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02:20.23 *** join/#brlcad adgf (~adgf@h00a0cc687033.ne.client2.attbi.com)
02:44.44 CIA-3 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10rt^3/TODO: more libraries for consideration and finalize a few that are worth integrating
05:25.27 CIA-3 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10rt^3/TODO: lil more -- perhaps sdl
05:28.53 CIA-3 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10rt^3/configure.ac: add debug, profile, optimization, profiling options. remove the unused function checks. add versioning, summary cleanup, and other major cleanups pulled from brl-cad's organization.
05:30.35 CIA-3 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10rt^3/misc/elapsed.sh: initial elapsed timing script pulled from brl-cad
05:31.02 CIA-3 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10rt^3/misc/vers.sh: initial elapsed versioning script pulled and modified from brl-cad
05:32.56 CIA-3 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10rt^3/ (Makefile.am include/Makefile.am): add timing and summary output to the build system (carried over from the beauty put into brl-cad's build system)
06:10.56 *** join/#brlcad jano (point@portablehole.net)
06:11.05 jano BORK!!!
06:11.15 learner bork!
06:11.23 learner sup
06:11.26 jano I am both happy and sad
06:11.41 jano sad, my computer keeps frying hte network at home for no reason
06:11.45 jano happy.. because ;)
06:11.48 jano how about you?
06:11.54 learner heh
06:12.01 learner I'm about to go to bed
06:12.04 jano awee
06:12.04 learner but otherwise good
06:12.06 jano :)
06:12.12 jano how is lifting coming?
06:12.17 learner going well
06:12.25 learner biceps are sore from a workout yesterday
06:12.34 jano heheh
06:12.40 learner tomorrow will be back and triceps
06:12.43 jano ah
06:12.46 jano today was rest?
06:12.51 learner yep
06:12.59 learner today was also a day off
06:13.04 learner otherwise it would have been cardio
06:13.12 jano cardio
06:13.14 jano shit
06:13.14 learner so tomorrow should also be cardio
06:13.20 jano i will have cariac arrest soon
06:13.23 jano cardiac
06:13.35 learner this is working so much better for my body than powering was..
06:13.43 jano wow
06:13.45 jano cool!
06:13.46 learner i really need the 2 days rest between muscle groups
06:13.59 jano everyone is different body
06:14.03 jano powerlifting works for me
06:14.12 jano 15" biceps :D
06:14.17 learner powerlifting worked for my quads..
06:14.25 learner but then my knees eventually couldn't keep up
06:14.28 jano eep
06:26.05 jano so what you benching now?
06:30.54 learner dunno.. I'm not going to really pay attention until around new years
06:31.03 jano okay, cool
06:31.16 jano btw, what film do you usually use?
06:31.29 learner till then, I'm focusing more on all my shoulder/chest
06:31.47 learner pec dec, triceps, incline, decline, bench, back
06:32.07 learner etc
06:32.53 jano hmm
06:33.02 jano and you going alone to gym, or taking jason with you?
06:33.45 learner so far just myself
06:33.51 jano hmm
06:33.57 jano i can't get motivation to do cardio
06:33.58 learner difficult to go with him ..
06:34.04 jano i can actually grab a piece of my stomach
06:34.06 jano why difficult?
06:34.15 learner it has to be _at_ 4 or he won't go..
06:34.23 learner or like 4:30
06:34.41 jano hmm
06:34.47 jano he's too tied into the whole marriage thing
06:36.01 learner it's not just marriage.. it's just him mentally forcing himself onto a schedule
06:36.15 jano ah
06:36.24 jano well, some people need schedule
06:36.25 learner my schedule is never set really
06:36.40 jano you and jason are total opposites when it comes to scheduling
06:36.41 jano :)
06:37.01 learner yeah.. and that makes going to the gym with him really really hard :)
06:37.09 jano hahaha
06:37.21 jano i kinda fall between you two
06:37.28 jano i like to have an idea of a schedule
06:38.02 learner for this lifting, I'm letting my body dictate everything..
