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| 01:12.57 | CIA-3 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/ (README configure.ac NEWS): let the fun begin, bump to 7.2.5 now that 7.2.4 is tagged |
| 01:21.59 | *** topic/#brlcad by learner -> http://brlcad.org/ || BRL-CAD is now Open Source! || Screenshots: http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=105292 || http://brlcad.org/images/mged.jpg || Release 7.2.4 is finally now posted (20050511) | |
| 02:02.15 | Twingy | http://graphics.stanford.edu/papers/dual_photography/ |
| 02:42.42 | learner | mac os x dmg is posted |
| 02:43.45 | ``Erik | fbsd/x86 tbz, too :) |
| 02:44.58 | learner | so it is.. ;) |
| 02:45.13 | learner | set the date to may 11 on the file |
| 02:46.15 | learner | it goes by gmt by default |
| 02:46.43 | learner | usually just match the source unless the files really are uploaded a day or two later |
| 02:48.20 | ``Erik | erm, it's been the 12th in gmt for, like, 4 hours now... not the 10th... :) |
| 02:49.30 | ``Erik | (sorry, 3 hours, not 4) |
| 02:54.51 | learner | i know, that's what i mean.. i set it to match the Source release (which was on the 11th gmt) |
| 02:55.29 | learner | otherwise it just pokes questions like yours.. |
| 02:55.54 | learner | i can hear it already.. "why did you wait a day to upload the freebsd files?! they should have been first!" |
| 02:56.06 | learner | s/freebsd/<insert OS of choice>/ |
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| 02:58.07 | CIA-3 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: fixed compilation support for Solaris.. Sparc 64 is improved, but probably needs more testing still |
| 02:59.33 | learner | eww.. sleep already?! |
| 03:38.20 | narnia | learner, any first hand experience with color laser printers? |
| 03:39.24 | narnia | learner, any thoughts on this one: http://www.office.xerox.com/perl-bin/product.pl?product=8400&page=modl 8400/dp |
| 04:31.43 | learner | yep |
| 04:34.01 | learner | not a bad printer |
| 04:34.10 | learner | nice price actually |
| 04:35.18 | learner | have to be careful on the color toner expenses |
| 04:36.39 | narnia | learner, this one is solid ink. (think crayons) |
| 04:36.45 | learner | odd, though.. phaser used to be the brand of a really good waxjet company |
| 04:36.52 | learner | wonder if they bought them out |
| 04:37.34 | narnia | these are the former tektronics printers. |
| 04:37.34 | learner | ahh, crayons.. then it is them |
| 04:38.00 | learner | that's a thermal waxjet, not laser |
| 04:38.59 | learner | those are/were good printers, i used a tek for years |
| 04:39.55 | learner | it's rather high quality printing if it's related to the printing you need to do |
| 04:40.01 | learner | you're going to burn through the black |
| 04:40.42 | narnia | this is true |
| 04:40.55 | narnia | my middle daughter has offered to purchase it. |
| 04:40.59 | learner | and those "crayons" are definately not cheap |
| 04:41.25 | learner | you could get a faster high-volume color hp for about the same probably |
| 04:42.08 | learner | http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF02a/18972-236251-236268.html |
| 04:42.13 | narnia | Genuine Xerox Solid Ink 8400 Black (Six Sticks)6,800 pages$99.99 |
| 04:42.29 | learner | 1200 for double the volume and rate |
| 04:45.09 | learner | the 4600 series is relatively "big", but it is nice and fast, decent quality printing |
| 04:45.48 | narnia | Price: $155.99*HP Color LaserJet C9720A Black Print Cartridge (C9720A) |
| 04:45.50 | narnia | Average cartridge yield: approx. 9,000* pages (black) |
| 04:46.04 | learner | personally, given the choice for my own printing, I'd go with the wax jet just because the printing process is so much better (even if significantly lower resolution and slower) |
