| 00:10.22 | IriX64 | ahh a homebody :) | 
| 00:10.33 | *** part/#brlcad tedcx (n=root@71.237.138.185) | |
| 00:12.09 | IriX64 | it's too | 
| 00:18.42 | IriX64 | 57 minutes 16 seconds, but it completed :) | 
| 00:19.49 | IriX64 | now to build another mug, what color please ;) | 
| 00:23.27 | IriX64 | you guys should choose a love biscuit for your project you know, something like project KryStal :) | 
| 00:37.36 | IriX64 | mmm the x framebuffer comes up but the ogl one does not | 
| 00:42.29 | IriX64 | bwaha... it's photon mapping havoc | 
| 00:43.57 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/432024 hehehhee | 
| 00:48.37 | IriX64 | hot oil for you tonight cassandra :) | 
| 00:48.57 | IriX64 | errr maybe warm elctrons | 
| 00:49.03 | IriX64 | electrons too | 
| 01:09.20 | IriX64 | http://irix64.spaces.live.com brl-cad albumn... Unix high on windows | 
| 01:11.28 | IriX64 | man, 5 cygwin dll's and this thing works on my windereze boxen. | 
| 01:11.41 | IriX64 | still need an x serv tho | 
| 01:13.32 | brlcad | IriX64: you should fix those overlaps | 
| 01:14.30 | IriX64 | heh ill put that in a s a tutorial | 
| 01:14.35 | IriX64 | as | 
| 01:16.55 | IriX64 | gonna transfer that dir to my windows xp-home machine and see if itll come up. | 
| 01:17.10 | IriX64 | no cygwin on that machine | 
| 01:18.01 | IriX64 | urf bad idea, no xserv either | 
| 01:22.05 | IriX64 | sean, i'm running this thing *outside the cygwin environment, and it's sweet. | 
| 01:22.55 | brlcad | it would be sweeter if you cleared up the overlaps | 
| 01:23.13 | IriX64 | xservs are xservs, anybody with a windows box that has an xserv on it should be able to drop this directory in and run it. | 
| 01:23.40 | IriX64 | overlaps there a tool for that which doesn't work yet | 
| 01:24.22 | IriX64 | show you a screenshot in a sec... | 
| 01:28.14 | brlcad | rtcheck will report on overlaps, and visualize them if run from within mged | 
| 01:30.17 | IriX64 | http://irix64.spaces.live.com/photos the brl-cad albumn have a look | 
| 01:33.52 | IriX64 | now have a look at the editor (Overlap tool2) | 
| 01:54.15 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/ (ChangeLog NEWS TODO configure.ac include/config_win.h): final release preparations, update to 7.10.0 | 
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| 02:01.14 | brlcad | hellos malcoholm | 
| 02:01.25 | brlcad | goodbyes malcoholm | 
| 02:01.52 | IriX64 | heh you scared him | 
| 02:02.22 | IriX64 | moody too | 
| 02:02.53 | IriX64 | those muli-dfines keep my ogl from working | 
| 02:03.01 | IriX64 | defines too | 
| 02:03.15 | brlcad | seriously.. get .. over .. it | 
| 02:03.19 | brlcad | it's already fixed in head | 
| 02:03.25 | brlcad | and a release is about to be made | 
| 02:03.27 | IriX64 | heh i gripe a lot :) | 
| 02:03.32 | brlcad | so you can complain if the latest doesn't work | 
| 02:03.48 | IriX64 | seriously how soon? | 
| 02:04.01 | brlcad | you did just see the commit, no? | 
| 02:04.12 | IriX64 | didn't notice just a sec. | 
| 02:04.34 | IriX64 | its there? | 
| 02:04.56 | brlcad | what did I just write? | 
| 02:05.41 | IriX64 | where sourceforge.net still lists 7.8.4 as latest | 
| 02:06.05 | brlcad | i said nothing about sourceforge | 
| 02:06.12 | IriX64 | where then? | 
| 02:06.25 | brlcad | forget it | 
| 02:06.29 | brlcad | just wait for the announcement | 
| 02:06.36 | IriX64 | ok ty | 
