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brlcad |
there |
01:00.33 |
brlcad |
now c1;2cgi:irc is up and running |
01:00.41 |
brlcad |
http://irc.brlcad.org |
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EricWilhelm |
hmm. a bit slow? |
03:21.19 |
learner |
slow? |
03:21.28 |
learner |
busy busy here :) |
03:21.41 |
EricWilhelm |
(irc.brlcad.org) maybe it doesn't play well
with konqueror |
03:23.01 |
learner |
ahh |
03:23.21 |
learner |
probably the latter .. it's got issues with a
variety of browsers |
03:23.30 |
learner |
did it give you a red warning? |
03:33.55 |
jano |
bork |
03:41.44 |
learner |
sup |
03:58.25 |
brlcad |
ahh, yes.. konqueror 2 is listed as a problem
.. do you know your version string? |
04:12.35 |
jano |
wait |
04:12.37 |
jano |
i'm confused |
04:13.26 |
jano |
which one are you? :P |
04:24.44 |
brlcad |
:P |
04:29.09 |
jano |
:P |
04:29.57 |
EricWilhelm |
brlcad, 3.2.2 |
04:30.15 |
brlcad |
that 'splains it |
04:31.57 |
brlcad |
there, that should at least put the
warning |
04:32.02 |
EricWilhelm |
is javascript required? |
04:32.47 |
brlcad |
cgi:irc does an unterminated streaming http to
keep the irc connection open .. several browsers don't like
that |
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04:33.00 |
brlcad |
did you see the warning? |
04:33.10 |
cad329 |
yeah, but it seems to work fine here |
04:33.22 |
brlcad |
ah, that's good |
04:33.28 |
cad329 |
one issue, is that I was using privoxy on the
other computer |
04:33.49 |
jano |
warning? |
04:34.01 |
cad329 |
this is the same konqueror, different
workstation |
04:34.11 |
jano |
oh |
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04:34.16 |
brlcad |
so it is working then |
04:34.44 |
EricWilhelm |
yeah, let me check the js settings |
04:35.11 |
cad329 |
right, js is enabled here |
04:36.33 |
EricWilhelm |
no, must be privoxy (same js settings on both
boxen) |
04:36.48 |
brlcad |
supposed to just be a fall-back for the folks
that no nothing about irc .. get them in and then make em find a
real irc client ;) |
04:37.32 |
EricWilhelm |
I guess you can put something about 'apt-get
install xchat' in the warning if you see Debian in their browser
ID |
04:54.27 |
brlcad |
hehe |
04:54.41 |
brlcad |
most of the folks I'd worry about are not
using linux ;) |
05:03.14 |
narnia |
brlcad, hello, how goes it? concerning step
files; what are your thought, ideas, dreams, etc for the step
interface? |
05:04.30 |
brlcad |
what do you mean? |
05:04.54 |
brlcad |
ideally we'll have a full ap203/214 step-g and
g-step converter ;) |
05:06.27 |
brlcad |
dreams are to have it completed at least
functionally sometime this summer before siggraph |
05:10.54 |
brlcad |
same goes for a prototype of the new project
management interface that wraps all the tools |
05:18.22 |
narnia |
brlcad, okay |
05:20.03 |
brlcad |
narnia: what are your thoughts? |
05:24.36 |
narnia |
brlcad, well first need iso-10303-21 at a
minimum to understand the syntax of the step files. using
iso-10303-21 or the nist step library parse the step
files. |
05:25.45 |
narnia |
brlcad, the next phase would be to determine
how step constructs map to brl-cad g, and create the mappings. this
part would be bi-directional. |
05:26.39 |
narnia |
brlcad, the third phase would be to run as
many step files through the step-g conversion to determine where
the bugs, misktakes, errors, etc are. |
05:26.56 |
narnia |
brlcad, repeat as necessary. |
05:29.26 |
narnia |
brlcad, basically how would something like
"#670499=CIRCLE('',#670498,9.E0);" map to brl-cad q? |
05:30.35 |
brlcad |
the actual mapping is not going to be
difficult at all -- most everything will map directly that has to
do with actual geometry |
05:31.06 |
brlcad |
splines might be complicated.. would have to
see the inputs |
05:31.38 |
brlcad |
a 2D shape maps to the sketch primitive (which
has many subshapes including a circle/arc) |
05:32.06 |
narnia |
brlcad, that "#670498" above is a
variable. |
05:33.02 |
brlcad |
all part of the express syntax, yes |
05:33.23 |
brlcad |
? |
05:33.28 |
narnia |
brlcad, are you asking or telling? |
05:33.51 |
brlcad |
:) asking |
05:34.14 |
narnia |
brlcad, all part of the express syntax,
yes. |
05:34.18 |
brlcad |
