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bryan_ |
hello |
18:49.16 |
bryan_ |
I have read in a few places about the new
"archer" interface. |
18:49.29 |
bryan_ |
What is the purpose of this GUI? |
18:49.45 |
siggraph |
hello bryan_ |
18:49.57 |
bryan_ |
it doesn't run on my linux pc, and it looks
like it might be developed on win32 first |
18:50.10 |
bryan_ |
do you know anything about this sig? |
18:50.14 |
``Erik |
it was |
18:50.22 |
siggraph |
it was, though it only needs a few tweaks for
linux |
18:50.26 |
bryan_ |
ok. |
18:50.29 |
siggraph |
it also works on linux |
18:50.32 |
bryan_ |
well what is it? |
18:50.37 |
siggraph |
doesn't work on os x yet (minor
issue) |
18:50.58 |
bryan_ |
It throws errors including but not limited to
can't find package blt |
18:51.01 |
siggraph |
it's basically the beginning of a new modeler,
written using much of mged as a foundation |
18:51.14 |
bryan_ |
that's what i figured looking at the
code |
18:51.17 |
``Erik |
heh |
18:51.24 |
bryan_ |
but couldn't get it to run properly |
18:51.24 |
siggraph |
yeah, the package search for blt is not
working right, have to manually set some things for it to find
blt |
18:51.34 |
bryan_ |
hmm |
18:51.45 |
bryan_ |
I have installed blt, but have no experience
with tcl |
18:51.52 |
siggraph |
basically, if you're at all familiar with
mged, it's mged with an interface that sucks less *ss |
18:51.57 |
bryan_ |
how does one set this up to work? |
18:52.08 |
bryan_ |
i was hoping that was what it was |
18:52.15 |
siggraph |
howdy ``Erik .. guess where i'm at
:) |
18:52.24 |
bryan_ |
I have been kisking around the idea of writing
such a thing |
18:52.27 |
bryan_ |
kicking |
18:52.42 |
siggraph |
ahh |
18:53.07 |
bryan_ |
i have used proe, soliddge, unigraphics,
solidworks, etc and they are all getting nice GUIs |
18:53.13 |
``Erik |
bitch |
18:53.41 |
siggraph |
it's not exactly simple to explain how to get
it working beyond "it's not ready for linux just quite yet (couple
days/weeks)" .. otherwise it's a matter of tcl search path
configuration |
18:53.42 |
bryan_ |
and brlcad seems to be powerful, but about 5
years behing in the usability category |
18:53.50 |
``Erik |
ohyeah, and kick lee in the butt for me,
too |
18:53.52 |
siggraph |
heh 5 years |
18:53.55 |
``Erik |
ass kickings for everyone. |
18:53.55 |
siggraph |
that's being generous |
18:54.14 |
``Erik |
tim and chuck, too |
18:54.15 |
``Erik |
yo |
18:54.17 |
``Erik |
:/ |
18:54.20 |
bryan_ |
well it's about on par with proe 2000 so call
it 7 years |
18:54.22 |
``Erik |
I'm grousy and unhappy. |
18:54.24 |
siggraph |
``Erik: I'll convery the information while I
go bask in the hot tub.. hold on |
18:54.31 |
``Erik |
... |
18:54.33 |
``Erik |
'fucker |
18:54.35 |
siggraph |
hehe |
18:55.01 |
siggraph |
bryan_: yeah, the features are definitely
there .. there's a solid 100+ manyears of development effort
invested |
18:55.02 |
``Erik |
:> |
18:55.04 |
bryan_ |
i'm new here, could I opt out of the ass
kickings? |
18:55.16 |
bryan_ |
I can see that |
18:55.42 |
bryan_ |
I'm laid up with an achilles tear and I've
been browsing the source for mged |
18:55.51 |
siggraph |
bryan_: he's just bitter because several of
the devs are up at the annual ACM Siggraph conference and he's
not |
18:55.59 |
bryan_ |
ah |
18:56.10 |
bryan_ |
well it beats being stuck on a sofa |
18:56.11 |
siggraph |
it's a rather fun conference to say the
least |
18:56.17 |
bryan_ |
like I am |
18:56.23 |
siggraph |
heh |
18:56.29 |
``Erik |
bryan: if you're not one of the few folk who
get paychecks from teh same place as me, but DID get to go to
siggraph this year, you are exempt. |
18:56.57 |
bryan_ |
so the tcl search paths ought to be explained
on the tcl site? |
18:57.11 |
``Erik |
fucking stupid motherfucking fucking goddamn
fucking ... |
18:57.17 |
``Erik |
mebbe next year I'll present there,
