure | brlcad: looking at conv3.git, i don't see SVN-COMMIT-ID tags or CVS-COMMIT-ID values in the commit messages-- hopefully this mapping is preserved somewhere |
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18:00.44 | yukonbob | hello #brlcad |
19:01.24 | Sean[m] | kanzure: they're preserved in git notes. |
19:02.13 | Sean[m] | if you run git fetch origin refs/notes/commits:refs/notes/commits, you'll see them on git log |
23:16.16 | kanzure | Sean[m]: thank you |
23:18.06 | Sean[m] | kanzure: that's not to say we'll keep in that way. notes are somewhat cumbersome to maintain as they can get disassociated if a commit is edited. we may end up simply appending the notes to the commit log. thoughts? ] |
23:19.26 | kanzure | depends on how it is appended to the commit log i suppose |
23:19.41 | kanzure | most convenient place is in hte commit message, but actually, there is room for extra data in the signature field of git commits |
23:19.48 | kanzure | this is where opentimestamps stuffs timestamps |
23:21.43 | kanzure | https://github.com/opentimestamps/opentimestamps-client/blob/master/otsclient/git_gpg_wrapper.py#L137..L138 |
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06:21.26 | yukonbob | hello #brlcad |
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19:00.08 | genii | Hello, is there a concise tutorial or examples that may be be useful for someone more used to FreeCAD previously? |
19:02.52 | genii | ..also, any way to make mged prettier? |
19:03.30 | Sean[m] | hi @genii -- yes, there are a series of introductory tutorials on the website wiki. the "mged tutorial series" |
19:04.26 | Sean[m] | to make mged prettier, you can customize fonts and colors. some like to turn on quad view. Others really like the look of archer over mged, though there are some behavior differences. |
19:04.47 | Sean[m] | intro to mged is here: https://brlcad.org/wiki/Documentation |
19:09.05 | genii | Sean[m]: Thanks! |
19:09.15 | Sean[m] | of course |
19:19.56 | genii | Found https://brlcad.org/w/images/c/cf/Introduction_to_MGED.pdf now, will study |
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20:08.45 | epileg | hello. After compiling BRL-CAD 7.32.0 on Ubuntu 64 bit, got this error running Archer: |
20:08.47 | epileg | $ ./archer |
20:08.47 | epileg | archer tclcad init failure: |
20:09.53 | epileg | RtWizard too: |
20:09.57 | epileg | $ ./rtwizard |
20:09.57 | epileg | tclcad init failure: |
20:09.57 | epileg | can't find package cadwidgets::RtImage |
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21:49.31 | yukonbob | hello #brlcad |
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14:49.13 | brlcad | howdy yukonbob :) |
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23:58.34 | yukonbob | hello #brlcad |
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03:25.05 | Moult | brlcad: ping :) thought i'd catch you on irc |
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08:37.48 | brlcad | hello Moult, pong |
08:58.27 | teepee | hey brlcad :) |
08:59.22 | teepee | did you see the discussion on github? |
09:07.14 | Moult | brlcad teepee g'day :) just thought i'd ping about https://github.com/opencax/opencax.github.io/issues/2 |
09:27.08 | teepee | hi Moult |
09:27.16 | Moult | teepee: g'day :) |
09:28.13 | teepee | joining the fun at interesting times with the big changes in GSoC rules :) |
09:28.21 | Moult | teepee: what are the big changes? |
09:28.40 | Moult | teepee: i've never been involved in a past gsoc so i don't have a point of comparison :) |
09:32.14 | teepee | much short project time (pretty much half) and I guess it's a bit unclear what that will mean for |
09:32.25 | teepee | the whole thing |
09:32.36 | teepee | like if there will be more projects accepted and such |
09:33.17 | Moult | teepee:how long do the students have to do their work? |
09:33.26 | Moult | teepee: from memory it was 3 months? |
09:37.18 | teepee | yep |
09:37.39 | teepee | blog post... https://opensource.googleblog.com/2020/10/google-summer-of-code-2021-is-bringing.html |
09:39.56 | Moult | teepee: thanks for the link :) 10 weeks is indeed quite short |
09:42.26 | teepee | yeah, I'm still a bit unclear if it will make sense for us (OpenSCAD) it certainly means pretty much all of the existing project proposals dont work anymore |