| 02:50.27 | brlcad | source tarball is now uploaded, binaries and e-mail announcements on their way through tomorrow | 
| 03:00.27 | deltazap | brlcad: anything that i should know about building it myself? | 
| 03:02.43 | brlcad | deltazap: erhm.. dunno | 
| 03:02.59 | brlcad | there are a variety of configure options for various situations | 
| 03:03.12 | brlcad | default should get you somewhere.. if it doesn't, it's a build bug | 
| 03:03.46 | brlcad | this update includes a lot of dependency updates too, so I'm entirely expecting there to be some instability on some environments | 
| 03:03.57 | brlcad | not run-time -- compile-time instabilities | 
| 03:07.23 | *** topic/#brlcad by brlcad -> BRL-CAD Open Source Solid Modeling || http://brlcad.org || http://sf.net/projects/brlcad || http://fisheye1.cenqua.com/browse/brlcad/brlcad || 7.10 is now released! .. e-mail announcements will follow posting of binary distributions | |
| 03:49.03 | IriX64 | jack-104: are you a serious user of brl-cad or like me just a novice? | 
| 03:57.14 | ``Erik | heh, moody blues were pretty awesome | 
| 04:05.45 | IriX64 | moody blues music is beautiful | 
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| 05:22.38 | IriX64 | best hello world program i ever wrote... and it runs without cygwin1.dll ;) | 
| 05:29.56 | clock_ | cygwin1.dll is evil | 
| 05:30.18 | IriX64 | heh so is cygcrypt.dll :) | 
| 05:30.27 | clock_ | Cygwin detected a version mismatch between various versions of cygwin1.dll - now you need to search your system and delete one of them | 
| 05:30.40 | clock_ | very nice if you are doing something that's supposed to work for a layman | 
| 05:30.47 | IriX64 | been there done that | 
| 05:30.55 | clock_ | like cygwin1.dll couldn't delete itself automatically? ;-) | 
| 05:31.14 | IriX64 | should by all rights be back and forward compatible no? | 
| 05:31.19 | IriX64 | :) | 
| 05:31.23 | clock_ | no it isn't | 
| 05:31.32 | IriX64 | i know | 
| 05:31.41 | clock_ | if you have Cygwin installed and run a program that's shipped with own cygwin.dll, it blows up | 
| 05:31.59 | IriX64 | sadly true, both blow up | 
| 05:32.12 | clock_ | if you don't ship a program with cygwin.dll then it doesn't run without cygwin installed and installing cygwin is a major pita | 
| 05:32.23 | IriX64 | true | 
| 05:32.39 | IriX64 | which is why id like -mno-cygwin to work | 
| 05:32.46 | clock_ | ;-) | 
| 05:32.52 | IriX64 | :) | 
| 05:36.40 | IriX64 | jack-104: what are you doing playing with that mug when people want to talk to you :) | 
| 06:21.22 | IriX64 | wake up :) | 
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| 10:18.37 | deltazap | ruh-roh! | 
| 10:19.07 | deltazap | make errored out | 
| 10:19.35 | deltazap | " No rule to make target `jove-tutorial', needed by `all-am'. Stop." | 
| 10:23.28 | deltazap | this with "make --enable-almost-everything --enable-optimized" | 
| 10:49.57 | deltazap | er...not make, where's my head this morning | 
| 10:50.02 | deltazap | <PROTECTED> | 
| 11:53.53 | brlcad | deltazap: bah.. | 
| 11:53.58 | brlcad | add --disable-jove | 
| 11:54.16 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/other/jove/Makefile.am: missing jove-tutorial from dist | 
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| 13:36.36 | deltazap | brlcad: hey, that's what i'm here for: testing | 
| 13:36.41 | deltazap | all i know is "pres butan to go" | 
| 14:10.58 | clock_ | press butane to go? | 
