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| 00:41.08 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/380357 <---- mged no longer crashes on e all from terra.g |
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| 01:16.49 | IriX64 | back. |
| 01:16.52 | IriX64 | :) |
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| 04:35.24 | brlcad | IriX64: 7.8.4 nor cvs head use comments like you showed in the pastebin.. that brace belongs there else it's a syntax error to close it |
| 05:22.11 | IriX64 | darn, thought i found something, ill keep looking. |
| 05:23.34 | IriX64 | it's sorta like fishing, you know, sometimes you have to throw it back :) |
| 05:44.16 | brlcad | er.. it's not missing from any of my sources |
| 05:44.30 | brlcad | maybe you accidentally deleted it at some point |
| 05:44.49 | IriX64 | could be, i shoot myself in the foot regularly :) |
| 05:45.12 | brlcad | why you'd be messing with that particular macro is curious (and semi-dangerous) |
| 05:45.17 | IriX64 | but fact remains mines fixed. |
| 05:45.39 | IriX64 | told you terra crashed mged now it doesn't. |
| 05:45.41 | IriX64 | ty. |
| 05:47.18 | brlcad | yeah, I heard -- excellent |
| 05:47.28 | brlcad | you applied the same patch, or updated your sources to cvs? |
| 05:47.46 | IriX64 | i don't have cvs, i patched my code. |
| 05:47.57 | IriX64 | err your code :) |
| 05:48.03 | brlcad | your code |
| 05:48.17 | brlcad | it's open source |
| 05:48.20 | brlcad | it's your code too |
| 05:48.26 | IriX64 | ty |
| 05:49.06 | IriX64 | say is that tank car military property or can images of it be posted in public places? |
| 05:50.16 | brlcad | heh, if it's something you have .. then it's open sourced |
| 05:50.31 | IriX64 | just want to be sure. |
| 05:50.43 | brlcad | I *think* all of the geometry files are BSD'd (and if not BSD'd then LGPLd) |
| 05:50.49 | brlcad | as are all the images |
| 05:50.58 | IriX64 | good to know. |
| 05:51.32 | brlcad | which tank car anyways? |
| 05:51.45 | brlcad | tank_car.g? |
| 05:51.48 | IriX64 | geometric solutions its in your examples. |
| 05:51.53 | IriX64 | thats the one. |
| 05:51.54 | brlcad | ahh, yes |
| 05:54.16 | brlcad | COPYING says most of the geometry models are BSD licensed, so you can probably go with that unless the geometry file has data that says otherwise (which none do) |
| 05:55.11 | IriX64 | thanks for clarifying, im not gonna distribute them, just put them up for friends to see whats possible with BRL-CAD. |
| 05:55.51 | IriX64 | should have looked in copying duh. :) |
| 05:55.51 | brlcad | alas the best cool stuff can't be put into db/ |
| 05:56.21 | IriX64 | like stryker? :) |
| 05:56.26 | brlcad | damn national security interests and classification mumbo jumbo ;) |
| 05:56.33 | IriX64 | heh |
| 06:11.09 | brlcad | IriX64: you'll need this next update |
| 06:11.41 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/librt/g_dsp.c: whoa that's a big typo. dsp_name is a struct bu_vls.. have to get the address to check/print it. |
| 07:03.22 | ``Erik | heh |
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| 19:43.29 | IriX64 | www.spaces.live.com/IriX64 <==== I photon mapped a tank car :) |
| 19:54.29 | brlcad | that actually looks better than I would have expected |
| 19:55.08 | IriX64 | not too shaby is all i have to say, 20 minutes to complete. |
| 19:55.55 | IriX64 | running benchmark right now, out of curiosity. |
| 19:58.19 | IriX64 | not bad, 100% cpu usage user time, glitches to 20% kernal time. |
| 20:03.55 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/381345 <--- if you're interested in a make benchmark here. |
| 20:13.01 | ``Erik | but, uh |
| 20:13.01 | ``Erik | whoa |
| 20:13.05 | ``Erik | 3 vgr's??? |
| 20:13.27 | ``Erik | wait, no, heh, 1234 vgr's |
| 20:13.42 | IriX64 | wonky eh ? :) |
| 20:13.51 | ``Erik | still awfully slow |
| 20:14.03 | IriX64 | ahh well tis a home puter after all. |
| 20:14.19 | IriX64 | helps develop patience.:) |
| 20:17.18 | IriX64 | heh maybe the numbers wrapped. |
| 20:17.47 | ``Erik | unlikely |
| 20:17.53 | IriX64 | true. |
| 20:18.03 | ``Erik | but from the results you posted, you forgot "--enable-optimized" |
| 20:18.23 | IriX64 | debug is in there too. |
| 20:18.26 | ``Erik | read lines 125-127 |
| 20:18.36 | ``Erik | they tel you how to do it "right" |
| 20:18.54 | IriX64 | just ran it out of curiousity, Im not trying to set a speed record here. |
