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01:06.34 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * 10brlcad/src/libbn/vectfont.c:
01:06.34 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: Added new symbols: plus/minus, degree, and centerline.
01:06.34 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: Corrected tp_setup() method (it was over-writing the symbols)
01:11.33 pra5ad whoa
01:14.06 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * 10brlcad/src/librt/nmg_misc.c:
01:14.06 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: Added a new method: nmg_vlist_to_eu( struct bu_list *vlist, struct shell *s )
01:14.06 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: creates wire edges in the specified shell. The edges correspond to line segments in the
01:14.06 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: list of "bn_vlist" structures passed in. Used in "dxf-g" to handle tet strings.
01:15.53 pra5ad hey sean
01:16.13 pra5ad configure isn't setting some vars in config.h correctly
01:16.25 brlcad such as?
01:16.26 pra5ad do i need something extra in .ac
01:16.31 pra5ad PACKAGE and VERSION
01:16.35 pra5ad even tho AC_INIT has em
01:17.40 brlcad huh?
01:17.59 brlcad #define PACKAGE "brlcad"
01:18.23 brlcad #define VERSION "7.6.1"
01:18.26 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * 10brlcad/src/conv/dxf-g.c:
01:18.26 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: Added rudimentary text handling. Uses vector font in libbn (vectfont.c) and
01:18.26 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: nmg_vlist_to_eu() to create wire edges to represent the text.
01:18.33 pra5ad AC_INIT(blah, 1.0) <<-- configure.ac
01:18.49 pra5ad #define PACKAGE "Package" <<- config.h
01:18.59 pra5ad shouldn't configure fill it in correctly?
01:19.07 pra5ad since it's creating config.h from config.h.in
01:19.33 brlcad AC_INIT doesn't create config.h
01:20.07 pra5ad soo i need to AC_SUBST(PACKAGE) ?
01:20.36 brlcad no
01:20.38 brlcad AM_CONFIG_HEADER
01:21.03 pra5ad config.status: creating src/memory/Makefile
01:21.03 pra5ad config.status: creating include/config/config.h
01:21.03 pra5ad config.status: include/config/config.h is unchanged
01:21.03 pra5ad config.status: executing depfiles commands
01:21.28 pra5ad i have AC_CONFIG_HEADER
01:21.42 pra5ad docs said AM_CONFIG_HEADER is obsolete
01:22.54 brlcad meh, those idiots make just about everything obsolete every other version
01:23.19 brlcad ac_config_header([config.h]), yes?
01:23.31 pra5ad upper case, yes
01:23.52 pra5ad i run autoheader and ./configure
01:24.00 pra5ad config.h doesnt have the right subst
01:24.01 brlcad er, include/config.h
01:24.09 pra5ad er, yes
01:24.11 pra5ad :)
01:24.30 pra5ad AC_CONFIG_HEADER([include/config/config.h])
01:24.52 brlcad kill your autom4te cache and run autoreconf (or snarf autogen.sh)
01:25.54 pra5ad #define PACKAGE "package"
01:26.32 brlcad try the long version of ac_init
01:27.01 brlcad ac_init(long, version, url, shortname)
01:31.11 pra5ad hehe think i found the prob
01:31.30 pra5ad was doing ac_init([var],...)
01:33.39 pra5ad hrm nm
01:33.51 pra5ad thought it was just subst with 'var'
01:35.44 pra5ad grr
01:36.19 pra5ad ./* Name of package */
01:36.19 pra5ad #define PACKAGE "PACKAGE_SHORT_NAME"
01:36.39 pra5ad AC_INIT(PACKAGE_LONG_NAME,VERSION,PACKAGE_URL,PACKAGE_SHORT_NAME)
01:37.56 brlcad yep
01:38.12 pra5ad what am i doing wrong
01:38.40 brlcad i'm not sure what you think you're doing wrong
01:39.00 pra5ad i define PACKAGE_SHORT_NAME="blah blah"
01:39.08 brlcad package is the short name
01:39.11 Twingy use scons :)
01:39.35 brlcad package_name is the long name
01:39.47 pra5ad shouldnt that line in config.h be: #define PACKAGE "blah blah"
01:39.48 pra5ad ???