09:44.29 | teepee | but as brlcad said in an earlier discussion it also has a couple of chances for interesting new ways how it could go |
09:45.28 | teepee | thing is that we are not a huge team, and I guess independent of the shorter project length, it's still requires the same amount of mentors |
09:58.40 | Moult | teepee: most foss cad seems to be small teams :( |
18:28.41 | brlcad | teepee: yes, I just responded -- it's been on my radar since it was posted, intending to reply but I was on vacation when it came in |
18:30.54 | brlcad | appreciate you, yorik, and others keeping the discussion going |
18:31.08 | teepee | oh my, I guess we should let you get back to Thanksgiving :) |
18:31.59 | brlcad | no worries, asynchronouse discussions ;) |
18:32.24 | TheJollyRoger | Hi guys! |
18:33.18 | teepee | hi! |
18:34.00 | TheJollyRoger | Hey! I'm a long time watcher, but haven't really taken part in discussions here much. I'm coming into this with no experience in MGED but a lot of experience at PTC Creo, Inventor and Siemens PLM NX. |
18:34.21 | brlcad | Moult: my biggest unspoken concern is ifcopenshell vs blenderbim vs openbim -- in terms of maturity, ifcopenshell is a no-brainer. if it weren't for opencascade, I'd have already pushed to integrate it into BRL-CAD, but having to manage handing geometry between multiple major geometry engines isn't something terribly appealing just yet :) |
18:34.22 | TheJollyRoger | Really eager to get started and try out BRL CAD sometime, been scouring the manuals for MGED and hoping I'll be able to wrap my head around this all. |
18:34.54 | brlcad | hello TheJollyRoger ! that's not surprising because we've not used IRC as our primary channel in years. |
18:35.52 | brlcad | I'm hoping to bridge everything back when we migrate from Zulip to Matrix (Gitter/Element), which bridges better with IRC than Zulip. |
18:36.14 | brlcad | TheJollyRoger: feel free to join us on https://brlcad.zulipchat.com too, that's where most of the guys are watching. |
18:37.21 | brlcad | teepee: I hope it makes sense for you guys! at least one slot... ;) |
18:37.24 | teepee | oh, matrix, yay! |
18:37.47 | TheJollyRoger | Ah, heh, I used to be big on Matrix, some time ago, but eventually migrated back to IRC. |
18:37.50 | teepee | yeah, at this point, I don't see 2 slots happening anyway |
18:38.19 | brlcad | I've been using Element since early summer now and have been liking it. |
18:38.39 | TheJollyRoger | Hey right on. I hope you'll keep IRC around, since I find that's probably the best for me. |
18:38.51 | TheJollyRoger | Strange as it's going to sound. |
18:38.55 | brlcad | Element purchased Gitter recently and said they're moving them to Matrix |
18:39.00 | TheJollyRoger | Hey right on. |
18:39.29 | brlcad | I love IRC, it's my preferred |
18:40.14 | TheJollyRoger | So do I! |
18:40.16 | yukonbob | hello #brlcad -- like a buzzing beehive in here ;) |
18:40.26 | TheJollyRoger | Yeah man! |
18:40.43 | brlcad | one of the things we learned from years of gci and gsoc, though, is that it is a big barrier for new contributors and harder to ensure project successes since it requires more synchronous attention |
18:40.52 | TheJollyRoger | When I read about BRL CAD I knew I just had to try it and possibly try compiling it on POWER9. |
18:40.54 | brlcad | howdy yukonbob .. yeah! |
18:41.10 | brlcad | TheJollyRoger: I compile it on power series regularly ;) |
18:41.14 | yukonbob | brlcad: o/ |
18:41.17 | TheJollyRoger | ...! |
18:41.18 | TheJollyRoger | AWESOME! |
18:41.31 | TheJollyRoger | Excellent aw man you are my hero! |
18:42.00 | yukonbob | technical q that's been on mind for a bit, and now that some nerds are here (haha) -- does BRLCAD have any notions of Wayland ? |
18:42.59 | TheJollyRoger | I currently am looking to make the jump from Siemens PLM NX and PTC Creo to BRL CAD, I'm kind of nervous about it and having to relearn everything from scratch, but that's part of the fun. |
18:43.15 | brlcad | yukonbob: in what sense? it does in the sense that it'll display on wayland because our windowing does, but nothing direct. if anything, our long-term direction is Qt so 'yes' from that indirect perspective. |