| 14:13.47 | deltazap | bad mac joke :P | 
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| 18:27.29 | IriX64 | deltazap.... try make creation :P | 
| 18:29.24 | brlcad | deltazap: :) | 
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| 18:42.33 | IriX64 | is it easier to maintain, splitting the configure up like that? | 
| 18:43.58 | brlcad | our configure is nearly four thousand lines.. not sure I'd call that "split up" | 
| 18:44.22 | IriX64 | was referring to the configure that runs for tcl tk | 
| 18:44.36 | IriX64 | stead of pre 7.10 style | 
| 18:47.55 | brlcad | we didn't "split it up", I just let configure run it's own -- they have their own build setup | 
| 18:48.13 | IriX64 | understood | 
| 19:05.14 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/proc-db/.cvsignore: ignore brep_simple | 
| 19:23.10 | brlcad | you're probably still better off with --enable-all --disable-jove | 
| 19:23.22 | IriX64 | will try this first | 
| 19:24.14 | IriX64 | but im easy lets do that. ;) | 
| 19:25.15 | IriX64 | jove is deprecated? | 
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| 19:27.57 | brlcad | jove has been deprecated for a decade | 
| 19:28.24 | IriX64 | heh thats why no lightning bolts ? | 
| 19:29.07 | brlcad | huh? | 
| 19:29.31 | IriX64 | heh norse mythology , but i'm getting thor and jove mixed up :) | 
| 19:29.54 | brlcad | and zeus apparently | 
| 19:29.57 | IriX64 | err jove and zeus | 
| 19:30.02 | IriX64 | :) | 
| 19:31.41 | daggerr | thor did make thunder too :) | 
| 19:32.12 | IriX64 | mjolinor forever :) | 
| 19:32.22 | IriX64 | did i spell it right? | 
| 19:32.41 | daggerr | IriX64, i dont know :) in sweden its spelled mjölner | 
| 19:32.52 | IriX64 | ty :) | 
| 19:33.45 | IriX64 | how do you do that over the o? | 
| 19:33.51 | IriX64 | alt combo? | 
| 19:34.22 | daggerr | IriX64, i just press the key wit an ö on it :) | 
| 19:34.32 | daggerr | i've got a swedish keyboard :) | 
| 19:35.07 | IriX64 | heh make sense then | 
| 19:35.11 | IriX64 | makes too | 
| 19:36.38 | IriX64 | � | 
| 19:36.40 | IriX64 | there | 
| 19:42.10 | IriX64 | daggerr are you experienced at cad with brl-cad? (im here to learn, don't worry i won't badger you with questions) | 
| 19:42.42 | daggerr | IriX64, in here for the same reason as you :) | 
| 19:42.49 | daggerr | I've used it a little bit | 
| 19:42.58 | daggerr | but it was almost a year ago | 
| 19:42.59 | IriX64 | good place for it :) | 
| 19:43.35 | daggerr | if you have a question the ppl in this channel seems to be eager to help so i found it really good back then :) | 
| 19:43.48 | IriX64 | im just playing with the examples haven't really even got my mug yet | 
| 19:48.54 | daggerr | IriX64, i did the radio then i started working on my own projects | 
| 19:49.23 | IriX64 | I'll get to that some day :) | 
| 19:51.04 | daggerr | IriX64, i think it was the first. it was in the introduction to mged or so.. i dont remember exactly :) | 
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| 20:04.19 | IriX64 | :) have played with the tutorial but i'm lousy at geometry so don't know how well i'll make out | 
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| 20:44.23 | joevalle1field | any meshes in .g floating around? | 
| 20:45.19 | brlcad | joevalle1field: how big you need? | 
| 20:45.50 | joevalle1field | no size in particular | 
| 20:48.22 | ``Erik | several, I can get you the hilux... (I haven't gotten you rf becuase of BRL-CAD related build issues... stupid c++ pollution) | 
