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01:51.19 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/igvt/ (4 files in 2 dirs): basic component server communication complete.
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02:05.15 learner Twingy, here's one of the devices I was talking about way back when http://www.trimble.com/pathfinderproxh.shtml
02:05.43 learner they have other devices that are sub-centimeter, but I don't know how mobile they are
02:11.55 learner building the binary release tonight, so get any last commits in before I tag if you want it shipping -- it'll take about 2 hours for my build tests to complete
03:00.08 Twingy okie
03:06.47 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ (5 files in 2 dirs): updated the NEWS and README
03:10.12 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/isst/ (Makefile.am isst.h isst_struct.h): renaming IGVT to ISST
03:14.17 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ (README isst/Makefile.am isst/isst.h isst/isst_struct.h): Renaming IGVT to IVAT instead (Interactive Vulnerability Analysis Tool)
03:15.58 Twingy I should be done in about 45
03:22.53 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ivat/ (Makefile.am ivat.h ivat_struct.h): Migration 10% done.
03:23.05 brlcad k
03:24.22 Twingy I guess we'll do the python stuff next release?
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03:33.40 brlcad yeah, and improve the automatic sdl checking
03:34.07 brlcad make it compiled by default when possible
03:35.02 brlcad shouldn't take long, but we're already a few days off schedule
03:36.02 brlcad the monthly releases really should be automated so this doesn't become an issue, then it'd just be a matter of when to make additional releases
03:48.43 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ (44 files in 9 dirs): 75% done IGVT -> IVAT conversion.
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03:55.02 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/Makefile.am: IGVT->IVAT conversion 85% done
03:58.50 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/igvt/ (19 files in 4 dirs): IGVT->ISST 90%
04:00.51 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/igvt/Makefile.am: IGVT -> IVAT 91%
04:02.25 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/igvt/ (master/Makefile.am observer/Makefile.am slave/Makefile.am): IGVT->IVAT 92%
04:12.43 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/ (47 files in 12 dirs): follow rossberg's example and remove the other unnecessary ncb, opt, and dsw windows build files. leaving the .dsp files in place, though they will need to be added to the workspace in misc/win32-msvc
04:14.07 Twingy hrm
04:14.19 Twingy configure is not making my Makefile
04:27.07 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/Makefile.am: add win32-msvc to the subdir traversal path
04:27.16 Twingy just about done
04:29.45 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: gotta generate the makefile for misc/win32-msvc
04:32.18 Twingy automake is failing
04:32.21 brlcad no rush, still testing
04:32.23 Twingy lemme try and clear my cache
04:32.31 brlcad nah, you need to update -dP
04:32.42 Twingy I just did
04:32.44 Twingy I'll do it again
04:32.53 brlcad for that configure.ac change
04:32.58 Twingy k
04:33.49 Twingy sean
04:33.53 Twingy can you ssh into xon
04:35.48 Twingy I can't ssh into any machines
04:35.57 Twingy you know what's up?
04:36.37 brlcad heh, you're having that problem now too?
04:36.41 Twingy yes
04:36.42 brlcad lee was having that problem
04:36.45 Twingy something is broke
04:36.46 brlcad so was erik
04:36.59 brlcad I think you've expired in kerberos or something
04:37.09 Twingy [justin@borg:~/src/brlcad]$ ./autogen.sh
04:37.09 Twingy Found GNU Autoconf version 2.59
04:37.09 Twingy Found GNU Automake version 1.9.5
04:37.09 Twingy Found GNU Libtool version 1.5.10
04:37.09 Twingy Automatically preparing build ... Warning: autoreconf failed
04:37.10 Twingy Attempting to run the configuration steps individually
04:38.11 Twingy conftest.c:2: error: syntax error before "me"
04:38.11 Twingy configure:6779: $? = 1
04:38.11 Twingy configure: failed program was:
04:38.11 Twingy | #ifndef __cplusplus
04:38.11 Twingy | choke me
04:38.12 Twingy | #endif
04:38.14 Twingy configure:6914: ch
04:38.33 brlcad hmm.. "me"
04:38.54 Twingy I'm gonna take a break while you fix that
04:39.56 brlcad doesn't make much sense
04:40.14 brlcad that's not our code
04:41.28 brlcad try autogen.sh --verbose
04:41.39 brlcad see which step it's failing on exactly
04:41.54 brlcad also make sure you've got no cvs update conflicts
04:41.57 Twingy k
04:43.58 Twingy configure.ac:2507: required file `src/adrt/igvt/Makefile.in' not found
04:43.58 Twingy configure.ac:2507: required file `src/adrt/igvt/master/Makefile.in' not found
04:43.58 Twingy configure.ac:2507: required file `src/adrt/igvt/observer/Makefile.in' not found
04:43.58 Twingy configure.ac:2507: required file `src/adrt/igvt/slave/Makefile.in' not found
04:43.58 Twingy configure.ac:2507: required file `src/adrt/misc/Makefile.in' not found
04:44.04 Twingy checking
04:44.37 Twingy I dunno where it's getting igvt from
04:44.43 Twingy I don't have that string in any files
04:44.46 Twingy nor does a directory exist
04:46.18 brlcad that would be the problem then
04:46.29 brlcad it's probably specified in configure.ac
04:46.43 brlcad you have to edit configure.ac whenever you add/remove directories
04:47.24 Twingy yah, forgot about that
04:48.05 brlcad what happened to igvt?
