00:04.51 |
bjorkBSD |
not me. |
00:06.59 |
``Erik |
... |
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00:20.45 |
IriX64 |
... = and your point is :) |
00:42.44 |
bjorkBSD |
that i'm not delta zap. |
00:53.10 |
IriX64 |
i was thinking we should adopt ... to mean and
your point is :) |
05:24.21 |
brlcad |
woot, finally done with the
application |
05:24.47 |
brlcad |
hopefuly didn't write too much ..
hmm |
06:19.41 |
Twingy |
I'm sure they will write back... "Dear Sean,
thank you for your submission to GSoC, but you've written entirely
too much and have therefore forfeited your entry, have a good
day." |
06:20.06 |
brlcad |
heh, mebbie |
06:20.43 |
Twingy |
I just installed ubuntu 6.10 on my new dell
d420 |
06:20.43 |
Twingy |
got 1280x800 + wifi working without a
hitch |
06:20.46 |
brlcad |
not too shabby |
06:20.48 |
Twingy |
thing weighs like a feather |
06:20.58 |
Twingy |
but still not a mac, doesn't have
itunes |
06:21.17 |
Twingy |
when apple reveals their subnotebooks I might
snag one for personal |
06:21.57 |
Twingy |
for now the D420 will be my email bitch for
work and the occaisonal red-headed-step-child psuedo sidekick for
my *nix software development |
06:22.41 |
brlcad |
you read up on the flash-drive notebook that
is supposed to come out? |
06:23.06 |
Twingy |
its light weight, crappy screen, and awful
speaker(s?) make you want to focus soley on software
development |
06:23.12 |
Twingy |
yes, not impressed |
06:23.15 |
brlcad |
all rumor-mill, of course, but seemed highly
likely/reputable source |
06:23.39 |
Twingy |
I don't see why that can't be emulated at the
kernel layer |
06:23.56 |
Twingy |
I don't like my disk drives fancy |
06:24.07 |
Twingy |
I just like them to work without failure and
be cheap |
06:24.43 |
Twingy |
in fact, I could do without any disk drive for
most of my needs |
06:25.00 |
brlcad |
but then where would you store your
pr0n? |
06:25.04 |
Twingy |
a 1GB flash drive for the OS + nfs for local
use and web for google apps on the road would be plenty |
06:25.15 |
Twingy |
heh, believe it or not I have 0 bytes of pr0n
stored |
06:25.18 |
Twingy |
*gasp* |
06:25.44 |
Twingy |
and I *think* I have 1 illegal star strek
episode and 1 illegal movie on my drive |
06:25.52 |
Twingy |
*trek |
06:26.12 |
Twingy |
the rest is src code and illegal mp3's mixed
with legit aac's from itunes |
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06:26.45 |
Twingy |
all the mp3's are pre-itunes though, cept
maybe a dozen |
06:27.04 |
Twingy |
my hard drive is pretty boring :) |
06:27.14 |
brlcad |
i need to de-aac my music at some
point |
06:28.08 |
brlcad |
mine's probably considerably more .. um ..
incriminteresting .. |
06:29.27 |
Twingy |
banshee plays aac |
06:29.37 |
Twingy |
but I'm not sure if it does the drm'd
ones |
06:29.55 |
brlcad |
yeah, that's what I meant, de-drm them --
aac's just fine |
06:30.05 |
Twingy |
I need a program to go through all my files
and do ogg-96 on them all |
06:30.29 |
Twingy |
I can't tell a difference beyond
ogg-80 |
06:30.42 |
Twingy |
so logically I choose the next step
up |
06:31.03 |
Twingy |
supposedly it's like mp3-160/192 |
06:31.57 |
brlcad |
sounds a bit high, but roughly about that
much |
06:32.36 |
brlcad |
I encode everything as high a bit rate as
it'll do just cause I don't want to ever recode again and really
don't give a damn about the disk space |
06:32.47 |
Twingy |
solar panels will be cranking
tomorrow |
06:33.16 |
Twingy |
almost windy enough to make me not want to fly
