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clock_ |
Unfortunately the brlcad is completely
unusable for an ocassional user |
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clock_ |
I used to know how to use it 1/2 year ago and
now I am trying to use it again and I see I forgot all the
elaborate definition |
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clock_ |
What's the difference between c, g, and r?
Which ones permit overlapping and which not? |
07:01.22 |
clock_ |
What is A,B,C,D,H, and V in a
cylinder? |
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clock_ |
The help is also unusable: |
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clock_ |
mged> help c |
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clock_ |
Usage: c [-cr] comb_name
[boolean_expr] |
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clock_ |
(create or extend a combination using standard
notation) |
07:02.19 |
clock_ |
Doesn't say what a combination is and what
properties it has and what is not allowed with
combination |
07:02.34 |
clock_ |
THe same for g and r:mged> help r |
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clock_ |
Usage: r object(s) |
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clock_ |
(create or append objects to a
region) |
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clock_ |
mged> help g |
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clock_ |
Usage: g gname object(s) |
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clock_ |
(create or append object(s) to a
group) |
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clock_ |
The quick reference card PDF takes about 10
seconds to draw a page on 1500MHz CPU so it's rather a slow
reference card than a quick reference card |
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clock_ |
Is it possible to place points in BRL-CAD and
then reference them? |
07:26.30 |
clock_ |
For example place points A, B, C, D into space
and then say |
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clock_ |
"connect A and B with cylinder 6mm
diameter" |
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clock_ |
and the same for A and C, A and D, B and C, B
and D, C and D |
08:02.31 |
brlcad |
clock_: per your earlier question, you can
click in the graphics window to edit a value with the
mouse |
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brlcad |
without typing in values |
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brlcad |
you select teh edit operation on the edit
menu, then middle click in the graphics window using points above
and below the center dot to increase/decrease values |
08:04.47 |
brlcad |
main difference between c g and r is syntax,
except r also marks the object as a region which has a specific
meaning (creates a "part", or solid matter as opposed to just a
shape) |
08:05.38 |
clock_ |
brlcad: is it the content of the help stored
in the source tarball? |
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brlcad |
what do you mean? |
08:08.12 |
brlcad |
most of this stuff is covered by the intro to
mged guide if that's what you mean |
08:10.14 |
brlcad |
the help for those commands in mged is weak ..
they need something like a manpage per command as it's not easy to
quantify their use in one line |
08:10.50 |
brlcad |
you really have to grasp the difference
between groups/assemblies and regions/parts and combinations before
it all makes sense |
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brlcad |
g creates a group with a simple syntax of just
listing objects you want to add, g object a b c d e f will add a b
c d e f to a group named object |
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brlcad |
which is a shorthand for creating a
combination of only unions of a b c d e f, i.e. equivalent to c
object a u b u c u d u e u f |
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brlcad |
r does effectively the same thing as g, and
can use a similar syntax, but it marks "object" as a region which
matters for things like overlaps |
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clock_ |
and c? |
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clock_ |
Can I edit the help and improve it? |
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clock_ |
Can I page and string search in the help
output? |
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clock_ |
Is it possible to change the help and then
send a patch? |
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clock_ |
brlcad: I need to draw a model of lattice
truss made of tetrahedral units |
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clock_ |
The wire is 6mm thick and in some parts 10mm
pipe with 1.5mm thick wall |
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clock_ |
How do I do this efficiently? |
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clock_ |
Only rotating one wire takes like 15 minutes
to get it right |
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clock_ |
The best would be if I could click 2 points
and say connect with wire |
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clock_ |
brlcad: ? |
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``Erik |
heh, he probably went to sleep o.O |
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brlcad |
heh |
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brlcad |
clock_: of course you can edit the help and
improve it! |
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brlcad |
for string search, there is already a command,
'apropos' |
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brlcad |
there isn't currently a pager, though as I
mentioned, I have thought that it would be good to move to full
blown manpages for the commands |
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``Erik |
sleep, row, whatever, just layin' around being
lazy... :D *duck* |
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clock_ |
brlcad: row on the water or on a rowing
machine in a gym? |
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brlcad |
``Erik: that's your mantra too?! |
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brlcad |
clock_: on water most days |
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``Erik |
gettin' a bit cold to keep that up |
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clock_ |
must be cold and wet |
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brlcad |
though it is getting pretty freaking cold at
4am |
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clock_ |
watery grave ;-) |
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``Erik |
about 34f ? |
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clock_ |
shy stirring water? You should generate
electricity! |
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brlcad |
it was about 38 this morning without the
wind |
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brlcad |
the wind is usually the killer |
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clock_ |
shy -> why |
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``Erik |
no leather jacket, cap, and scarf while
rowing? :} |
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brlcad |
I looked at getting one of those generator
motors .. but building the contraption is something I don't quite
have time to do right now :) |
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clock_ |
brlcad: you could support the weak national
grid |
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brlcad |
not too weak around here, but yet ;) |
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``Erik |
grids aren't quite national here, and the
weakness is in wires being snapped or dug up, not
overdrawn |
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clock_ |
brlcad: I made a new holder for ronja http://images.twibright.com/tns/1f25.html |
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clock_ |
I think it will be better to not try modeling
it because it contains planes tangential to cylinder which I don't
know how to make in BRL-CAD |
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clock_ |
Welding a prototype is more cost-effective
option that trying to model it in brl-cad |
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clock_ |
jog? |
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clock_ |
jogging leads to hammered down knees |
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clock_ |
watching tv is the only safe
activity |
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archivist |
na a lot of tv damages the brain |
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``Erik |
I watch lots of tv and have no dain
bramage |
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CIA-5 |
BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald *
10brlcad/src/librt/g_metaball.c: cope with a zero point
metaball |
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CIA-5 |
BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald *
10brlcad/src/mged/edsol.c: |
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CIA-5 |
BRL-CAD: Metaball: Implemented add and delete
pt. Improved keypoint display. Fixed |
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CIA-5 |
BRL-CAD: "second edit" crash. |
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clock_ |
bam drainage |
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brlcad |
cool |
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``Erik |
heh |
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``Erik |
"I really thought the kids would get a big
kick out of a scorpion filled pinata" |
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archivist |
Ive had a scorpion walk over my foot when I
was a kid |
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Twingy |
I've been bopped! |
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test34 |
I just installed brlcad and I created a
primitive but it doesnt show up in the graphical window (I'm
following VolumeII_Introduction_to_MGED.pdf).. any idea what could
be wrong? (I tried to create a primitive from the command prompt
and from the menus) |
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test34 |
If I type: l sph1.s, I get V 0 0 0 .. does
that mean volume is 0 ? |
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test34 |
V (0, 0, 0) |
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test34 |
the rest of the tutorial displays correctly as
I do it |
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test34 |
(ie the radio) |
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Twingy |
try another primitive |
22:25.18 |
test34 |
hmm it works now.. maybe it was just out of
sight? |
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Twingy |
or your clipping plane prevented you from
seeing it |
22:25.59 |
Twingy |
you can always turn clipping off under the
menu |
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test34 |
ok thanks |