IRC log for #brlcad on 20070419

00:35.37 CIA-14 libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/ (10 files in 4 dirs): framework for a spam bot
00:49.49 CIA-14 libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp: filter checks
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03:11.42 CIA-14 libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp: host and message filters
03:46.53 CIA-14 libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp: fixes and a mode to play nice
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03:59.36 IriX32 http://irix32.spaces.live.com/photos <--- Serious progress
04:13.47 IriX32 heh real serious, visit again if you like :)
04:20.39 IriX32 I don't want you guys being blamed for my shody work, so I adopted 9.9.9 and so on as my version system, perhaps one day I'll be able to really contribute.
04:38.38 CIA-14 libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/src/ircCommands.cpp: prevent a crash if the commands are wrong
04:39.00 CIA-14 libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp: nice mode is now 3 strikes.
04:50.23 CIA-14 libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp: reg with nickserv
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06:04.17 CIA-14 libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp: whitespace, and add better verification to the bot
06:04.49 CIA-14 libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/src/IRCClient.cpp: whitespace, and add better verification to the bot
06:17.34 CIA-14 libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/ (src/spamBot.cpp vc7.1/spamBot.vcproj): nickserv fixes and making it work in release
06:30.49 CIA-14 libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp: bug fixes
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11:05.11 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/util/Makefile.am: typo, missing underscore on RT_LIBS for binfo
12:32.28 brlcad deltazap: you've uncountered a rather annoying bug, but I think I have found a work-around
12:34.22 brlcad the bug is related to having multiply referenced primitives with various transformations
12:34.28 clock_ brlcad: is it only for referencing primitives or also for combinations?
12:34.28 brlcad if you xpush (either before the edit or before the Z), it'll work
12:35.13 brlcad clock_: the bug you reported is slightly related, but different issue.. yours was for either primitives or combinations .. multiple references in a single combination
12:35.52 brlcad what deltazap uncovered should just be for primitives
12:36.51 joevalleyfield brlcad: does mged -c with the ogl dm work for you on the mac?
12:36.58 joevalleyfield it's crashing my X11
12:38.45 joevalleyfield the normal mode works fine and is definately using the ogl dm
12:38.45 brlcad i don't have a 7.10.0 to test, but 7.8.0 crashes X11 for me
12:38.45 joevalleyfield great
12:38.45 joevalleyfield i'm talking about my own tree and was hoping it wasn't my fault :)
12:38.45 brlcad so whatever it is has been in there for a while
12:41.02 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/BUGS: mged -c, select ogl display manager, crashes X11 -- tested on os x; confirmed at least back throuh 7.8.0
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13:07.43 clock_ brlcad: can't it be easily fixed?
13:10.00 brlcad can't what be easily fixed?
13:10.54 clock_ the bugs with multiple reference
13:14.17 brlcad probably, hard to say without digging more deeply
13:14.49 brlcad it used to work too -- should be a traceable problem
13:16.04 brlcad it's also mged-specific
13:16.24 brlcad the engine doesn't particular care -- it does the right thing
13:26.20 brlcad deltazap: more details.. the bug seems specifically tied to doing both the scale edit with the mouse and the follow-up rotation with the command window
13:26.59 brlcad so it's actually not at all related to multiply referenced prims.. just some state inconsistency between the gui edit state and the command window's state
13:55.43 deltazap huh, interesting
13:55.48 brlcad deltazap: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1703625&group_id=105292&atid=640802
13:56.49 deltazap :D
13:58.24 deltazap i have to say, though, i now understand the matrices a bit more
14:13.17 deltazap oh, i'll have a model up later today with my supersecret hidden message for the competition tomorrow
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14:20.43 brlcad heh, nice nick
14:21.01 brlcad deltazap: cool
14:24.43 deltazap also, the projection shader is neatt
14:24.45 deltazap *neat
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17:04.30 CIA-14 libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/todo.txt: notes on stuff todo later if needed
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18:48.27 dli_ building brlcad from source messes up installed system tcl/tk libraries. any easy solution? like --prefix=/usr/brlcad/ ?
18:54.33 dli_ IriX32, I tried --prefix=/usr/brlcad/ , I think brlcad still builds tcl/tk libraries in /usr/
18:54.56 IriX32 --prefix is for the install
18:55.10 IriX32 it builds tcl/tk in the brlcad directories
18:55.23 IriX32 src/other/tcl
18:55.58 dli_ IriX32, yes, "make install" in that folder
18:56.44 IriX32 what are you tring to install, the whole thing? just do a make install in thew brlcad root
18:57.09 dli_ IriX32, " autogen.sh; ./configure <options>; make; make install
18:57.15 IriX32 yes
18:57.23 IriX32 use --prefix if you like
18:57.36 IriX32 if you dont it will default to /usr/brlcad
18:58.10 dli_ IriX32, everything in /usr/brlcad? I'm worried but messing up /usr/lib64/
18:58.43 IriX32 should not touch it
18:58.54 IriX32 everything will be under usr/brlcad
18:59.26 dli_ IriX32, also, the README file recommends cvs over tar ball. is that still valid?
