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00:25.23 IriX64 ``Erik rtfkm = read the finest kind manual :)
00:28.04 IriX64 you think your basement technology is slow... I wound up with 481.80 rays/sec (wallclock) on this last shot. :)
00:31.53 ``Erik my basement gear is very old and slow.
00:32.24 ``Erik I mean. 850mhz athlon with 384m ram is hardly a scream machine
00:33.56 IriX64 whole lotta commands in mged.
00:35.33 IriX64 dir
00:36.09 IriX64 sorry... creepy child that I am. :)
00:41.52 brlcad ``Erik: that can't be the slowest you still have?
00:44.00 Twingy demon plane is 50% restored
00:44.12 brlcad i think my slowest is an old full tower 486 66Mhz
00:44.53 brlcad with a working 5.25" *and the glorious "turbo" button
00:45.14 Twingy were you one of the cool kids that changed it to say "Hi" and "Lo"
00:45.30 Twingy I remember spending like 3 hours one evening figuring out the jumpers to put custom message
00:45.31 brlcad heh, no .. not that "cool"
00:45.58 brlcad there is no message actually, it's a custom case, the button is unlabeled
00:46.06 brlcad just clicks
00:52.16 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/archlinux/.cvsignore: ignore the generated files
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03:12.24 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/other/incrTcl/itcl/generic/Makefile.am:
03:12.24 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: even if linking against a system tcl, incrtcl needs access to tcl's private
03:12.24 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: headers in order to compile (tclInt.h in particular). this fixes compilation
03:12.24 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: error reported in sf bug 1672166 (Build attempts to use non-public Tcl header,
03:12.25 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: reported by Andrew P. Lentvorski, Jr. - bsder).
03:40.29 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/other/incrTcl/itcl/generic/Makefile.am: one per line cppflags
03:40.54 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/other/incrTcl/itk/generic/Makefile.am:
03:40.54 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: even if linking against a system tcl, incrtk needs access to tcl's private
03:40.54 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: headers in order to compile (tclInt.h in particular). this fixes compilation
03:40.54 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: error reported in sf bug 1672166 (Build attempts to use non-public Tcl header,
03:40.54 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: reported by Andrew P. Lentvorski, Jr. - bsder).
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04:15.00 Twingy about 90 minutes worth of work left on the demon plane before it can fly again
04:15.51 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/other/ (tcl/unix/configure tk/unix/configure): recursive autogen.sh/autoreconf works with ac_config_subdirs, so configure is properly regenerated. don't need/want it in cvs since it's repeatedly updated.
04:17.04 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libsysv/Makefile.am: typo, missing trailing slash
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05:28.47 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/autogen.sh:
05:28.47 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: improve the version number processing so that older oddities like automake
05:28.47 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: 1.4-p6 are better parsed and compared as that the old version doesn't sneak in
05:28.47 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: as 1.46 but as 1.4.6 instead. add a verbose debug line so it's more obvious
05:28.47 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: what's being compared.
05:34.13 PrezKennedy crazy programmers working late nights
05:35.58 brlcad howdy seƱor kennedy
05:36.12 brlcad it's not late
05:39.18 PrezKennedy not terribly late... but wouldnt catch me doing IT stuff at this hour unless the building was on fire
05:39.20 PrezKennedy :-)
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05:47.24 cad95 hey, man, I just installed brlcad and it works great, but i have a common question...
05:51.45 brlcad hopefully someone will have a common answer ;)
05:52.17 brlcad PrezKennedy: if the building was on fire, I think that's one of the few times you *wouldn't* catch me doing IT stuff
05:53.08 PrezKennedy haha IT as in "I Take" stuff
05:53.11 cad95 can I script an animation without compiling a c program?