| 04:46.15 | learner | but then I don't have thousands of pages to print |
| 04:46.45 | narnia | ~155.99x3 |
| 04:46.53 | narnia | ~155.99*3 |
| 04:46.54 | ibot | 467.97 |
| 04:47.21 | narnia | ~99.00*30000/6800 |
| 04:47.22 | ibot | 436.764705882353 |
| 04:47.51 | narnia | roughly the same cost for black toner or crayon. |
| 04:48.01 | learner | roughly |
| 04:48.26 | learner | oh, they increased their ppms |
| 04:48.26 | narnia | ~155.99*30000/9000 |
| 04:48.27 | ibot | 519.966666666667 |
| 04:48.50 | learner | that rebate gives it the edge |
| 04:49.38 | learner | heck, go with the phaser :) |
| 04:49.40 | learner | i'm jealous |
| 04:49.40 | narnia | the crayon printout are better looking |
| 04:50.15 | narnia | learner, you want to help me print out the 30000+ pages? |
| 04:50.23 | learner | hmm.. i wonder what their 2400 finepoint technology is like for photography |
| 04:50.38 | learner | you send me the printer to keep, and I'll print em for ya, sure ;) |
| 04:51.53 | learner | heck, with os x 10.4 you can use the new automator to convert every email to a pdf and feed it to the printer in a massive unattended batch job |
| 04:51.54 | narnia | this is really stupid printing out the 30000+ pages. there is no way they will read any significant part of it. |
| 04:53.05 | learner | if it was 30k mime encoded gibbrish, that won't be more than a couple thousand rendered most likely |
| 04:54.15 | learner | not that it's any better.. but will save more of the pretty phaser's life |
| 04:57.13 | narnia | this is what is mainly on the cdrom. my job search is rather large. http://strauss.blauedonau.com/jobs-09aug2004.dir/ |
| 05:08.41 | narnia | this is exactly what is on the cdrom. the opposing lawyers printed out the html files. |
| 05:09.05 | learner | interesting |
| 05:09.51 | narnia | what is interesting? |
| 05:10.13 | learner | just all the organization that you have going there |
| 05:10.38 | learner | so it's probably more like 25000 pages after filtering out html header/footerness |
| 05:10.41 | narnia | well i thought it would make sense to the lawyers and the judge. |
| 05:12.29 | learner | i'll still be jealous if you get the phaser |
| 05:12.42 | learner | digital photography and printing are a big hobby |
| 05:13.24 | learner | i've yet to dish out for a high-quality printer.. i send high res images across the country and have them print on the big bad boys |
| 05:14.49 | learner | ~200.0 / 6000.0 |
| 05:14.51 | ibot | 0.033333333333 |
| 05:15.24 | learner | ~20.0 / 0.03 |
| 05:15.25 | ibot | 666.666666666667 |
| 05:16.02 | learner | heh, so I'm paying about a 700% markup for the sake of just a little better quality .. :) |
| 05:21.28 | narnia | you understand the cdrom so why do the opposing lawyers have such a hard time with it? |
| 05:28.02 | learner | because it's their job to make you look unreasonable at the expense of potentially looking stupid |
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| 12:34.18 | CIA-3 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/sh/vers.sh: solaris shell annoyingly will not evaluate multiple connected statements as one (i.e. doesn't know about the variables set until the eval is done), so evaluate them one line at a time. |
| 12:34.24 | learner | d_rossberg, it's not just anonymous -- it's everyone having trouble with cvs. |
| 12:34.42 | learner | took me quite a while to get that last commit in |
| 12:35.02 | learner | kept giving me the same error as you -- if you just keep retrying, it should eventually update |
| 12:35.57 | learner | blah ; while [ $? != 0 ] ; do sleep 10 ; cvs update ; done |