| 20:19.27 | ``Erik | that's cool, but if you want to compare the vgr number to anything, you really need to run it "the right way" |
| 20:20.01 | IriX64 | as i said... |
| 20:20.16 | ``Erik | but from my seat, even fi you scored a million vgr's, that's not hte part that impresses me |
| 20:20.24 | IriX64 | not interested in a bigger one comparison :) |
| 20:20.30 | ``Erik | there are fugly-arsed winderz2k decorations on that window.... |
| 20:20.48 | ``Erik | not exactly the most native of OS's :) that it ran at all is pretty impressive |
| 20:21.16 | IriX64 | yeah well not all os's are created equeal. |
| 20:21.24 | ``Erik | given my recent cygwin foibles, I may be begging y ou to write up a windows howto ;) |
| 20:21.57 | IriX64 | hah press start->shutdown->turn computer off is your best bet ;) |
| 20:22.22 | ``Erik | if you weren't talking about it, I wouldn't have even attmpted a cygwin build *shrug* but I am a frakin' portability whore, so I trek to the ugly often :) |
| 20:23.03 | IriX64 | heh you need to replace gcc with one that wasn't created "specially" for cygwin. |
| 20:23.34 | ``Erik | <-- has both a full cygwin and a full mingw path |
| 20:24.10 | ``Erik | I made several sysV compablity commits on friday, if you didn't notice.... |
| 20:24.23 | IriX64 | uhh, no I didn't. |
| 20:24.30 | ``Erik | and I intend to get it "working" on cygwin, then on mingw... |
| 20:24.32 | ``Erik | and,y 'know |
| 20:24.53 | ``Erik | my boss who would argue against the effort... can go fuck herself. |
| 20:24.55 | ``Erik | *cough* |
| 20:25.19 | IriX64 | heh she'll fire you ``Erik :) |
| 20:25.59 | ``Erik | yea, uh |
| 20:26.04 | ``Erik | these days |
| 20:26.10 | ``Erik | I can find another job readily enough. |
| 20:26.27 | IriX64 | she may "invite" you to. |
| 20:26.47 | IriX64 | ``Erik... |
| 20:27.27 | IriX64 | i've been working with Cygwin, since Cgnus Solutions first unveiled it, you want a copy of the arvive I started with? |
| 20:27.39 | IriX64 | archive too. |
| 20:28.08 | IriX64 | Cygnus too. |
| 20:30.13 | IriX64 | for instance you use a batfile to run bash, me i simply run login. |
| 20:30.58 | IriX64 | which reminds me I've gotta fix my path.. |
| 20:31.55 | ``Erik | hrm, no? :) |
| 20:32.08 | ``Erik | I've been using cygwin since, ummmm, '98? |
| 20:32.18 | ``Erik | but infrequently and with much pain |
| 20:32.26 | ``Erik | I'm a *nix user by heart |
| 20:34.15 | IriX64 | hah OS/2 is what I really like but alas... |
| 20:34.50 | IriX64 | btw i really did get warp 4 up on vmware. |
| 21:02.54 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libtclcad/tclcadAutoPath.c: incrTcl prior to 3.3 apparently didn't provide ITK_VERSION, so accommodate. also quell warning about basename() taking non-const paths on linux. |
| 21:10.07 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: check for the emmintrin.h header for g_brep's vector code; tcl needs libm on linux; bu/bn/rt are tied to tcl |
| 21:11.37 | bjorkBSD | what's so great about os/2, IriX64? |
| 21:12.09 | IriX64 | brlcad: theres something funny about kern.argmax in configure.ac too. |
| 21:12.39 | IriX64 | bjorkBSD: it runs my pm bbs :) |
| 21:12.55 | bjorkBSD | pm bbs? |
| 21:13.06 | bjorkBSD | surely there's no one left on the bbs-verse is there? |
| 21:13.28 | ``Erik | os/2 had its advantages... back in the day... |
| 21:13.58 | bjorkBSD | i thought os/2 was ms-windowslike... |
| 21:14.28 | ``Erik | os/2 was a variant of MS-DOS that provided omfg real OS like facilities... |
| 21:14.40 | ``Erik | I think w2k was enouhg to supercede it |
| 21:15.07 | ``Erik | bear in mind, we're talkin' 1985 vs 2000... |
| 21:15.56 | ``Erik | ibm and ms worked on a joint project, got pissed at eachother and went their seperate ways... it took ms 15 yrs to hit the same quality metric as ibm |
| 21:16.43 | bjorkBSD | ibm is a much larger company. |
| 21:16.59 | bjorkBSD | but it's remarkable that they entrusted their early efforts to a start up... |
| 21:17.05 | ``Erik | depends on how you quntify it |
| 21:17.22 | ``Erik | I mean, these days, msft as almost 3x the market cap |
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| 21:18.17 | brlcad | IriX64: there is no kern.argmax in configure.ac |
| 21:20.37 | bjorkBSD | and who still uses BBSes? |
| 21:23.21 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/include/vector_x86.h: apparently some linux systems don't have emmintrin.h |
| 21:24.03 | ``Erik | expecially ones that aren't running on x86 procs |