from what I've seen of the actual file, there
are a variety of express constructs that would have to be
supported |
05:34.32 |
brlcad |
as part of the parser that builds a geometry
tree |
05:35.46 |
brlcad |
in that simple form, it's just a named
reference to a circle object -- you end up with substitutions under
you have actual geometry |
05:36.03 |
narnia |
brlcad, having iso-10303-21 would allow for a
lex, yacc ( flex,bison ) parser. or go for recursive-descent
parser. |
05:36.05 |
brlcad |
constraints will be a problem, though we can
stash them into attributes for now |
05:38.58 |
narnia |
brb need decaf coffee. |
05:43.10 |
brlcad |
i'd very much agree |
05:44.57 |
brlcad |
I'm trying to track down where our printed
copy came from |
05:52.38 |
narnia |
brlcad, have you heard of the 'enhanced
machine controller (emc) project' at nist? |
05:52.54 |
brlcad |
doesn't ring a bell |
05:53.31 |
narnia |
the emc project is also hosted on
sourceforge.net. |
05:54.50 |
brlcad |
sounds like something related to milling and
CAM |
05:54.59 |
narnia |
it is. |
05:55.07 |
narnia |
cnc |
05:55.11 |
brlcad |
ahh |
05:55.13 |
narnia |
g-code. |
05:55.30 |
narnia |
i have worked on that project off and
on. |
05:56.20 |
brlcad |
ahh, generates g-code for cnc
machines? |
05:56.27 |
brlcad |
link? |
05:56.34 |
narnia |
brb |
05:57.21 |
narnia |
https://sourceforge.net/projects/emc/ |
05:59.10 |
narnia |
and my cad-cam project that i have been
working on for several years. http://gnu-cad-cam.sourceforge.net/ |
06:00.06 |
narnia |
i have not updated that page in
awhile. |
06:00.21 |
brlcad |
interesting |
06:01.53 |
brlcad |
i see you're a bit off your timeline..
:) |
06:02.18 |
brlcad |
how far into your implementation did you
get? |
06:03.21 |
narnia |
it is difficult to work on project when
recovering from several surgeries over the years. since the work
accident on 26 nov 1996 i have had 7 major surgeries. |
06:03.49 |
brlcad |
understandable |
06:05.23 |
narnia |
pretty much to this point :
http://gnu-cad-cam.sourceforge.net/block-diagrams.html#LEVEL-SIX-DETAIL-BLOCK-DIAGRAM |
06:07.38 |
narnia |
had some helpers over the years but events
happen. one helper's mother died of breast cancer. one helper was
killed in a car accident by a drunk driver. one helper got
married. |
06:07.49 |
brlcad |
incredible complexity in the "process"
block |
06:08.49 |
narnia |
tool path routines still need alot of
work. |
06:09.05 |
brlcad |
and how the human input interacts.. the
gui/cli? |
06:10.13 |
narnia |
cli, and lisp scripts. |
06:11.22 |
narnia |
my menu helper was the one who got married and
started a family. she has higher priorities now. |
06:12.24 |
narnia |
the is no "wimp" interface. (wimp -- windows,
icons, menus, pop-up/pop-down) |
06:14.33 |
brlcad |
yep, go that |
06:15.12 |
narnia |
the only controller it supports is
emc. |
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narnia |
now that brl-cad is open source my dream is to
have brl-cad eventually interface to emc. |
06:25.45 |
brlcad |
would be a nice bridge to eventually have a
path to g-code |
06:31.47 |
narnia |
brb |
07:16.13 |
narnia |
back |
07:16.26 |
narnia |
had to let the dog out and the cat
in. |
07:18.46 |
brlcad |
what kind of dog? |
07:21.59 |
narnia |
huck is half border collie and half springer
spanniel |
07:22.42 |
narnia |
huck is old like me and he has a pinched nerve
in his neck. huck is having troublem walk and i am going to have to
put him down soon. :-( |
07:23.23 |
narnia |
huck, has been my daily companion since
1996. |
07:24.04 |
narnia |
we got huck as a puppy in 1994. |
08:06.05 |
brlcad |
:( |
08:06.08 |
brlcad |
sorry to hear that |
08:06.56 |
brlcad |
my dog's getting old too, born in
'92 |
08:07.30 |
brlcad |
had his mother most of her life before him
too |
08:17.26 |
narnia |
it would cost 2-3k to operate on the pinched
nerve in his neck. given huck's age the vet is not sure he would
survive such a major surgery. |
08:21.08 |
narnia |
i am beginning to nod off. i am calling it a
night. talk with you later today perhaps. |
08:21.23 |
narnia |
goodnight and peaceful dreams |
08:27.31 |
brlcad |
alright |
08:27.43 |
brlcad |
thanks for the info earlier re your
project |
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