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| 02:26.07 | pra5ad | what a horrible exam |
| 03:11.13 | brlcad | was the laplacian on it? :) |
| 03:25.24 | pra5ad | nope |
| 03:25.40 | pra5ad | fourier and hough were there |
| 03:26.03 | brlcad | heh, wierd |
| 03:26.16 | pra5ad | first page, 2nd question |
| 03:26.24 | pra5ad | 'explain what causes invariant moments' |
| 03:26.30 | pra5ad | me: uhhh.. wtf is that |
| 03:28.44 | joevalleyfield | so what does cause invariant moments? |
| 03:28.53 | pra5ad | beats me :) |
| 03:29.15 | pra5ad | i went to baltimore and drowned my sorrows with beer |
| 03:29.25 | joevalleyfield | :) |
| 03:29.48 | joevalleyfield | is it shepards class? |
| 03:30.01 | pra5ad | no |
| 03:30.15 | pra5ad | he doesnt teach image processing |
| 03:30.33 | pra5ad | 'el tony' is teaching robotics w/ machine vision next semester |
| 03:34.41 | pra5ad | i didnt realize capt. morgan's costume was so damn complicated |
| 03:34.44 | pra5ad | damned* |
| 03:34.54 | pra5ad | ill have to pick another one :( |
| 03:39.49 | joevalleyfield | google knows what an invariant moment is, but not what makes them pop up |
| 03:40.15 | Twingy | it's when the moment becomes invariant |
| 03:40.26 | Twingy | that was an invariant moment |
| 03:40.52 | Twingy | plus alot of funky math symbols |
| 03:41.05 | joevalleyfield | you agree with google |
| 03:42.16 | pra5ad | i prolly misquoted the problem |
| 03:42.26 | pra5ad | my ram has been flushed already |
| 03:42.46 | Twingy | good |
| 03:42.50 | Twingy | you can help me build a forge |
| 03:42.55 | pra5ad | ? |
| 03:43.00 | Twingy | for melting aluminum |
| 03:43.07 | pra5ad | good night |
| 03:44.41 | pra5ad | excellent |
| 03:44.50 | pra5ad | u can clear out our recycling bin |
| 03:44.53 | pra5ad | in my office |
| 03:45.02 | Twingy | *nod* |
| 03:45.14 | Twingy | is it the big one? |
| 03:45.17 | pra5ad | no |
| 03:45.19 | Twingy | aww |
| 03:45.21 | Twingy | they took it |
| 03:45.32 | Twingy | I'll have to pillage the recycling guys truck |
| 03:45.45 | pra5ad | u need to build the forge next to the fridge |
| 03:46.14 | Twingy | as the fire marshal, I must say, I like your thinking |
| 03:46.20 | pra5ad | omg |
| 03:46.25 | pra5ad | wendy put u in charge |
| 03:46.27 | pra5ad | i forgot |
| 03:46.28 | pra5ad | lmao |
| 03:46.30 | Twingy | :) |
| 03:46.44 | Twingy | <insert sinister laugh here> |
| 03:47.02 | pra5ad | hmm red playa costume at walmart |
| 03:47.07 | pra5ad | that'll have to do i guess |
| 03:48.43 | Twingy | hrm |
| 03:48.48 | Twingy | I think I'll weld a crucible first |
| 03:49.01 | pra5ad | mm crucibles |
| 03:49.06 | pra5ad | i remember those from chem class |
| 03:55.18 | ``Erik | heh |
| 03:55.37 | ``Erik | didn't the romans crucible people? o.O |
| 03:55.53 | ``Erik | and sir francis drake circumcised the world with a 60' clipper |
| 03:59.57 | Twingy | In the latest poll, 55 percent of the respondents said that they would vote for the Democratic candidate if Bush were again running for the presidency this year. |
| 04:00.06 | Twingy | I'm surprised it's not more |
| 04:00.33 | joevalleyfield | and how is that different than the 2004 exit polls?? |
| 04:00.48 | Twingy | so that basically means 45% of americans are beyond the capacity to do trivial thinking |
| 04:03.43 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/librt/wdb_obj.c: rework the 'tol' tolerance command to not allow any negative tolerances. also auto-handle the case where an absolute tesselation tolerance was requested at a level less than the calculation distance tolerance. |
