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| 17:03.10 | AllenHarvey | Is anyone here familair with the EVA-3D material table files used with some BRL-CAD modeling? |
| 17:03.34 | AllenHarvey | I am trying to determine what 3 of the 9 fields in the table represent |
| 17:03.55 | AllenHarvey | so that I can create my own materials for use with another program, MEVA |
| 17:04.18 | AllenHarvey | I was trying to track down an MGED document that supposedly detailed that information |
| 17:05.55 | brlcad | eva-3d.. hmm |
| 17:07.24 | brlcad | i'm not familiar with eva-3d, do you have a context? |
| 17:07.34 | brlcad | brl-cad has it's own material files, but the format is pretty simple |
| 17:08.07 | brlcad | i do know where most of the mged docs are, though ;) |
| 17:08.26 | AllenHarvey | argh |
| 17:08.45 | AllenHarvey | eva-3d uses the same files as MEVA |
| 17:08.51 | brlcad | ahh |
| 17:09.01 | brlcad | would you happen to have a link for eva-3d? |
| 17:09.07 | AllenHarvey | nothing |
| 17:09.11 | brlcad | familiar with meva |
| 17:09.14 | AllenHarvey | here's an example of an entry in teh table: |
| 17:09.31 | AllenHarvey | 500150.05000.00.05.0Concrete3.0e70.92.43e7 |
| 17:09.40 | AllenHarvey | oops, it didn't accept my tabs |
| 17:09.54 | AllenHarvey | 500 150.0 5000.0 0.0 5.0 Concrete 3.0e7 0.9 2.43e7 |
| 17:10.02 | brlcad | 3no matter, i see the columns :) |
| 17:10.26 | brlcad | let me see what I can find out.. gimme a sec |
| 17:10.39 | AllenHarvey | i am fairly certain I have the names of the first 6 columns (up until the name) |
| 17:11.14 | brlcad | one of those is probably a density and a youngs modulus |
| 17:11.27 | AllenHarvey | the 2nd column is density in lbs/feet |
| 17:11.36 | brlcad | ahh |
| 17:11.42 | brlcad | not used to seeing them in those units :) |
| 17:11.52 | AllenHarvey | i prefer SI |
| 17:12.02 | AllenHarvey | but MEVA prefers english units |
| 17:12.11 | AllenHarvey | the first column is an ID |
| 17:12.26 | AllenHarvey | 2nd is Density |
| 17:12.36 | AllenHarvey | 3rd is compressive strength (psi) |
| 17:12.55 | AllenHarvey | 4th is the S-Number for soil (0 for materials other than soil) |
| 17:13.03 | AllenHarvey | 5th is the percent rebar |
| 17:13.09 | AllenHarvey | 6th is the name |
| 17:13.21 | AllenHarvey | I deduced those from the MEVA user's manual |
| 17:13.30 | AllenHarvey | but there is no reference to the last 3 columns |
| 17:18.51 | brlcad | hmm.. if it has compressive strength, then steel yield strength should be another (usually go together) |
| 17:19.20 | AllenHarvey | that column means steel yield strength when defining steel |
| 17:20.55 | brlcad | cept they are separate values, e.g. 10MPa compressive and 295 MPa steel yield for concrete or therebouts |
| 17:22.48 | brlcad | what led you to there being an mged document that details it? I'm not seeing anything in the historic docs and know it's not in the new docs |
| 17:23.16 | AllenHarvey | the reference section of the MEVA user's manual |
| 17:23.27 | brlcad | does it say which document? |
| 17:23.32 | AllenHarvey | it says that information on EVA-3D material tables are from it |
| 17:23.36 | AllenHarvey | yes, one moment |
| 17:24.26 | AllenHarvey | MGED User's Manual, Advanced Computing Systems, U.S., Army Research Laboratory, Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD, December 1991. |
| 17:24.59 | AllenHarvey | i may have found that document (uncertain if I did), but there was no mention of EVA-3D in the document I found |
| 17:25.15 | brlcad | that would be one of the big old green books, lemme go grab one |
| 17:26.04 | AllenHarvey | I believe the document I found on the web was really made in 1988, although the link claimed 1991 |
| 17:40.14 | brlcad | back |
| 17:40.31 | AllenHarvey | as am I |
| 17:40.33 | brlcad | heh, eek, that would have been good to know before i wandered off.. :) |
| 17:40.37 | AllenHarvey | did you have any luck? |
| 17:40.42 | brlcad | nothing in the 91' books |
| 17:40.44 | AllenHarvey | i was here all the time |
