| 00:03.42 | justin_ | hey |
| 00:04.44 | tegtmeye | I have it!!! |
| 00:04.56 | tegtmeye | With equations |
| 00:05.30 | justin_ | oh? :) |
| 00:05.37 | justin_ | msg me |
| 00:05.38 | pra5ad | o.0? |
| 00:05.48 | tegtmeye | We are both right |
| 00:05.54 | tegtmeye | I'm on the we client |
| 00:05.58 | tegtmeye | web |
| 00:06.26 | justin_ | did you see that? |
| 00:06.35 | tegtmeye | o |
| 00:06.37 | tegtmeye | no |
| 00:06.41 | justin_ | ah, k |
| 00:06.52 | justin_ | well, if you just wanna wait until you get home, that's cool |
| 00:07.19 | tegtmeye | someplace better to talk? |
| 00:07.48 | justin_ | try #lair |
| 00:09.23 | justin_ | ? |
| 00:09.43 | tegtmeye | what would be a irc client that would be installed on irc besides bitchx? |
| 00:11.01 | justin_ | huh? |
| 00:11.11 | justin_ | installed on what? |
| 00:11.18 | justin_ | do you want a shell on my box? |
| 00:11.19 | tegtmeye | red hat |
| 00:11.23 | *** join/#brlcad docelic (n=docelic@clj34-71.dial-up.arnes.si) | |
| 00:11.31 | tegtmeye | sure |
| 00:11.31 | justin_ | you can't irc from work cmoputers |
| 00:11.51 | justin_ | what do you want your user to be |
| 00:12.02 | tegtmeye | same as here |
| 00:12.28 | justin_ | tegtmeye or tegtmeyer? |
| 00:12.41 | tegtmeye | tegtmeye |
| 00:14.14 | justin_ | ok |
| 00:14.17 | justin_ | ssh js.cx |
| 00:14.46 | tegtmeye | ps? |
| 00:14.58 | justin_ | hit enter |
| 00:15.07 | tegtmeye | nope |
| 00:15.40 | justin_ | try 123 |
| 00:15.51 | tegtmeye | k |
| 00:15.57 | justin_ | k, change it |
| 00:16.25 | tegtmeye | ok |
| 00:16.33 | justin_ | k |
| 00:16.35 | justin_ | BitchX is there |
| 00:16.42 | tegtmeye | got it |
| 00:16.48 | justin_ | BitchX adams.freenode.net or something |
| 00:18.07 | tegtmeye | snore... |
| 00:18.11 | justin_ | heh |
| 00:18.25 | tegtmeye | processing...processing... |
| 00:19.09 | tegtmeye | must be that wireless:) |
| 00:19.22 | justin_ | heh |
| 00:19.34 | justin_ | or that I'm not running indent |
| 00:19.36 | justin_ | err identd |
| 00:20.02 | justin_ | does it say you're connecting to a freenode networking? |
| 00:20.09 | justin_ | or atleast established a connection? |
| 00:20.20 | tegtmeye | yea, stuck after mode change |
| 00:20.31 | justin_ | k, give it another minute |
| 00:20.43 | tegtmeye | dude, I'll just hop on from home |
| 00:20.48 | tegtmeye | give me an hour |
| 00:20.49 | justin_ | ok |
| 00:20.51 | justin_ | no prob |
| 00:21.02 | justin_ | draw a digram |
| 00:21.08 | tegtmeye | try the drill thing, it is part of the solution |
| 00:21.12 | justin_ | k |
| 00:21.33 | tegtmeye | later |
| 00:32.12 | ``Erik | *yawn* |
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| 01:26.58 | justin_ | hey |
| 01:27.05 | justin_ | I *just* finished the tests |
| 01:27.43 | tegtmeye | <- plugs in Pbook... |
| 01:27.48 | tegtmeye | so? |
| 01:27.58 | tegtmeye | good news or bad |
| 01:28.26 | justin_ | check your msgs |
| 01:28.40 | tegtmeye | mmm 2 day old Olive Tree... |
| 01:29.21 | justin_ | well? |
| 01:29.39 | tegtmeye | give me a min, still new to Bitchx... |
| 01:29.51 | justin_ | it's ... irc :) |
| 02:05.35 | ``Erik | mike: read up on "/win new" and "/win level", they're... handy... I can trim and gives you my .ircrc if you want o.O |
| 02:05.43 | ``Erik | s/gives/give/ |
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| 02:06.40 | ``Erik | annoying noisy sed bots, w00t. |
| 02:07.02 | brlcad | yeah, relatively new feature that tim must have added |
| 02:07.06 | brlcad | didn't used to do that |
