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| 00:44.37 | Twingy | I'm contemplating the train if the new machines get here sean |
| 00:45.44 | ctjctj | The train? |
| 00:46.16 | learner | ctjctj, taking the train to siggraph |
| 00:48.10 | learner | 60 hours of comfortable travel where you can work at least a solid 10 hours every day uninterrupted for 3 days before and after the conference |
| 00:49.08 | Twingy | do they have a gym? |
| 00:49.29 | Twingy | and a shower? |
| 00:49.54 | Twingy | the shower would have to be quite tiny |
| 00:51.08 | learner | there is a shower, dunno about a gym (doubt it) |
| 00:55.29 | Twingy | ok |
| 00:55.30 | learner | a jacuzzi train car would be great |
| 00:55.33 | Twingy | then I'll run along side the train car |
| 00:55.40 | Twingy | with some jacuzzi women? |
| 00:55.46 | learner | you could do laps up and down the train |
| 00:55.48 | Twingy | I'd take a champagne room over a jacuzzi room |
| 00:56.15 | learner | you can get champagne |
| 00:57.42 | ctjctj | Where is siggraph this year? |
| 00:58.17 | Twingy | my basement |
| 00:59.01 | learner | L.A. |
| 00:59.22 | learner | next year is up in boston |
| 00:59.23 | ctjctj | Dang, that would be a wonderful bike ride. |
| 00:59.51 | learner | :) |
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| 01:18.34 | louipc | hey folks |
| 01:18.44 | learner | howdy loui |
| 01:22.19 | louipc | is there a reason the delete key doesn't work in the command window? |
| 01:26.07 | louipc | or.. rather why it doesn't delete to the right of the cursor |
| 01:32.43 | learner | as silly as it sounds, I don't think anyone has ever seriously requested that |
| 01:39.26 | learner | either that, or some technical reason related to solaris keyboards |
| 01:39.54 | ctjctj | It comes from the fact that the "delete" character use to be used interchangably with the backspace key. |
| 01:39.56 | learner | delete and backspace are often reversed character codes on some systems |
| 01:40.08 | louipc | ah hehe |
| 01:40.10 | ctjctj | I.e. ctrl-h and 0x7f were treated the same. |
| 01:40.33 | ctjctj | The reason for that was that some keyboards generated 0x08 for the backspace key and others generated 0x7f. |
| 01:40.47 | learner | it's easy enough to have it forward-delete |
| 01:41.00 | learner | if you enable vi-mode, it behaves that way |
| 01:41.39 | louipc | ah |
| 01:42.01 | louipc | I'm more familiar with the emacs keys |
| 01:42.07 | ctjctj | Part of what we have to deal with is code written 20 years ago that is still great. |
| 01:42.13 | louipc | not that I know much though hehe |
| 01:42.54 | louipc | hey I'd be glad to help you guys... probably with non programming tasks maybe the website and stuff |
| 01:43.07 | learner | help's always welcome :) |
| 01:43.09 | ctjctj | learner, it will not affect anybody until some 4 star is getting a demo in a vault and the delete key "doesn't work right" |
| 01:43.22 | louipc | what's BRL-CAD licensed under now anyways? |
| 01:44.41 | learner | louipc, it's a large code base so different portions are licensed accordingly -- for the most part, the lgpl covers the libraries; gpl covers the binariesl bsd covers the build infrastructure, regression tests, and benchmark suite |
| 01:45.12 | louipc | ah wow |
| 01:46.33 | louipc | I guess its clear in the source code what's covered by what? |
| 01:46.43 | learner | pretty much |
| 01:47.22 | learner | the bsd files have their license embedded, there's a license header on most all the sources (should be on everything) |
| 01:47.32 | learner | the COPYING file goes into a little more detail |
| 01:48.25 | learner | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/brlcad/brlcad/COPYING?rev=HEAD |
| 01:50.45 | learner | for what it's worth, the delete key binding only affects the tclified mged -- it's unbound in classic mode |
| 01:51.35 | learner | so I'd bet it's mainly because bob is a solaris keyboard nut where the keys are reversed |
| 01:53.15 | learner | oh, it's getting it |
| 01:53.28 | learner | inserting gibbrish when you press delete |
| 01:53.34 | learner | ~7 or somesuch |
| 01:54.12 | learner | ahh, it's inserting 3~ |
| 02:31.08 | learner | ahh, I think the reason it's set to backwards delete is far more simple than presumed -- the default mged keybinding mode is emacs bindings.. the default binding for delete in emacs is a backwards delete |
| 02:31.51 | learner | aside from that probably being one of the first bindings users override when they start making their own .emacs.. :) |
| 02:33.07 | learner | good to know, not that it really matters much |
| 02:40.33 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/mged/text.tcl: comment on the fact that delete being bound to backwards delete by default matches default emacs bindings |
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| 04:38.40 | learner | howdy Maloeran |
| 04:39.42 | Maloeran | Greetings |
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| 04:45.34 | louipc | har har I made a goblet |
| 04:49.45 | learner | heh |
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| 15:18.49 | locmon | how's it going? |
| 15:21.06 | locmon | this CGI client is pretty good |
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| 15:27.53 | brlcad | for some browsers that client is workable, for others it's a pain |
| 15:28.08 | brlcad | better to use a real irc client for prolonged use ;) |