| 04:04.43 | ``Erik | I'm sure that more than 45% of americans (and more than 45% of the world) is incapable of trivial thought o.O |
| 04:05.10 | pra5ad | "Half the world is composed of idiots, the other half of people clever enough to take indecent advantage of them" - Walter Kerr |
| 04:05.48 | ``Erik | aw, DAMNIT |
| 04:05.56 | Twingy | :D |
| 04:06.16 | Twingy | he's drunk, he won't care |
| 04:06.30 | Twingy | Remote Control for Humans? |
| 04:06.54 | Twingy | sounds like that thing at siggraph |
| 04:08.20 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: improved mged 'tol' command tolerance value checks |
| 04:08.22 | pra5ad | "An idea that is developed and put into action is more important than an idea that exists only as an idea." |
| 04:08.34 | pra5ad | aw snap |
| 04:08.35 | Twingy | indeed |
| 04:08.38 | pra5ad | my costume: lil john |
| 04:08.41 | pra5ad | OKAAAAY |
| 04:08.47 | ``Erik | WHAT? |
| 04:08.51 | pra5ad | now to find some dreads |
| 04:09.01 | pra5ad | and a football jersey |
| 04:09.08 | ``Erik | and a hugeassed goblet |
| 04:09.11 | ``Erik | and diamond grill |
| 04:09.12 | ``Erik | yo |
| 04:09.15 | pra5ad | and a pimp cup |
| 04:09.33 | ``Erik | you should go as 'drunk' |
| 04:09.37 | Twingy | pra5ad: who's the quote by? |
| 04:09.47 | pra5ad | buddha |
| 04:09.51 | pra5ad | =) |
| 04:09.52 | pra5ad | http://en.thinkexist.com/quotation/an_idea_that_is_developed_and_put_into_action_is/200794.html |
| 04:09.56 | ``Erik | buddha was not a mathematician, obviously |
| 04:09.57 | joevalleyfield | developed and checked into cvs |
| 04:10.45 | ``Erik | buddha obviously didn't do java code o.O :D *duck* |
| 04:11.27 | pra5ad | "You cannot travel the path until you have become the path itself" - justin has become (a) diva |
| 04:11.42 | Twingy | O.o |
| 04:12.04 | ``Erik | ... justin's a diva? ... I've become enlightened |
| 04:12.21 | Twingy | damnit |
| 04:12.22 | Twingy | bricks |
| 04:12.26 | Twingy | I wanna build a forge again |
| 04:12.29 | Twingy | >_< |
| 04:12.45 | ``Erik | heh |
| 04:12.49 | ``Erik | I can just see it now |
| 04:12.51 | Twingy | I need to contaminate my yard one last time |
| 04:12.58 | pra5ad | "Good ideas are common - what's uncommon are people who'll work hard enough to bring them about" |
| 04:13.01 | ``Erik | your neighbor is wandering around wondering where all their landscaping bricks went |
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| 04:13.17 | Twingy | sounds like me and this buddha guy would get along |
| 04:13.27 | Twingy | hehehe |
| 04:13.32 | Twingy | I'm out of propane though |
| 04:13.38 | Twingy | so I'd have to borrow their propane too |
| 04:14.17 | pra5ad | how exactly are u making the crucible? |
| 04:14.19 | pra5ad | or are u buying one |
| 04:14.26 | Twingy | gonna make one outta steel |
| 04:14.32 | Twingy | and weld a handle onto it |
| 04:14.41 | Twingy | probly 1 meter long |
| 04:15.15 | ``Erik | man, this greenfield shit is fucked up |
| 04:15.24 | Twingy | so'z it can hold about 64 cm^3 of aluminum |
| 04:15.31 | pra5ad | what are the melting points of steel and alum? |
| 04:15.37 | Twingy | high and low |
| 04:15.42 | pra5ad | ? |
| 04:16.03 | Twingy | ~1500 to 650 |
| 04:16.05 | ibot | inf |
| 04:16.16 | Twingy | ~1500 to 1600 |
| 04:16.18 | ibot | inf |
| 04:16.22 | Twingy | ~inf to NaN |
