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16:15.21 ``Erik hm, prasad's not here
16:31.40 brlcad astute observation
16:31.59 ``Erik <-- has a stupid question for the boy
16:32.18 brlcad is there any other sort that he can handle?
16:32.24 ``Erik (here as in 'in channel', not geographically)
16:32.34 ``Erik ummm, actually, there may be some :)
16:33.00 ``Erik just gotta ask up his alley... he was horribly misapplied on that team.
16:33.27 brlcad you mean, questions about burning itching and open sores?
16:34.18 ``Erik some kinds of hardware questions, actually o.O
16:34.25 ``Erik (in a mood? usually I'm the asshole... :D )
16:35.06 brlcad in a good mood
16:35.11 brlcad he's just an easy target
16:35.14 ``Erik true
16:35.17 ``Erik are you on site today/
16:35.21 brlcad nope
16:35.25 ``Erik ah
16:35.32 ``Erik <-- half tempted to go get a beer o.O
16:37.09 ``Erik just don't give teh google any cookies. heh
16:38.18 ``Erik woop
16:38.20 ``Erik s
16:46.14 ``Erik holy crap, the dmg for xcode 2.4.1 is 923 megs
16:47.55 brlcad nice
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16:52.22 ``Erik on the fileserver in /r/Darwin/ if you want...
16:52.56 brlcad aiight
16:53.17 ``Erik (still copying... give it a few minutes)
19:30.29 Maloeran http://goddess.selfip.com/random/Motivation/Courage.jpg
19:36.45 ``Erik cute poster, and every good robot dies some day :/
19:42.13 dtidrow it's offically dead now?
19:42.16 dtidrow bummer
19:46.50 Maloeran They'll try to contact it from Rover on the surface but the odds are very poor
19:48.49 dtidrow yeah
19:49.47 dtidrow it's been living on borrowed time for a while now, anyway - it's lasted five times longer than originally planned for
20:23.36 ``Erik O.o
20:52.05 brlcad yeah, had a great run
20:55.36 brlcad Maloeran: the presentation was a hit, your proggie was one of the highlights of the show too
20:55.45 brlcad thanks for your help with the screenshot and datum
20:58.41 brlcad there was a fare bit of mildly decent discussions about the tradeoffs and considerations of the high speed tracing for analysis purposes
21:02.31 brlcad i'll post up the presentation in a week or two after it's more comprehensively reviewed and polished for your to see unless you'd like to see it as is now fouo
21:11.11 ``Erik did it get taped?
21:11.57 brlcad no, DoD audience
21:12.26 ``Erik ah, heh
21:12.31 brlcad mostly jaspo, jtcg, army, navy, air force, nasa
21:12.46 brlcad +contractors
21:13.26 ``Erik oh, uh, so the gist of the presentation, given the audience, is "we can make it go faster. <silent pause> The End."
21:13.43 ``Erik O:-)
21:14.58 brlcad even higher level than that sorta
21:16.08 brlcad here's what brl-cad is, here's how it fits in to the big pictures, here's some stuff it can do, here's something else called adrt, here's something else even faster called rayforce, here's the tradeoffs when you deal with raytracing and analyses, here are some pretty pictures and graphs, etc
21:16.16 ``Erik but converting it to cocoa would probably be a major hassle
21:16.33 brlcad nothing wrong with carbon
21:16.54 ``Erik well, klugy c++ pushing it, and I don't know it and have no references on it
21:16.56 brlcad it's the way to go if you want to control the run loop tightly
21:17.37 ``Erik heh, the part that needs control is gui free in a thread, the gui just requests it do t hings by putting events in its queue...
21:18.24 ``Erik which is good, I like that, that's how I tend to design guis for things where performance is a concern
21:18.54 ``Erik so I think the gui COULD be awfully loose, cocoa would make it cleaner and easier for me :/
21:31.44 ``Erik bahhhh
22:29.21 Maloeran Nice brlcad, I'm glad to hear it!
22:30.22 Maloeran I wouldn't have expected this kind of visual demonstration to be of any interest to non-technical persons, it's so far beyond gpu rasterization in eye-candyness
22:33.28 Maloeran far behind* :)
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22:40.29 brlcad Maloeran: I can usually put a pretty good spin during a presentation, put things into terms that non-technical people understand
22:41.02 brlcad get them impressed, perhaps even excited
22:41.19 brlcad depends on the material, prep, and context of course ;)
22:41.46 Maloeran *nods* Great, I can't do that :). Even Mark struggled to understand my overview of the raytracer techniques
22:42.54 Twingy if you can get people excited then viagra might try to buy you out
22:44.50 brlcad and'd I'd sell
22:45.21 brlcad cash out early
22:45.32 Twingy cash out while you're still up? *grin*
22:46.18 Twingy mal, who do you report to at survice now?
22:47.24 Maloeran Still Mark but he's supposed to move to Patuxent River ( or something like that ) soon, to be replaced by... Tony Krauss I remember that correctly
22:47.35 Maloeran +if I remember
22:49.12 Maloeran Out of curiosity, do you know this Tony?
22:51.48 Twingy I know a Tony the Tiger, but I dunno a Krauss
22:55.00 Maloeran Oh, might be the same one then. Any updates on Lee's potential leave?
22:56.45 Twingy you're asking me? hehe

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