| 12:35.59 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:45.47 | d_rossberg | are you able to access sourceforge.net via https? |
| 12:46.24 | learner | yes |
| 12:46.25 | learner | https://sourceforge.net/projects/brlcad |
| 12:47.24 | d_rossberg | his works for me too |
| 12:47.38 | d_rossberg | but try this: https://sourceforge.net/account/login.php |
| 12:48.19 | d_rossberg | (it's the "Login via SSL" link) |
| 12:48.55 | learner | it works for me |
| 12:49.30 | learner | you don't have an account yet, though right? |
| 12:49.41 | learner | you can't "Login via SSL" without an account |
| 12:49.53 | learner | follow the other link for creating a new account |
| 12:50.36 | learner | https://sourceforge.net/account/newuser_emailverify.php |
| 12:51.06 | d_rossberg | funny thing, now it works for me too, i got time outs before |
| 12:51.13 | learner | heh :) |
| 12:53.02 | learner | feel free to get creative with the account name! :) |
| 12:53.11 | d_rossberg | I've already an account, guess what's my name? |
| 12:53.26 | learner | :) |
| 12:53.49 | learner | yep, d_rossberg :0 |
| 12:54.42 | d_rossberg | btw, if you search for rossberg at sf.net, you will find references to references on my phd thesis |
| 12:55.54 | d_rossberg | it was a nice time, 10 years ago |
| 12:57.48 | learner | you're added now, so you should be able to check out non-anonymously now and get updates in real time |
| 12:58.10 | learner | cvs -d d_rossberg@cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/brlcad co -P brlcad |
| 12:58.43 | learner | you should be able to upload an ssh key to sf.net under your user profile page too, and you won't have to keep entering in a password |
| 13:00.10 | learner | you also have commit access, if you need to fix something or want to work on something |
| 13:01.45 | d_rossberg | i'll test the account today; maybe i've to make some changes for the proxy server |
| 13:04.09 | d_rossberg | but i'll wait with the commits |
| 13:04.21 | d_rossberg | next week i'm on holiday |
| 13:06.52 | learner | no problem either way |
| 13:07.11 | d_rossberg | the kindergarten closes for a week, and my wife's work is more important then mine (at least at the moment) |
| 13:17.35 | d_rossberg | the protocol for non-anonymously check out is ssh, isn't it? |
| 13:39.18 | learner | yes |
| 13:39.39 | learner | ahh, heh, so maybe a problem for you at work.. |
| 13:48.14 | d_rossberg | yes, it's a very secure place here :-} |
| 14:09.04 | brlcad | you can be very secure and still allow ssh, but it does require more diligence on tracking vulnerability reports |
| 14:16.32 | d_rossberg | we have a department to do this |
| 14:16.48 | d_rossberg | i'll ask them, but after my holiday |
| 14:17.16 | d_rossberg | till then i'll try it from home |
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| 17:33.49 | clock- | Hello |
| 17:38.52 | brlcad | hello clock- |
| 17:42.44 | clock- | I have just installed brlcad as I am searching for a CAD for mechanics |
| 17:42.46 | clock- | for Ronja project |
| 17:42.50 | clock- | http://ronja.twibright.com |
| 17:43.17 | clock- | I have just installed it and would like to know if it's possible to get some example 3D file with easy instruction how to display it on screen. |
| 17:43.32 | clock- | I tried to convert from DXF but the dxf-g converter crashed on seemingly internal error. |
| 17:44.24 | brlcad | interesting project |
| 17:45.07 | clock- | The tool has to be free software, because project philosophy requires it (it's User Controlled Technology, analogue of free software in hardware realm) |
| 17:45.19 | brlcad | sorry, was reading your site.. :) |
| 17:45.37 | brlcad | yeah, there are example files in the source distribution in the db/ directory |