| 04:16.31 | Twingy | haha, crashed it |
| 04:16.32 | Twingy | fucker |
| 04:16.43 | pra5ad | ceramic is too hard? |
| 04:16.52 | Twingy | cermic is not very weldable o.O |
| 04:17.02 | pra5ad | :( |
| 04:17.54 | Twingy | more than likely I'll buy a large diameter pipe |
| 04:18.01 | Twingy | cut a V into the lip |
| 04:18.23 | Twingy | and weld on a V lip |
| 04:18.42 | Twingy | at 90 degree to the handle |
| 04:18.48 | Twingy | then I can just rotate it into the casting |
| 04:20.34 | Twingy | I'm thinking we might be able to build some of the parts for the bot out of the aluminum |
| 04:20.42 | Twingy | like internals and stuff |
| 04:20.53 | Twingy | to save the pricey steel for armor |
| 04:21.01 | Twingy | plus keeping the bot as light as possible |
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| 04:22.35 | pra5ad | what? we're not using chobum for armor? |
| 04:22.54 | Twingy | hey |
| 04:22.59 | Twingy | if you make it... |
| 04:23.05 | Twingy | I'll even settle for titanium |
| 04:23.52 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/lib/TableView.tcl: merge rel-7-6-branch to HEAD. |
| 04:24.10 | pra5ad | i thought u had access to a scrapped challenger mkII |
| 04:24.32 | Twingy | hrm |
| 04:24.44 | Twingy | too bad we can't rummage through stuff at the range |
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| 10:46.29 | AchiestDragon | Twingy: if you want someting like that you should look at http://www.milweb.net/index2.html |
| 10:46.48 | AchiestDragon | theres other places that do the same sort of thing also |
| 10:53.10 | AchiestDragon | as to recycleing cans , the problem you will have with a furnice is that the aluminum cans tend to evaporate as the aluminium is too thin , you will need to get lots and compress them into blocks |
| 10:53.22 | AchiestDragon | like a car crusher does |
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| 14:01.55 | ``Erik | (and I'm grinning because I went through that after the network outage) |
| 14:02.26 | Twingy_ | *shrug* I got all me proggie source, I I think all I had in that directory was and old checkout of brlcad |
| 14:03.23 | ``Erik | then why bother? |
| 14:03.43 | Twingy_ | dunno if there was something else there I'm nothinking of |
| 14:04.03 | Twingy_ | I'll be awake in about 4 hours |
| 14:04.07 | Twingy_ | ask me then :) |
| 14:06.19 | ``Erik | mmm, donuts |
| 14:07.12 | Twingy_ | mmm, torus |
| 14:07.27 | archivist_ | hmm dunkin donuts, a good excuse to come to america |
| 14:10.17 | ``Erik | ew |
| 14:11.56 | ``Erik | uh oh, mike g is talking to someone about adrt |
| 14:14.53 | Twingy_ | I guess it's time to rename it again |
| 14:14.58 | ``Erik | meh, some software got deinstalled, that was the issue :( |
| 14:26.02 | Twingy_ | cool 1% done |
| 14:26.21 | ``Erik | woohoo |
| 14:26.31 | ``Erik | by crunching the numbers? or are you using bar? |
| 14:49.57 | Twingy_ | 12 of 833 GB |
| 14:50.25 | Twingy_ | this will take about a week? |
| 14:51.54 | ``Erik | uhmmmmm |
| 14:52.05 | ``Erik | 883 gb compressed, and you have 12 uncompressed gigs out of it? |
| 14:52.14 | Twingy_ | yah |
| 14:52.16 | ``Erik | (the final file should be more like 1.6tb I think) |
| 14:52.22 | Twingy_ | ah |
| 14:52.26 | Twingy_ | so 2 weeks |
| 14:52.34 | ``Erik | yeah |
| 14:52.40 | ``Erik | took about a month to compress I think |
| 14:52.45 | Twingy_ | k |
| 14:52.54 | Twingy_ | that's non-optimal back up |