04:48.16 Twingy it's now ivat
04:48.29 brlcad heh
04:48.32 brlcad and that stands for?
04:48.42 Twingy interactive vulnerability analysis tool
04:49.02 brlcad hmm
04:49.36 Twingy it's no longer a geometry viewing tool
04:49.47 Twingy it's been pushed into the vulnerability realm
04:50.23 Twingy it's entire interface revolves around vulnerability assessment
04:52.04 brlcad to you.., it's still fairly general tool utility-wise
04:52.24 Twingy not really... you haven't seen it lately
04:52.36 Twingy Lee recently called it "the shotline tool"
04:52.46 Twingy since it didn't have a definitive name yet
05:35.45 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/configure.ac: updated
05:37.36 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/misc/Makefile.am: back in
05:41.14 Twingy building
05:48.20 Twingy back
05:51.04 Twingy working build issues
05:53.50 Twingy build is good
05:53.53 Twingy commiting
05:55.10 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/ (INSTALL configure.ac src/adrt/ivat/master/Makefile.am): IGVT->IVAT 100%
05:55.20 Twingy ok
06:15.35 Twingy back
06:21.24 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/doc/ (ivat.txt binary_spec.txt ShaderRef.txt igvt.txt): updated binary spec
06:29.25 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ (4 files in 4 dirs): updated help, removed host argument.
06:29.26 brlcad remember to put them in extra_dist if you want to ship them
06:29.46 Twingy k
06:29.52 Twingy I'm not concerned right now
06:30.04 Twingy I doubt anyone will use it
06:30.23 brlcad I bet you they will
06:30.32 brlcad especially after they see the stryker pic
06:30.52 Twingy there's not enough documentation to show people how to make that pic right now
06:31.06 Twingy since I did all that in blender
06:31.30 brlcad not the render itself, which is the point :)
06:31.52 Twingy I think I've got a good 2 hours of documenting to do
06:32.04 Twingy before people grok enough of how to render moss with it
06:32.09 brlcad i was planning on including references to the images (and putting them in the gallery) in the release e-mail
06:32.17 Twingy hrm
06:32.23 Twingy well
06:32.28 brlcad don't have to
06:32.28 Twingy unless we are distributing some bots
06:32.44 Twingy they're going to have a frustrating time
06:32.52 brlcad could just wait till next month
06:33.00 Twingy I'd recommend that
06:33.09 Twingy I don't expect people to use it this month
06:33.31 brlcad i'm sure a few will just from reading the release notes
06:33.46 brlcad they've yet not to for the releases we've had
06:35.33 Twingy *shrug* maybe, I won't have a clue who's using it
06:36.06 brlcad yeah, a lot of folks will try it after they see the pics
06:36.18 brlcad so probably better to low-key it until it gets integrated better
06:36.19 Twingy I need to update that stryker pic
06:36.21 Twingy the stats are wrong
06:36.38 brlcad 5 days.. er weeks :)
06:36.53 Twingy # of rays
06:37.35 Twingy 7.97 trillion rays
06:38.41 Twingy ~18 million rays/sec
06:41.23 Twingy let me update the stryker pic before you post it
06:42.29 brlcad k
06:42.34 brlcad i'll hold off until next month
06:42.55 brlcad until at least next month
06:45.06 brlcad is python 2.4 really required? what's the min?