01:40.03 brlcad short_name shouldn't ahve spaces
01:40.18 brlcad i dont' think eitehr is supposed to have spaces
01:41.20 pra5ad i thought PACKAGE would be #defined to be a string, so code can use it in cout, etc
01:41.38 brlcad it is a string
01:41.51 pra5ad right..
01:41.58 pra5ad so why isnt configure subst it correctly
01:41.59 brlcad that doesn't mean it can have spaces .. that's up to autoconf
01:42.10 pra5ad ok fine, look at this
01:42.38 pra5ad PACKAGE_SHORT_NAME="yats"
01:42.42 pra5ad that's what is in my code
01:42.56 pra5ad "blah blah" was my example..
01:43.18 brlcad pra5ad: what's your exact AC_INIT line?
01:43.30 pra5ad AC_INIT(PACKAGE_LONG_NAME,VERSION,PACKAGE_URL,PACKAGE_SHORT_NAME)
01:43.37 brlcad heh, that's no good
01:43.46 brlcad put the values
01:43.55 pra5ad why not?
01:44.01 brlcad even if you were trying to use variables, that's wrong
01:44.09 pra5ad how would i use a var
01:44.29 brlcad well, for AC_INIT in particular, you can't use shell variables
01:44.37 brlcad you'd have to use an m4 variable
01:44.42 brlcad s/variable/define/
01:45.17 pra5ad argh
01:45.17 pra5ad ok
01:45.25 brlcad but if it was allowed, it'd be something like AC_INIT([$PACKAGE_LONG_NAME], ...
01:47.32 brlcad but it's not, so don't bother ;)
01:48.10 brlcad ac_init must occur before variables, otherwise they're not technically set when AC_INIT is processed
01:48.26 pra5ad righto
01:48.28 pra5ad works now
01:48.31 brlcad m4 macros aren't like c preprocessor macros
01:48.33 pra5ad tanx
01:48.36 brlcad it's not substitution
01:51.10 pra5ad anyone know of a good SDL replacement?
01:51.33 brlcad what aspect of sdl?
01:51.46 brlcad graphics/windowing?
01:52.18 pra5ad + kb/mouse at least
01:52.30 pra5ad + opengl support
01:52.41 pra5ad *(support for opengl contexts)
01:52.51 brlcad clanlib is similarly geared in that regard
01:52.58 brlcad probably the only other full-fledged api
01:55.15 brlcad otherwise you start gearing towards a platform
01:55.55 brlcad like gtk, cocoa, and qt
01:56.10 brlcad kdelibs
01:56.24 pra5ad hrm
01:56.25 brlcad openstep
01:56.49 pra5ad sdl mac port is unsupported
01:56.56 pra5ad sorted concerned
01:56.59 pra5ad sorta*
01:57.04 brlcad it works fine
01:57.09 pra5ad yea?
01:57.17 pra5ad alrighty then
01:58.01 brlcad replaced bz's custom cocoa+carbon platform code with sdl platform code relatively easily
01:58.26 pra5ad im | | close to getting this project compiled in cygwin, but cygwin's gcc isn't linking to the sdl libs correctly
01:58.54 Twingy fozhizzle
01:58.55 pra5ad msg boards say gcc-mingw will work
01:58.56 brlcad very slight performance hit (< 2% probably) .. but well worth it in the extra features it provided for free (like full-screen/window toggles, resizing, events)
01:58.59 pra5ad too lazy to try yet
01:59.50 pra5ad toggle only works on x11 no?
02:00.04 pra5ad so says sdl header
02:01.40 brlcad no, never would use that on x11 unless I had to
02:23.36 pra5ad dammit
02:23.56 pra5ad where's tegtmeyer
02:24.03 pra5ad need his vast template expertise
05:04.44 Maloeran SDL's fullscreen toggle couldn't work on windows for ogl, it requires destroying and recreating the context due to some limitations
05:05.23 Maloeran There wouldn't be a problem for mere 2d rendering, but that's probably why it's only for x11 in any case
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13:46.21 brlcad Maloeran, we use SDL's fullscreen toggle on ogl windows in bz just fine (on all platforms, x11 or otherwise). it does require an ogl state reinit inside your code, but that's generally not a problem since you have to do that anyways at least once.