| 17:46.29 | clock- | how became brlcad free software? Did it ARL itself or did someone write them and asked for all the sources and documents and published them? |
| 17:46.43 | brlcad | i'd be interested in getting your dxf to debug the problem |
| 17:46.51 | brlcad | perhaps you could post it to our bug tracker? |
| 17:46.52 | clock- | cool :) |
| 17:48.12 | clock- | Yeah, I got it. |
| 17:48.18 | clock- | But it's not published yet :( |
| 17:48.29 | clock- | It says like: |
| 17:48.31 | clock- | ERROR: INSERT references non-existent block (DICTIONARYVAR) |
| 17:48.31 | clock- | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.31 | clock- | *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x080807a8 *** |
| 17:50.01 | brlcad | heh, people have asked for brl-cad under the foia and gotten rejected over the years .. the foia doesn't apply to all codes |
| 17:50.11 | brlcad | ARL supported us going open source |
| 17:50.26 | brlcad | it just took 5 years of my convincing |
| 17:50.32 | clock- | freedom of information act? |
| 17:50.37 | brlcad | yes |
| 17:50.52 | clock- | Heh, cool work! :) |
| 17:51.36 | clock- | brl-cad is surprisingly similar to GRASS GIS - wasn't it like this, too, under foia? |
| 17:51.37 | brlcad | i'm happy :) |
| 17:51.54 | clock- | I can't wait until I display the cool brlcad logo here: |
| 17:52.09 | clock- | http://ronja.twibright.com/web.php |
| 17:52.21 | brlcad | grass is slightly similar.. they took the much easier legal route -- they just dropped it into the public domain |
| 17:52.56 | brlcad | the user community (schools in europe, iirc) then picked it up and claimed copyright, assigned gpl, etc |
| 17:53.48 | brlcad | that is a lot of logos :) |
| 17:53.48 | clock- | Ah, seems like I have reproduced the problem on a publicly available DXF! |
| 17:54.17 | brlcad | yeah, I've seen that exact error before.. just haven't found a good test case yet for debugging it |
| 17:54.29 | brlcad | maybe even the same publicly available dxf.. :) |
| 17:55.12 | clock- | It's http://ronja.twibright.com/drawings/hood.dxf |
| 17:55.24 | clock- | And the critical command was dxf-g hood.dxf hood.g |
| 17:55.43 | clock- | Is this report enough or would you like me to enter into bug tracking system? |
| 17:56.13 | clock- | Anyway, US army and governments seems to be pretty useful - DARPANET alias Internet, GRASS, BRLCAD,... |
| 17:56.56 | brlcad | I'd prefer the bug tracker just so the other devs know about it too, but I do have the file now if you don't feel like bothering with it |
| 17:56.59 | brlcad | thanks |
| 17:58.08 | brlcad | yeah, BRL-CAD is the only open source solid modeler at this point, so I'm hoping we can continue to pick up more interest and get more people involved with the project |
| 17:59.21 | clock- | I think Ronja could be a usable display case for BRLCAD. I got 91 installations worldwide: |
| 17:59.42 | clock- | http://ronja.twibright.com/installations.php |
| 18:00.08 | clock- | As BRLCAD was released just recently (half a year ago?), I expect to be one of the first project to adopt it, if it happens. |
| 18:00.18 | clock- | Do you think BRLCAD is usable for a project like this? |
| 18:00.39 | clock- | I actually wanted to emply it about 3 months ago, but didn't have time to investigaste :) |
| 18:02.43 | brlcad | BRL-CAD's been around/released for about 20 years.. distributed in source code form even (albeit complicated process to get it).. it's been open source since December 21 |
| 18:03.03 | brlcad | what did you have in mind for how BRL-CAD would be usable? |
| 18:03.49 | clock- | If the bug level is low enough to not present obstacle in work. |
| 18:04.25 | clock- | The constant mentions about army, test grounds, report forms and ballistic research laboratory are simply cool. |