| 20:48.45 | ``Erik | or you can just hop in mged and facetize something... | 
| 20:49.15 | brlcad | yeah, that or g-nmg is probably the fastest start | 
| 20:49.41 | brlcad | else I have t62 already facetized around here somewhere too as well as some humanoid thing you'd probably recognize | 
| 20:49.50 | ``Erik | heh | 
| 20:50.12 | ``Erik | got a cornelius? :D | 
| 20:53.25 | joevalle1field | what's a cornelius? | 
| 20:54.02 | ``Erik | demo geometry that comes with blender | 
| 20:54.19 | ``Erik | also a dude on planet of teh grapes | 
| 20:54.25 | joevalle1field | :) | 
| 20:55.11 | ``Erik | http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Image:Manual-Part-V-TweakEx11.png | 
| 20:55.15 | ``Erik | http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Image:Manual-Part-IV-Warp2.jpg | 
| 20:55.20 | ``Erik | http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Image:Manual-Part-IV-CorneliusMap.jpg | 
| 20:55.23 | ``Erik | cornelius :D | 
| 20:56.21 | brlcad | brl-cad's mascot should be a moose | 
| 20:56.49 | ``Erik | get to modelin', boy | 
| 20:57.09 | brlcad | i already have a scan of a moose's head, taken from ct scan data, but just the bones | 
| 20:57.46 | joevalle1field | do you have a photo of a moose's outer you know | 
| 20:58.19 | joevalle1field | bones and a photo should be a good start | 
| 20:58.40 | brlcad | heh, http://www.dynamore.de/models/con_models_moose.php?frame=ok | 
| 20:59.24 | ``Erik | heh, the quality of models meatspace sim people use... heh... *smirk* | 
| 20:59.34 | brlcad | just what everyone needs.. an ls-dyna moose crash dummy model | 
| 20:59.46 | joevalle1field | cute but not alot of mascot potential | 
| 21:00.51 | joevalle1field | now you're talking | 
| 21:15.05 | clock_ | brlcad: can you model boobs, ass and the rest of a woman with BRL-CAD? | 
| 21:16.17 | clock_ | brlcad: easily? | 
| 21:16.17 | IriX64 | http://irix64/spaces.live.com/photos/brl-cad | 
| 21:16.17 | brlcad | clock_: only mathematically perfect ones :) | 
| 21:17.17 | brlcad | easily | 
| 21:17.18 | ``Erik | heh, wow, she's packin' perfect spheres! | 
| 21:17.18 | brlcad | otherwise, it's import | 
| 21:17.18 | IriX64 | err http://irix64.spaces.live.com/photos/brl-cad | 
| 21:17.18 | clock_ | brlcad: now I see the power of CSG | 
| 21:17.18 | clock_ | A part of the woman could be modeled by subtracting a suitably positioned man | 
| 21:17.24 | bjorkBSD | holy shit the room's getting crowded! | 
| 21:17.28 | clock_ | i. e. saves work when modelling both | 
| 21:17.47 | bjorkBSD | yhwh? | 
| 21:18.03 | brlcad | yhwh? | 
| 21:18.12 | ``Erik | hryaw | 
| 21:18.15 | ``Erik | http://sourceforge.net/projects/makehuman | 
| 21:18.52 | bjorkBSD | ah. i thought he was referring to his yahweh-ish powers to makehuman. | 
| 21:19.13 | clock_ | what shape are boobs? | 
| 21:19.18 | ``Erik | http://www.dedalo-3d.com/index.php | 
| 21:19.19 | clock_ | Paraboloid? Ellipsoid? | 
| 21:19.27 | bjorkBSD | clock_, take a look at yours. | 
| 21:19.28 | ``Erik | you've never seen any, before? | 
| 21:19.34 | ``Erik | s/,// | 
| 21:19.43 | bjorkBSD | the room was dimly lit. | 
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| 21:20.09 | clock_ | bjorkBSD: I don't have boobs, despite the fact I am attracted to men | 
| 21:20.19 | clock_ | bjorkBSD: and I am not a flat woman either | 
| 21:20.21 | bjorkBSD | what do you have them? | 
