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01:39.15 *** join/#brlcad Twingy (~justin@pcp0011643033pcs.aberdn01.md.comcast.net)
05:21.00 brlcad he's in hiding
05:22.13 brlcad so the guy working on the debian package is suggesting some organizational changes at least for that platform
05:22.50 brlcad I'm inclined to allow an optional configuration option to specify those alternate paths
05:23.16 brlcad e.g. to install libs into $prefix/lib/brlcad/ and headers into $prefix/include/brlcad/
05:26.38 narnia that would break the past de facto standard though.
05:27.02 brlcad that's why I'm just inclined to make it allowed, not make it default
05:27.27 narnia ah, understand
05:27.51 narnia sounds like a good compromise.
05:27.55 brlcad it's not unprecedented.. it's what X11 does and they parallel brl-cad complexities in many ways
05:29.39 narnia true, but x11 is going through major pains at the moment. xfree86 is pretty much done with. freedesktop.org is becoming the de facto install.
05:30.02 brlcad x11 has taken over xfree86
05:30.37 brlcad er, x.org to be more specific
05:30.43 narnia yes.
05:31.09 narnia that whole license fiasco.
05:32.08 brlcad yeah
05:32.21 brlcad that was a huge blunder on the xfree maintainer's part
05:33.07 brlcad that's the risk of holding strong inflexible positions as a maintainer..
05:34.54 narnia david's ego got in the way.
05:36.04 brlcad yep, and pride
05:36.11 narnia definitely.
05:39.48 narnia btw, who is jano? i have no idea who he is, but i find i like him.
05:41.07 brlcad heh
05:41.54 brlcad he's an old friend
05:42.16 brlcad used to be a modeler, but not with brl-cad
05:43.33 brlcad I usually end up meeting up with him at/after siggraph every year
05:46.57 narnia i like his humor.
05:47.31 narnia he did however leave me locked in the cage of doom. ;-)
05:47.52 brlcad you're doomed!
05:48.33 narnia oh no!
05:49.10 brlcad heh, yes he's full of some sort of humor :)
05:49.28 brlcad and he usually hangs out here to release stress and fool around ;)
05:49.40 narnia good reasons.
05:50.08 narnia did you ever see my msg from last night?
05:50.17 narnia private msg.
05:50.25 brlcad yes, I did
05:50.30 narnia you were talking with EricWilhelm .
05:50.59 brlcad indeed
05:51.00 narnia i was trying to follow the conversation.
05:54.26 narnia hang on need to put some medicine gradpa cat;s chin
06:17.19 brlcad http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/02/1951204&tid=156&tid=108&tid=6&tid=7
07:19.48 CIA-8 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: duplicate strerror and check for strerror_r
07:25.38 CIA-8 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libpkg/pkg.c: potentially requires sys_errlist, so need optional extern declarations.
07:46.53 CIA-8 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libfb/if_disk.c: potentially need both sys/file.h and fcntl.h so separate them (solaris fix)
08:03.11 narnia i thought sys_errlist was deprecated in favour of strerror()?
10:11.29 *** join/#brlcad Pimpinella (~frank@p50820E10.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
13:43.17 brlcad it is
13:43.35 brlcad but when strerror is not available, it falls back to errlist
13:43.51 brlcad and this is such a system that did not have strerror
16:25.24 narnia ah, understand.
21:28.05 narnia brlcad, does brl-cad handle unicode (utf-8)? how well does brl-cad handle unicode (utf-8)? the reason i ask is that part11 and part24 both allow unicode.
22:34.35 brlcad I'm actually not sure how well it'll stash/reload utf-8 from the geometry format or internal representations
22:35.47 brlcad the actual converter support is in the domain of the converter's front in, so the only real issue is how utf-8 is handled internal to the .g format
22:36.16 brlcad it shouldn't be too hard if it doesn't work quite right as the file format itself simply records a length and is followed by an array of bytes
22:36.28 brlcad translation to utf-16 should be even possible
22:37.11 brlcad little chance mged would handle it without modification, though as I'd bet it'll choke on utf-*
23:00.29 narnia brlcad, okay thank you.

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