irclog2html for #brlcad on 20061112

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19:31.49 brlcad test34: failed?
19:49.09 b0ef would be nice if focus didn't follow mouse
19:49.45 b0ef it makes M-TAB impossible
19:51.35 test34 brlcad, no nothing else failed, I didnt get to it again yet
19:54.10 brlcad b0ef: that's usually something controlled by your window manager, and easily turned off (or use a different window manager that does disable it)
19:54.34 brlcad test34: twas but a joke based on your nick :)
19:54.56 test34 brlcad, ahhh ok;)
19:55.40 b0ef brlcad: but why does this only happen with brlcad?
20:24.05 brlcad b0ef: which platform are you on?
20:24.40 b0ef brlcad: GNU/Linux with metacity-2.12.1
20:25.13 brlcad and focus doesn't follow mouse if you move to another app?
20:26.06 b0ef brlcad: well, in a way, but with brlcad it's impossible to M-TAB the command window when the cursor is in the model window
20:27.04 b0ef brlcad: I have to move the mouse over the command window every time I want to enter a command
20:28.43 b0ef brlcad: am I making myself clear?
20:30.44 brlcad ah, yes
20:31.11 b0ef ;)
20:31.14 brlcad then the complaint really is that it's one a unified window but instead several independent windows ;)
20:31.23 brlcad er, that it's not one window
20:31.47 b0ef ?, not sure I follow
20:32.00 b0ef I really like the separation of windows
20:32.36 brlcad input-wise, what you're wanting is something like having two browser windows open, typing in one but have it show up in the other ;)
20:32.53 b0ef yes
20:33.02 brlcad just that these windows happen to look/behave different
20:33.04 b0ef I intend to use emacs as my input window when I get to it
20:33.32 b0ef I'm not sure if we're talking past eachother;)
20:33.45 brlcad know, I think I get what you're wanting..
20:33.52 brlcad how to get there is unclear
20:34.14 b0ef I want two separate windows, gimp style
20:34.22 b0ef I thought this was the intention;)
20:34.57 b0ef but they behave like they somehow have a relationship;)
20:35.03 brlcad it is, though individual windows don't generally aquire focus in gimp
20:35.14 brlcad aside from the main context ones
20:35.29 brlcad the difference here is that there are two main context windows always
20:35.47 brlcad with different bindings for each
20:36.06 brlcad if the graphics window didn't have key bindings, it'd be easy.. you'd just pass it all through to the command window
20:36.34 brlcad what if there were something like a command window toggle
20:37.00 b0ef well, I really intend to use emacs for brlcad, but have gotten that far, yet
20:37.00 brlcad like hitting M-c would switch focus or something
20:37.35 brlcad "use emacs for brlcad" can mean a whole lot of things
20:37.49 b0ef yeah, that would work, but is it not possible to make M-TAB work?
20:37.51 b0ef well, a brlcad mode
20:37.59 b0ef instead of using the command window
20:38.55 brlcad a geometry major mode for emacs would be sweet
20:39.01 b0ef ;)
20:39.11 brlcad looked into it a little bit years ago, but never got off the ground
20:39.46 brlcad something akin to tar mode would work well for dealing with .g files in emacs
20:41.47 b0ef is verse something planned for brlcad?;)
20:43.55 b0ef maybe a bit premature;)
20:45.09 brlcad you mean using verse itself to communicate
20:45.17 brlcad or distributed modeling in general?
20:45.34 b0ef distributed modeling;)
20:45.43 brlcad ahh, yes that is planned
20:45.52 brlcad though whether verse would be used remains to be seen
20:46.23 brlcad there are several rather viable approaches including verse for the communication backend
20:47.54 b0ef how about making brlcad a daemon?
20:49.23 b0ef then connect interfaces like mged
20:50.08 b0ef and OSC for command protocol;)
21:04.27 brlcad b0ef: that's actually not far off how it currently behaves
21:05.04 brlcad and is exactly what the new interface will do as well, though with a more rigorously defined interface
21:05.35 brlcad OSC?
21:05.42 brlcad operations support command?
21:06.50 brlcad or the sound communications protocol?
21:24.45 b0ef brlcad: excellent;)
21:24.59 b0ef brlcad: yeah, the sound protocol
21:25.33 b0ef the sound in the name is a little misleading;)
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