tomorrow |
06:33.19 |
brlcad |
i've got itunes set to 320 or whatever that
highest is, for eample |
06:33.44 |
brlcad |
just flap harder |
06:33.48 |
Twingy |
0-5 mph == fun, 5 - 10 mph == interesting, 10
- 15 mph == slightly unpleasant, 15 mph == stupid |
06:34.13 |
Twingy |
tomorrow is 7mph - 13 mph |
06:34.21 |
brlcad |
45 mph == ? |
06:34.39 |
Twingy |
45 mph == build a windmill |
06:35.02 |
brlcad |
only to have the hurricane passing through
blow it away? :) |
06:35.17 |
Twingy |
sooner or later I'm going to build a steam
engine and wire it up to my solar generator |
06:35.19 |
brlcad |
(a small one) |
06:35.54 |
Twingy |
if it weren't for the fact that I need to feed
it ~200V+ DC it'd be tiny |
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17:07.22 |
cad22 |
hello? |
17:08.03 |
brlcad |
hello |
17:08.51 |
Twingy |
hello! |
17:09.11 |
cad22 |
I have been trying to install v 7.8.4 on
amd64 |
17:09.34 |
cad22 |
it crashes on make |
17:09.51 |
cad22 |
on reading the GL/gl.h library |
17:10.16 |
cad22 |
i tried with the no GL option but it still
reads the file |
17:10.44 |
cad22 |
have you heard of anone else having this
problem before? |
17:12.07 |
brlcad |
hmm.. cad22, I haven't |
17:12.14 |
brlcad |
"crashes" on make? |
17:12.21 |
brlcad |
which OS are you on? |
17:12.40 |
cad22 |
Ubuntu 6.06 |
17:12.52 |
brlcad |
what's your configure line? |
17:13.09 |
brlcad |
and are you using CVS sources or latest
tarball? |
17:14.05 |
cad22 |
the first thing I tried was simply
./configure, I have also tried with --without-opengl and with
-with-opengl=no |
17:14.30 |
brlcad |
in the summary at the end, does it say opengl
is off? |
17:14.45 |
cad22 |
yes, I verified that |
17:15.01 |
brlcad |
and are you using CVS sources or latest
tarball? |
17:15.14 |
cad22 |
I downloaded the latest from
sourceforge |
17:15.36 |
brlcad |
so 7.8.4 source tarball |
17:15.40 |
cad22 |
yes |
17:16.10 |
brlcad |
could just be an issue in that old tarball
that I'm forgetting (that was a while ago) .. but where's it
actually failing? |
17:17.41 |
cad22 |
when compiling either dm_obj.c or
dm-ogl.c |
17:17.56 |
cad22 |
(in libdm) |
17:19.31 |
cad22 |
it ends up reading the gl.h file
anyways |
17:19.38 |
brlcad |
hmm, yes |
17:20.12 |
brlcad |
grep HAVE_GL_GL_H
include/brlcad_config.h |
17:20.19 |
brlcad |
what does that report? |
17:20.46 |
brlcad |
and grep DM_OGL
include/brlcad_config.h |
17:21.02 |
cad22 |
#define HAVE_GL_GL_H 1 |
17:21.22 |
brlcad |
well that's odd |
17:21.45 |
brlcad |
you apparently had a GL/gl.h during configure
for that to succeed .. maybe in a different path |
17:21.52 |
cad22 |
I get nothing for the second grep |
17:22.01 |
brlcad |
k |
17:22.55 |
brlcad |
can you copy/paste the compilation line that
fails? |
17:23.22 |
brlcad |
it should say something like: |
17:23.23 |
brlcad |
/bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --mode=compile
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../include -I/usr/X11R6/include
-I/usr/local/include -DBRLCADBUILD=1 -I../../include -pipe
-fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -g -c -o dm_obj.lo `test -f
'dm_obj.c' || echo './'`dm_obj.c |
17:23.36 |
cad22 |
where would I find this? |
17:23.56 |
brlcad |
cd src/libdm && make
dm-ogl.lo |
17:25.19 |
brlcad |
the first line output that says libtool or gcc
is what i'm looking for |
17:25.38 |
cad22 |
I reextracted from the compressed file and am
recompiling again... I had changed stuff. |
17:25.47 |
cad22 |
