irclog2html for #brlcad on 20060105

00:16.22 *** join/#brlcad mahesh (n=mahesh@12-217-228-235.client.mchsi.com)
00:48.49 brlcad it's a "special" optimization pass
00:57.42 ``Erik indeed
00:57.52 ``Erik I solved the 'eating data' bug, but not the 'ignoringn chunks' bug
00:58.14 ``Erik but now I'm busy reading http://philip.greenspun.com/research/software-pricing *sigh*
00:58.21 brlcad better than spewing chunks
01:00.14 brlcad bs article somewhat, i learned photoshop as well as most pros and never touched a manual, barely even slowed me down
01:00.29 brlcad though I might have borrowed from a friend's friend
01:01.15 ``Erik some interesting ideas, some obvious flaws, ... ultimately intractable, but an amusing thought exercise
01:02.10 ``Erik hasta
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12:12.31 Mac- hi there
12:14.51 Mac- anyone works with GraphiteOne CAD ?
13:01.27 brlcad heh, no
13:03.42 *** join/#brlcad AchiestDragon (n=dave@whipy.demon.co.uk)
13:43.14 pra5ad wakka wakka
14:49.32 ``Erik damnit, it's morning again, that keeps happening
14:51.25 archivist dont wake up then
15:03.42 ``Erik <-- already at the office, doesn't trust these fuckers enough to sleep
16:48.52 CIA-15 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/archer/archer: All of archer including the tclscripts is assigned to u.s. government and should be under the LGPL
16:59.39 clock_ is it possible to get free software job working on BRL-CAD?
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17:42.52 brlcad clock_: yes it is
17:43.39 ``Erik 1heh
17:43.46 ``Erik I thought I did, bbbuuutttt
17:43.47 ``Erik :)
17:44.30 brlcad we've been talking about opening contract-style positions for tasks to the community
17:44.42 brlcad a few K for some feature(s)
17:44.59 ``Erik ah
17:45.02 ``Erik bounties
17:45.03 brlcad still considering different mechanisms for doing that
17:45.08 brlcad yep
17:45.17 ``Erik open bounties, or claimed?
17:45.34 brlcad either both, first come first serve, depends
17:46.03 ``Erik I'd hate to work on a feature just to have some kid with no daytime job beat me to it when I'm 95% done
17:46.19 brlcad yeah, that would suck
17:46.32 brlcad not to mention just be inefficient
17:46.43 brlcad there's plenty to do
17:46.44 ``Erik of course, commiting the task to someone who never finishes it would suck, too :)
17:47.14 brlcad there would have to be some higher incentive for completing a claimed task
17:47.50 ``Erik if you talk to lee about it soon, would you mind asking about the viability of m3 devers on claiming those bounties, if it ever happen? :)
17:48.04 brlcad sure
17:48.08 ``Erik thnx
17:49.26 brlcad I can imagine what he'd say, though what would really matter would be to ask someone higher up or better yet someone external that might care (like legal)
17:49.35 brlcad or cpo
17:49.54 ``Erik well, yeah, but he'd be the vehicle for expressing that aspect up the chain
17:50.19 brlcad technically, I don't think there's a conflict of interest like you'd have if it were commercial product contracting that is govt involved
17:50.29 brlcad since this is a free product, and from govt
17:52.42 ``Erik yeah, but *shrug* better to have explicit ok first
17:52.49 ``Erik cya
18:05.14 clock_ brlcad: and is it possible to live in Switzerland and work for US?
18:09.46 brlcad depends who you work for and what sort of job
18:10.47 brlcad for what was just mentioned about contracted tasks/bounties, sure
18:16.46 clock_ hmm but I mean permanent employment
18:21.14 brlcad that's considerably harder
18:21.23 brlcad for many reasons
18:21.56 brlcad not impossible, but the person would have to be proven to be worth it beforehand given the effort it'd take to even try
18:31.43 ``Erik so he runs off, heh
18:31.44 ``Erik :D
18:33.41 joevalleyfield beer
18:33.53 ``Erik give me some
18:33.53 archivist mysql works that way
18:37.31 brlcad mysql works on beer
18:38.58 archivist mysql works on every box i run
18:39.07 joevalleyfield how many run beer?
18:39.35 archivist i wish
18:43.06 archivist feeding coffe to a pc is definately not a good idea (dead mb)
18:43.56 ``Erik my ibook got hung over when I fed it beer
18:44.22 ``Erik (quit working, wouldn't boot, two days later, it was ok)
18:45.57 ``Erik http://www.bsdguru.org/img/inst_po_konferencji_640.jpg o.O
18:46.16 archivist i spent a couple of hours washing my mb waited till it dried still buggered though, damn thing was only a few weeks old, had to get another
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19:15.40 joevalleyfield anyone here embed python?
19:16.03 brlcad minimal exp in bz
19:16.36 joevalleyfield can you point me in a direction for getting the ldflags?
19:17.03 joevalleyfield should i just do a straight-forward lib test like brlcad does for tcl?
19:20.42 brlcad hmm.. that particular bz plugin used scons, but lemme check what it did
19:21.52 brlcad heh, well since scons is already python, it was conveniently on hand via the python interpreter
19:21.58 brlcad python_lib = ['python%d.%d' % sys.version_info[0:2]]
19:21.58 brlcad python_libpath = [sysconfig.get_python_lib (0, 1) + '/config']
19:21.58 brlcad python_include = [sysconfig.get_python_inc ()]
19:21.59 brlcad python_linkflags = Split (sysconfig.get_config_var('LINKFORSHARED'))
19:22.32 joevalleyfield once i've run path python
19:23.35 joevalleyfield nevermind
19:23.38 brlcad yeah, once you've detected python, you can invoke and pull the values
19:23.46 joevalleyfield where does it get the sysconfig module?
19:23.54 brlcad import sys
19:24.16 brlcad oh, sysconfig
19:24.20 brlcad from distutils import sysconfig
19:24.57 joevalleyfield ah, it is in dist utils :)
19:25.09 joevalleyfield much thansks
19:47.17 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03lbutler * 10brlcad/src/rt/ (reshoot.c reshoot.1): (log message trimmed)
19:47.17 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: This is an application for re-shooting rays and comparing the results
19:47.18 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: to previous applicatin runs. The princiiple use will probably be
19:47.18 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: in the regression test suite. In that context, it should allow us
19:47.18 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: to shoot all the MUVES test suite rays outside of MUVES. The one downside
19:47.18 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: is that it relies on the RT_G_DEBUG flag DEBUG_ALLHITS to cause librt
19:47.20 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: to log the original rays. Since floating point values are logged with %g some
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19:50.09 clock_ brlcad: should I send you my CV?
19:55.51 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03lbutler * 10brlcad/src/rt/reshoot.1: Added a "BUGS" section with suitable caveats for precision loss
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20:47.11 clock_ brlcad: here?
21:03.21 ``Erik he's busy
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22:05.56 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03lbutler * 10brlcad/src/rt/reshoot.c: better output formatting
22:38.28 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03lbutler * 10brlcad/src/rt/ (reshoot.1 reshoot.c): extended documentation, code formatting, modified reporting
22:40.44 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03lbutler * 10brlcad/NEWS: added reshoot notice.
23:46.22 ``Erik home at last

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