| 18:05.07 | clock- | That's like "Ronja is now going to be real star wars. Please send billions of dollars in gifts, we are going to make a reeeeaaaaal good connectivity party ;-) " |
| 18:05.41 | brlcad | the bug level is very low for most everything that we have to deal with.. like I said, it's a code that's been evolving for a very long time -- very mature code/project |
| 18:05.41 | clock- | Survivability/Lethality. Even better, in context of (potentially laser) optical datalink ;-) |
| 18:05.55 | clock- | As old as I am :) 1979, too. |
| 18:06.00 | brlcad | there is on-going development, though, so some areas will be more/less developed than others |
| 18:06.22 | clock- | The documentation seems to be written with real care - exceptional... |
| 18:06.41 | clock- | Oh - lessons about MGED - shit - cool :) |
| 18:06.45 | brlcad | brl-cad wasn't designed for drafting needs (blueprints), so if that's specifically what you need, there might be better tools |
| 18:07.09 | brlcad | but for actual modeling, and visualizations, brl-cad will do that quite nicely |
| 18:07.14 | clock- | DO you mean 2D blueprints with all those dimensions? |
| 18:07.20 | clock- | I am using QCAD for it. |
| 18:07.47 | clock- | Wish Linux kernel folks had the same approach to documentation as BRLCAD has... |
| 18:11.55 | brlcad | sorry, still reading your site.. hold on a sec.. :) |
| 18:14.25 | clock- | Found a bug in mged intro: Create -> Make solid doesn't exist. Should be Ellipsiond instead of Make solid probably. |
| 18:15.44 | brlcad | ~change 703 CZK to USD |
| 18:16.01 | clock- | http://brlcad.org/build_CVS.html deadlinks to http://brlcad.org/index.html ("back to main page") |
| 18:21.10 | brlcad | questions questions .. :) |
| 18:21.24 | brlcad | how in the world is the response times on the photoreceptors that fast? |
| 18:21.29 | brlcad | or are they really just that fast? |
| 18:21.52 | clock- | The response time of SFH203 photoreceptor is about 5ns. |
| 18:22.14 | brlcad | is it sending out data already encoded, like different frequencies are different values? |
| 18:22.21 | clock- | Fiber optics receptors for 10Gbps, 40Gbps etc. speed have it under 1ns. |
| 18:22.52 | brlcad | that is just incredible |
| 18:22.55 | clock- | It's using basically the same baseband encoding as ordinary 10Mbps ethernet over twisted pair or coax. |
| 18:23.11 | clock- | Laser pointer diode can go with modulation rate up to say 1GHz. |
| 18:23.21 | clock- | This LED can go up to about 10 or 20 MHz. |
| 18:23.27 | clock- | Infra LED only to 10MHz. |
| 18:24.01 | clock- | I have entered the bug with hood.dxf |
| 18:24.13 | brlcad | okay, thanks |
| 18:24.41 | brlcad | did you make that dxf in qcad? |
| 18:25.07 | clock- | yes in qcad |
| 18:25.14 | brlcad | as for the documentation bug, it's known/fixed already.. just not reposted to pdf |
| 18:25.33 | brlcad | as you found, it's just renamed/moved |
| 18:27.00 | clock- | I have entered therefore bug #1 and #3. |
| 18:28.46 | brlcad | heh, there's some other guys at work that are interested now too |
| 18:28.53 | brlcad | i'll have to show them the site later |
| 18:32.05 | brlcad | okay, so back to your original questions... what was your questions? :) |
| 18:33.11 | brlcad | i think it could be of use, model the emitter, visualize each of the components individually in 3d |
| 18:33.18 | clock- | to load some model and display - but now I am making the radio according to tutorial. |
| 18:33.33 | brlcad | you could even simulate the transmission properties as a custom raytrace application |
| 18:33.52 | brlcad | ahh, yes.. you wanted to look at something quick |
