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22:50.30 cad436 hello
22:51.14 brlcad howdy
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22:51.55 Adamdaniel Hi
22:51.55 brlcad and he returns
22:52.15 Adamdaniel I was wondering if someone could help me with my Windows BRL cad installation.
22:52.26 brlcad "possibly"
22:52.29 Adamdaniel I have it up and running, but it says no database
22:52.31 brlcad it depends on what the problem is
22:52.33 brlcad ah
22:52.44 brlcad you need to specify a database :)
22:53.11 brlcad (geometry files are known as geometry database files)
22:53.24 brlcad so opening a database means, you need to open a file
22:53.39 Adamdaniel thanks.
22:53.49 brlcad you can do that by going to Open on the file menu or typing: opendb test.g on the command line
22:53.54 Adamdaniel I downloaded the tutorial (am nub obviously)
22:54.04 brlcad welcome
22:54.57 Adamdaniel Of the open source programs I looked at, BRL-Cad looked the most promising for a nub like me.
22:55.17 Adamdaniel I want to learn cad, I have a design I want to market.
22:55.20 brlcad it's in full production use, and has been around forever ;)
22:55.33 brlcad free doesn't hurt too
22:55.41 Adamdaniel amen to that.
22:56.16 Adamdaniel Is the tutorial from the site a good place to start, or is there another that might be better?
22:56.27 brlcad it's got a pretty hefty learning curve (as just about every CAD system does), but it's pretty featured
22:57.05 brlcad the "Introduction to MGED" on the website is meant to be fairly comprehensive (and not "short", though it can be completed in a day)
22:57.37 brlcad be sure to check out the MGED Quick Reference Card to have on hand
22:57.56 Adamdaniel is someone in this channel most of the time too?
22:59.06 Adamdaniel I appreciate you answering my questions, I am sure I will have more, but I am off to do some reading :0
22:59.08 Adamdaniel Thanks.
22:59.12 brlcad most of the time, yeah
23:02.15 animall how well does the x86-64 linux version work?
23:02.36 animall or will some of the features hang up on 64bit linux?
23:03.18 brlcad it should work just fine
23:03.54 brlcad if there are any problems, please report them (sf.net/projects/brlcad under the bugs section or here)
23:03.54 animall good, now if some of the movie players would get with the program and support 64 bit, i would be real happy
23:04.14 brlcad brl-cad has worked 64-bit for a couple decades ;)
23:04.52 brlcad if there's any problems, it's usually opengl-related (which can be compile-time disabled with no loss in functionality)
23:04.52 animall yep, remember reading that, just didnt know if there might be any hangups because of the memory mapping difference on x86-64 between amd and intel chips
23:05.19 animall np on that, already modified the driver so it wont give me fits
23:05.22 brlcad nah, x86-64 is one of the primary systems used
23:05.33 animall good
23:05.36 brlcad only problems that come to mind are some freebsd 6 threading bugs
23:05.41 animall ouch
23:06.07 brlcad but from everything I've seen debugging, it looks like a bug in freebsd land, not in brl-cad land
23:06.25 animall I've still got to reread the docs, but I'm planning on seeing how well it likes dual core threading with em64t in a week or so
23:06.27 brlcad (it's specific to amd64 freebsd)
23:06.35 animall ah
23:06.40 animall lower memory mapping ability
23:06.44 brlcad linux should be fine
23:07.09 animall cool
23:07.36 brlcad and again, if it's not -- if you run into a problem, please do report it -- those are rather high priority issues
23:07.36 animall i've got some blueprints i want to get setup before the paper decides to fall apart on me
23:08.03 animall np
23:08.33 animall i just have to make sure i dont bring any of the proprietary stuff out of work into it
23:08.56 brlcad there's a nice "brief" intro available from a user here: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1447646&forum_id=362509
23:09.05 animall http://people.redhat.com/blizzard/monkeys.txt
23:09.07 animall oops
23:09.15 animall wrong option selected
23:09.27 brlcad heh :)
23:11.10 animall i was thinking of setting it up to handle some 3d data modelling for some of the test systems at work
23:11.35 animall sort of an extra validation mechanism for code changes on development applications
23:13.14 brlcad interesting
23:13.28 brlcad what area of focus is that? machining?
23:13.42 animall circuit / chipset design
23:13.46 brlcad ah
23:13.50 animall validation tools inputing data
23:14.17 brlcad mm.. reminds me that I need to get back to work on the automatic knapsack packing library
23:14.23 animall and using the input data for 3d modeling of any areas to visually identify potential problems
23:14.28 brlcad for optimal packing solutions
23:14.40 animall sounds painful
23:14.51 brlcad not horribly
23:15.13 brlcad there was a great research paper that effectively solved the problem for regular shaped objects in a static space
23:15.45 brlcad with brl-cad, I believe that can be extended to arbitrary shapes fairly easily so you get nice tight packing
23:16.10 brlcad for things like machinging out of a piece of material, optimally placing components onto a circuit board, etc
23:16.21 animall yeah, could be benificial, esp in distributed computing on large scale projects
23:17.21 animall time for me to hit the books again, got to review some perl for tomorrow
23:17.49 animall thnx on the assistance :)
23:17.53 brlcad no problem
23:18.03 brlcad thanks for the interest

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