hah. |
18:57.18 |
``Erik |
:( |
18:57.20 |
``Erik |
fuk |
18:57.23 |
``Erik |
FUX |
18:57.39 |
``Erik |
O.o |
18:57.49 |
``Erik |
*pissed* |
18:57.58 |
``Erik |
almost as much as the fucking bsdcan
episode |
18:58.05 |
``Erik |
oooohhhhh I was fucking pissed |
18:58.05 |
siggraph |
innovate that metaball, make it sweet, write a
paper |
18:58.11 |
``Erik |
that's the plan. |
18:58.28 |
``Erik |
I've yet to find anything approaching a
reasonable bounding sphere for a metaball. |
18:58.50 |
siggraph |
bryan_: yes, it is.. though I could probably
condense it all if you wait a little bit for me to look at the
code |
18:59.20 |
siggraph |
probably just a matter of copying the blt
directory into a path that is already being searched will be the
easiest |
18:59.32 |
``Erik |
thanks for the book, btw... couldn't find a
name in it... if ya do that, you probably should at LEAST slap a
postit on it... |
18:59.32 |
``Erik |
:) |
18:59.36 |
bryan_ |
i'll try that |
18:59.43 |
``Erik |
otherwise, your library will dwindle
;) |
18:59.48 |
siggraph |
heh |
18:59.51 |
siggraph |
it's a great book |
19:00.05 |
``Erik |
it's a tiny book, but it looks reasonably
dense |
19:00.09 |
siggraph |
pretty dense on the math and sparse on the
explanations, but good summary |
19:00.54 |
``Erik |
I've had good math-heavy discussions with
several math doctorates recently, if I NEED help groking the math,
I have people to lean on :) |
19:00.59 |
siggraph |
plus it's got everything in context with the
"big picture", so you can see what else has been done |
19:01.26 |
siggraph |
how metaballs relate to blending in general
for example |
19:01.35 |
``Erik |
the latest wench happens to irc as well and
intro'd me to a math phd whom I chattered with at lenght, he's
"bored" and looking for mental exercises, heh |
19:01.51 |
``Erik |
(the latest wench is finishing up a masters in
math, to boot) |
19:02.06 |
``Erik |
irritating that she's like 6mo younger than me
and ahead of me on ed :/ |
19:02.08 |
``Erik |
:D |
19:16.50 |
siggraph |
bryan_: try "export ARCHER_HOME=/usr/brlcad"
then run archer again |
19:16.55 |
siggraph |
that alone just might do the trick |
19:17.46 |
``Erik |
hah... PROG_HOME is so... archaic. |
19:18.00 |
bryan_ |
ok |
19:18.21 |
``Erik |
writing yesteryears software
tomorrow. |
19:18.22 |
``Erik |
:( |
19:19.12 |
``Erik |
and seriously, dude, pimpslap lee for me :)
the bitch is chillin' at fucking siggraph all glossyeyed and pimp
promo shit, meanwhile the folk who could BENEFIT are sitting at
home being grousy :D |
19:19.14 |
``Erik |
*duck* |
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bryan_ |
nah still get the error message |
19:20.07 |
``Erik |
is there anything in the paperwork on implicit
surfaces? |
19:20.38 |
``Erik |
I mean, the $1500 to send me there would
probably save more than 10k of my time, hah. |
19:20.38 |
``Erik |
:(* |
19:20.45 |
``Erik |
*grouse* |
19:20.54 |
``Erik |
stupid fucking gov't |
19:20.56 |
``Erik |
*shakes fist** |
19:22.11 |
``Erik |
<-- angry, and drinkin', so doubly angry
:D |
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siggraph |
evidently so |
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siggraph |
(from the Siggraph Store) |
19:26.31 |
``Erik |
1heh |
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siggraph |
bryan_: hrmph |
19:26.59 |
``Erik |
do the pills have a fancy crescent and say
'S06' on 'em? |
19:27.01 |
``Erik |
:/ |
19:27.04 |
siggraph |
bryan_: what does this report: find
/usr/brlcad -type d -name blt2.4 |
19:27.25 |
``Erik |
if the fucking wench wasn't gone to go to a
wedding, I'd be breaking the bitch to try to calm down
some. |
19:27.30 |
``Erik |
*grouse* |
19:27.32 |
siggraph |
nah, that was last years, this years is
silver |
19:27.39 |
bryan_ |
/usr/brlcad/lib/blt2.4 |
19:27.47 |
``Erik |
just plain silver? no "06"? |
19:27.58 |