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14:28.17 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * 10brlcad/src/libbn/bn_tcl.c: initialize scale structure
14:30.44 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * 10brlcad/TODO:
14:30.44 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: new section: oddities
14:30.44 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: why is there a scale in bn_cmd_noise_slice?
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20:44.02 *** topic/#brlcad is http://brlcad.org/ || BRL-CAD is now Open Source! || Release 7.6.0 is now being prepared
20:44.14 BigIslandVegan i typed ``Erik's command and it came back with the command prompt, I assume that is a good thing
20:44.18 brlcad no X11 running and it's not an "app" in to Finder without going through some hoops (like shoving the binary into a .app or making a .script that execs x11 and mged)
20:44.35 ``Erik BigIslandVegan: yes, you can do "cat ~/.bashrc" to see if it worked, it should give you the export line back
20:44.36 brlcad BigIslandVegan: yes, now close the window and open a new xterm
20:45.01 brlcad type "rt" to see if it worked
20:45.13 brlcad you should get a usage block of info about rt
20:45.25 BigIslandVegan do i need to quit x11 and mged entirely or just close this particular x11 window and open a new one?
20:45.38 ``Erik just the xterm window
20:45.39 brlcad just the xterm window
20:45.42 brlcad damn
20:45.43 BigIslandVegan ok
20:45.49 ``Erik and you don't really need to close it, you could 'source' the file instead
20:46.03 BigIslandVegan new x11 terminal window
20:46.29 BigIslandVegan rt gave me brl-cad info and switch options
20:46.42 ``Erik sweet, it works, now you can run "mged"
20:46.49 BigIslandVegan hmm
20:46.54 BigIslandVegan what is "rt"?
20:46.58 ``Erik raytracer
20:47.00 BigIslandVegan raytrace something?
20:47.02 BigIslandVegan ok
20:47.06 brlcad makes pretty pictures
20:47.16 ``Erik mine makes ugly pictures :(
20:47.18 BigIslandVegan YAY!
20:47.27 brlcad there are over 400 commands like that in BRL-CAD ..
20:47.29 BigIslandVegan too soon
20:47.32 BigIslandVegan :-)
20:47.43 BigIslandVegan hmm, brl-cad is heavy on command line?
20:47.49 brlcad though much that you'll initially care about is available through mged
20:48.20 brlcad there's an expectation of minimal command line familiarity if you get into advanced modeling
20:48.28 BigIslandVegan ok
20:48.29 brlcad otherwise, you can model and render using mged
20:48.46 BigIslandVegan hopefully
20:48.49 Twingy all I know how to make is sphere's
20:48.52 brlcad BigIslandVegan: suggest going through the mged tutorial series (available on the website) if you haven't started yet
20:48.55 BigIslandVegan I will explore it a big
20:48.59 Twingy I think dwayne is the arb8 specialist
20:49.15 BigIslandVegan that is the pdf file on mged that i mentioned earlier, right?
20:49.35 brlcad BigIslandVegan: in the mged command window type: opendb /usr/brlcad/share/brlcad/7.6.0/db/havoc.g
20:49.41 brlcad e havoc
20:49.46 brlcad rt -F/dev/Xl
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20:50.00 brlcad BigIslandVegan: yes
20:50.33 Linux_User hi
20:51.02 Linux_User i canr intall the brlcad in my linux i cant find the scripit for instalation
20:51.23 Linux_User *i cant install the brlcad in my linux i cant find the scripit for instalation- sorry for bad english
20:51.31 Linux_User someone can helpe me?
20:52.00 BigIslandVegan brlcad: I typed the firt line ending in havoc.g and got "Error invalid command name..."
20:52.07 BigIslandVegan firt - first
20:52.31 ``Erik BigIslandVegan: the big grey window that popped up when you ran mged, not the xterm
20:52.38 BigIslandVegan yes, that's what i used
20:53.05 BigIslandVegan the MGED 7.6.0 Command Window (id-0), etc
20:53.24 brlcad Linux_User: which download are you trying to install? binary or source?
20:53.47 brlcad BigIslandVegan: that command goes into mged, not into xterm
20:53.52 Linux_User source of source page
20:53.55 Linux_User ops source forge i download from here
20:53.58 brlcad Linux_User: and you compiled?