| 14:53.03 | ``Erik | (you're not using bunzip2 in a way that'll unlink the compressed file, are you?) |
| 14:53.04 | ``Erik | I know |
| 14:53.13 | Twingy_ | I typed bunzip2 file |
| 14:53.20 | ``Erik | I'm not sure what'd be better... I'm tempted to use gzip instead, it's quicker |
| 14:53.27 | ``Erik | uhmmmm, that's destructive |
| 14:53.42 | Twingy_ | you wanna do it then? |
| 14:53.55 | ``Erik | the decompression? sure *shurg* |
| 14:53.58 | Twingy_ | you setup the backup doohicky |
| 14:54.04 | Twingy_ | okay, I'll cancel |
| 14:54.22 | Twingy_ | canceled |
| 14:57.53 | Twingy_ | I'm thinking that if bill lost a file |
| 14:58.00 | Twingy_ | he'd not be so flexible with 2 weeks to get it |
| 15:00.00 | ``Erik | well, if he 'lost a file', it'd take a day or two, because we could do a partial recovery on just the .2 or .3 file |
| 15:00.10 | Twingy_ | ah |
| 15:00.22 | Twingy_ | even the .2's are kind ahefty |
| 15:00.33 | ``Erik | losting a whole directory, however, is... rough |
| 15:01.02 | Twingy_ | I'm definetly gonna have a tarball of my stuff made on the weekends |
| 15:01.07 | ``Erik | okie |
| 15:01.19 | Twingy_ | probly over nfs on my local box |
| 15:01.33 | ``Erik | because of how big the file system is, there is no such thing as a "fast" recovery :( |
| 15:01.45 | Twingy_ | for a file system, sure |
| 15:02.10 | Twingy_ | I think the whole level N backuping is overkill *shrug* |
| 15:02.33 | Twingy_ | 99% of the time the person lost something and they want it back |
| 15:03.32 | ``Erik | the N level is to make things fast and use less space |
| 15:04.02 | Twingy_ | all the n's combined uses alot more space than just making a tarball of everyone's junk on the weekends *shrug* |
| 15:04.12 | ``Erik | um |
| 15:04.28 | Twingy_ | plus we wouldn't have to use compression, which is the big killer |
| 15:04.28 | ``Erik | our total consumption is like 2.5tb? weekend #2 would blow by that |
| 15:04.43 | Twingy_ | I'm talking about 1 file per person |
| 15:04.52 | ``Erik | weekend number 2 without compression would put us over 3tb |
| 15:04.57 | Twingy_ | no weekend #2 |
| 15:05.00 | ``Erik | yeah, but we'd have a bunch of big files |
| 15:05.07 | Twingy_ | huh? |
| 15:05.12 | Twingy_ | no bigger than what we got now |
| 15:05.18 | Twingy_ | my directory is like 70GB |
| 15:05.25 | ``Erik | heh, mines not |
| 15:05.29 | Twingy_ | I'd have a 70GB tarball of my directory as old as "last weekend" |
| 15:05.43 | Twingy_ | take 10 minutes to uncompress |
| 15:05.48 | Twingy_ | err |
| 15:05.49 | Twingy_ | untar |
| 15:05.59 | Twingy_ | instead of 2 weeks |
| 15:06.08 | ``Erik | mebbe, but if you wrote a file on monday, and whacked it this morning? |
| 15:06.09 | ``Erik | :) |
| 15:06.15 | Twingy_ | I'd have something |
| 15:06.32 | Twingy_ | losing 1 day of work is moot |
| 15:06.39 | joevalleyfield | how about no compression and no tarballs |
| 15:06.41 | Twingy_ | losing 2 years of work is not |
| 15:06.46 | ``Erik | o.O |
| 15:06.53 | joevalleyfield | google rsync backup |
| 15:06.58 | ``Erik | uhhhh |
| 15:07.05 | Twingy_ | heh |
| 15:07.10 | Twingy_ | that's terribly amusing |
| 15:07.37 | ``Erik | I'm not about to go through security to have every single file I ever touch or modify marked for public release, sorry |
| 15:07.48 | joevalleyfield | no no |
| 15:07.53 | joevalleyfield | don't rsync to google |
| 15:08.05 | joevalleyfield | lookup "rsync backup" on google |
| 15:08.15 | Twingy_ | we know what rsync is |
