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01:20.32 Maloeran Ahh... This place is crazy, I'm totally not at my place
01:21.27 Maloeran There didn't have whatever kind of room Survice had reserved, so they gave me a suite. There's even a large table for 6 persons in there
01:21.35 Twingy call the gnome!
01:21.50 Maloeran So hum, any suggestion where to eat nearby on foot from the Renaissance harborplace thing?
01:21.59 Twingy McDonalds!
01:22.33 Maloeran I'll try that sometimes! But not today, I haven't eaten since 9h this morning, so I need actual food
01:23.20 Twingy how are you transporting this time?
01:23.54 Maloeran By foot, if I understood the question
01:24.16 Maloeran Seriously, any suggestion where to eat nearby? I assume you people know Baltimore a bit
01:24.21 Twingy is this the place across from the wingate?
01:24.54 Maloeran This is in Baltimore, some huge classy luxurious hotel where I feel totally out of my environment
01:25.18 Twingy survice has a place in baltimore? learned something new today
01:26.02 Maloeran No, I'm there for visualization conference 29th to 3rd
01:26.32 Maloeran I'll just walk randomly if you don't have any suggestion
01:27.24 Twingy I'm clueless when it comes to baltimore, I live in my basement
01:28.01 Maloeran :) Okay. Herein begins the quest for food! Be back later
01:29.23 Twingy 9:30 pm, good luck
01:31.12 iday inner harbor
01:31.43 iday thar be food there...
01:31.43 Twingy I'm still on a macaroni and cheese budget until the next pay raise
01:31.46 iday ha
01:31.58 Twingy more than one of my pay checks goes to the monthly morgage
01:32.00 iday whatever - if you didn't spend it all on solar panels
01:32.07 iday you'd have more
01:32.23 Twingy not at the moment
01:32.26 iday for most people it is that way ;-)
01:32.30 Twingy I'm spending money I won't see till february
01:32.56 iday i just got a VGR of 12730 on my machine
01:34.14 iday but i must get back to HW
01:34.24 iday BTW - talked to drew thursday
01:34.40 Twingy kk
01:35.01 iday literally caught him walking to his car to leave - but everything seems on track
01:35.31 iday just waiting for the announcement
01:35.54 Twingy my adrt stuff seems to be done
01:35.56 iday told him not to be concerned about hred - i do need to make things clear to troy though....
01:35.59 iday yay!
01:36.02 iday no more ww
01:36.06 iday for you!
01:36.18 Twingy right-o
01:36.40 Twingy it's like 1.5x with doubles and 2x with floats
01:36.49 Twingy so I kept up my end of the bargain
01:37.03 iday did you ever get in any sse stuff?
01:37.04 Twingy I haven't even optimized my junk either
01:37.09 iday ok
01:37.12 Twingy I'm just rushing it to get it done
01:37.15 iday that probably answers my question
01:37.18 Twingy :)
01:37.45 Twingy I've been working on gcam all day
01:37.47 iday since sse is a major part of the optimized nurbs rendering - i started looking into last week
01:37.54 iday cool
01:37.58 Twingy I finally have the capability to design a full aircract fuselage
01:38.06 Twingy *craft
01:38.13 Twingy I think I will design one for AMA
01:38.16 Twingy for fun
01:38.21 Twingy I have the balsa in the garage
01:38.25 iday :-)
01:38.26 iday nice
01:38.34 Twingy you should make your own too :)
01:38.35 iday formers and everything?