06:38.32 jano hmm
06:38.34 jano errr
06:38.37 jano dunno if I agree
06:38.41 jano it's good to push limits
06:38.44 learner I work 1 or 2 muscles really hard on one day, and then leave it alone until it stops hurting
06:38.55 learner and while it's healing, I do the same to others
06:39.23 learner for any given muscle, I do push it's limit .. but then i give it time to heal
06:39.28 jano hmm
06:39.31 jano that's good
06:39.52 learner hmm.. i wonder..
06:40.17 jano uh oh
06:40.26 jano gonna put my 15 inches to shame
06:40.36 learner heh, 15"
06:41.06 jano hmm
06:41.13 jano curse you
06:41.59 learner where you measuring from?
06:42.03 learner that's across the middle
06:42.13 jano the biggest part of the bicep, of course
06:42.29 learner 15.5 across the top
06:42.38 learner tricep is bigger up top
06:42.43 jano hmm
06:42.55 jano i take the part of my arm that's thickest
06:42.59 jano i barely get to 15"
06:43.10 jano when I'm pumped up, it goes to something like 15.25
06:43.13 learner the middle "looks" the thickest.. but measure says not
06:43.23 jano maybe even more
06:43.53 jano hey, got a moment to talk cameras?
06:44.17 learner like what?
06:44.26 learner f-stop
06:44.27 learner aperature
06:44.31 learner lens
06:44.33 jano film stuff
06:44.38 jano I'm thinking it was a mistake
06:44.38 learner isa
06:44.44 jano my first couple rolls were flukes
06:44.45 learner ? what
06:45.01 jano these last half dozen I've shot are terrible
06:45.07 learner heh
06:45.19 jano kodak max film is awefully ugly/grainy
06:45.37 learner it is total crap.. that's what I was complaining about in the digitals
06:45.50 learner i think they actually changed their "definition"
06:46.11 jano my first couple rolss, the ones that were good, were fuji
06:46.16 learner and now their "high-def" is what used to be max, and max is the crappy unlabeled stuff they used to sell
06:46.29 jano hmm
06:46.35 jano i can't find fuji film cheap
06:46.43 learner the professional b&w roll I had came out beautiful
06:46.49 jano oooo, cool
06:47.02 learner had to send it in, but it did come out nice
06:47.02 jano you saw my montreal b&w pics, right? I had a couple nice ones in there
06:47.11 jano which film did you use?
06:47.45 learner i forget the exact name, but it was a professional-grade kodac roll I got from a shop in LA before I left
06:48.07 jano ah
06:48.10 jano tmax?
06:49.04 learner sounds familiar
06:49.30 learner maybe t400 CN
06:49.43 jano so should I just sell the lenses I bought on ebay, and try to go for a dslr instead?
06:50.02 learner heh, i dunno
06:50.09 learner could just try to get better at it :)
06:50.14 jano :)
06:50.26 jano I'm not sure what to take pictures of anymore
06:50.30 jano getting bored of the roses
06:51.04 learner i've seen commercials for the canon rebel, nikon d70, and sony's several times since thanksgiving..
06:51.10 jano hehehe
06:51.21 jano d70 is becoming very attractive in price
06:51.39 jano you can get body now for $800
06:51.50 jano http://www.techbargains.com/
06:51.52 learner their commercial was pretty slick
06:52.29 jano dude.. i handled the camera at best buy.. it's a pretty slick camera
06:52.31 learner marketed on their <3 fps
06:52.32 jano small viewfinder, though
06:52.45 learner er, >3
06:52.52 jano I still keep looking back to the pentax and fujis, though
06:53.51 jano the S2, although a slow camera, is based on nikon, and has the cleanest iso's of all
06:53.59 jano and you can use nikon lenses with it
06:55.49 learner (this week) I think I've decided to wait for the next gen. and hold out for my 10MP
06:56.05 learner though those feelings might change (next week)