It will take a minute. |
17:25.49 |
brlcad |
ahh |
17:26.14 |
brlcad |
configure --without-opengl |
17:26.32 |
cad22 |
I had commenteOpenGL support
.......................: no |
17:26.43 |
cad22 |
OpenGL support .......................:
no |
17:27.23 |
cad22 |
(the greps were after configuation and
starting to compile) |
17:28.40 |
cad22 |
ubuntu:~/Desktop/brlcad-7.8.4>cd src/libdm
&& make dm-ogl.loubuntu:~/Desktop/brlcad-7.8.4>cd
src/libdm && make dm-ogl.lo/bin/sh ../../libtool --silent
--mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../include
-I/usr/local/include -I../../include -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing
-fno-common -g -c -o dm-ogl.lo `test -f 'dm-ogl.c' || echo
'./'`dm-ogl.c/bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --mode=compile gcc
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../include
-I/usr/local/include |
17:31.14 |
brlcad |
and well that looks right |
17:31.16 |
brlcad |
and it fails? |
17:31.34 |
cad22 |
ues |
17:31.37 |
cad22 |
yes |
17:31.42 |
cad22 |
usr/include/GL/gl.h:4325: error: syntax error
before '*' token |
17:31.47 |
brlcad |
grep DM_OGL_CFLAGS Makefile |
17:32.00 |
brlcad |
look for the one that has an = |
17:32.04 |
cad22 |
i get a ton of those... and |
17:32.06 |
cad22 |
make[3]: *** [libdm_la-dm_obj.lo] Error
1 |
17:32.32 |
brlcad |
yeah, to be expected.. it shouldn't be doing
anything in that file.. but somehow DM_OGL is set |
17:32.39 |
cad22 |
no result for grep |
17:33.02 |
brlcad |
grep DM_OGL Makefile.am |
17:33.23 |
cad22 |
no result |
17:35.17 |
brlcad |
hrmph |
17:35.31 |
brlcad |
you're in src/libdm when you did the
grep? |
17:35.59 |
cad22 |
no, sorry. I went back to 7.8.4
directory. |
17:36.25 |
cad22 |
#DM_OGL_CFLAGS = -DDM_OGL
-DIF_OGLDM_OGL_CFLAGS =libdm_la_CFLAGS = ${X_CFLAGS} ${DM_X_CFLAGS}
${DM_OGL_CFLAGS} ${DM_WGL_CFLAGS} |
17:36.54 |
cad22 |
ubuntu:~/Desktop/brlcad-7.8.4/src/libdm>grep DM_OGL
Makefile.amDM_OGL_CFLAGS = -DDM_OGL -DIF_OGLDM_OGL_CFLAGS
=libdm_la_CFLAGS = ${X_CFLAGS} ${DM_X_CFLAGS} ${DM_OGL_CFLAGS}
${DM_WGL_CFLAGS} |
17:38.03 |
brlcad |
er, which of those two? |
17:38.03 |
cad22 |
the first was grep DM_OGL_CFLAGS
Makefile |
17:38.03 |
cad22 |
the second was: grep DM_OGL
Makefile.am |
17:38.21 |
brlcad |
ahhh, okay |
17:40.43 |
brlcad |
that says DM_OGL is turned off |
17:40.56 |
brlcad |
yet you say make dm-ogl.lo fails |
17:41.25 |
cad22 |
it shouldn't try to make dm-ogl.lo,
then? |
17:41.58 |
brlcad |
no, it should -- without the DM_OGL define,
it's an empty file |
17:42.18 |
brlcad |
unless if things were different in 7.8.4 and
I'm just not remembering.. lemme get those sources |
17:44.23 |
cad22 |
if it makes any difference: I do have a gl vid
card: firegl v3100. so gl.h is a symbolic link to
glATI.h |
17:44.55 |
brlcad |
that would be why configure should succeed
(assuming you have the libs and the libs actually work as
expected) |
17:45.18 |
brlcad |
but the fact that it has a syntax error ..
implies something wrong in the glATI.h header |
17:45.33 |
brlcad |
usr/include/GL/gl.h:4325 |
17:45.49 |
brlcad |
what is on that line number? |
17:46.00 |
brlcad |
(almost done getting old sources) |
17:46.53 |
cad22 |
there are a ton of those errors, i just picked
one of the last ones: |
17:46.55 |
cad22 |
typedef GLvoid (APIENTRY
*PFNGLGETACTIVEATTRIBARBPROC)(GLhandleARB programObj,
GLuint index,
GLsizei
maxLength,
GLsizei *length,
GLint *size,
GLenum *type, |
17:47.13 |
brlcad |
ahh, I presumed it was one of the first ..