01:38.42 Twingy I will use foam and balsa only
01:38.46 Twingy no monokote
01:38.48 iday i thought about doing some model aircraft design
01:38.51 iday it would be fun
01:38.51 Twingy that stuff is a headache
01:38.59 Twingy yes, lot's of fun
01:39.03 Twingy gcam is a big headache though
01:39.10 Twingy trying to make intuitive gui's and stuff
01:39.16 iday although i have like 3/4 planes waiting to be built in my workshop
01:39.24 Twingy ah
01:39.28 iday guis are difficult
01:39.29 iday that
01:39.35 iday is all there is to it
01:40.11 iday the interesting thing is: you can make a better looking gui than the code
01:40.34 iday iow - the gui looks good - but the code is spaghetti :-(
01:40.41 Twingy my sketch and extrude paradigm is very handy if you use it right
01:41.11 Twingy you could in theory use brl-cad to accomplish what I'm trying to do
01:41.26 Twingy but you would have to modify it only use arcs and lines
01:41.34 Twingy and be able to order things
01:41.44 iday brl-cad sketch tool is POS
01:41.46 Twingy without ordering you will lose your structure as you mill
01:41.51 iday everyone knows that ;-)
01:41.57 Twingy most people just want to do a dxf
01:42.05 Twingy but they don't understand they need to cut the insides out first
01:42.08 Twingy them the outter perimiter
01:42.13 Twingy otherwise it'll get thrown around
01:42.25 iday yeah - hahaha (visualizing the result)
01:42.36 Twingy on the very last layer the machine literally spits it out
01:42.48 Twingy in any random direction
01:42.58 Twingy about 1 - 4 inches
01:44.13 Twingy I need to buy a sheet of that pink fomular insulation for home
01:44.29 Twingy very handy when it comes to building models
01:44.50 iday yes - they use it all the time in MA and other mags
01:44.53 Twingy like $20 for a 2' x 8' sheet
01:44.59 iday especially for 3d electrics
01:45.15 Twingy highly flamable, but oh well :)
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02:06.00 Twingy one of these days I'm going to have to leave this house on the weekend
02:35.34 Twingy argh, meltdown
02:38.01 Maloeran My brain is still running in french mode, I started ordering in french, and later said "thank you" in french
02:38.21 Twingy at least yours is running
02:38.25 Twingy mine is crawling right now
02:38.30 Maloeran The waitress was more amused than annoyed, fortunately
02:38.41 Maloeran Lack of sleep?
02:38.51 Twingy plenty of sleep
02:39.09 Twingy gcam is becoming quite a handful
02:39.16 Maloeran Lack of vitamin B6, B12 and Omega 3?
02:39.20 Maloeran Ah, too much work :)
02:39.37 Twingy working 14 hours a day on it 7 days week gets to you
02:40.00 Maloeran Yes, tell me about it. I took a little break recently
02:40.07 Twingy I went running today...
02:40.27 Twingy every time I add a new feature
02:40.36 Twingy I hear a thousand years complain
02:40.44 Twingy s/years/users
02:41.01 Twingy in my head of course
02:41.02 Maloeran Complaining because features are added? How so?
02:41.30 Maloeran Oh :), I thought it was a handful of users with really loud voices, or perhaps a lot of echo
02:42.18 Twingy you crack me up :)
02:43.34 Maloeran I'm a bit annoyed as the hotel's wireless barely reaches my room/suite on the 7th floor, the signal is too weak. I have to connect from the lobby
02:45.08 Twingy can you boost the power in the driver?
02:45.40 Twingy some times the mcu on the card will let you adjust the regulator
02:45.53 Maloeran Good idea, there are iwconfig settings for that, I never tried though
02:46.00 Twingy assuming it's an adjustable regulator
02:46.43 Maloeran It's a bit weird to have a full featured suite with a conference room built-in, but no wireless
02:48.29 Twingy no it's not
02:48.54 Twingy wireless is outsourced by a third party
02:49.12 Twingy they don't care who gets what coverage
02:49.17 Twingy just as long as there is coverage
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06:18.47 PKMOBILE im movin tomorrow! hooray!
06:18.52 PKMOBILE and i start work monday
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22:08.20 Maloeran Hrmph. So where are you guys, ``Erik, brlcad? Haven't seen you around yet
22:12.06 Maloeran I was in the medical visualization presentations, seemed more interesting than the... other weird stuff
22:12.26 Maloeran Not too sure why I'm here for yet, though
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22:39.23 Maloeran Doh.
