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*** join/#brlcad hippie23
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hippie23 |
hello |
01:14.10 |
learner |
hello |
01:20.40 |
hippie23 |
hi |
01:20.57 |
hippie23 |
I just downloaded brl-cad |
01:20.57 |
learner |
how goes it? |
01:21.01 |
hippie23 |
ok |
01:21.09 |
learner |
great |
01:21.54 |
hippie23 |
I'll brb |
01:22.36 |
hippie23 |
I gotta change to root user so I can extract
the files to the right directory |
01:22.57 |
hippie23 |
unless you know the command line
sequence? |
01:23.06 |
learner |
you have sudo? |
01:23.24 |
hippie23 |
im new to linux |
01:23.28 |
learner |
ahh |
01:23.36 |
learner |
you've already unpacked the tarfile? |
01:23.48 |
hippie23 |
no, I havent |
01:23.58 |
learner |
go ahead and unpack it |
01:24.06 |
learner |
tar zxvf brlcadwhatever.tar.gz |
01:24.30 |
hippie23 |
ok |
01:24.43 |
learner |
you should have a usr directory now? |
01:24.50 |
learner |
ls usr |
01:24.51 |
hippie23 |
yes I do |
01:25.10 |
learner |
let's see if you have sudo (you
should) |
01:25.13 |
learner |
sudo ls |
01:25.24 |
learner |
should prompt you for your password |
01:25.40 |
learner |
(yours not root's) |
01:26.08 |
learner |
it'll just run ls as root |
01:26.15 |
learner |
to make sure it works |
01:26.18 |
hippie23 |
oh.. I have a root termanal open |
01:26.31 |
learner |
that works too |
01:26.36 |
learner |
you could have also just run 'su' |
01:26.37 |
hippie23 |
its extracting |
01:26.55 |
hippie23 |
it just finished |
01:27.15 |
learner |
where did you extract it to? |
01:27.49 |
hippie23 |
/usr/brlcad |
01:27.56 |
learner |
great :) |
01:29.16 |
Twingy |
hrm |
01:29.28 |
Twingy |
Whatchyou lookin at foo |
01:29.30 |
learner |
the next/last step will be to add
/usr/brlcad/bin to your PATH |
01:36.10 |
learner |
hippie23, you got it going yet? |
01:38.01 |
hippie23 |
no... it installed to the wrong directory...
GRRRRRR!!!! |
01:38.25 |
learner |
you can just move the directory to where it
needs to be |
01:38.31 |
learner |
unpack it anywhere |
01:38.41 |
learner |
and as root, mv usr/brlcad /usr/. |
01:40.14 |
hippie23 |
ok... now its where it should be |
01:40.52 |
learner |
for a quick test: export
PATH=/usr/brlcad/bin:$PATH |
01:40.53 |
learner |
rt |
01:41.10 |
learner |
if it's all good, rt will output a usage
message including version information |
01:41.33 |
learner |
at which point you could fire up the modeler,
mged and get started on the tutorials ;) |
01:43.13 |
hippie23 |
rt: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not
found (required by rt) |
01:43.14 |
hippie23 |
rt: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not
found (required by /usr/brlcad/lib/librt.so.19) |
01:43.14 |
hippie23 |
rt: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not
found (required by /usr/brlcad/lib/libfb.so.19) |
01:43.14 |
hippie23 |
rt: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not
found (required by /usr/brlcad/lib/libpkg.so.19) |
01:43.14 |
hippie23 |
rt: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not
found (required by /usr/brlcad/lib/libbu.so.19) |
01:43.14 |
hippie23 |
rt: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not
found (required by /usr/brlcad/lib/libtcl8.4.so.19) |
01:43.25 |
hippie23 |
nice error message |
01:43.42 |
learner |
hmm |
01:43.48 |
learner |
what OS is this? |
01:43.54 |
hippie23 |
rh 7.3 |
01:44.02 |
learner |
OH.. heh |
01:44.08 |
learner |
yeah, that won't fly |
01:44.23 |
hippie23 |
CRAP! |
01:44.28 |
learner |
hope is not lost |
01:44.33 |
learner |
you can compile it yourself easily
enough |
01:44.40 |
learner |
I can give you the steps if you like |
01:44.45 |
hippie23 |
ok |
01:44.59 |
learner |
type these: |
01:45.20 |
learner |
cvs -d
:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/brlcad login |
01:45.33 |
learner |
[ press enter for password, there is no
password ] |
01:45.41 |
learner |
cvs -d
:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/brlcad checkout -P
brlcad |
01:45.48 |
learner |
do this from your home directory |
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learner |
cd brlcad |
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learner |
./autogen.sh |
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learner |
./configure --enable-optimized |
01:46.18 |
hippie23 |
bash: cvs: command not found |
01:46.26 |
learner |
ah |
01:46.45 |
Twingy |
hey sean, ever thought about making optimized
the default and non optimized a flag? |
01:46.49 |
learner |
you'll have to download the latest source
tarball then from http://sf.net/projects/brlcad/ |
01:47.53 |
learner |
Twingy, yeah, i have.. :) |
01:48.02 |
Twingy |
let's do it :) |
01:48.16 |
learner |
it's not on purpose actually |
01:48.25 |
learner |
faster more debuggable builds |
01:48.28 |
Twingy |
I'm still pondering how to fold in the SSE
stuff to adrt |
01:48.32 |
Twingy |
-msse |
01:48.39 |
Twingy |
whether I want to keep it cross-platform
like |
01:48.47 |
Twingy |
I'm leaning towards yes |