| 18:34.03 | clock- | I want to make a 3D model how to mechanically assembly consoles etc. People get confused by descriptions like "take 3rd bolt from the right and put through rear hole of side adjacent to..." |
| 18:35.03 | brlcad | http://ftp.brlcad.org/tmp/havoc.g |
| 18:35.16 | brlcad | save that file, and open it up with mged |
| 18:35.29 | brlcad | in mged, type: e havoc |
| 18:35.39 | clock- | May I run two instances of mged simultaneously? |
| 18:35.43 | brlcad | sure |
| 18:35.47 | clock- | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden |
| 18:35.47 | clock- | 20:33:08 ERROR 403: Forbidden. |
| 18:35.52 | brlcad | ah, hold on |
| 18:36.13 | brlcad | try now |
| 18:37.46 | clock- | OK - loaded, blue view. |
| 18:37.49 | clock- | How do I display it? |
| 18:38.30 | brlcad | e havoc |
| 18:38.44 | brlcad | or if you're a mouse guy, go to Tools -> Geometry Browser |
| 18:39.12 | brlcad | and double-click the name "havoc" |
| 18:39.14 | clock- | Ah, helicopter :) |
| 18:39.26 | clock- | Is it possible to display with non-wire solid shapes? |
| 18:40.35 | brlcad | it is, couple ways |
| 18:40.55 | brlcad | in the command window, type: rt -F/dev/Xl |
| 18:41.54 | brlcad | or go to File -> Raytrace |
| 18:42.10 | brlcad | and hit the raytrace button |
| 18:43.50 | clock- | hmmm... it's slowly raytracing :) |
| 18:43.52 | brlcad | mged isn't too friendly as a "discovery interface" .. fyi |
| 18:44.09 | clock- | Is it possible to select some medium detail solid view? |
| 18:44.15 | brlcad | many call it "expert friendly" as there's lots of commands |
| 18:44.18 | clock- | yes - the same with GRASS. |
| 18:44.37 | clock- | is it using povray, or it's internal engine? |
| 18:45.13 | brlcad | heh, no povray is a dog at raytracing the same models |
| 18:45.48 | brlcad | BRL-CAD has one of the first raytracers ever written -- the first parallel one |
| 18:46.15 | brlcad | highly optimized for solid model rendering for analyses |
| 18:46.33 | brlcad | like signature analyses, multispectral imagery, penetration details, etc |
| 18:47.51 | clock- | what does mean that povray is dog? Imprecise? Or slow? |
| 18:48.04 | brlcad | slow and imprecise |
| 18:48.17 | brlcad | they do have a nice global illumination model, though |
| 18:49.26 | brlcad | to answer your question, there is an experimental mode that will draw everything shaded/solid |
| 18:49.38 | brlcad | but it's not recommended at all for something like havoc |
| 18:51.09 | clock- | I got the output image :) Nice :) Windows look like real glass :) |
| 18:51.44 | brlcad | and that's the simple defaults |
| 18:51.55 | brlcad | you can get more realistic by turning on/up some options |
| 18:52.05 | clock- | So that is it possible to use brlcad like for simulation of glass lens illuminated with point source in infinity and looking at shape and colours of the focus blot? |
| 18:53.15 | clock- | Is it possible to have wireframe with hidden invisible edges? |
| 18:53.25 | brlcad | it is, though the computations to simulate that approach that of global illumination for proper caustics |
| 18:53.32 | clock- | Or at least wireframe with lines clipped and not removed when they don't fit the window? |
| 18:54.10 | brlcad | Misc -> Z Clipping |
| 18:54.16 | brlcad | turn that off |
| 18:54.46 | brlcad | brl-cad's photon mapping will do the caustics fairly cheaply |
| 18:54.51 | brlcad | i'll see if I can find an example |
| 18:56.20 | clock- | Or at least wireframe with lines clipped and not removed when they don't fit the window? |
| 18:56.23 | brlcad | here's some more geometry examples: http://ftp.brlcad.org/db/ |
| 18:57.34 | clock- | I turned off the Z clipping and it still shows hidden edges - however something has changed. |