05:54.22 brlcad cad95: yes, it's a bit arduous, but doable
05:54.32 cad95 ok
05:55.15 brlcad there are at least two animation tutorials, a more extensive one on the website in report format and a shorter one that was posted to the brlcad-users mailing list several months back
05:55.40 brlcad they have different approaches/complexities, depending on what exactly you need
05:56.18 brlcad but basically they both hinge around either capturing keyframes in mged, and/or rendering frames with one of the raytracers
05:57.29 cad95 that is what I need
05:57.29 cad95 thank you
05:57.31 brlcad clock (one of the guys usually in here but not at the moment) recently made some nifty animations of a model he made that he posted to http://ronja.twibright.com/ronja_video.php
05:58.52 brlcad one of the more common simple scripting approaches is to use rt with the -a -e options (for azimuth and elevation), rendering to files from a script and then compositing them with your favorite movie encoder
05:59.34 brlcad or saving keyframes in mged using various commands like aet, saveview, size, etc
06:00.46 brlcad if you need to go the mged route (because it overs considerable more control over the view manipulation), it's often useful to note that you can run any single mged command from a shell script like: mged -c file.g some_object some_command
06:00.55 cad95 i'll probly go with the composite approach
06:01.45 cad95 that command sounds useful though
06:01.45 brlcad oops, typo .. mged -c file.g some_command
06:01.50 brlcad you don't specify an object
06:01.58 brlcad e.g. mged -c file.g tops
06:02.06 brlcad mged -c file.g ls some_object
06:04.00 brlcad for object in `mged -c db.g ls` ; do rt -o file${object}.pix db.g $object ; pix-png file${object}.pix > file${object}.png ; rm -f file${object}.pix ; done
06:04.38 brlcad just another example using mged and rt together.. renders every single object in the database to a png file
06:04.55 brlcad not very practical or useful, of course, but gives you the idea hopefully
06:05.22 cad95 ya, sure
06:06.14 cad95 i'm not used to the varables but i can manage directing a file with a list
06:08.39 brlcad you can also do that exact same operation entirely in mged given mged's command line is a full tcl shell
06:10.16 cad95 should i worry about classified information on the web reguarding brlcad?\
06:11.23 Maloeran If it's on the web, I don't think it's classified ;)
06:12.28 cad95 i'm just asking because the first thing i ran into on the mailing list was a title that said unclassified in all upercase
06:12.43 cad95 i don't know what that's about but it kind of made me think
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06:42.59 brlcad apparently less than a week
06:45.54 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/other/tcl/unix/ (Makefile.in configure.in): tcl/tk doesn't use automake so have to encourage 'make all' to work under IRIX make
07:08.52 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libtclcad/Makefile.am: save problem as earlier, need to find private tcl/tk headers even if linking against system that doesn't have them installed
07:24.19 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/other/incrTcl/itcl/generic/itclInt.h: include common.h so that we avoid tcl's compat headers (this wouldn't be an issue if we let incrtcl run it's configure)
07:28.59 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/bwish/Makefile.am: itk needs access to tcl/tk private headers (time to consider moving this to ITK_CPPFLAGS)
07:30.40 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/bwish/ (main.c tcl.c): remove the #include of the private tclInt.h header .. "shouldn't" need it
07:32.09 brlcad so there obviously are still some issues, but it's starting to come together finally
07:33.09 brlcad have mac and linux successfully compiling and testing now
07:33.58 brlcad now working on irix and bsd (which might be done, all good so far) .. and once those two are passing...
07:39.46 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/mged/Makefile.am: hm, should be the last one that uses itk and needs to be able to find the internal headers
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17:46.54 IriX64 http://www.pastebin.ca/382469 <==== your code behaving itself ;)
17:48.38 IriX64 brlcad: thanks for the fixed g_dsp.c, mged no longer crashes.
17:50.24 IriX64 terra.g is.... unique, should keep it around for testing things like that.
18:14.08 IriX64 http://www.pastebin.ca/382497 <=== my code behaving itself.
18:21.17 IriX64 a 44k hello world program, ouch :)
18:47.38 IriX64 http://www.pastebin.ca/382536 <=== your fix is good, thats terra.g opening up and it even displays it on the graphics screen brlcad.
19:13.19 IriX64 http://www.pastebin.ca/382563 <=== rt too see.
19:26.33 IriX64 Gemetric solutions properly credited for their Tankcar now.
19:26.40 IriX64 Geometric too.
19:26.49 IriX64 on my space i mean.
19:27.17 IriX64 should i include the phone number as in the title of the drawing?
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22:05.11 brlcad no, the phone number is now defunct
22:05.16 brlcad (and should be removed.. hm)
22:06.51 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/db/tank_car.asc: remove the old antiquated/obsolete/defunct GSI phone number.
22:20.19 CIA-7 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/bwish/tcl.c: don't use TclFormatInt() so we can avoid using the private tclInt.h header. the routine is just a macro wrapper around sprintf anyways.
22:23.43 brlcad "not matching up" means what?
22:24.28 brlcad it could have to be the two fixes from last night to get things working with irix make, but I've gotten a pass on bsd since
22:24.40 brlcad maybe something since then
22:33.24 ``Erik http://paste.lisp.org/display/37754
22:53.22 brlcad ``Erik: bizarre failure, but doesn't look like anything cad's doing wrong .. if anything sounds like cruft from a previous build confusing autoconf, probably due to the configure.in update in src/other/tcl/unix
23:15.39 ``Erik Found GNU Autoconf version 2.59
23:15.39 ``Erik Found GNU Automake version 1.9.6
23:15.39 ``Erik Found GNU Libtool version 1.5.22
23:15.57 ``Erik this is on a quad opteron running fbsd... doing an out of dir build

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