| 02:07.45 | ``Erik | I assume it's a scratch written bot, not based off of eggie or something? |
| 02:08.00 | ``Erik | (which is the only tcl i'd ever touched before being exposed to brlcad o.O) |
| 02:09.18 | brlcad | ~ibot |
| 02:09.19 | ibot | well, ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 02:09.46 | brlcad | Guu: guu |
| 02:09.47 | Guu | guu is hip and cool, baffuuuuuu |
| 02:09.49 | Matt_2_ | now i can enjoy this conversation in black AND white |
| 02:10.00 | brlcad | guu: identify |
| 02:10.01 | Guu | brlcad: (identify <name> <password>) -- Identifies the user as <name>. This command (and all other commands that include a password) must be sent to the bot privately, not in a channel. |
| 02:10.05 | brlcad | blah |
| 02:10.14 | brlcad | guu: version |
| 02:10.19 | Guu | brlcad: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.80.0pre2. The newest version available online is 0.83.1. |
| 02:10.37 | ``Erik | both of mine are eggies, heh |
| 02:10.39 | brlcad | so perl and python represent |
| 02:10.46 | ``Erik | I've seen a couple scheme bots that look... quite enticing |
| 02:10.58 | ``Erik | and you know me, I'm an ankle grabbing ho for anything scheme |
| 02:11.03 | brlcad | yep |
| 02:11.11 | PrezKennedy | incredible... the national weather service has a dense fog advisory |
| 02:11.32 | brlcad | supybot has some incredibly interesting features, but a horrid user/auth/permissions system |
| 02:12.24 | brlcad | bloot is surprisingly practical and instantly useful -- ibot in particular as her database is pretty massive having been around for years |
| 02:12.27 | ``Erik | heh, I'm still running old (1.3) eggies |
| 02:17.32 | ``Erik | ok, sean, spanglish question... 'mi hermano' means "my friend" in a masculine context... what would you call a chica? |
| 02:20.38 | brlcad | mi hermano literally means "my brother" |
| 02:21.10 | ``Erik | ahhhh |
| 02:21.18 | ``Erik | so the correlary would be "my sister"? |
| 02:21.18 | brlcad | which in vernacular can be like "my bro" or "my homie" or "my buddy" etc |
| 02:21.31 | ``Erik | O.o or is that a colloquial difference? |
| 02:21.32 | brlcad | yeah |
| 02:21.39 | brlcad | it is very much |
| 02:22.00 | ``Erik | aight, thnx |
| 02:22.05 | brlcad | just as colloquial as calling someone your bro is in english |
| 02:22.28 | ``Erik | maybe I should be learning spanglish instead of nippongo |
| 02:22.56 | brlcad | ~translate en es maybe I should be learning spanglish instead of nippongo |
| 02:23.15 | brlcad | heh, wow -- that's actually not that bad |
| 02:23.24 | ``Erik | ~translate en es suck�my balls, dork |
| 02:23.31 | ``Erik | heh |
| 02:23.44 | PrezKennedy | ~translate es en que? |
| 02:23.58 | brlcad | heh |
| 02:24.12 | ``Erik | !translate taco burrito supreme grande spaghetti |
| 02:24.16 | ``Erik | doh |
| 02:24.24 | ``Erik | used to "bang" commands on bots |
| 02:24.25 | ``Erik | :) |
| 02:24.38 | brlcad | that would be guu, and she don't have the translate module right now |
| 02:24.39 | ``Erik | mmm, beavis&butthead |
| 02:25.05 | brlcad | !who's your daddy? |
| 02:25.19 | brlcad | or.. someone changed the prefix char |
| 02:25.20 | PrezKennedy | ~translate es en fannybandit |
| 02:25.36 | PrezKennedy | guess my days of learning spanish from family guy are over |
| 02:29.50 | PrezKennedy | is it good? |
| 02:41.03 | ``Erik | sena, your box is now debian, with everything running and ok (but httpd turned off), and the server is now all fbsd, with most of the functionality in place, duder |
| 02:50.15 | ``Erik | heh, raiding? |