| 21:24.27 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/include/vector.h: common.h comes before all system headers. wasn't able to find an alternative (though I didn't look really hard) for emmintrin.h, so if the header doesn't exist don't do the x86 vector foo. |
| 21:25.35 | iday | the weird thing is that SSE2 and GNUC must be defined - so it's likely a gcc issue |
| 21:25.55 | iday | well - maybe not |
| 21:25.58 | brlcad | they were both defined |
| 21:26.11 | brlcad | yet not that header |
| 21:26.12 | iday | trying to remember where emmintrin.h is located |
| 21:26.23 | iday | thought it was in gcc dir, but maybe not |
| 21:26.53 | iday | on the mac it is... |
| 21:27.12 | brlcad | try a build on either of the linux server twins |
| 21:27.47 | iday | "twins" ? |
| 21:27.53 | brlcad | on/off |
| 21:28.00 | iday | I'm not saying I don't believe you |
| 21:28.08 | iday | i just looked for the file on the server twins |
| 21:28.18 | iday | it's not there... but it's a gcc issue i say! |
| 21:28.35 | iday | on every system that has it - it's in a gcc directory |
| 21:28.35 | brlcad | looks like it might be a gcc 4 thing |
| 21:28.40 | iday | no |
| 21:28.45 | iday | erg has gcc 3.x |
| 21:29.38 | iday | "/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/3.4.3/include/emmintrin.h" |
| 21:30.11 | iday | "/usr/lib/gcc/i686-apple-darwin8/4.0.1/include/emmintrin.h" |
| 21:30.21 | iday | argh |
| 21:31.25 | iday | but it *could* be a gcc version issue |
| 21:32.13 | iday | doesn't change the check though: no emmintrin, no sse2. at least not without gcc builtins |
| 21:32.14 | IriX64 | brlcad search for kern, its in the bsd stuff. |
| 21:32.29 | brlcad | almost guaranteed to be a version issue.. it's not a partial gcc install |
| 21:32.45 | brlcad | IriX64: I searched for kern, there is no reference to kern in configure.ac |
| 21:33.03 | brlcad | *configure.AC* .. maybe you're looking at configure |
| 21:33.16 | IriX64 | err sorry quite right. |
| 21:33.18 | brlcad | iday: there is mmintrin.h and xmmintrin.h that apparently preceeded it |
| 21:33.27 | brlcad | http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewcvs/gcc/gcc/config/i386/emmintrin.h?rev=1.18&root=gcc&view=log |
| 21:33.44 | brlcad | only been around since 2003, gcc 3 predates that by quite a bit iirc |
| 21:34.54 | iday | xmm is sse, mm is mmx, emm is sse2 |
| 21:34.58 | brlcad | looks like it was added circa 3.3 |
| 21:35.24 | iday | that would probably be about right - pIVs were the first with sse2 i think |
| 21:35.44 | iday | course - the intrinsics were most likely added later still |
| 21:35.53 | iday | (everyone used asm before that) |
| 21:35.55 | brlcad | on/off have gcc 3.2.3 |
| 21:36.04 | iday | yah |
| 21:36.11 | iday | funny that on/off define SSE2 |
| 21:36.20 | iday | but gcc may have the builtins, but not the intrinsics |
| 21:37.06 | brlcad | pretty sure the hardware supports it, probably one of the earliest impl's |
| 21:37.17 | brlcad | being xeon and all |
| 21:38.19 | brlcad | either way, just needed a lil extra so it doesn't fail compile.. don't really care if something that old actually uses it or not myself ;) |
| 21:47.58 | iday | yeah - i don't care either - just procrastinating on my homework |
| 21:48.52 | iday | sorry 'bout the bug though - what can I say - I'm a Crappy Coder ® |
| 22:18.26 | IriX64 | brlcad: sorry bout that. |
| 22:21.44 | IriX64 | +it. |
| 22:24.31 | IriX64 | here's an idea, transparent task bar for windows xppro;) |
| 22:25.55 | IriX64 | " I don't know, but I been told, if you serve you'll never grow old";) |
| 22:35.56 | IriX64 | would it be so hard to put a ls command in mged? |
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| 22:55.45 | ``Erik | mged has a ls command... |
| 23:01.06 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/bwish/main.c: interesting this worked before.. need tcl.h before tclInt.h |
| 23:03.20 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: linux needs libxss too for tk |
| 23:04.10 | brlcad | if you want a shell ls, "exec ls" in mged, else it's a listing of geometry |
| 23:09.04 | IriX64 | ty |
| 23:10.05 | IriX64 | works, thanks. you could have said see the docs :) |
| 23:21.38 | ``Erik | hehehehe "rtfm"? :D |
| 23:38.27 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/mged/Makefile.am: tclcad needs to come before the others so it can resolve tk/Xss symbols |