| 21:20.26 | bjorkBSD | *then. | 
| 21:20.31 | bjorkBSD | and i thought you were a boy. n/m. | 
| 21:20.39 | clock_ | bjorkBSD: yes I am a boy | 
| 21:20.57 | IriX64 | boyo | 
| 21:21.08 | bjorkBSD | well, all mammals have breasts. | 
| 21:21.24 | IriX64 | nipples not breasts | 
| 21:21.36 | bjorkBSD | that's right. | 
| 21:21.42 | bjorkBSD | so that should be easy to model. | 
| 21:21.44 | bjorkBSD | a '.'. | 
| 21:21.49 | bjorkBSD | start from that and grow it :) | 
| 21:22.01 | IriX64 | :) | 
| 21:23.12 | IriX64 | reminds me of that .g file ``Erik ;) | 
| 21:24.35 | bjorkBSD | clock are you modeling living things? | 
| 21:24.54 | clock_ | bjorkBSD: no | 
| 21:27.50 | brlcad | he's modeling cool network equipment | 
| 21:27.56 | bjorkBSD | heheheh | 
| 21:28.11 | brlcad | seriously, pretty nifty model | 
| 21:28.36 | brlcad | great example of what can be done in a relatively short while | 
| 21:28.46 | bjorkBSD | really? can we see? | 
| 21:29.30 | clock_ | http://ronja.twibright.com/ronja_video.php | 
| 21:29.59 | clock_ | http://ronja.twibright.com/3d/ | 
| 21:31.17 | bjorkBSD | pretty damned cool, clock. | 
| 21:31.28 | ``Erik | well... "breast" is a word that's been mutating, it used to be very gender neutral... | 
| 21:31.35 | deltazap | see, now you're just showing off that you can get things into autocad :P | 
| 21:31.41 | clock_ | bjorkBSD: thanks | 
| 21:31.50 | brlcad | clock_: you had that initial scaffolding part of the model in like .. what? two weeks? | 
| 21:31.50 | bjorkBSD | that was before implants, right ``Erik? ;) | 
| 21:32.05 | brlcad | of your spare time | 
| 21:32.07 | clock_ | brlcad: what is scaffolding? | 
| 21:32.18 | brlcad | everything but the shooter part | 
| 21:32.27 | clock_ | I don't know | 
| 21:32.37 | clock_ | the modeling was spread through longer time | 
| 21:32.37 | ``Erik | (so did a lot of male descriptors in english... "him" and "he" used to be fairly gender neutral) | 
| 21:32.58 | bjorkBSD | very cool. | 
| 21:33.37 | clock_ | brlcad: I did a lot of parts before that weren't part of the model | 
| 21:33.43 | clock_ | intermixed with parts of the model | 
| 21:34.56 | clock_ | Now I can test how many megaton TNT I need to bend that beam ;-) | 
| 21:35.33 | clock_ | ``Erik: you can play a DVD which is in the drive of a friend who lives in the neighbourhood | 
| 21:36.23 | bjorkBSD | clock_, have you been testing it? | 
| 21:36.23 | clock_ | As a hightech system it requires hightech components | 
| 21:36.41 | ``Erik | erm, at 10mbps? is that enough to push the mpeg4 data with enough left over for ccoping with drops ? | 
| 21:36.55 | clock_ | Smoke flues, magnifying glasses, cat litter substrate, bathroom caulking and an old toothbrush | 
| 21:36.57 | bjorkBSD | i watch videos online over less. | 
| 21:37.02 | clock_ | bjorkBSD: yes | 
| 21:37.17 | clock_ | ``Erik: there are no drops. This is not a WiFi | 
| 21:37.39 | ``Erik | it's optic, but if a bird flies through the path, or smoke particulates interfere, or ... | 
| 21:37.42 | bjorkBSD | a powerful remote control huh? | 
| 21:37.52 | clock_ | ``Erik: then the buffers catch it | 
| 21:38.08 | bjorkBSD | if a bird flies through it's path, it blinks and emits an ear piercing shriek only birds can here :) | 
| 21:38.11 | clock_ | ``Erik: smoke particulate don't interfere. the beam is 13cm thick | 
| 21:38.16 | ``Erik | it'd still need a resent, no? | 
| 21:38.21 | ``Erik | resend, even | 
