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bjorkBSD |
so i've drawn a few boxes and toruses and one
or two other things so far. |
05:56.42 |
bjorkBSD |
applaud me! :D |
06:32.33 |
bjorkBSD |
... or not :| |
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brlcad |
heh |
08:09.32 |
CIA-5 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/sh/header.sh:
remove the abort if the first line isn't detected. instead just
warn and apply the header. also, add prefix to case for portability
and empty argument matching. |
08:10.58 |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/BUGS:
tessellation of some pipe in toyjeep.g fails (rather reliably) on a
bend |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/TODO: add
c-indentation-style to emacs variable block, setting to k&r or
something more appropriate than the gnu default (see
c-set-style). |
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17:30.02 |
``Erik |
$ cvs commit -m 'linux is for
retards' |
17:30.04 |
``Erik |
O:-) |
17:32.11 |
``Erik |
I think I may have librt working in the
framework today... that'd be nifty.. adrt shortly after. and since
I removed the offending source, I can just give it to you when it's
done, instead of going through the public release
procedure |
17:47.10 |
Maloeran |
cvs commit -m 'OSX threading and memory
management are abominable' |
17:48.23 |
Maloeran |
I'll add single-ray non-threaded tracing
functions when I get that source, since there's no other
way |
18:02.02 |
``Erik |
I'm under the impression that some osX
syscalls are ugly performers due to mach microkernel message
passing... |
18:05.17 |
``Erik |
(also; osX uses phkmalloc(), not
dl-malloc) |
18:30.00 |
Maloeran |
I think the fact that the routing system and
codes are completely different is being understood |
18:33.07 |
Maloeran |
I find myself pondering about Intel's latest
Xeons, the Core2 architecture ; though it's limited to 2 sockets
per motherboard |
18:46.22 |
``Erik |
are mark and/or tony informed of the
difficulties? |
18:48.27 |
``Erik |
(librt results being curried back and
performance monitoring is in place... nifty.. oddly enough, single
threaded, fbsd/amd64 2.0ghz is 120krps and linux/ia32 2.0ghz is
34.7krps) |
18:56.49 |
Maloeran |
Are you comparing an Opteron with a Pentium
4? |
18:57.08 |
``Erik |
opteron and xeon |
18:57.22 |
``Erik |
p4-xeon |
18:57.23 |
Maloeran |
They aren't informed, but I think they'll make
this work eventually. I'm just amused from the fact they never knew
canadian banks worked differently |
18:57.43 |
Maloeran |
Well sure, that's a crappy chip in comparison
to an Opteron |
18:57.45 |
``Erik |
they're not an international company...
:D |
19:00.11 |
Maloeran |
Oh well, it's just impatient for I'll order
some nice hardware as soon as it's received |
19:10.50 |
Maloeran |
I'm* just |
19:15.55 |
``Erik |
heh, stupid canucks, doing everything bass
ackwards ;) |
19:18.00 |
Maloeran |
Tsk, how could you ever buy a Pentium 4 ; the
old Athlons were already better back then |
19:19.14 |
Maloeran |
Unless it was forced on you by management, I
had assumed you had a word to say on the hardware you
receive |
19:19.37 |
``Erik |
it was here when I got here |
19:19.45 |
``Erik |
and it had "dell" stamped on the case (it's a
rack mount thingy) |
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19:46.18 |
dtidrow_work |
brlcad: you around? |
19:47.04 |
brlcad |
nope |
19:47.09 |
dtidrow_work |
heh |
20:39.30 |
CIA-5 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad *
10brlcad/src/conv/comgeom/cvt.c: should be using bu_getopt and
friends |
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CIA-5 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/include/bu.h:
update comment, USE_PROTOTYPES is set in configure, not
machine.h |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad *
10brlcad/src/canon/canonize.1: consistency on BRL-CAD where not
technically problematic, s/BRLCAD/BRL-CAD/ |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad *
10brlcad/src/conv/iges/iges.c: more BRL-CAD name consistency. allow
BRLCAD or BRL-CAD in the attribute string. |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/conv/jack/
(g-jack.c jack-g.c): use libbu getopt |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/ (10 files in 4
dirs): consistency on BRL-CAD name use, s/BRLCAD/BRL-CAD/ |
22:03.07 |
Maloeran |
http://www.libregraphicsmeeting.org/index.php
- Some conference in Montreal in May, do you guys want to come
over here for a change? :) |
22:03.39 |
Maloeran |
Perhaps not quite on topics that concern
BRL-CAD though |
22:04.15 |
``Erik |
sounds like it'll be a bunch of french
faggots |
22:04.16 |
``Erik |
:D |
22:04.33 |
``Erik |
<-- might be in ottawa may 18-19 |
22:04.39 |
``Erik |
http://www.bsdcan.org/2007/ |
22:05.50 |
Maloeran |
Tsk Ottawa, come try some of Montreal's
restaurants |
22:07.49 |
``Erik |
heh |
22:08.04 |
``Erik |
the hotel+travel thing mentions hitting
montreal by air, then training to ottawa |
22:08.28 |
``Erik |
unfortunately, it's after your contract is
completed, so I can't use it as an excuse to "meet" |
22:08.30 |
``Erik |
:) |
22:09.07 |
Maloeran |
We can use it as an excuse to... present
Rayforce or something, perhaps a future piece of Blender |
22:10.52 |
Maloeran |
On a related topic, Mark asked if other
contracts were planned or if they could put me on their fire
simulation |
22:10.57 |
``Erik |
blender isn't on the radar with the pointy
hairs |
22:11.21 |
``Erik |
I don't know.. I think the current posture is
"we want to use him, we don't know for what right now" |
22:11.36 |
``Erik |
send me an email at my work addy to remind me
and I'll make noise about it |
22:11.42 |
``Erik |
erikg@arl.army.mil |
22:11.46 |
``Erik |
<-- home right now ;) |
22:12.04 |
Maloeran |
All right. The fire simulation looks fun to
play with, but the project's team seems... weird so far |
22:12.39 |
``Erik |
heh |
22:13.01 |
Maloeran |
From what I have seen so far, a bunch of
engineers writing Fortran77 code, without any real programming
skills |
22:13.27 |
``Erik |
<-- has no binding authority and those with
it rarely notify him, is in the dark |
22:13.35 |
``Erik |
yes, actually |
22:13.35 |
``Erik |
a bit worse |
22:14.49 |
``Erik |
from what I gleaned off of mark when we were
sitting there, there was a fortran coder who write it in floortrash
IV, some dudes (engineer types, no cs background either by
education or experience) who really don't know coding hacked it
until it worked in a f77 compiler, and other people |
22:15.02 |
``Erik |
(again, engineer types) get told to "make it
do something new" every once in a while |
22:15.45 |
Maloeran |
Yes, that's about it. They asked 25-50 words
on my ideas to rewrite the whole thing, they received about 2000
words |
22:15.53 |
``Erik |
typically, that kinda coder has a basic handle
on something as complex as, say, a linked list... but not much
more |
22:16.16 |
Maloeran |
And I really lost on the way... I received
questions like "Which is faster, equations or look-up tables?"