22:39.30 Maloeran Is it the same for Erik and Lee?
22:39.43 brlcad you're probably there just to sponge up information and ideas, rarely any *specific* reason
22:40.02 Maloeran Seriously, what am I doing here? :) This has nothing to do in any way with what you people ar edoing
22:40.03 brlcad no, they're going to be there most of the week
22:40.04 Maloeran are doing, even
22:40.33 brlcad visualization? there's quite a bit of that
22:40.38 Maloeran Do you know if they were present today?
22:40.45 brlcad nope
22:41.12 Maloeran Visualization of complex graphs into 2d planar stuff? Visualisation of thousands of overlapping 2d functions by random sampling?... I think this is way off
22:41.39 brlcad ehm, that's like only one tiny aspect
22:42.12 brlcad if you're comparing just what you've seen in one or two sessions as representing the entire conference, *that* would be way off
22:42.48 Maloeran Right of course, I would have prefered knowing that I could skip a few days
22:43.02 brlcad of specific interest is just about anything related to medical visualization
22:44.22 Maloeran I asked where you guys were staying in Baltimore, when I learned you would drive daily, it should have been implied in the question :)
22:44.46 brlcad well they're supposed to be there all week
22:44.52 brlcad i'm just not
22:45.04 Maloeran Right. Thanks, I must have missed them
22:45.14 brlcad too much of a rush and interrupt into another task I'm working on
22:46.15 Maloeran My time could be used for more productive things too, without throwing 400$ away daily
22:46.36 brlcad you can always sit in a corner and code
22:46.39 Twingy you could have invested that into TwingCo, LLC
22:47.34 Maloeran Mmhm, or stay at the fancy hotel suite. They didn't have anymore of what Survice reserved, so I was given a suite
22:48.24 brlcad i certainly wouldn't be complaining about staying there ;)
22:48.25 Twingy I think you should have made some donations to GCAM instead :P
22:48.32 brlcad even if just to sit in the room and code
22:49.48 Maloeran This is way above my comfort needs, it makes me.. uncomfortable
22:49.56 Twingy hah
22:50.10 Maloeran There's a conference room built-in the suite if you want when passing by
22:55.09 Twingy I think you should walk around as a giant pumpkin on the 31st
22:56.15 Maloeran Woohoo. I lack the costume though. I could try to mimick it
22:56.40 brlcad could make one out of the pillows and sheets
22:56.51 Twingy you remember ftp.cdrom.com/pub/asm/party/XX ?
22:56.53 brlcad i big white pumpkin
22:57.20 Twingy you could do a little pumpkin 3d demo
22:58.02 Twingy I must've downloaded every one of those
22:58.23 Twingy 4kB and I'd be watching 3d fly throughs on my P133 for like 10 minutes
22:58.52 Twingy textured and bump mapped and stuff, would blow me away
23:00.25 Maloeran Eheh. It helps that it's assembly written for one very specific purpose, totally not flexible
23:01.03 Twingy I'm saying have a little fun and write and old school demo with the tracer in like 16kB :)
23:01.30 Twingy I think my libtie is like 9kB
23:01.47 Twingy that's 5kB for a 3d world :)
23:01.52 Twingy the possibilities are endless!
23:02.26 Maloeran I could take a SSE assembly pipeline, and render one highly optimized graph structure stored in the binary, that would fit in a couple kb easily
23:02.35 Maloeran Except, there's not much point :)
23:03.35 Twingy there's never a point to them, but damn cool to watch :)
23:03.59 Maloeran Eheh. I don't really mind if the executable is 4kb of 300kb though
23:04.22 Twingy that's still smaller than MSVC++'s hello world app, so that's cool
23:05.44 Maloeran I think it was Delphi where the default empty executable was 500kb or so
23:08.00 Twingy hmm, I should find out what my pay increase is this week or next
23:55.24 Maloeran little Italy, even

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