20:54.09 BigIslandVegan yes, i typed that command into the MGED command window, grey one
20:54.21 brlcad "opendb"
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20:54.47 BigIslandVegan opendb by itself
20:54.47 MikeC1 Hi
20:54.51 MikeC1 Twingy you there?
20:54.52 brlcad howdy bub
20:54.59 brlcad BigIslandVegan: sure
20:55.09 brlcad BigIslandVegan: either by itself of with the path after it
20:55.09 Twingy sorta
20:55.15 MikeC1 brlcad: Im trying to compile adrt
20:55.34 brlcad Twingy: "W" was looking for you but said she'll talk to you Tuesday
20:55.53 Twingy okie
20:55.55 Linux_User brlcad: copiled i extracted and i didint find the script how i copile?
20:55.59 MikeC1 brlcad: and i am running autocnf to generate the necessary conf files but it says there is a missing required file config.guess and config.sub
20:56.16 MikeC1 brlcad: actually automake
20:56.30 BigIslandVegan READ ONLY BRL_GSI Paris Air Show Soviet HAVOC Helicopter, etc
20:56.32 brlcad Linux_User: run ./autogen.sh for starters then ./configure
20:56.40 brlcad BigIslandVegan: that's good
20:56.55 BigIslandVegan what did that command do?
20:56.55 brlcad BigIslandVegan: now 'e havoc'
20:57.10 brlcad BigIslandVegan: you just opened a sample geometry database that was part of the install
20:57.16 BigIslandVegan done
20:57.38 brlcad 'e havoc' means edit the havoc object, which happens to be something mildly interesting
20:58.13 brlcad MikeC1: run autogen.sh instead of the steps manually
20:58.48 MikeC1 brlcad: ok so cd src/adrt; ../autogen.sh; ?
20:58.55 BigIslandVegan I see a wireframe helicopter
20:59.03 BigIslandVegan greem amd greu
20:59.13 BigIslandVegan green
20:59.19 brlcad MikeC1: no, at the top-level
20:59.27 MikeC1 brlcad: I did that already
20:59.29 brlcad BigIslandVegan: that's a start
20:59.37 brlcad MikeC1: and it succeeded or failed?
20:59.46 MikeC1 succeeded and I did a make after that
20:59.54 brlcad BigIslandVegan: File->Raytrace 
20:59.55 MikeC1 and after installation I did not see the adrt binary
21:00.04 brlcad MikeC1: after autogen.sh you have to run configure
21:00.12 MikeC1 brlcad: Yes I did that too
21:00.16 Linux_User brlcad: where is the floder where i musth do this?
21:00.26 MikeC1 brlcad: sh autogen.sh; ./configure; make; make install;
21:00.27 BigIslandVegan i see the raytrace control panel
21:00.31 brlcad MikeC1: did the configure summary say adrt was enabled?
21:00.37 MikeC1 brlcad: yes
21:00.51 brlcad MikeC1: then you cd'd to src/adrt
21:00.57 brlcad ?
21:01.07 brlcad BigIslandVegan: hit the raytrace button ;)
21:01.17 MikeC1 brlcad: well before I ran autogen.sh I cd'd into adrt and I thought I could build adrt by itself
21:01.28 MikeC1 brlcad: I tried running autoconf, automake etc and faield
21:01.37 MikeC1 brlcad: then i went to the top level and found autogen.sh
21:01.45 MikeC1 brlcad: I ran that and it did say adrt was enabled
21:02.02 MikeC1 brlcad: did a configure and make and make isntall and looked in the installation directory
21:02.07 MikeC1 brlcad: and did not find the adrt birnary
21:02.09 brlcad BigIslandVegan: to hide the wireframe, you can select Framebuffer -> Underlay/Overlay to hide/unhide
21:02.25 MikeC1 brlcad: the adrt libraries are not in the installation lib directory either
21:02.40 brlcad MikeC1: there is no 'adrt' binary.. it's a collection of binaries like 'isst_observer'
21:02.52 BigIslandVegan I see, hmm
21:02.58 BigIslandVegan neato
21:03.17 MikeC1 brlcad: i dont see an isst_observer in the bin installation directory
21:03.24 brlcad BigIslandVegan: not incredibly purdy, but slightly more interesting than most of the other "freebies" that get installed
21:03.44 brlcad MikeC1: cd to src/adrt and make .. what does it say/do?
