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Azlan |
hi.. I'm trying to compile brl-cad on my WinXp
computer.. But the problem is.. i looked at the source and there
only U*ix scripts.. Any alternative package?? |
12:49.29 |
Azlan |
Should i dl automake for windows to? |
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brlcad |
Azlan: there are studio workspace build files
(awefully out of date) in some of the directories that might be
helpful |
14:02.16 |
brlcad |
Azlan: more likely, though, the easiest path
to getting everything to work is via mingw/cygwin |
14:02.49 |
brlcad |
there are new .net build files being put
together, but those will not be likely ready for a while |
14:03.40 |
brlcad |
I'll be glad to help you through any problems
you have with the build regardless of the build method, but
especially if you choose the mingw route |
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narnia |
knock, knock, anyone home? |
18:04.47 |
brlcad |
howdy ho |
18:23.21 |
narnia |
brlcad, you still here? |
18:23.53 |
narnia |
brlcad, sorry i was reading an e-mail
list. |
18:24.06 |
narnia |
brlcad, i have some good news. |
19:27.55 |
brlcad |
good news? :) |
19:34.34 |
narnia |
brlcad, you still here? |
19:34.56 |
narnia |
brlcad, yes, good news. ;-) |
19:35.50 |
brlcad |
i'm still here |
19:35.52 |
brlcad |
what's up? |
19:36.00 |
narnia |
brlcad, there you be. ;-) |
19:36.07 |
brlcad |
there I be |
19:36.16 |
brlcad |
and there you be |
19:36.31 |
narnia |
brlcad, i have a pdf copy of 10303-11:2004.
express language reference manual edition 2. |
19:36.36 |
brlcad |
heh |
19:36.49 |
brlcad |
I won't ask, but good to hear :) |
19:36.59 |
narnia |
brlcad, it is entirely legal. |
19:37.05 |
brlcad |
ah, even better |
19:38.18 |
narnia |
brlcad, to bring you update to date it may be
quicker and easier if you have the time to read the following
e-mail list. http://step.nasa.gov/pipermail/step-os/2005-March/date.html |
19:38.52 |
narnia |
brlcad, there are only 16 msgs. |
19:38.57 |
brlcad |
mkay |
19:39.27 |
narnia |
brlcad, the important msg is http://step.nasa.gov/pipermail/step-os/2005-March/000139.html |
19:40.00 |
narnia |
brlcad, perhaps you may obtain a legal copy
also. ;-) |
19:40.57 |
narnia |
brlcad, i am comparing the -11:ed2 to nist
express lib. |
19:42.05 |
narnia |
brlcad, i figure 5 days to get nist express
lib updated. a couple days of testing. then perhaps have the folks
on step-os test it. |
19:42.22 |
narnia |
brlcad, the part 21 parser is going
okay. |
19:44.47 |
narnia |
brlcad, know anyone knowledgable in step-nc?
step-nc is yet another iso standard. in other words obscenely
expensive. ;-) |
19:46.22 |
narnia |
brlcad, i am also working on, for my own use,
a couple perl scripts to help with the work. |
19:49.16 |
brlcad |
that's pretty cool, hehe |
19:49.20 |
narnia |
brlcad, i am toying with the idea to write a
perl script that would take an express file and create an xfig
document from it. |
19:49.34 |
narnia |
brlcad, which part is pretty cool? |
19:50.18 |
narnia |
brlcad, i take it you have read the step-os
e-mail list. |
19:51.11 |
narnia |
brlcad, any thoughts on the suggestion to
implement ap210 since it covers most other aps? |
19:54.02 |
brlcad |
give me a second |
19:54.04 |
narnia |
brlcad, sorry, just re-read that msg. ap203
covers most of the other aps. the person would like the brl-cad to
support the gemometry portions of ap210. |
19:54.17 |
narnia |
brlcad, times up. ^_^ |
19:55.05 |
narnia |
brlcad, ;-) i am joking. pulling your chain.