| 21:38.31 | clock_ | it has a BER of 10^-9 | 
| 21:38.34 | ``Erik | I mean, if a bird flies through, you lost bits... | 
| 21:38.40 | clock_ | so once 125 megabytes, you need one resend | 
| 21:38.52 | clock_ | but that is catched by TCP and the buffers | 
| 21:39.21 | ``Erik | right, and tcp hiccups over 10baseT are pretty nasty, I can't see optic being any better | 
| 21:39.51 | ``Erik | if you can outpush the stream, yeah, you can use big honkin' buffers (a second or two of display data might be enough), I spoze :) | 
| 21:39.57 | clock_ | ``Erik: I didn't notice any hiccups. is your 10baseT full duplex? | 
| 21:40.07 | ``Erik | when I had it, yes | 
| 21:40.23 | ``Erik | I'm all 100baseT and 802.11b at home | 
| 21:40.23 | clock_ | this is like 10BaseT-FD | 
| 21:40.39 | bjorkBSD | and is it tcp or something else clock_? | 
| 21:40.45 | clock_ | TCP | 
| 21:41.05 | clock_ | or whatever you put there - it behaves like a fibre optic segment of 10BaseT-FD | 
| 21:41.22 | clock_ | people use it always with TCP/IP | 
| 21:41.34 | ``Erik | tcp is a level 4, ronja is level 1... | 
| 21:41.45 | ``Erik | (and probably 2) | 
| 21:42.27 | clock_ | NE592 differential video amplifier | 
| 21:42.34 | clock_ | NE592 porn video amplifier | 
| 21:44.29 | brlcad | heh | 
| 21:45.37 | clock_ | god save us from some child looking into the beam when porn is being transmitted | 
| 21:45.56 | clock_ | it would see porn, though not in a format that's possible to perceive | 
| 21:46.09 | clock_ | I wonder whether this counts as an indecent display to minors too | 
| 21:47.54 | clock_ | Primary school math: | 
| 21:48.20 | clock_ | An epilepsy patient gets a fit of 5 jerks a second when he sees 100Hz stobing light | 
| 21:48.35 | clock_ | Calculate how many jerks a second he does when he sees a 10,000,000 Hz strobing light | 
| 21:55.46 | bjorkBSD | 10khz? that's a hip hop dance. | 
| 21:56.39 | bjorkBSD | 10Mhz. hmmm. cardiac arrest follows. | 
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| 22:03.02 | clock_ | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/2005_Dime_Obv_Unc_P.png | 
| 22:03.02 | clock_ | Is it the face of god? | 
| 22:03.03 | clock_ | "In god we trust" | 
| 22:03.48 | deltazap | no that's an old man that was outside the building the other day | 
| 22:04.53 | clock_ | Looks almost like BRL-CAD logo: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3c/United_States_dollar_coin%2C_reverse.jpg | 
| 22:05.14 | clock_ | I guess "E PLURIBUS UNUM" must mean something like "one model consists of multiple subcomponents" | 
| 22:05.52 | deltazap | r dime.r u dime_body.c u face.c | 
| 22:06.41 | clock_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:LineartPresRev.png | 
| 22:07.04 | clock_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:19-08-06_0359.jpg | 
| 22:07.13 | clock_ | Now I know where the hairstyle on the coin is from :) | 
| 22:07.53 | bjorkBSD | the stone ages. | 
| 22:07.59 | bjorkBSD | when metal was currency. | 
| 22:08.10 | bjorkBSD | and stones were ... just that. | 
| 22:08.23 | clock_ | what is the currency now? eurodance? | 
| 22:08.51 | bjorkBSD | it's inflationary | 
| 22:08.59 | bjorkBSD | over time of course. hard to pin point. | 
| 22:09.23 | bjorkBSD | and the gov't ALWAYS gets first dibs. | 
| 22:10.40 | clock_ | now the currency are credit cards with negastive balance | 
| 22:12.25 | bjorkBSD | funny, i was just reading a blog on improving one's credit score. | 