without any background or context |
22:16.26 |
Maloeran |
really lost them* on the way |
22:16.36 |
Maloeran |
Ahaha |
22:17.02 |
``Erik |
(and I consider a method to be a function...
that's how the machine sees it) |
22:17.42 |
``Erik |
to use java mangling, path$to$class$method()
(far less horrible than, say, c++ mangling) |
22:17.43 |
Maloeran |
Mark undertands code better than they do, he's
the only one who was able to write meaningful feedback on the 2000
words summary |
22:18.00 |
``Erik |
there're some people at survice who know their
shit |
22:18.10 |
Maloeran |
I think Mark is great as a manager,
really |
22:18.13 |
``Erik |
and there're some who don't... and that is
everywhere |
22:18.32 |
``Erik |
yeah, tony seems like a decent guy, the switch
isn't gonna really jack anyone, I don't think |
22:19.20 |
``Erik |
probably the most impressive thing about mark
isn't his technical aptitude, but his ability to get the hell out
of the way when the topic goes beyond him |
22:19.56 |
``Erik |
good guy, hope he likes his new position
:) |
22:20.26 |
Maloeran |
I'm apparently sticking to Mark as manager, I
think he prefered to keep it that way |
22:20.34 |
``Erik |
his replacement seems to exhibit the same
ability, as well as a very tech based candor |
22:20.40 |
``Erik |
huh |
22:20.42 |
``Erik |
aight |
22:20.51 |
``Erik |
he's moving south, though |
22:20.55 |
Maloeran |
Example of feedback from the engineers, about
SSE-packed data storage and processing : "In you latest epistle,
you mentioned grouping the grid-cells in 'packages' of four. Since
a cube has 6 sides, why not in groups of 6, one for each face?
" |
22:21.05 |
Maloeran |
Right, I know |
22:21.15 |
``Erik |
I spoze that really doesn't matter if you're
working on non-arl stuff |
22:21.35 |
Maloeran |
I can't see how could one organize the cells
of a region in groups of 6 to match the faces of cubes! It can't be
done! |
22:21.35 |
``Erik |
less rural down there, if/when ya move, I
spoze :) |
22:22.14 |
``Erik |
ah,yes... the snow.. the ice... the car
doors... pleasant living... :D *duck* |
22:22.37 |
Maloeran |
Oh, especially the car doors :) |
22:29.26 |
Maloeran |
I really wonder what this fortran code will
look like, do you have any clue on how big it is? |
22:29.46 |
Maloeran |
I just wonder if it might be possible to
rewrite it all in a short time frame |
22:29.55 |
``Erik |
well |
22:29.59 |
``Erik |
if it falls int he same pattern |
22:30.20 |
``Erik |
90-95% is superfluous |
22:30.20 |
``Erik |
if documentation exists, it's wrong |
22:30.25 |
Maloeran |
I have heard there is a function with 150
parameters in it |
22:30.31 |
``Erik |
and it'll either make your eyes
bleed |
22:30.35 |
``Erik |
or go insane |
22:30.38 |
``Erik |
:D |
22:30.40 |
Maloeran |
Cool! :) |
22:31.01 |
``Erik |
<-- was insane before he started doing paid
work, so just gets the bleeding eyes things |
22:31.11 |
Maloeran |
As long as I can rewrite it all from scratch,
I don't think I really mind ; but I wonder if I'll have
time |
22:40.25 |
brlcad |
Maloeran: seems like a rather tiny
conference |
22:40.42 |
brlcad |
mildly interesting, but it's on the
periphery |
22:43.34 |
Maloeran |
Yes, I'll probably have a look because it's 15
minutes away, but I wasn't seriously expecting you guys to
come |
22:45.10 |
brlcad |
feel free to pimp up brl-cad ;) |
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``Erik |
and let us know how many people show up and
how 'useful' it is :) |
23:38.34 |
brlcad |
looks like about 40-60 showed up last
year |
23:40.48 |
Maloeran |
Ahah |
23:43.53 |
Maloeran |
Where did you see that, brlcad? |
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