21:04.18 ``Erik I d'no, sphereflake is kinda nifty... m35 is ok... moss world is a pretty normal looking 'first raytrace demo'
21:04.50 MikeC1 brlcad: it is going through configure right now
21:04.52 brlcad dunno why
21:05.06 brlcad MikeC1: okay, that means you did something out of order ;)
21:05.17 MikeC1 brlcad: ok Im going to start over
21:05.25 brlcad it should be fine to let it finish
21:05.42 BigIslandVegan what i would like to do is digitally represent a housing project I have in my mind, using ~30' diameter steel reinforced concrete domes arranged in close proximity, surrounded by a retaining wall, the domes would be covered with soil, each dome would have a cupola sticking above the soil. You think brl-cad would be good or should I try to learn blender instead? I'm new to both
21:06.29 brlcad BigIslandVegan: it depends on what your intent of the modeling is -- if it's just to make some pictures, blender will probably be better
21:06.57 brlcad if it's to perform any sort of analysis, compute values/weights, etc, brl-cad should be better
21:06.59 BigIslandVegan raytrace complete
21:07.06 brlcad both are going to have a steep learning curve
21:07.18 Linux_User brlcad i cant find the autogen please reply me where is it?
21:07.19 BigIslandVegan i figured that last part to be true
21:07.37 brlcad Linux_User: autogen.sh .. it's at the top level ./autogen.sh
21:08.11 MikeC1 brlcad: also I got the source from CVS
21:08.15 Linux_User brl cad in usr ?
21:08.31 Linux_User where is the past of it?
21:08.33 brlcad Linux_User: you said you downloaded source not binary, right?
21:08.39 brlcad Linux_User: hablas español?
21:08.57 Linux_User i downlloaded the file of source forge .net
21:09.02 Linux_User si
21:09.06 brlcad Linux_User: brl-cad installs into /usr/brlcad by default, you'd have to add /usr/brlcad/bin to your path
21:09.33 Linux_User how i didi it?
21:09.37 Linux_User como eu faco isso?:
21:09.56 brlcad Linux_User: si prefieres, escribame en español y te contesto en ingles o español
21:10.34 BigIslandVegan oh wow, multilingual even :-o
21:11.07 BigIslandVegan Thanks``Erik and brlcad, very much!
21:11.21 brlcad BigIslandVegan: you're quite welcome, happy modeling
21:11.28 BigIslandVegan ;_)
21:11.51 brlcad Linux_User: ls -lad /usr/brlcad tienes algo alli?
21:12.11 MikeC1 brlcad: is there a repository of .g files somwhere other than the ones that come from share/db?
21:13.03 Linux_User brlcad: oly pastes the bin include man and share
21:13.04 brlcad MikeC1: there are many repositories, though most are restricted distribution or only available to certain groups for a fee or not available without a clearance..etc
21:13.20 Linux_User and lib too
21:13.38 brlcad Linux_User: so it sounds like it's installed.. which is good
21:13.56 brlcad Linux_User: run "export PATH=/usr/brlcad/bin:$PATH" si usas bash/sh
21:14.11 brlcad and then "mged"
21:16.32 pra5ad ``Erik, if i go with DEBUG(asd << asd << asd); ... can i do multiline << operations?
21:16.34 brlcad MikeC1: I've been trying to get the air force to release a couple tank models to me for inclusion, that will be very nice if/when it happens
21:16.50 ``Erik yes
21:16.52 MikeC1 brlcad: that would be cool
21:16.52 brlcad heh
21:17.08 ``Erik gcc -E will show you what it does
21:17.26 MikeC1 brlcad: it seems isst_observer or any other supporting adrt things are not part of the 7.6.0 linux binary distribution?
21:17.34 brlcad very cool, one in particular is the T72, beautiful and externally detailed model
21:18.01 brlcad MikeC1: that is correct, not included by default in the binary distributions
21:18.21 MikeC1 brlcad: understoof
21:18.24 MikeC1 brlcad: understood*
21:18.36 Linux_User brlcad: eu escrvi e dei enter mas nada se passou
21:18.43 brlcad adrt makes use of a couple external resources that aren't included/includable, so adrt ends up getting disabled during configure
21:18.54 pra5ad DEBUG(asd <<
21:18.56 pra5ad asd);
21:19.00 pra5ad should work fine?
