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dho |
Is it possible to open autocad dwg files with
brlcad? |
15:24.49 |
EricWilhelm |
dho, not exactly |
15:24.53 |
EricWilhelm |
(yet) |
15:25.18 |
EricWilhelm |
there's a dxf converter, but nothing for
dwg |
15:25.35 |
EricWilhelm |
what kind of files do you have? (surfaces?
wireframe? solids?) |
15:27.03 |
dho |
Just some 2D stuff. I don't know anything
about CAD, just taking a look at some stuff my uncle has. |
15:27.12 |
dho |
I got the things exported to dxf, so that's a
first step I guess :) |
15:28.04 |
EricWilhelm |
there's a dxf-g program |
15:28.08 |
EricWilhelm |
man dxf-g |
15:28.38 |
EricWilhelm |
The file.dxf file is expected to be |
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<PROTECTED> |
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15:30.33 |
dho |
Thanks |
15:30.37 |
EricWilhelm |
I would like to have some preliminary dwg
support in the uber-converter by about July. |
15:30.51 |
dho |
Another thing; I'm having an issue with MGED
that when I try to start it, it says `backgrounding, please wait\n
dm-ogl: Can't make display lists for font.' |
15:31.00 |
dho |
After that I never see anything |
15:31.14 |
EricWilhelm |
Not sure what it will take to get from there
to brlcad, but at least it would give you dwg->dxf on the
command-line. |
15:32.03 |
EricWilhelm |
hmm. that's a question for one of the other
guys (who are more involved in brlcad than I am.) |
15:32.23 |
dho |
Ok; I'll stick around. Thanks :) |
15:32.36 |
EricWilhelm |
what os are you running |
15:34.08 |
dho |
FreeBSD |
15:41.14 |
EricWilhelm |
dho, I see (in my logs) that someone else had
the same trouble with freebsd before, but haven't found what solved
it yet |
15:41.26 |
EricWilhelm |
brlcad, do you work sundays? |
15:44.51 |
EricWilhelm |
dho, maybe try this: |
15:45.22 |
EricWilhelm |
Jan 21 02:56:56 <tetesuro> Oh, I
got the gui up |
15:45.23 |
EricWilhelm |
Jan 21 02:57:06 <tetesuro> mged -n
name.g |
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EricWilhelm |
Jan 21 02:57:09 <tetesuro> attach
X |
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EricWilhelm |
Jan 21 02:57:12 <corbanj>
cool... |
15:45.23 |
EricWilhelm |
Jan 21 02:57:20 <brlcad> ahh, the
old X interface |
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EricWilhelm |
Jan 21 02:57:27 <tetesuro>
right |
15:46.11 |
EricWilhelm |
dho, I guess you have an opengl problem, but
it looks like you should be able to run on a straight X
gui. |
15:46.28 |
dho |
aha -n! |
15:47.08 |
dho |
thanks |
15:47.59 |
EricWilhelm |
you might still want to hang around and ask
brlcad if the ogl issue ever got solved in that case |
15:48.34 |
dho |
Will do :) |
16:04.26 |
brlcad |
EricWilhelm: depends how you define work -- I
work on brl-cad and am here in the # pretty much every
day |
16:06.02 |
brlcad |
dho: there was a fix made to test the font
display list creation, but there's probably more that needs to be
done. the "fix" being made now is to not make the opengl interface
the default (there are several to choose from all pretty much
functionally equivalent) |
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narnia |
brlcad, given that i do not have part23 to
look at my next question may be mute when we are able to read part
23. how close should part 23 and part 24 be? |
18:56.55 |
brlcad |
what do you mean? |
18:57.08 |
brlcad |
how close are the api hooks? |
18:57.41 |
brlcad |
i suspect relatively similar.. but..