01:49.19 |
Twingy |
cause like |
01:49.23 |
Twingy |
altivec will dissapear in 2 years |
01:49.48 |
learner |
7 years through maintenance, but only 4 or so
for us |
01:50.00 |
Twingy |
I can support Mac, Linux, FreeBSD, and Windows
if I made SSE a requirement |
01:51.47 |
Twingy |
everyone that's doing high performance
ray-tracing these days is doing it on x86, so I might just keep an
old version around for support legacy machines like sgi and stuff
that may want to use it |
01:51.54 |
learner |
why not just make alternate sse routines and
have it pick at configure-time |
01:52.09 |
Twingy |
well I was thinking about doing that
anyway |
01:52.14 |
Twingy |
but then I have 2 codebases to
maintain |
01:52.21 |
learner |
or as you put it, make the non-sse the
"alternate" |
01:52.23 |
Twingy |
it's under 1k lines so it's not too
terrible |
01:52.27 |
Twingy |
but still more work |
01:52.37 |
Twingy |
I'm thinking sine the API is solid |
01:52.41 |
learner |
exactly, that's not too much to maintain, and
the core is less likely to change I'd imagine |
01:52.42 |
Twingy |
I'll just keep an old legacy version
around |
01:52.43 |
hippie23 |
I hpe brl-cad doesnt run slow |
01:52.50 |
hippie23 |
my computer is old |
01:52.56 |
Twingy |
define old? |
01:53.29 |
hippie23 |
celeron 667, 20GB HDD, 320MB ram, i810 crap
video |
01:53.31 |
learner |
hippie23, depends completely on what you ask
it to do -- it's run on very very old/slow machines over the
decades |
01:53.47 |
learner |
ahh, that's not too old :) |
01:53.57 |
Twingy |
that'll take you ~40 minutes to
compile |
01:53.58 |
learner |
i mean I wouldn't be happy if I were you, but
it's not horrible :) |
01:54.28 |
Twingy |
hrm |
01:54.33 |
Twingy |
tommorrow I'm gonna put my house up for
sale |
01:54.40 |
hippie23 |
well its all I got, other than an old p133,
486dx4-100, and an 8088 |
01:54.41 |
learner |
25 if he doesn't optimize the build maybe
:) |
01:54.54 |
Twingy |
he's gonna need every optimization he can
get |
01:55.06 |
learner |
yeah |
01:55.08 |
Twingy |
are the distros getting installed on the sgi's
at work the optimized ones? |
01:55.19 |
learner |
yes |
01:55.22 |
Twingy |
cool |
01:55.31 |
learner |
at least when I make them |
01:55.42 |
learner |
which is often not the case.. |
01:55.44 |
Twingy |
people like keith trying to do stryker level
stuff on a 1GB 200mhz sgi o2 is painful |
01:56.04 |
Twingy |
those guys need to speak up more |
01:56.21 |
Twingy |
it's so sad seeing them with 1.4ghz P4's and
200 mhz O2's |
01:57.28 |
hippie23 |
ima need a new HDD soon |
01:57.35 |
hippie23 |
this thing is on its way out |
01:58.07 |
Twingy |
heh |
01:58.09 |
hippie23 |
just like my monitor blinks out
sometimes |
01:58.11 |
Twingy |
I'm using 11GB at home |
01:58.24 |
Twingy |
mostly just source code and old
projects |
01:58.38 |
Twingy |
makes it kinda easy not having much digital
media to store |
01:58.50 |
learner |
hippie23, add --disable-runtime-debug to the
configure options too when you get to it |
01:59.02 |
learner |
that'll give you a small performance
boost |
01:59.51 |
hippie23 |
yah.. if my HDD doesnt crack before
then |
02:00.52 |
learner |
there is no such lib to my knowledge |
02:00.59 |
learner |
~ww |
02:00.59 |
ibot |
Thanks for wasting our time yet again by
telling us "ww" |
02:01.13 |
hippie23 |
ww? |
02:02.19 |
hippie23 |
whats ww? |
02:02.27 |
learner |
wrong window :) |
02:02.31 |
hippie23 |
oh |
02:03.35 |
hippie23 |
do you know how to get a smaller firefox icon,
the damn thing is HUGE! |
02:05.54 |
learner |
heh, can't help you there :) |
02:06.08 |
learner |
it's probably tiny on a big display
;) |
02:06.32 |
hippie23 |
im running 1024x768 |
02:06.51 |
hippie23 |
its so big it makes all my other icons look
tiny |
02:07.08 |
learner |
ahh |
02:08.11 |
hippie23 |
in winblows its the same size as all the other
icons, why did they make it so big in linux? |
02:10.55 |
learner |
probably "because they could" |
02:12.51 |
Twingy |
all your icon are belong to me |
02:28.55 |
hippie23 |
hahaha |
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silvap_ |
~hoho |
03:42.44 |
ibot |
Ho Ho! Merry Christmas! |
03:42.56 |
silvap_ |
~who is your creator? |
03:42.57 |
ibot |
silvap_: what are you talking about? |
03:43.12 |
silvap_ |
cute |
03:43.21 |
learner |
~ibot |
03:43.21 |
ibot |
it has been said that ibot is a blootbot
written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/
, ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but
mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
03:43.43 |
silvap_ |
~what is the square root of pi? |
03:43.45 |
ibot |
I think you lost me on that one,
silvap_ |
03:43.53 |
silvap_ |
useless |
03:45.01 |
learner |
~pi |
03:45.01 |
ibot |
somebody said pi was
3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091 |
03:45.15 |
learner |
~2 + 2 |
03:45.15 |
ibot |
extra, extra, read all about it, 2 + 2 is 5
for sufficiently large values of 2 |
03:45.41 |
learner |
:) |
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