| 17:40.58 | AllenHarvey | but continuing my search |
| 17:41.12 | brlcad | i didn't look into the 88 books.. |
| 17:41.23 | AllenHarvey | i wouldn't bother searching those |
| 17:42.09 | brlcad | it's not clear what even the old books would have said |
| 17:42.20 | AllenHarvey | I understand |
| 17:42.29 | brlcad | brl-cad only deals with a material code, the density, and perhaps line of sight |
| 17:42.44 | AllenHarvey | some place along the line there must have been a source to flat out say what the columns in the table represented |
| 17:42.54 | AllenHarvey | That's what I thought |
| 17:43.26 | AllenHarvey | this table file i'm working with maps the material code defined in the brlcad model to another material |
| 17:43.59 | brlcad | right, the .g just has a code/id .. that gets used by apps in different ways |
| 17:44.12 | AllenHarvey | yep |
| 17:44.37 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ (7 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 17:44.37 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: * Fixed the rendering weirdness on the slave start-up |
| 17:44.37 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: Slaves were requesting a work unit right after prep begins |
| 17:44.37 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: so that slaves were holding onto a work unit for a lengthy time |
| 17:44.37 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: until prep finished and causing the units to not get done until |
| 17:44.38 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: prep finished. |
| 17:44.40 | AllenHarvey | I only asked here about this file because the reference claimed it used information from an MGED manual |
| 17:44.40 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: * Added compute nodes status to observer. |
| 17:45.41 | AllenHarvey | I appreciate your time and help trying to track down this information |
| 18:07.35 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: lee added g_qa geometry quality analysis tool; justin added adrt interactive shot selection tool -- need write-up for both |
| 18:31.06 | prasad_ | meva is oss? |
| 18:31.20 | brlcad | no |
| 18:31.33 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: include a writeup for isst and g_qa |
| 18:31.42 | prasad_ | who's allenharvey? |
| 18:31.47 | brlcad | allen's been here several times before |
| 18:31.53 | prasad_ | ah |
| 18:32.15 | brlcad | a guy that needs to use meva, but has no other means for meva support ;) |
| 18:32.45 | brlcad | tried to get meva using v7, but meva was doing something "bad" .. |
| 18:33.02 | brlcad | er, tried through allen .. still have to try it myself at some point |
| 18:33.07 | prasad_ | bill asked me to get it compiling on the opteron |
| 18:33.22 | prasad_ | code was pre-ansi-std c++ |
| 18:33.24 | brlcad | though the meva devs made it sound like it was getting completely sucked into the end game framework |
| 18:33.47 | prasad_ | yes, hence why bill wanted it updated |
| 18:33.49 | brlcad | i'm supposed to get the egf sometime soon here |
| 18:34.00 | prasad_ | i assume the binaries, not code |
| 18:34.26 | prasad_ | iirc DA isn't getting the src |
| 18:34.35 | prasad_ | *shouldn't be |
| 18:34.41 | prasad_ | perhaps, policy has changed |
| 18:35.27 | brlcad | no, the whole shebang |
| 18:35.37 | prasad_ | interesting |
| 18:35.51 | prasad_ | afrl gave in it would seem |
| 18:35.53 | prasad_ | -it |
| 18:35.59 | prasad_ | er nm |
| 18:36.43 | brlcad | either that or this particular dev could have not given a flying sh.. |
| 18:36.54 | prasad_ | heh |
| 18:37.39 | prasad_ | so whats the movie next week |
| 18:38.02 | prasad_ | since craptastic is playing now |
| 18:46.04 | brlcad | heh |
| 18:46.07 | brlcad | dunnos |
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| 20:12.06 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: Fixed a bug where 3 hits were found and checking for duplicates was done, but not all the |
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