| 15:08.19 | joevalleyfield | right |
| 15:08.26 | Twingy_ | I implemented an rsync backup years ago |
| 15:08.38 | Twingy_ | 'sides |
| 15:08.40 | joevalleyfield | so why the need for tarballs? |
| 15:08.45 | Twingy_ | lee is the one that wants this incremental junk |
| 15:08.50 | Twingy_ | because "it's the way we've done things" |
| 15:09.01 | Twingy_ | and clearly the "wahy we've done things" is the best way |
| 15:09.05 | ``Erik | dump/restore has some advantages |
| 15:09.11 | Twingy_ | otherwise we wouldn't have 80's state of the art software |
| 15:09.13 | Twingy_ | :) |
| 15:09.21 | Twingy_ | yes it does |
| 15:09.21 | ``Erik | heh |
| 15:09.23 | Twingy_ | but I'm just ranting |
| 15:09.56 | ``Erik | because the architects and requirements people only have experience with bad 70's style |
| 15:09.56 | ``Erik | :( |
| 15:09.56 | Twingy_ | I got you beat |
| 15:10.01 | Twingy_ | I'm working on 90's state of the art |
| 15:10.18 | Twingy_ | :P |
| 15:10.52 | ``Erik | we should probably go to get there by 11:30 |
| 15:10.57 | ``Erik | we have to be back by 1 or so |
| 15:11.02 | Twingy_ | for wwhat? |
| 15:11.06 | ``Erik | jasons thing |
| 15:11.10 | ``Erik | and the class thing |
| 15:11.12 | Twingy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.17 | Twingy_ | oh, I'm not gonna go |
| 15:11.23 | Twingy_ | I got too much stuff to get done |
| 15:11.35 | ``Erik | well, lets grab a couple people and go anyways |
| 15:11.47 | Twingy_ | okie |
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| 17:28.36 | brlcad | joevalleyfield: you're added now -- should be able to cvs up read/write now |
| 17:28.46 | joevalleyfield | thanks |
| 17:28.53 | joevalleyfield | thanks |
| 17:29.53 | joevalleyfield | it blows up spectacularly when linked to the aqua tk and trying to play with x |
| 17:29.57 | brlcad | chatty, ain't he :) |
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| 18:35.27 | Twingy_ | http://www.presidentialpetmuseum.com/Movies/Barney2.gif |
| 18:51.13 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: add an enable-automatic-flags option to enable/disable automatically messing with the CFLAGS/CPPFLAGS/LDFLAGS. Useful on systems with different compilers were flags might seem to work when they don't (like aix) |
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| 21:16.18 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/doc/IDEAS: some ideas for new BRL-CAD contributed by yours truely. could use lots of work, but it lets me throw away a piece of scrap paper. |
| 21:31.33 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/doc/IDEAS: formatting, spelling, reference the tasker too |
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| 22:30.58 | pra5ad | HAH |
| 22:31.03 | pra5ad | got last copy of civ 4 |
| 22:31.07 | pra5ad | goodbye life |
| 22:42.57 | Twingy | heh |
| 22:48.46 | Twingy | IT: Does Visual Studio Rot the Brain? |
| 22:54.10 | ``Erik | O.o |
| 22:54.22 | archivist_ | any visual button pressing does |
| 23:02.46 | ``Erik | I saw a button once, but we were able to chase it from our village |
| 23:22.12 | pra5ad | wow the load times are worse than an m3 analysis run |
| 23:25.24 | pra5ad | so this is a python based game |
| 23:32.26 | ``Erik | I doubt slow load times would be because it's a python based game |
| 23:32.37 | ``Erik | slow load times tend to be developer stupidity. |
| 23:40.31 | pra5ad | swapping the whole game out to load the military screen lol |