21:19.06 Linux_User era apra ter usado o comado onde?
21:19.10 ``Erik yes, prasad...
21:19.13 brlcad Linux_User: cuando escribes el export o mged?
21:19.20 pra5ad hrm
21:20.34 brlcad Linux_User: solo escribe el export una vez.. despuez escribe mged
21:22.29 brlcad Linux_User: type "/usr/brlcad/bin/rt" .. what does it say? command not found? or a usage message about BRL-CAD?
21:24.07 AchiestDragon what about user submitted .g files for inclusion as examples , shurely there must be someone with some
21:24.35 brlcad AchiestDragon: I'd happily include new ones if/when people provide them
21:24.35 MikeC1 brlcad: I deleted my brlcad build and installation directories, checked out code from CVS, ran sh autogen.sh, ran ./configure and it says adrt is enabled, is there anything I can look for in the src/adrt directory to verify that adrt will be built?
21:24.49 ``Erik pra5ad: http://smluc.org/~erik/nuts.cc (for shits and giggles, hit it with g++ -E nuts.cc | tail -n 20)
21:25.36 Linux_User brlcad: i dont find rt
21:26.08 Linux_User no such a file or directori
21:26.41 brlcad MikeC1: just compilation success, no errors -- run make and then ls -la src/adrt/isst/observer/isst_observer
21:26.51 MikeC1 ok
21:27.20 MikeC1 im building the debug version of brlcad
21:27.39 brlcad Linux_User: hmmm .. that means you didn't install fully or correctly
21:28.03 brlcad Linux_User: you downloaded the source or binary distribution?
21:28.28 brlcad MikeC1: that should be fine, just to make sure everything works
21:29.58 Linux_User i will downladed the compressed file of souceforge.net version 7.6.0
21:30.16 Linux_User i dont know if this is binary or source
21:30.33 brlcad what's the name of what you downloaded?
21:30.49 brlcad the file
21:32.42 AchiestDragon well into day 4 or 5 of the render of m35.g here , lost count , still no percentage indication shown
21:33.03 MikeC1 Achiest are you rendering an animation?
21:33.24 Linux_User <PROTECTED>
21:34.44 AchiestDragon no single frame , photonmap , with lots of photons 4194304
21:35.18 brlcad Linux_User: that's a binary distribution
21:35.37 Linux_User ok and now waht i do?
21:35.59 brlcad Linux_User: you unzipped and untarred?
21:39.12 AchiestDragon and cpu still trickleing at 25% usage ,
21:39.48 Linux_User unziped yes untarred... waht is untarred?
21:40.28 brlcad bunzip2 brlcad-7.6.0_linux_ia32.tar.bz2
21:40.34 brlcad tar xvf brlcad-7.6.0_linux_ia32.tar
21:40.49 brlcad sudo cp -R usr/brlcad /usr/.
21:41.09 AchiestDragon question does the raytracer have a throttle back function that would allow me to set the max percentage total cou usage, would be usefull on some machines where the cooling is not up to 100% cpu for more than a hr or so
21:41.36 brlcad AchiestDragon: with that many photons, I doubt it will finish for weeks .. not worth it
21:42.10 brlcad AchiestDragon: by default, rt renices itself so that it doesn't take over the system's performance
21:42.38 Linux_User yes it is in the paste user now
21:42.50 AchiestDragon well ether it finishes before archer for linux is in cvs or it gets stoped while i cvs up
21:42.58 brlcad Linux_User: no errors?
21:43.21 brlcad AchiestDragon: yeah, archer for linux will be available before that finishes :)
21:44.19 Linux_User nao mas o atrquivo configure e autogen nao constavam aonde deviam estar nem no zip file
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21:44.28 Linux_User i am redonwloading it
21:45.30 brlcad Linux_User: there is no configure/autogen.sh.. that's a binary distribution that is just ready to use
21:45.41 AchiestDragon was reading some grid computer forums , the grid software used any spare cpu capacaty (same way as brlcad does) , but there was concern that some systems (especialy over clocked ones) tended to overheat and run the risk of burning out the cpu
21:45.59 Linux_User how i execute the progam
21:45.59 Linux_User ?