06:52.35 Twingy one more commit
06:52.49 Twingy any python will do
06:52.58 Twingy it's used in the master for the console to do numerical entry
06:53.10 Twingy which is interfaced by the observer
06:53.20 Twingy through sdl
06:55.34 brlcad worked with 2.2
06:55.46 Twingy yah
06:55.49 Twingy should work with 2.x
06:55.53 Twingy I'm not picky.
06:56.01 Twingy I'm doing very basic stuff with it
06:56.55 Twingy commiting
07:03.02 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ (4 files in 3 dirs): updated logo, added minimal help for rise.
07:05.28 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ivat/ (observer/Makefile.am slave/Makefile.am): correct binary names generated now.
07:07.05 Twingy k
07:07.08 Twingy I think that about does it for me
07:07.14 Twingy I can live with what's in there
07:09.03 Twingy if you want
07:09.12 Twingy we can put a bot version of moss in there
07:09.20 Twingy then they'd have something to play with
07:10.04 brlcad no sense duplicating something that simple
07:10.46 brlcad the humvee as a bot would be good
07:12.03 Twingy humvee is (c)
07:12.11 Twingy yah
07:12.12 Twingy beats me
07:12.32 Twingy if I had time I'd model my trooper
07:12.39 Twingy but I suck at brl-cad modeling
07:13.32 brlcad the original is, but what about a derivative?
07:13.38 Twingy dunno
07:13.42 Twingy I would think not
07:13.54 Twingy but I guess since more than 50% of it is orignal
07:13.57 Twingy then I wanna say no
07:14.01 Twingy we can't release it
07:14.02 brlcad it woulda been mentioned on the place you got it from
07:14.31 Twingy http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/terms.aspx
07:15.27 brlcad heh "You are responsible for regularly reviewing these Terms of Use"
07:15.30 brlcad yeah right
07:17.49 brlcad ah, the site is just a middle-man -- Justin Wilson is "the man"
07:18.02 brlcad do you get a contact if you log in?
07:18.24 Twingy Dastin
07:18.37 brlcad er, yeah, that's what i meant
07:18.44 Twingy nope
07:18.53 brlcad anything extra if you log in?
07:18.56 Twingy nope
07:20.44 Twingy moss aint bad
07:20.47 Twingy if we put it in a box
07:20.52 Twingy and a light
07:20.59 Twingy all they'd have to do is run rise
07:21.55 Twingy well
07:21.56 Twingy g-adrt
07:21.59 Twingy and then rise
07:22.22 Twingy just wait till the next ver
07:22.30 Twingy err relase
07:24.52 brlcad we shall see what he says..
07:25.11 Twingy got an email?
07:25.37 brlcad i think, will know soon enough
07:25.43 Twingy google?
07:27.34 brlcad and leaving special little black packages around your mouse too i bet
07:27.40 Twingy nope
07:27.47 Twingy I let them expunge em all first
07:27.53 brlcad heh, not feeding them?
07:27.57 Twingy after you quarantine them and let em get about 6 out
07:28.00 Twingy they're clean for a while
07:28.02 brlcad ahh, so you just shake em for a lil bit
07:28.11 Twingy nope, naturally
07:28.15 Twingy takes a few minutes
07:30.00 Twingy I got ivat talking to brian's fuzzy fault tree now
07:30.06 Twingy it's pretty sweet
07:40.39 Twingy hrm
07:40.51 Twingy I think the opengl drivers need updated on my box
07:40.59 Twingy maybe I'll model my rocket tommorrow
07:41.04 Twingy and build a fake sysdef
07:41.36 Twingy you see the AMD-X2's I spec'd out for SAB?
07:43.04 brlcad nope, just heard a hint
07:43.28 Twingy I'm installing new drivers, brb
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07:46.07 Twingy ah, cool
07:46.11 Twingy gl select is fixed now
07:46.21 Twingy muuuuuuuuuch better
07:53.27 Twingy welp
07:53.29 Twingy I'm off to bed
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14:09.51 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/other/libz/inftrees.c:
14:09.51 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: apply patch for CAN-2005-2096 aka SA15949 aka DSA-740-1 aka RHSA-2005:569 aka
14:09.51 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: GLSA 200507-05 (original identifier) addressing a potential vulnerability
14:09.51 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: whereby an attacker could construct a malformed data stream, embedding it within
14:09.51 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: network communication or an application file format, potentially resulting in
14:09.52 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: the execution of arbitrary code when decoded by the application using the zlib
14:09.54 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: library.