what's the very first error? |
17:47.55 |
cad22 |
there are so many I can't scroll
up... |
17:48.20 |
brlcad |
make dm-ogl.lo 2>&1 | less |
17:49.50 |
cad22 |
it said it was up to date |
17:50.16 |
brlcad |
eep |
17:50.28 |
brlcad |
that means it compiled |
17:50.36 |
brlcad |
maybe a different file is failing |
17:50.40 |
cad22 |
I have tried previously "less"ing but the
errors don't go to the less screen |
17:50.55 |
brlcad |
yeah, you have to redirect stderr .. add
2>&1 |
17:51.27 |
cad22 |
In file included from
dm_obj.c:45:/usr/include/GL/glx.h:67: error: syntax error before
'*' token |
17:51.53 |
brlcad |
okay.. dm_obj.c is failing.. not dm-ogl.c ..
that makes more sense |
17:52.11 |
brlcad |
curious, though .. /usr/include/GL/glx.h:67
is what? |
17:52.55 |
brlcad |
still sounds like a header mixup that should
actually work as you do seem to have the headers |
17:53.10 |
cad22 |
ypedef void (*
PFNGLXBINDTEXIMAGEATIPROC)(Display *dpy, GLXPbuffer pbuf, int
buffer); |
17:53.20 |
cad22 |
cut of the t |
17:53.33 |
brlcad |
ahhh |
17:53.41 |
brlcad |
they're not using contained headers |
17:53.43 |
brlcad |
shame on ati |
17:54.20 |
brlcad |
"Display" is an X11 type .. and they've
apparently not included the X11 header in their glx.h |
17:55.50 |
brlcad |
so to fix.. you can either add #include
<X11/Xlib.h> above the #include for glx.h in dm_obj.c .. or
turn off HAVE_GL_GLX_H and HAVE_GL_GL_H in
include/brlcad_config.h |
17:56.29 |
cad22 |
i'll give the first a try |
17:58.24 |
cad22 |
still get error |
17:58.38 |
brlcad |
exact same line/error? |
17:58.39 |
cad22 |
(still on line 67) |
17:59.06 |
cad22 |
usr/include/GL/glx.h:67: error: syntax error
before 'GLXPbuffer' |
17:59.17 |
cad22 |
#ifdef HAVE_GL_GLX_H# include
<X11/Xlib.h># include <GL/glx.h>#endif |
18:00.07 |
brlcad |
hrmph |
18:01.03 |
cad22 |
the link was already present for gl.h to
glATI.h |
18:01.22 |
cad22 |
there was no link present for glx so I made
one earlier |
18:01.23 |
brlcad |
curious.. wonder if something else maybe is
setting Display, or a #define elsewhere in some other
header |
18:02.13 |
brlcad |
hmm.. that's caution-worthy in itself .. as
those aren't necessarily the only two |
18:03.02 |
brlcad |
still.. failing on display is odd.. add
#include <Xlib/X11.h> and #include <GL/glx.h> above the
stdlib.h line |
18:03.27 |
brlcad |
just to make sure it's not tcl.h or something
silly causing a problem |
18:04.27 |
cad22 |
same error |
18:05.22 |
brlcad |
that's "good" per-se though still leaves us
with the same odd error |
18:05.45 |
cad22 |
(lines now removed above stdlib.h) |
18:06.43 |
brlcad |
it's still looking like something wrong with
your ati headers, though really hard to tell without reading
through the header files |
18:06.53 |
brlcad |
probably just as easy to turn them
off |
18:06.59 |
brlcad |
it doesn't remove functionality |
18:07.05 |
brlcad |
just uses a different mechanism |
18:07.22 |
brlcad |
i.e. comment out HAVE_GL_GLX_H and
HAVE_GL_GL_H in include/brlcad_config.h |
18:08.32 |
cad22 |
(i usually manage to on my own) |
18:09.26 |
brlcad |
if you're willing to provide some sort of
shell access, I'll dig deeper, but it's looking like a rather
bizzare setup issue atm |
18:10.22 |
cad22 |
that seems like it worked |
18:10.38 |
brlcad |
where? |
18:11.01 |
brlcad |
it is one of their least used resources afaik
.. but still.. |
18:11.25 |
``Erik |
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=665363 |
18:11.30 |
``Erik |
http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/07/03/11/0049234.shtml |
18:12.57 |
brlcad |
hrmph.. just saw the wikipedia entry
too |
18:13.23 |
cad22 |
thank you very much fr the help |
18:14.29 |
brlcad |
cad22: no problem |
18:14.45 |
brlcad |