| 02:52.28 | brlcad | new on walkabout |
| 02:52.35 | brlcad | er, s/new/just/ |
| 02:53.52 | ``Erik | of course you know me and justin... I'm assuming you recognized alexis |
| 02:54.14 | ``Erik | burger and andrew are in there |
| 02:54.25 | ``Erik | channel's a bit skinny right now |
| 02:55.12 | brlcad | jeesh, i can't type tonight |
| 02:55.34 | ``Erik | heh |
| 03:06.37 | pra5ad | miyazaki on tmc again |
| 04:58.20 | Maloeran | Hi Sean, so you found the hiding place of Justin, Erik and I :), feel free to join the eternal debates about the future of graphical rendering |
| 04:59.14 | learner | heh, not much of a hiding place if I find it just wandering around efnet ;) |
| 05:01.26 | Maloeran | Eheh, we have been meeting there for the last few years, and Efnet's #opengl before then |
| 05:02.03 | Maloeran | freenode's #opengl is much more alive, much more clueless too |
| 05:08.16 | Maloeran | *nods* Burga is an expert at that too |
| 05:08.39 | ``Erik | burgers a d3d whoring winiot |
| 05:09.01 | ``Erik | I actually helped someone yesterday, heh |
| 05:09.25 | ``Erik | glColor3ui, geez, some people just make things unnecessarily hard on themselves |
| 05:12.11 | pra5ad | hmm? |
| 05:12.23 | pra5ad | whats wrong with 3ui? |
| 05:18.12 | Maloeran | Someone was passing 1.0f as parameter and wondering why everything was "black" |
| 05:18.38 | pra5ad | ah hehe |
| 05:24.15 | pra5ad | naussica and laputa subbed on right now |
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| 15:10.53 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/archer/Archer.tcl: Modify the packTree method to ignore malformed lines. Add call to _refresh_tree to _apply_edit and _reset_edit |
| 15:13.07 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/archer/ShaderEdit.tcl: Add code to possibly call the (-shaderChangedCallback) from the changedShader method. |
| 15:16.09 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/archer/images/aboutArcher.png: Update to 0.7.3 |
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| 18:18.23 | igotbsd | hi everyone |
| 18:21.03 | igotbsd | just installed brlcad on fbsd5.4-stable, but when i try to run mged from GUI i get this error Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display "unix:0". apparently that's not the right value for the env. variable or is it? any help on this... |
| 18:23.00 | joevalleyfield | you might try the x display manager rather than the ogl one |
| 18:23.50 | joevalleyfield | mged -c will give you a choice but you'll sacrifice some of the gui |
| 18:24.06 | joevalleyfield | not sure how to choose display manager in non-classic mode |
| 18:25.00 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/archer/Archer.tcl: Add better support for toggling display of primitive labels when Archer is embedded. |
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| 18:30.59 | ``Erik | heh |
| 18:31.06 | ``Erik | gantt chart chunk is refusing to work |
| 18:31.30 | joevalleyfield | if that was my name, i'd go on strike too! |
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| 19:21.27 | brlcad | heh |
| 19:45.27 | pier | brlcad.... |
| 19:46.11 | pier | had a look at the docbook crash course |
| 20:11.18 | brlcad | pier: excellent |
| 20:11.19 | brlcad | thoughts? |
| 20:11.29 | pier | what then? |
| 20:11.40 | pier | pick a man page and.. |
| 20:11.47 | brlcad | sounds like something you think you could work on? |
| 20:11.56 | brlcad | yeah |
| 20:12.01 | brlcad | maybe brlcad.1 |
| 20:12.03 | pier | you talked about rt man page |
