irclog2html for #brlcad on 20070111

00:08.02 *** join/#brlcad PrezKennedy (n=Matthew@c-69-138-68-160.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
00:22.19 PrezKennedy man i hate doing forms for the government
00:23.07 ``Erik heh...
00:23.16 ``Erik get used to it. even if ya don't work for the gubmint.
00:25.12 PrezKennedy well on the upside they dont need to secretly spy on me anymore
00:25.19 PrezKennedy they know it all anyways
00:52.13 ``Erik heh
00:52.34 ``Erik do ya think they secretly spy on you cuz they NEED to? ;)
01:06.58 PrezKennedy well theres no point in it being secret because they already have it all
04:54.50 *** join/#brlcad b0ef (n=b0ef@084202024060.customer.alfanett.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
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05:06.04 CIA-5 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/Makefile.am: add the generated brlcad.spec file to the dist
08:22.29 *** join/#brlcad clock_ (n=clock@zux221-122-143.adsl.green.ch)
12:48.45 ``Erik oh, wait, added to dist, n/m
12:48.45 ``Erik heh
13:26.49 clock_ I am surprised how the glass looks realistically in BRL-CAD
13:27.14 clock_ And also how BRL-CAD can be used to clarify composition of complicated 3D object better than words or images
13:27.55 clock_ http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Lorries/
13:29.50 archivist most lorries travel outside rush hour so no need
13:30.13 clock_ sorry that was a bad URL
13:30.44 clock_ http://ronja.twibright.com/3d/headcut_mpeg4_asp.avi
13:30.50 clock_ This one is right - the video
15:50.44 clock_ brlcad: can't play it?
15:51.07 brlcad on a different machine, lacks a few codecs
15:51.18 clock_ brlcad: can you play Theora or WMV?
15:51.30 clock_ brlcad: it's encoded with xvid
15:51.39 clock_ xvid or divx codec should be fine
15:51.49 brlcad yeah, no divx here
15:52.05 brlcad nor vorbis.. so perhaps wmv
15:52.06 clock_ brlcad: try http://ronja.twibright.com/3d/headcut_wmv.avi or http://ronja.twibright.com/3d/headcut.ogg
15:54.13 brlcad hm.. even windows media player won't play the wmv
15:54.23 clock_ It's a WMV in AVI container
15:54.59 brlcad it still won't play it regardless :)
15:55.29 clock_ Do you have SP2?
15:55.41 brlcad not a windows box
15:55.49 clock_ A coworker who has Windows XP can play all the videos I generate on my machine
15:55.59 brlcad probably has the codex's installed
15:56.12 clock_ But a colleague who hasn't SP2 cannot play any
15:56.22 clock_ WMV and AVI are Microsoft-specified formats
15:56.42 clock_ archivist: which one did you try?
15:56.54 archivist first and ogg
15:57.01 brlcad yeah, but they are still encoded with a codec regardless of the file format -- the player doesn't like the codec
15:57.18 clock_ archivist: no wonder debian cannot play wmv and MPEG4 - proprietary formats. But not including Theora - no excuse
15:57.46 clock_ There's nothing like player likes/doesn't like the codec
15:57.51 archivist the world does not run according to M$
15:58.04 clock_ If something is encoded in format X, anything compatible to format X must be able to play it
15:58.19 clock_ archivist: Theora is not MS.
15:58.53 clock_ try to play http://ronja.twibright.com/3d/headcut.y4m.bz2
15:59.04 clock_ bzip2 -d it first. It's YUV4MPEG2 and mplayer should be able to play it
15:59.14 clock_ It's a raw video. No encoding.
15:59.21 clock_ Raw Y'CbCr 4:2:0.
15:59.38 clock_ With a couple of extra ASCII headers
16:01.27 clock_ archivist: do you have libtheora installed on your debian? Do you have mplayer?
16:01.37 clock_ VLC on Windows is able to play the Theora
16:02.14 clock_ unfortunately I am unable to encode into Flash or Quicktime
16:02.27 clock_ I could encode into MPEG2
16:02.31 clock_ Can you play MPEG2?
16:02.34 clock_ But it would be huuuge
16:03.52 archivist this box has totem but its going into terminal thrash atm
16:04.38 clock_ terminal thrash == segfault aka signal 11?
16:06.25 *** join/#brlcad docelic (n=docelic@212.91.114.143)
16:07.21 archivist no that bz2 pushed the box to the limit till it crashed only a P2
16:07.51 archivist back to "normal" now
16:08.56 clock_ something is wrong with your system when you cannot unpack zipped files
16:09.19 archivist too much open at once , not enough ram........
16:09.35 clock_ Aren't you running KDE, OpenOffice or Java?
16:10.15 clock_ These programs often eat a lot of memory
16:10.43 archivist no java, no openoffice atm 6 firefox 6 gecko 9 terminal and a few others and a bot in the background
16:11.02 clock_ can you play the .y4m?
16:11.29 archivist as i said the unpack failed, so gave up
16:15.27 archivist after shutting stuff down still using most of swap so gotta do something soon
16:19.06 clock_ archivist: why doesn't your Debian box have Theora?
16:19.51 archivist Ill ask the box and if it has a valid excuse
16:22.57 clock_ Debian politicizes about free software all the time and Theora is THE hallmark perfectly free-software codec
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22:30.10 ``Erik *bakebakebake*
22:39.56 Maloeran Darn, I slided on a patch of ice riding my bicycle and broke a pedal
22:40.29 Maloeran These ultra-light carbon fiber bicycles can't take much of a beating, really
22:42.58 Maloeran I don't have a scratch myself, thanks to these full plate armors in the shape of puffy coats meant to handle -40C
22:45.28 brlcad ouch
22:46.38 brlcad probably smarter than my tendancy to still wear regular bike gear even when it's just a few C
22:47.13 brlcad sucks about the pedal.. at least it wasn't the frame though :)
22:47.15 brlcad or your head ;)
22:47.26 Maloeran It offers surprisingly good protection... but riding through ice and snow is somewhat dangerous, still
22:47.39 Maloeran :) Yes, it isn't too serious
22:48.26 ``Erik no skiis?
22:50.57 Maloeran I haven't tried that yet, I'm not sure it would be legal in the streets of Montreal
22:51.04 Maloeran or in bicycle lanes
22:53.41 ``Erik I'm under the impression that cars tend to fall over slightly less... y'know... 4 big fat tires instead of 2 skinny ones... far less pressure exerted...
22:54.29 ``Erik yeah, $'s and environmental damage, but *shrug* still gotta get from point a to b, not like the old cottage industry days
22:58.54 Maloeran Good point, sure :). Yet, riding a bicycle, including the physical exhaustion releasing endomorphin, is quite pleasant
23:00.10 *** join/#brlcad docelic (n=docelic@212.91.115.131)
23:06.49 ``Erik hmmmm, sometimes... as a hobby, perhaps :)
23:07.10 ``Erik arriving where I need to in comfort is more pleasant to me than stitches on my face :> *duck*

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