18:43.24 | TheJollyRoger | Wow. |
18:43.58 | yukonbob | brlcad: ah ok -- so the windowing does integrate w/ some wayland compositor -- that's all I wanted to know... |
18:45.04 | brlcad | TheJollyRoger: BRL-CAD is one of the oldest "portable" software systems predating things like TCP, ANSI C, and OpenGL ;) Our portability has degraded in recent years as we've embraced more and more modern libraries and standards, but I still have the perspective that it should compile and run if you can get the code on it. :) |
18:45.14 | yukonbob | currently working on Wayland/NetBSD, which is a WIP, but slowly heading in Wayland direction.... |
18:46.43 | yukonbob | re: QT -- does this speak to anything that's going on w/ Tcl in BRLCAD? |
18:47.06 | yukonbob | doesn't recall now if previous display was Tk or some other form of X11 on *nix.... |
18:47.08 | TheJollyRoger | brlcad: woohoo! |
18:47.31 | TheJollyRoger | I've got a lot of CPU cores and a lot of RAM, so I'd like to try sometime when I figure it out. |
18:47.53 | brlcad | yukonbob: I believe it'll happen via XWayland currently (for Xlib apps like our direct code). Tk I don't think has added Wayland as a backend yet. I believe Qt has direct support. |
18:48.38 | brlcad | yukonbob: current display tech is a mix of direct Xlib calls and Tk |
18:48.47 | yukonbob | ^- ah... perfect. |
18:48.49 | brlcad | opengl is optional |
18:49.39 | brlcad | TheJollyRoger: if you have a lot of cores, be sure to compile from source optimized (release mode), run the BRL-CAD Benchmark, and submit your performance results |
18:50.02 | TheJollyRoger | I will! I'll have to figure out what to do. I'm pretty new to this honestly. |
18:50.49 | yukonbob | brlcad: iirc Tk *does* have a pretty good path to Wayland, but I haven't pinned down details - I'm currently porting/stablizing Wayland to my NetBSD env, then working on some app integration... |
18:51.08 | yukonbob | Tk will one of the things I'll be looking at (surprise). |
18:56.21 | TheJollyRoger | brlcad, currently I've got a Talos, it's a pretty powerful machine with two CPUs and an AMD Vega Graphics card. I'm hoping that it might be a good match! |
18:57.04 | TheJollyRoger | Occasionally the amdgpu does misbehave so I have to fiddle with or change the kernel. |
18:58.07 | TheJollyRoger | *amdgpu driver |
19:53.00 | brlcad | TheJollyRoger: no worries, feel free to ask lots of questions. happy to answer and help you figure things out, find an exciting project |
19:53.08 | TheJollyRoger | Thanks! |
19:53.22 | TheJollyRoger | I might be a bit slow to get there, since I've been pretty swamped, but I'm really glad for this channel! |
21:44.54 | Moult | brlcad: g'day |
21:45.59 | Moult | brlcad: the ifcopenshell repo has contained code for blender since 2011, but the main dev didn't have time to maintain it, so i've been hacking on it since 2019 |
21:46.43 | Moult | brlcad: and since then it was rebranded by the users who called it "blenderbim". but the codebase is still part of ifcopenshell |
21:47.04 | Moult | brlcad: hope that clarifies it? |
21:48.03 | Moult | brlcad: also to clarify "OpenBIM" is not a project. it's all just really one project "IfcOpenShell". openbim is the umbrella of standards that ifcopenshell supports, and the blenderbim is the commonly used name for one of the components of ifcopenshell; |
21:49.53 | Moult | brlcad: in terms of mentors, aothms and I are the main devs. we have some other more casual contributors, but most likely it'll be aothms and I being the only mentors |
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06:07.23 | yukonbob | hello #brlcad |
09:56.20 | Moult | yukonbob: g'day :) |
19:08.45 | yukonbob | hello, Moult :) |
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18:41.00 | yukonbob | hello #brlcad |
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12:26.32 | aniketonroll[m]1 | Hey everyone! I'm Aniket Khandagale 2nd year computer science undergraduate from MU, India. I'm kind of new but really interested to start contributing. I have knowledge of C++ and would love to learn other stuff in the way. A little guidance would help. Can i get link for beginner issues which i can fix |
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