| 18:58.04 | brlcad | ahh, i see what you mean now i think |
| 18:58.10 | brlcad | hiding the back facing lines |
| 18:58.49 | brlcad | no, there's not really a mode for that -- if you turn on depth queing, it should get better.. stuff in the front is brighter, stuff behind will be darker |
| 18:59.07 | brlcad | Misc -> Depth Cueing |
| 18:59.20 | clock- | it's impressive anyway. |
| 18:59.37 | brlcad | there are "shift grips" that might feel more familiar to you |
| 18:59.51 | brlcad | like control+mouse drag |
| 19:00.01 | brlcad | and shift+mouse drag |
| 19:00.18 | brlcad | and control+shift+mouse drag .. etc |
| 19:01.55 | brlcad | mged is only 1 of about 400 apps that comprise brl-cad, although mged is one of the largest and few that have a gui |
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| 19:06.33 | clock- | is there a library of steel sections like U, I etc.? |
| 19:09.08 | clock- | The standard views are cool :) |
| 19:12.11 | d_rossberg | brlcad: ssh-checkout works from my home |
| 19:12.47 | brlcad | clock-: not that I can share.. |
| 19:13.14 | brlcad | there is probably a lot of really much more impressive stuff that cannot be shared. ;) |
| 19:15.02 | clock- | brlcad: are you working in arl/brl? |
| 19:16.00 | brlcad | clock-: http://db.brlcad.org/tmp/moss.png and http://db.brlcad.org/tmp/moss_edge.png the latter is "rtedge" |
| 19:17.58 | brlcad | d_rossberg: good to hear |
| 19:19.07 | d_rossberg | but it's not very fast, only ISDN |
| 19:20.47 | brlcad | it's not very fast right now regardless with all the cvs work they've been doing |
| 19:20.56 | clock- | rtedge will be good for technical drawings of assembly, I think. |
| 19:20.58 | brlcad | adding -z9 to the checkout/update line should speed it up |
| 19:21.06 | clock- | Is it possible to generate it into vector format, or only raster? |
| 19:21.57 | d_rossberg | brlcad: this is exactly my setting :-) |
| 19:22.13 | brlcad | i know rtedge only does raster, it's visualizes geometry edges via raytracing |
| 19:22.36 | clock- | aha |
| 19:22.52 | brlcad | I vaguely recall mged having something like that experimental a long time ago, but I "don't think so" |
| 19:24.18 | brlcad | d_rossberg: heh |
| 19:26.32 | clock- | Edit -> Scale doesn't exist - where is it? |
| 19:26.42 | clock- | Used in mged tutorial lesson 9 |
| 19:27.25 | brlcad | the menu changes as you progress up through the steps |
| 19:27.37 | brlcad | one of the earlier steps would have been to select the geometry for editing |
| 19:28.16 | brlcad | there's a solid/primitive edit mode and a matrix edit mode depending on what you're editing and how |
| 19:48.50 | clock- | hm, done a ball in glass box :) |
| 19:49.06 | brlcad | hehe |
| 19:51.22 | brlcad | it takes patience at first, but then one can really get efficient with it once you know the core commands/menus/etc |
| 19:51.35 | brlcad | the expert modelers are pretty darn impressive at their speed |
| 19:53.24 | clock- | is it possible to make constraints? |
| 19:53.42 | clock- | Like two boxes sharing facet, two cylinders sharing an axe |
| 19:53.51 | clock- | or putting something into intersection of something else? |
| 19:53.57 | clock- | axe -> axis |
| 19:56.08 | d_rossberg | brlcad: I'm done: 50 min |
| 19:56.44 | clock- | brlcad: thanks, have to go, have a nice time, goodbye |
| 20:35.10 | brlcad | heh |
| 20:55.10 | CIA-3 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/pro-engineer/Makefile.am: typo in the am var for echo |
| 21:21.44 | CIA-3 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/pro-engineer/mk.in: cannot use a brl-cad header without either installing first or defining HAVE_CONFIG_H, so do the latter |
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