pulling your leg. having some fun. etc. |
20:27.11 |
brlcad |
that's about a second, right? :) |
20:40.52 |
narnia |
brlcad, sorry was watching fosset land in
kansas. he made it sole around the world non-stop. |
20:41.19 |
brlcad |
not a problem, just reading more of that
list |
20:41.52 |
brlcad |
wonder if ap203/214 would similarly qualify as
"iso 10303 support activity" :) |
20:42.23 |
narnia |
brlcad, good question. |
20:42.56 |
brlcad |
so the take seems to be that libexpress as
received from nist is 1994 compliant but not 2004 |
20:43.30 |
narnia |
brlcad, yes. |
20:44.10 |
narnia |
brlcad, i figure 5 days to get -11:2004
compliant. |
20:47.10 |
narnia |
brlcad, altering the yacc and lex files to
keep express ed1 and add epxress ed2 so both will work is time
consuming. |
20:47.33 |
narnia |
brlcad, did you happen to read my intro
msg? |
20:49.09 |
brlcad |
yes, I read the whole thread |
20:49.50 |
brlcad |
Craig's name is rather familiar too |
20:50.11 |
brlcad |
probably just from exp-engine though |
20:50.44 |
narnia |
brlcad, any comments on my intro? i think i
covered what our goals are. |
20:51.10 |
brlcad |
No, looked good |
20:51.13 |
brlcad |
well put |
20:51.52 |
narnia |
brlcad, basically, the 'kiss' philosophy.
;-) |
20:52.19 |
narnia |
brlcad, as in 'straight c, yacc, and
lex' |
20:53.08 |
narnia |
brlcad, at some point we will need to create a
'map' from express/step to brl-cad database. |
20:53.39 |
brlcad |
I'm a bit surprised Steve posted, but no
matter.. we're now one step closer |
20:53.46 |
narnia |
brlcad, need to search for some gnu gpl or
public domain brep to csg routines. |
20:54.12 |
narnia |
brlcad, no pun intended i am sure.
;-) |
20:54.24 |
narnia |
brlcad, do you know steve? |
20:54.32 |
brlcad |
actually that's one of the primitives that
just needs to be added as a full-fledged primitive |
20:54.57 |
narnia |
brlcad, ah. |
20:54.58 |
brlcad |
depending on which implementation of brep
you're referring to of course |
20:55.16 |
brlcad |
we already do polygonalized brep |
20:55.21 |
brlcad |
we don't do spline |
20:55.57 |
brlcad |
and that's mainly just because the modeler
needs a slew of changes to support them |
20:56.08 |
brlcad |
(like a new modeler) ;) |
20:56.39 |
narnia |
brlcad, you should have that done in a day ro
two then. ;-) |
20:57.41 |
brlcad |
heh |
20:58.08 |
brlcad |
knowing exactly what I need to do doesn't make
it any easier :) |
20:58.33 |
narnia |
brlcad, on a serious note, at some point in
the distant future spline brep will be supported. |
21:00.28 |
jano |
buckyballs! |
21:01.00 |
brlcad |
narnia: most definitely |
21:05.57 |
brlcad |
narnia: adding new primitives is only
generally difficult in one aspect -- the ray-intersection
test |
21:06.31 |
brlcad |
i've been meaning to write a paper on just how
to do that, having written two new primitives myself |
21:08.15 |
brlcad |
i'd have to pull up some research papers on
implicitly defined spline computations, but I suspect what will be
most problematic is the root solver |
21:08.48 |
narnia |
brlcad, umm. |
21:08.52 |
brlcad |
brl-cad's current root solver is one that
favors speed over most other qualities because the primitives that
use it are _very_ well behaved |
21:09.02 |
narnia |
jana, stickybuns. |
21:09.14 |
brlcad |
a generic spline primitive would not
necessarily be so well behaved |
21:09.16 |
narnia |
jano, as in pastry. |
21:09.44 |
narnia |
brlcad, agreed. |
21:10.23 |
brlcad |
There are lots of readily available quadratic
root solvers in abundance though .. just need to test them
out |
21:10.25 |
narnia |
my typing sucks today. |
21:11.15 |
narnia |
brlcad, will you be around this
evening? |
21:11.22 |
brlcad |
should be |
21:12.10 |
narnia |
narnia, okay. i really need to go soak my left
arm. i will be back this evening. |
21:13.00 |
narnia |
brlcad, today has been a good day. |
21:13.34 |
brlcad |
indeed! |
21:13.43 |
brlcad |
nice job on the list |
21:13.50 |
brlcad |
I wasn't even aware of that list until
now |
21:17.27 |
jano |
soak your left arm |
21:17.34 |
narnia |
brlcad, thank you. i found it yesterday.
figured it was worth a shot. |
21:17.44 |
jano |
that's just the most random goodbye statement
I've seen |
21:18.10 |
jano |
:D |
21:18.17 |
narnia |
jano, i would but tom, the new puppy, needs
someone to watch him. |
21:19.02 |
narnia |
jano, i am the official puppy
watcher. |
23:52.58 |
Azlan |
Then mavy its easyer compileing on linux for
windows?? Possible? |