21:46.08 brlcad Linux_User: try /usr/brlcad/bin/rt again
21:46.58 Linux_User no such a valid file or directori
21:47.02 Linux_User i donwloaded this now brlcad-7.6.0_linux_ia32.tar.bz2
21:47.26 Linux_User im extracting
21:47.34 AchiestDragon so it was sugested that thay include a max continuous percentage usage , so the cpu could run continuously at 70%
21:49.13 AchiestDragon only realy affects some sytems where the cooling on alot of desktops and laptops is only rated for a constant 70 to 75% cpu ,laptops are worse , alot worse
21:50.06 Linux_User man its very low the extract
21:51.04 brlcad ls -la /usr/brlcad what does it show?
21:51.31 brlcad AchiestDragon: one might say those are fundamentally flawed systems ;)
21:51.45 AchiestDragon yes aggrees
21:52.30 AchiestDragon but lots of people have them , and most dont know about it
21:52.30 Linux_User bin include man lib share
21:52.46 brlcad I don't see a reason to not accept a cpu throttling patch to the tracers, but I don't think I'll be writing it until I have a massive cluster that requires it at my disposal ;)
21:52.59 brlcad Linux_User: ls -la /usr/brlcad/bin/rt*
21:54.32 AchiestDragon may be worth a note about the 100% usage in the documentation and that the system cooling should be up to it
21:55.07 Linux_User no such a valide file or directori
21:55.21 Linux_User i m redonwloading this file brlcad-7.6.0_linux_ia32.tar.g
21:55.50 Linux_User myu conection its hight speed
21:56.06 Linux_User but i cant fint this rt
21:56.11 Linux_User in bin
21:56.35 AchiestDragon or you may get the following bug reports from some users :- works fine but when doing a long trace the system crashes after XX hrs
21:56.45 Linux_User ops
21:56.46 Linux_User i find
21:57.30 brlcad Linux_User: ls -la /usr/brlcad/bin .. just what is in there?
21:57.51 Linux_User very much executable files
21:58.02 Linux_User i find rt in grafic mode but i can run it
21:58.14 brlcad Linux_User: you mean mged works?
21:58.36 Linux_User i dont know aht is mged?
21:58.39 brlcad ls -la /usr/brlcad/bin/m*
21:58.52 brlcad mged is the primary modeler application
22:00.26 Linux_User i cant find mged
22:00.43 Linux_User no its here butt dont start
22:00.49 Linux_User how i star the program?
22:02.19 Linux_User i find mged and rt but they dont start when i clic in they how i start the program?
22:02.39 brlcad Linux_User: you start them on the command line
22:02.46 brlcad export PATH=/usr/brlcad/bin:$PATH
22:02.47 brlcad mged
22:03.49 Linux_User comand not found
22:04.09 Linux_User i tip export like you mean and tipo mged and the console said comand not found
22:05.01 brlcad what shell do you use?
22:05.08 brlcad bash, tcsh, zsh?
22:05.11 Linux_User kurumin
22:05.25 Linux_User kde
22:06.04 brlcad that's the distribution.. and the gui.. what's the command line?
22:06.18 brlcad type: echo $SHELL
22:07.04 Linux_User is /bin/bash
22:07.34 brlcad then something isn't adding up with what you're telling me
22:08.00 brlcad if there are lots of executables in /usr/brlcad/bin, there should be an rt and mged minimally
22:08.27 Linux_User i type shenm and aperare it: /bin/bash
22:08.29 brlcad if you can find them through kde yet cannot on the command line, it sounds like you might not be using the command line correctly.. ?
22:09.13 Linux_User i use the grafic mode to execute ant he dont work too
22:09.35 brlcad that won't work
22:09.50 brlcad but the fact that you find them in graphic mode yet cannot on the command line is wrong
22:09.58 Linux_User there are very much executables in bin i tiped export PATH=/usr/brlcad/bin:$PATH 10 times and PATH=/usr/brlcad/bin:$PATH 5 time and wont work
22:10.13 brlcad echo $PATH
22:10.16 Linux_User yes sorry for english you speak portuguese?