cad22: curious .. would none of the posted
binaries work for you? |
18:15.09 |
cad22 |
the ones I saw were 32 bit |
18:15.14 |
cad22 |
are there 64 bit ones available? |
18:15.58 |
brlcad |
ah, not for that version, for linux
iirc |
18:16.34 |
brlcad |
only because there aren't 7.8.4 binaries
posted.. only a deb |
18:16.45 |
brlcad |
there are 64bit binaries for 7.8.0
iirc |
18:17.01 |
brlcad |
yeah,
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=105292&package_id=113559 |
18:19.10 |
cad22 |
Yes, I do have other 32 bit apps running. I
didn't remember immediately how to do that so tried to compile
first. |
18:19.48 |
``Erik |
amd64 "just works" on the bsd and leenewx
breeds I've messed with |
18:31.02 |
cad22 |
Thank you again. Got mged
running... |
22:41.55 |
IriX64 |
hahha i mean athlon. |
22:47.00 |
IriX64 |
``Erik, what the heck is a metaball? |
22:47.30 |
IriX64 |
s/a/s |
22:48.41 |
Maloeran |
Ask wikipedia on metaballs |
22:49.09 |
IriX64 |
rarely use wikipedia Malorean how do i do what
you suggested? |
22:50.10 |
IriX64 |
rarely= haven't used it yet. |
22:50.11 |
Maloeran |
http://wikipedia.org/ Yype metaball in
the search field, followed by pressing enter |
22:50.48 |
Maloeran |
And you really are missing something, the
world's largest encyclopedia. It's fantastic, I can spend whole
days just reading from it |
22:51.01 |
Maloeran |
Type* metaball, rather |
22:52.08 |
Maloeran |
Actually, their article on metaballs is
surprisingly short in comparison to most others |
22:53.12 |
brlcad |
when all else fails, try what should be
obvious |
22:53.20 |
brlcad |
~google metaballs |
22:53.32 |
IriX64 |
does brlcad use bruteforce or the marching
cubes approach? |
22:53.48 |
IriX64 |
ill remember wikipedia.org, thanks
Maloeran. |
22:56.35 |
IriX64 |
http://www.pastebin.ca/391172
< --- ogl has issues on my system brlcad. |
22:57.46 |
brlcad |
i'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess
that you tried to force opengl on even though it was configuring
off |
22:58.04 |
IriX64 |
bad stab, i actually have it. |
22:58.24 |
brlcad |
you might have it, but that doesn't look like
an unmodified compile |
22:58.34 |
IriX64 |
its a macro, any idea where it
lives? |
22:58.37 |
brlcad |
that error indicates it wasn't properly
enabled |
22:58.47 |
IriX64 |
really? |
22:59.04 |
brlcad |
really |
22:59.38 |
brlcad |
you forced it on via modifications,
yes? |
23:01.32 |
IriX64 |
no honestly. |
23:02.02 |
IriX64 |
found it the file lives in include/fbio.h
looking now. |
23:02.55 |
brlcad |
then there's preprocessor logic that is out of
what .. something rather non-trivial to debug |
23:03.26 |
IriX64 |
might be this number im looking at just a
sec. |
23:03.31 |
brlcad |
that check it's failing on is merely a sanity
check to make sure it really has a framebuffer object |
23:03.34 |
brlcad |
it doesn't, so it aborts |
23:04.24 |
IriX64 |
numbers don't math should be is what you have
and what imp providing doesn't match, not your bug (i
think) |
23:04.25 |
brlcad |
there is *nothing* wrong with the various _CK_
macros that you keep checking -- those are security safeguard
checks so that the application aborts soon |
23:04.47 |
brlcad |
what that abort means is that some before that
point in the code already went wrong |
23:04.56 |
brlcad |
that just happened to be where it was
cuaght |
23:06.26 |
IriX64 |
ty ill keep looking. |
23:33.49 |
IriX64 |
where'd wikipedia come from? |
23:34.53 |
IriX64 |
sheltered too. |
23:41.25 |
brlcad |
ask wikipedia |
23:42.48 |
brlcad |
it's been around for many years .. just about
every topic. hard to do a search without a wikipedia result coming
up |
23:43.00 |
Maloeran |
More than seeds, the Norwegian government
should have stored full backups of Wikipedia in the Doomsday
Vault |