14:15.27 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS:
14:15.27 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: apply zlib vulnerability patch for CAN-2005-2096 aka SA15949 aka DSA-740-1 aka
14:15.27 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: RHSA-2005:569 aka GLSA 200507-05 (original identifier) addressing a potential
14:15.27 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: vulnerability whereby an attacker could construct a malformed data stream,
14:15.27 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: embedding it within network communication or an application file format,
14:15.28 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: potentially resulting in the execution of arbitrary code when decoded by the
14:15.30 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: application using the zlib library.
16:53.48 tarzeau any news?
16:54.03 tarzeau brlcad: like the new version?
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17:36.12 learner tarzeau, gets posted today
17:36.37 tarzeau learner: yay!
18:07.11 Twingy I think I'm going to make g-adrt a little smarter and pull information about lights
18:07.21 tarzeau learner, brlcad: i just found out the packages exist already
18:07.26 Twingy that would technically be enough to do everything in brl-cad and render with rise
18:07.34 tarzeau scientificcomputing.net/debian/packages/brlcad/
18:31.23 Twingy hrm
18:31.51 Twingy I need to get me one of them AMD X2'
19:06.54 Twingy Initializing and backgrounding, please wait...invalid command name "gui"
19:07.02 Twingy I'm still having that problem sean
19:07.09 Twingy I suspect others will be too?
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20:12.01 brlcad i'm going to dual-license the documentation for the distributions that complain about gfdl not going on drm media
20:12.45 brlcad and for the invariant section clause
20:13.44 brlcad the question open for discussion is whether the dual should be gpl or bsd
20:14.28 brlcad the difference, of course, is modification sharing (both require authorship maintenance)
20:41.37 tarzeau brlcad: did you read your backlog ?
20:47.30 brlcad usually, why? I miss something?
21:01.09 tarzeau brlcad: there is already a debian package
21:01.14 tarzeau i got back to the guy who filed the ITP in january
21:01.22 tarzeau i'll look at his packages next week.
21:01.34 tarzeau i hope he can get them officially in soon
21:02.19 brlcad yeah, I'd forgot about that package, though it's still not in debian proper
21:02.25 brlcad and not installed into the correct location
21:02.46 brlcad 7.4 should let it install better
21:07.20 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/m4/restore.m4: restoration check still failing to avoid getting clobbered with the generic docs -- improve the restoration check by minimizing the cases that result in a backup restore and the cases that cause a backup to get saved.
21:12.30 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/adrt/misc/Makefile.am: vertex ops, rename.pl and server.cxx are gone, ivat.png and rename.pl are added
21:13.27 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/adrt/doc/Makefile.am: binary spec is gone, added are ivat and rise text files
21:14.22 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/adrt/Makefile.am: fix the source distribution target yet again.. need to traverse into doc, misc, and scripts at least on dist.
21:16.04 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ (6 files in 6 dirs): ignore the adrt products
21:18.53 Twingy sean, should I do an update, will that fix my mged problem?
21:19.33 brlcad no
21:19.45 brlcad testing mged now
21:20.36 brlcad that error means it couldn't find tclscripts for some reason
21:21.11 brlcad which should only happen if you're trying to run mged from outside the source tree (or from too deep within) without installing mged first
21:21.36 brlcad there have been changes to that recently, though, so i'll see if it's something new
21:45.25 Twingy k
21:54.16 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/INSTALL: revert the mistaken commit of the generic install instructions
22:01.18 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/autogen.sh: why bother looping if aux_dir doesn't exist
22:47.57 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/COPYING:
22:47.57 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: the BRL-CAD documentation is available under a dual-license strategy allowing
22:47.57 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: for recepients to choose between the GFDL and GPL. this allows for the
22:47.57 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: documentation to be included on otherwise opaque distribution mediums and
22:47.57 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: over-zealous packaging distributions that don't seem to agree with allowing
22:47.58 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: minor invariant sections (which none of brl-cad's docs have anyways).
22:56.14 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/COPYING: as represented by arl
22:57.12 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/macosx/Resources/License.rtf: updated to new copying details (mainly that documentation is dual-licensed with GPL)
23:15.39 Twingy should I do an update now?

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