| 22:12.28 | bjorkBSD | but you're right. | 
| 22:13.37 | kwizart | Hello! (some quick help needed for help packaging brlcad for Fedora...) | 
| 22:13.54 | kwizart | where can i have the sources code for jove ? | 
| 22:14.16 | kwizart | The compilation fails at jove contrib step... | 
| 22:14.42 | kwizart | make[4]: *** No rule to make target `jove-tutorial', needed by `all-am'. Stop. | 
| 22:15.03 | bjorkBSD | which version, kwizart? | 
| 22:15.11 | kwizart | last (of brlcad | 
| 22:15.13 | kwizart | ) | 
| 22:15.17 | bjorkBSD | called what? | 
| 22:15.23 | kwizart | 7.10 | 
| 22:15.24 | kwizart | :) | 
| 22:15.33 | bjorkBSD | just checking ;) | 
| 22:15.45 | kwizart | i was waiting it ! :) | 
| 22:15.58 | deltazap | brlcad just said to --disable-jove since it isn't required | 
| 22:16.45 | kwizart | well i can do that but packaging on official repository may need to get all option that can work buindin ! | 
| 22:16.47 | deltazap | 15:27 <@brlcad> jove has been deprecated for a decade | 
| 22:17.14 | kwizart | well that may solve things... | 
| 22:17.48 | kwizart | The main problem i have is all tcl/tk iwigets from the system aren't found... | 
| 22:18.13 | kwizart | but i suppose theses packages to be malformed... | 
| 22:20.52 | IriX64 | define.... malformed | 
| 22:21.12 | kwizart | well packaging bugs ! | 
| 22:22.03 | IriX64 | does it not detect itcl or what | 
| 22:22.58 | kwizart | http://pastebin.ca/433633 | 
| 22:23.47 | kwizart | only tkImg libregex jove arent' avaible on the system... | 
| 22:24.17 | kwizart | others are present (with devel package) but not found | 
| 22:24.42 | kwizart | for itcl : itcl-3.3-0.7.RC1.fc6 | 
| 22:25.16 | IriX64 | have you tried a compile, im not sure the summary screen prints out everything or not | 
| 22:26.30 | kwizart | yes i will give another try ( with --disable-jove-build \ ) and i will upload build.log if you want to see... | 
| 22:27.41 | IriX64 | ill look | 
| 22:30.57 | kwizart | IriX64, http://kwizart.free.fr/fedora/6/testing/brlcad/build.log | 
| 22:31.16 | kwizart | this is the build.log before --disable-jove-build ... | 
| 22:33.37 | ``Erik | "in god wet rust"? | 
| 22:43.59 | brlcad | kwizart: i'll help you in a sec if you need it :) | 
| 22:44.11 | kwizart | brlcad, thx | 
| 22:44.28 | kwizart | (currently rebuilding ) | 
| 23:03.50 | kwizart | updating log it fail on ../../src/libdm/.libs/libdm.so: undefined reference to `XFreeDeviceList' | 
| 23:05.46 | brlcad | eep | 
| 23:06.35 | brlcad | that doesn't make sense | 
| 23:06.45 | brlcad | what is it trying to link? | 
| 23:06.53 | brlcad | and what's the link line look like? | 
| 23:07.54 | kwizart | you can see here: http://kwizart.free.fr/fedora/6/testing/brlcad/build.log (at the end of the log!) | 
| 23:08.22 | ``Erik | heh, I'd hope it's at the end, errors generally stop the build... | 
| 23:08.47 | ``Erik | hum, slow site | 
| 23:09.46 | ``Erik | hum, all the warning flags lit up | 
| 23:11.45 | ``Erik | hrm, it's not taking Xi for some reason | 
| 23:12.02 | kwizart | ``Erik, Xi ? | 
| 23:12.44 | ``Erik | um, libXi.so, X intrinsics | 
| 23:13.29 | ``Erik | theoretically, there should be a -lXi on the link line | 
| 23:13.35 | deltazap | woop woop | 
| 23:14.23 | kwizart | ``Erik, ok added to BuildRequires | 
| 23:15.35 | deltazap | wheee Trace/BPT trap | 
| 23:53.33 | deltazap | i hope i'm not the only one running in to the bpt trap |