?? |
19:19.04 |
narnia |
brlcad, not have part23 i can only go by the
nist scl source. |
19:19.30 |
brlcad |
but what does part23 matter? |
19:19.51 |
narnia |
brlcad, part23 is the c++ language
bindings |
19:20.04 |
brlcad |
i know.. that's why I'm wondering why it
matters |
19:20.37 |
brlcad |
we have the c lang bindings .. only need one
binding ;) |
19:20.39 |
narnia |
brlcad, okay, for right now is does not
matter. |
19:22.36 |
narnia |
brlcad, perhaps the 10303 parts should be a
sub-project of brl-cad. the 10303 parts should be standalone
libraries. |
19:23.46 |
narnia |
brlcad, a 'nice to have' would be both part 23
and part 24. i agree for brl-cad part 24 is only needed. |
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22:50.21 |
EricWilhelm |
brlcad, have you seen the scons build
system? |
22:52.44 |
brlcad |
yes I have |
22:53.41 |
brlcad |
it's nice, though lacking a bit of
maturity |
22:53.47 |
EricWilhelm |
thought about migrating to it? The docs at
least have some interesting things to say about m4, etc. |
22:54.09 |
EricWilhelm |
I haven't really learned autoconf, and was
thinking maybe I wouldn't need to. |
22:54.13 |
brlcad |
yes, I have .. I'm interested, but it's a
_lot_ of work no matter how it's cut |
22:54.34 |
brlcad |
it's conceptually very much a step up from the
gnu build system |
22:54.35 |
EricWilhelm |
of course, I haven't left my happy little perl
development environment, so maybe moot :-) |
22:55.12 |
brlcad |
the main difference is that the gnu build
system is immensely more developed, mature, and familiar to folks
than scons |
22:55.30 |
brlcad |
with all it's warts, it is what everyone
mostly uses |
22:55.41 |
EricWilhelm |
I have been looking at setting up a nightly
build system for my subversion repository, so scons, Module::Build,
and similar stuff keeps coming up on google. |
22:56.04 |
brlcad |
that being said, I'd drop it in a heartbeat if
scons was working on the entire build system with at least as much
as we already have completed |
22:57.24 |
EricWilhelm |
scons definitely seems more hackable, which is
part of why I'm asking. I'll put a few more things on my "to read"
list. |
22:58.02 |
brlcad |
hmm.. hackable isn't a downside of the gbs ..
you can write tests for just about anything |
22:58.33 |
brlcad |
the pain is if you actually have to write
tests for _everything_ .. that's a lot of work and a codebase in
itself with spagetti logic that ends up needing to be
maintained |
22:58.33 |
EricWilhelm |
how about 'make live-install' ? |
22:58.43 |
brlcad |
make live-install? |
22:59.26 |
EricWilhelm |
I'm still working on how it would make sense
in a compiled project, but that's my primary methodology in
interpreted code. |
22:59.59 |
EricWilhelm |
I suppose it would still have application in
brl-cad, blender, etc where you have scripted plugins and add-ons
(e.g. tcl or python) |
23:00.49 |
EricWilhelm |
http://scratchcomputing.com/developers/live-install.html |
23:02.34 |
EricWilhelm |
brlcad, partly I'm trying to make drive-by
hacking easier. I suppose in a compiled project, this would
essentially mean that you would only have to 'make' the code to
have your changes available. |
23:02.52 |
brlcad |
no offense, but that write-up didn't really
tell me much :) |
23:03.04 |
brlcad |
it told me what it's not to a little
extent |
23:03.13 |
EricWilhelm |
"make && make test && make
install" is great and all, but somewhat tedious |
23:03.17 |
EricWilhelm |
yeah. |
23:03.56 |
EricWilhelm |
I need to work on that. Did you mean the web
page or the how_this_works.txt file? |
23:05.10 |
brlcad |
yes :) |
23:05.38 |
EricWilhelm |
ok. sorry, I'll work on that some more before
I bring it up again. |
23:06.32 |
EricWilhelm |
like I said, I'm still not sure what it does
for compiled code. It's a work in progress. |
23:06.41 |
brlcad |
no, I mean.. what's the basic idea? make a
sandbox to install/run in? |
23:06.58 |
EricWilhelm |
no, it's about the opposite of a
sandbox. |
23:07.36 |
EricWilhelm |
It allows you to run bleeding edge code as if
you had installed it with 'make install'. |
23:08.02 |
EricWilhelm |
For interpreted code, that means "straight out
of a CVS/SVN checkout." |
23:08.48 |
brlcad |
sounds like gentoo for interpreted code
;) |
23:08.56 |
EricWilhelm |
so, it's a way of getting faster
reflection. |
23:09.09 |
EricWilhelm |
yeah, maybe a bit like that. |
23:09.45 |
EricWilhelm |
hmm. it would be great if it would play
nicely with package managers eh? |
23:10.07 |
EricWilhelm |
but, that's an issue with perl libraries in
general I guess (at least from what I've seen on debian) |
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