| 20:13.31 | brlcad | only because it's one of the most frequently requested |
| 20:13.43 | brlcad | you could really pick any of them.. there are lots :) |
| 20:13.44 | pier | ok |
| 20:14.40 | pier | once I have translated the content is there a template I am supposed to follow? |
| 20:16.10 | pier | I mean.. in order to produce a dockbook document? |
| 20:17.06 | brlcad | not really |
| 20:17.58 | brlcad | have to consider how languages come into play across the entire package for making it easy to generate a set of documentation |
| 20:18.20 | brlcad | in docbook lingo, probably a collection of book, with several books being collections of articles |
| 20:18.38 | brlcad | i'd imagine the manpage is an article, though there might be better approaches |
| 20:20.01 | pier | is there a parallel project for multi lang where contributors can send files? |
| 20:20.11 | brlcad | there is probably an overarching organization that will be needed if only to maintain the files, e.g. whether having the files spread out across the source tree is better than having them all inside of doc/ |
| 20:21.00 | brlcad | and how to manage the different languages .. one dir per language at a high level? no dirs and just designate with extensions? one dir per dir with translations? |
| 20:21.29 | pier | :) |
| 20:22.08 | pier | why worrying about dirs and so on at this stage? |
| 20:24.10 | pier | perhaps a good point would be translating th group of 4 tomes and make them available through the BRLCAD site |
| 20:24.35 | pier | for a starter.... |
| 20:26.18 | pier | did I say rubbish? |
| 20:26.36 | brlcad | not worrying, just thinking aloud about long term |
| 20:28.54 | pier | translating the manuals wouldn't take long... there's already a template to spoil and to take advatage of |
| 20:28.56 | brlcad | pier: oh good idea |
| 20:29.04 | brlcad | how about starting with volume I |
| 20:29.06 | brlcad | it's short |
| 20:29.16 | pier | right away |
| 20:29.17 | brlcad | and already somewhat htmlified |
| 20:29.26 | pier | ;) |
| 20:30.05 | joevalleyfield | are man pages supposed to be <RefEntry/>s ? |
| 20:31.04 | brlcad | pier: http://brlcad.org/overview.html is volume I |
| 20:31.09 | brlcad | joevalleyfield: are they? |
| 20:31.20 | joevalleyfield | don't know about in the newest dtds |
| 20:31.29 | brlcad | oh, this looks useful: http://sourceforge.net/projects/man2docbook/ |
| 20:32.52 | brlcad | and http://docbook2x.sourceforge.net/ |
| 20:32.55 | brlcad | for the reverse |
| 20:33.04 | joevalleyfield | sweet |
| 20:35.06 | pier | There are no file packages defined for this project. |
| 20:36.56 | brlcad | yeah.. looks like they never got past the requirements stage |
| 20:37.16 | brlcad | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/man2docbook/doc/req.txt?rev=1.1&view=auto |
| 20:38.07 | brlcad | here's another http://www.xmlhack.com/read.php?item=1749 |
| 20:38.38 | brlcad | http://www.catb.org/~esr/doclifter/ |
| 20:38.38 | joevalleyfield | and that one is a little more than vapor |
| 20:41.26 | pier | man -> docbook -> polishing ;) -> that's it |
| 20:43.01 | brlcad | heh, i remember when ESR ran this: http://www.catb.org/~esr/doclifter/problems.html |
| 20:43.28 | brlcad | now I see it's all part of "project paradise" |
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| 20:44.43 | joevalleyfield | b address is blocked :-D |
| 20:46.38 | pier | so brlcad... I'll start asap to translate vol 1 |
| 20:47.06 | brlcad | pier: sounds great, look forward to seeing it |
| 20:47.16 | pier | where is the file to be sent |