| 15:28.19 | louipc | yeah definitely |
| 15:28.36 | louipc | for some reason I can't connect with a real one at school here |
| 15:29.48 | brlcad | ahh, probably blocked |
| 15:30.00 | brlcad | you'd have to ssh to somewhere not blocked |
| 15:52.36 | louipc | know any places where I could get free ssh access? |
| 16:03.49 | louipc | take it easy folks |
| 17:47.22 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/BUGS: photon map cache file doesn't work (seems to crash rt on use) |
| 19:16.57 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/conv/g-adrt.c: region map names now replaces brl-cad names if the -r argument is used. |
| 19:43.00 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/conv/g-adrt.c: if color is 0 0 0 (i.e, not assigned), then supply it with 75% gray. |
| 19:53.21 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/conv/g-adrt.c: unsigned char |
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| 20:38.00 | brlcad | mm.. lookie who it is |
| 20:42.46 | brlcad | not very well apparently ;) |
| 20:43.15 | DTRemenak | hard to lurk with so few people & things to hide behind |
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| 21:32.26 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/igvt/master/ (compnet.c compnet.h main.c master.c master.h): adding support to communicate with a component server, i.e fuzzy fault tree viewer. |
| 21:34.29 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03dtremenak * 10brlcad/ (COPYING HACKING doc/cvs.txt): doc nitpicks - "it's" is not the possessive form, can't have a vast majority of two exclusive styles, typos |
| 21:49.53 | brlcad | :) |
| 22:10.37 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/igvt/master/ (Makefile.am compnet.c compnet.h master.c): slowly adding hooks to talk to component server. |
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| 23:03.40 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: define BRLCAD_VERSION in brlcad_config.h and rename BRLCAD_DATA_DIR to BRLCAD_DATA (keeping prior until Makefile.am conversions are complete) performing the same protection checks done for BRLCAD_ROOT |
| 23:05.50 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/Makefile.am: s/BRLCAD_DATA_DIR/BRLCAD_DATA/ |
| 23:09.38 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10CVSROOT/loginfo: disable commit e-mails for the majority of the s/BRLCAD_DATA_DIR/BRLCAD_DATA/ conversion |
| 23:11.40 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/doc/ (14 files in 14 dirs): s/BRLCAD_DATA_DIR/BRLCAD_DATA/g |
| 23:18.17 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/geometree/Makefile.am: s/BRLCAD_DATA_DIR/BRLCAD_DATA/ |
| 23:18.51 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/lib/Makefile.am: s/BRLCAD_DATA_DIR/BRLCAD_DATA/ |
| 23:19.23 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/Makefile.am: s/BRLCAD_DATA_DIR/BRLCAD_DATA/ |
| 23:19.58 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/mged/Makefile.am: s/BRLCAD_DATA_DIR/BRLCAD_DATA/ |
| 23:20.38 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/nirt/Makefile.am: s/BRLCAD_DATA_DIR/BRLCAD_DATA/ |
| 23:21.12 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/pl-dm/Makefile.am: s/BRLCAD_DATA_DIR/BRLCAD_DATA/ |
| 23:21.55 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/rtwizard/examples/PictureTypeA/Makefile.am: s/BRLCAD_DATA_DIR/BRLCAD_DATA/ |
| 23:23.14 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/rtwizard/examples/PictureTypeB/Makefile.am: s/BRLCAD_DATA_DIR/BRLCAD_DATA/ |
| 23:23.14 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/rtwizard/examples/PictureTypeC/Makefile.am: s/BRLCAD_DATA_DIR/BRLCAD_DATA/ |
| 23:23.34 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/rtwizard/examples/PictureTypeD/Makefile.am: s/BRLCAD_DATA_DIR/BRLCAD_DATA/ |
| 23:24.13 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/rtwizard/examples/PictureTypeE/Makefile.am: s/BRLCAD_DATA_DIR/BRLCAD_DATA/ |
| 23:24.40 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/rtwizard/examples/PictureTypeF/Makefile.am: s/BRLCAD_DATA_DIR/BRLCAD_DATA/ |
| 23:25.07 | brlcad | hmm.. i suppose I shoulda xargs'd that |
| 23:25.14 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/rtwizard/lib/Makefile.am: s/BRLCAD_DATA_DIR/BRLCAD_DATA/ |
| 23:25.29 | archivist_ | methinks somebody fixed something it just built on my debian box |
| 23:25.49 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/rtwizard/Makefile.am: s/BRLCAD_DATA_DIR/BRLCAD_DATA/ |
| 23:26.02 | brlcad | heh, about time |
| 23:26.18 | brlcad | that shoulda been some changes from a few days ago |
| 23:26.23 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/util/Makefile.am: s/BRLCAD_DATA_DIR/BRLCAD_DATA/ |
| 23:26.37 | archivist_ | just doing make install |
| 23:27.53 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10CVSROOT/loginfo: re-enable commit e-mails after s/BRLCAD_DATA_DIR/BRLCAD_DATA/ |
| 23:30.58 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/include/bu.h: bu_brlcad_path is deprecated in favor of bu_brlcad_data and bu_brlcad_root depending on whether one is searching for data resources or not |
| 23:47.11 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/include/config_win.h: update the win32 install path to brlcad7_2 |
| 23:54.11 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/include/bu.h: provide a BU_DIR_SEPARATOR define consistently for directory path separator |