bryan_ |
sig, how do I send pm's in irc? |
19:27.59 |
siggraph |
says boston06 |
19:28.09 |
siggraph |
bryan_: /msg siggraph message |
19:28.14 |
bryan_ |
danke |
19:28.16 |
``Erik |
bryan: /msg username msg |
19:28.18 |
``Erik |
heh |
19:28.43 |
siggraph |
too slow drunky |
19:28.51 |
``Erik |
and this net sucks, so if the person you want
to message hasn't done something special, you need to be
'registered'... |
19:28.58 |
``Erik |
good thing mr sean has 'done something
special' |
19:29.12 |
``Erik |
drunky? why, I oughta smack the shit outta you
:D |
19:29.32 |
siggraph |
i'll sit by the pool waiting |
19:29.44 |
siggraph |
with my martini |
19:30.05 |
siggraph |
actually.. i could go for a mojito |
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IriX64 |
hecklers back :) |
21:32.48 |
IriX64 |
you know ./mged -c mode. |
21:36.21 |
siggraph |
IriX64: 'tops' will give a list of geometry --
'e object' will display "object" |
21:47.01 |
``Erik |
-c is awesome |
21:47.21 |
``Erik |
did you 'attach' a display type? |
21:47.25 |
``Erik |
like, X or gl? |
21:47.45 |
``Erik |
<-- usually says "nu" when starting in -c,
but has different intentions for using the thing |
21:49.20 |
IriX64 |
nu |
21:49.26 |
siggraph |
then type gui |
21:49.35 |
IriX64 |
thankyou. |
21:50.07 |
CIA-9 |
BRL-CAD: 03lbutler * 10brlcad/ (COPYING
INSTALL include/machine.h src/libbu/parallel.c): changes to support
Intel Mac parallel code |
21:50.20 |
``Erik |
oh shit, what did he break now |
21:50.55 |
IriX64 |
dm_bestXtype invalid command name. |
21:51.15 |
siggraph |
well for starters, he blew away COPYING and
INSTALL |
21:53.12 |
``Erik |
sean, you have my permission to walk over and
backhand him as hard as you can. :D |
21:57.10 |
CIA-9 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/INSTALL: revert
-- I doubt these changes support the intel mac parallel code..
careful not to commit INSTALL as it is often automatically
overwritten by automake |
21:57.40 |
``Erik |
*snicker* |
21:57.54 |
``Erik |
that's a very polite and civil way to phrase
it :D |
21:57.56 |
CIA-9 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/COPYING: revert
-- I doubt these changes support the intel mac parallel code..
careful not to commit COPYING as it is often automatically
overwritten by automake |
22:36.58 |
IriX64 |
$ aclocal |
22:36.58 |
IriX64 |
S |
22:36.58 |
IriX64 |
<PROTECTED> |
22:36.58 |
IriX64 |
<PROTECTED> |
22:36.59 |
IriX64 |
I |
22:36.59 |
IriX64 |
IBMCRYPT |
22:37.01 |
IriX64 |
IBGCRYPT |
22:37.03 |
IriX64 |
T2 |
22:37.05 |
IriX64 |
NIT |
22:37.07 |
IriX64 |
aclocal:configure.ac:2765: warning: macro
`AM_PATH_SDL' not found in library |
22:40.06 |
IriX64 |
checking whether dependency tracking should be
enabled... no |
22:40.07 |
IriX64 |
checking for a BSD-compatible install...
/usr/bin/install -c |
22:40.07 |
IriX64 |
checking whether build environment is sane...
yes |
22:40.07 |
IriX64 |
checking for gawk... gawk |
22:40.07 |
IriX64 |
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)...
yes |
22:40.07 |
IriX64 |
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific
portions of Makefiles... no |
22:40.09 |
IriX64 |
./configure: line 2271: syntax error near
unexpected token `COPYING' |
22:40.11 |
IriX64 |
./configure: line 2271:
`BC_RESTORE_CLOBBERED(COPYING INSTALL, misc)' |
22:40.13 |
IriX64 |
IriX64@hagarsfi-f038a0
~/brlcad-10.0.0 |
22:40.59 |
IriX64 |
autoconf autoheader automake produced no
warnings or erros. |
22:41.07 |
IriX64 |
errors too. |
22:41.46 |
IriX64 |
and don't tell me to fix it :) |
22:42.18 |
IriX64 |
time to refresh my code tree i
guess. |
22:45.33 |
IriX64 |
fixed... the easy way, i leave the real work
to you :) |
22:46.05 |
IriX64 |
don't ignore it, it won't go away.
:) |
22:57.36 |
IriX64 |
maybe should be AM_PATH_TO_SDL ? :) |
23:00.02 |
IriX64 |
not it. |
23:05.53 |
IriX64 |
dnl works *shrug* |