22:10.22 brlcad I wish I did :)
22:10.40 brlcad I can understand it usually, but cannot write/speak
22:11.23 brlcad echo $PATH
22:11.25 Linux_User ok look eu escrevi echo $PATH e apareceu muitas coisas
22:11.38 brlcad paste them here
22:11.42 Linux_User usr/brlcad/bin:usr/brlcad/bin:/usr/brlcad/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/games
22:11.46 Linux_User is this
22:12.01 brlcad okay, that's good
22:12.31 brlcad the first two are wrong.. missing the "/" in front of usr, but the third is right so you should be fine.. :)
22:12.48 brlcad that's all of it?
22:12.52 MikeC1 brlcad: I jsut finished a make and I do not see a src/adrt/isst/observer/isst_observer
22:13.25 brlcad MikeC1: did you get any error after make?
22:13.25 Linux_User usr/brlcad/bin:usr/brlcad/bin:/usr/brlcad/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/games
22:13.31 Linux_User yes it is all of it
22:13.38 brlcad Linux_User: okay, good
22:13.47 Linux_User therea re not hte / in the frist usr
22:13.47 brlcad Linux_User: type: which brlman
22:13.52 MikeC1 brlcad: make continue all the way through and did not stop if there was an error
22:14.07 brlcad MikeC1: what version are you working with?
22:14.18 MikeC1 BRL-CAD Release 7.6.1, Build 20051007
22:14.20 Linux_User i tiped now?
22:14.21 MikeC1 downloaded from CVS
22:14.42 brlcad Linux_User: yes, type "which brlman" .. what does it say?
22:14.50 brlcad MikeC1: ah, okay, should be good
22:14.58 brlcad MikeC1: so now cd src/adrt and make
22:15.15 brlcad copy-paste the output to pastebin
22:15.19 Linux_User nothing its like pat olni jump one line
22:15.28 brlcad Linux_User: okay.. hrmm
22:15.37 MikeC1 brlcad: it is compiling now
22:18.45 Linux_User man thanks for help if you find the solution for me send for acheicaleb@gmail.com i must go now tanks
22:19.06 brlcad Linux_User: okay, sorry I'm not sure what's going on in your situation
22:19.11 brlcad like it's untarring wrong
22:21.25 Linux_User n this case send me the link where i find a diferent version
22:22.12 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: oh yeah, twingy disabled ADRT permanently, though I forget why. re-enable it.
22:22.19 brlcad MikeC1: I forget exactly why, but adrt was disabled even though it says it wasn't
22:22.27 MikeC1 brlcad: oh ok
22:22.37 brlcad cd'ing to the directory is a simple workaround though (or editing configure.ac
22:22.42 MikeC1 brlcad: I'm having a python issue, im going to fix that
22:22.55 MikeC1 brlcad: yea thanks at least i can get it to compile to some level now
22:23.39 brlcad MikeC1: k, you might have to edit the Makefile.am's to get the build to complete correctly, or pass CFLAGS/LDFLAGS etc (make CFLAGS="...")
22:23.47 pra5ad ``Erik, whats the easiest way in sh script to traverse a dir tree
22:23.52 MikeC1 brlcad: understood
22:23.55 brlcad pra5ad: find
22:24.20 pra5ad the captured output is in array form?
22:25.04 brlcad pra5ad: sudo find /tmp -type f -exec rm -rf {} \;
22:25.28 brlcad pra5ad: what are you trying to do?
22:25.47 brlcad find is the tool regardless .. it can output file/dir lists or run commands on files/dirs recursively
22:25.55 pra5ad run anything with _test in the directory tree + wait for user input between each exec
22:28.28 brlcad wait for user input?
22:28.35 brlcad what sort of waiting?
22:29.15 pra5ad <press c to quit; any key to continue>
22:29.20 pra5ad something like that
22:29.52 brlcad ahh, you'll probably want to script the sucker then
22:30.06 pra5ad yea
22:30.12 brlcad echo "read blah" > wait
22:30.13 pra5ad trying to figure out the dir traversal
22:30.20 brlcad otherwise something like: find dir_tree -name \*_test -exec echo "ready to run {}" \; -exec sh wait \; -exec {} \;
22:31.04 brlcad files="`find dir_tree -name \*_test`"
22:31.16 brlcad for file in $files ; do
22:31.27 brlcad echo "<press c to quit; any key to continue>"
22:31.34 brlcad read quit
22:32.08 brlcad [ "x$quit" = "xc" ] && exit 0
22:32.11 brlcad $file
22:32.12 brlcad done
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