| 20:47.22 | brlcad | btw, what languages do you know? :) |
| 20:49.07 | pier | ....Italiam :( |
| 20:49.10 | pier | n |
| 20:49.16 | brlcad | i'd start by sending the file in as a patch, we can work on simplifying that part later |
| 20:49.20 | brlcad | ah, excellent |
| 20:50.10 | pier | and some dialect from my own town which is quite incomprehensible :) |
| 20:50.21 | pier | so useless |
| 20:51.36 | brlcad | il mio amico sara' eccitato |
| 20:51.51 | pier | ? |
| 20:52.07 | pier | google translator? |
| 20:52.18 | brlcad | heh, no |
| 20:52.27 | pier | in che senso? |
| 20:52.32 | brlcad | just my bad italian |
| 20:52.34 | pier | :) |
| 20:53.02 | brlcad | il mio amico sarebbe contento di vederti |
| 20:53.12 | brlcad | er, to see it |
| 20:53.21 | pier | I mean there is always a man's best friend and it is advisable not to be eccitato at work |
| 20:53.30 | pier | :) |
| 20:53.34 | brlcad | hehe, pues contento :) |
| 20:53.42 | brlcad | felice |
| 20:53.45 | pier | congratulations! |
| 20:53.53 | brlcad | no eccitato ;) |
| 20:54.00 | pier | now it is better ;) |
| 20:54.18 | brlcad | you never know.. might really be that excited ;) |
| 20:54.30 | brlcad | to have the docs in italian |
| 20:55.26 | pier | ok then... I'll try and do my best |
| 20:56.26 | brlcad | no worries, even the english versions always need more work ;) |
| 20:57.23 | pier | it could be a good starting point in spreading such a great program |
| 20:57.41 | brlcad | i agree |
| 20:58.51 | pier | it would be a dirac-delta in the steepenig growing path |
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| 21:06.01 | pier | brlcad hope the DOMS has gone and wish a great weekend to everybody (and great workouts too ) |
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| 21:15.52 | brlcad | pier: DOMS? |
| 21:16.05 | brlcad | ~doms |
| 21:16.33 | brlcad | same to you, great weekend |
| 21:17.10 | pier | http://www.physsportsmed.com/issues/1999/01_99/muscle.htm |
| 21:17.14 | pier | buonanotte |
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| 21:20.24 | brlcad | hah |
| 21:21.32 | brlcad | that's a good link for pra5ad |
| 21:22.40 | clock_ | does pra5ad have a lot of muscles? |
| 21:23.05 | clock_ | I got brutal Document Object Model System from snowboarding :) |
| 21:23.08 | brlcad | heh |
| 21:25.54 | clock_ | brlcad: today is Friday 13. Today's sunset was interesting - we took a picture: ronja.twibright.com/fri13.jpg |
| 21:26.12 | brlcad | ooh, didn't realize that |
| 21:26.23 | brlcad | neat picture |
| 21:26.56 | clock_ | brlcad: do you know the blair witch project? |
| 21:27.02 | brlcad | yep |
| 21:27.08 | brlcad | i've been in that park |
| 21:27.10 | brlcad | it's nice ;) |
| 21:28.36 | brlcad | in fact, I just biked through it on new years eve during my ride, altough not into the park itself, just down the highway that passes |
| 21:29.43 | archivist | bikes need engines |
| 21:30.05 | brlcad | hehe |
| 21:30.54 | clock_ | brlcad: were there any stick figures? |
| 21:31.11 | clock_ | brlcad: what was in the house at the end of the movie? |
| 21:31.30 | clock_ | brlcad: the people were just staring there at something and it ended. |
| 21:31.32 | brlcad | i actually still haven't seen the movie, just know a bit about it |
| 21:31.52 | clock_ | brlcad: it wasn't conclusive. All it could have been a joke of the locals that didn't like the visitors |
| 21:32.20 | brlcad | heh, given the area, that is highly possible ;) |
| 23:05.45 | pra5ad | its bsg friday |
| 23:05.51 | pra5ad | it's* |