18:59.30 IriX32 i have numerous brlcad builds :)
18:59.43 IriX32 as far as i know yes dli_
18:59.59 IriX32 tarball=much fun:)
19:00.38 dli_ IriX32, oh, can I force brlcad to use existing tcl/tk-8.4? so I can expect less library problems
19:01.02 IriX32 not for the faint of heart
19:01.22 IriX32 meaning brlcad builds tcl tk for a reason
19:01.31 dli_ IriX32, thanks
19:01.40 IriX32 welcome
19:02.11 IriX32 but they to will be installed in the usr/brlcad dir dli no worries
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19:02.32 IriX32 your system stuff doesn't need to be touched
19:02.51 IriX32 i dont even set my path, just switch to usr/brlcad/bin and go
19:03.17 dli_ IriX32, I can set PATH at user base, should be fine
19:03.25 IriX32 all right
19:04.24 dli_ IriX32, another question, any chance saying brlcad in a linux distribution?
19:05.03 IriX32 this i can't answe there are binaries on sourceforge but i haven't visited recently to see
19:06.18 IriX32 don't know if they are up to date dli_
19:13.10 dli_ IriX32, just in case, I found I have to patch some tcl/tk Makefiles, in order to "make", the patch: http://pastebin.ca/448580
19:15.00 IriX32 ahh that doc thing, i worked around it too
19:15.11 IriX32 *you should file a bug report
19:15.46 IriX32 i cant cause my system is strange
19:15.49 dli_ IriX32, you definitely understand this better, please file the bug report
19:16.01 IriX32 cannot i have a deal in place
19:16.30 IriX32 its there in activestates stand alone system disros too
19:16.36 IriX32 distros
19:16.38 dli_ IriX32, maybe an automake version thing?
19:17.06 IriX32 happens here to i use automake 8.5 i think
19:17.12 IriX32 1.8.5
19:17.44 dli_ IriX32, what about 1.9 or 1.10? they both fail ./configure
19:18.04 IriX32 this i know thsats why i dropped back to 1.8.5
19:18.06 dli_ while README recommends automake >= 1.9
19:18.32 IriX32 i go with what works
19:18.40 IriX32 errr on *my system
19:19.29 dli_ IriX32, another thing funny, my system is linux, I can see ./configure tests a lot of Windows stuff
19:20.56 dli_ brlcad, please file the bug report. I go back to work now
19:26.43 IriX32 dli brlcad has a whole couple of trees for windows compilers
19:40.52 IriX32 dli... my system is wondows, it tests a lot of unix stuff :P
19:40.57 IriX32 windows too
19:45.17 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/librt/g_brep.cpp: fix parameter bounding, suppress debug statements. yay! untrimmed breps raytrace!
19:48.18 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/proc-db/brep_cube.cpp: change material back to plastic
19:49.17 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/proc-db/brep_simple.cpp: perturb a vertex for testing...
19:52.27 IriX32 http://www.pastebin.ca/448637 <--- where's ``Erik ;)
19:56.12 IriX32 04/18/2007 02:45 PM 15,739,151 mged.exe
19:56.19 IriX32 :)
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21:03.47 CIA-14 libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp:
21:03.48 CIA-14 libIRC: track hostmasks for masters
21:03.48 CIA-14 libIRC: help on comamnds
21:03.48 CIA-14 libIRC: stuff to set options
21:03.48 CIA-14 libIRC: many changes.
21:15.32 brlcad not impossible
21:15.38 brlcad just highly improbable
21:16.26 IriX32 i know but i can wish
21:16.30 IriX32 and ride
21:17.01 ``Erik well, if you were a gov't employee or contractor with sufficient privileges and a need to have that bit of geometry, ...
21:17.22 ``Erik until then, enjoy the ktank. :)
21:17.38 brlcad heh
21:17.59 IriX32 ktank is next for the blog
21:18.03 IriX32 soons this compile finishes
21:18.13 IriX32 the cube is nice too
21:18.29 ``Erik did the hilux get all signed off on?
21:18.41 clock_ IriX32: enjoy the Ronja, or you can even model missing things
21:18.46 ``Erik or that old russian heap?
21:18.58 clock_ like 90mm caliber Ronja or the new Plazmatron holder
21:19.02 IriX32 clock_ thanks
21:19.06 IriX32 :)
21:20.00 clock_ How big gun is a 130mm gun?
21:20.02 ``Erik 90mm and a muzzle velocity of 300,000 km/s, pheersome
21:20.39 ``Erik ?
21:20.43 clock_ ``Erik: the holder weighs 15kg, for the recoil
21:20.53 brlcad http://pastebin.ca/448580
21:20.58 IriX32 brlcad i didn't look real close but i think he got by that no such file or directory near the end of the install
21:21.15 brlcad presumably those for loops aren't globbing correctly if his patch really was necessary
21:21.25 brlcad but then that patch will break those that are working right
21:22.10 brlcad also hadn't noticed tcl/tk installing outside of the prefix
21:22.21 brlcad seems to stay contained here
21:23.08 CIA-14 libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp: whitelist add/remove functions
21:26.32 IriX32 stays contained here too ``Erik
21:26.54 IriX32 http://irix32.spaces.live.com/photos
21:26.57 IriX32 ktank
21:27.53 IriX32 should i render it?
21:28.13 IriX32 btw this is the unix high on windows version :)
21:29.31 IriX32 if i compile static against system libs i should be home free right?
21:33.04 ``Erik for i in $(TOP_DIR)/doc/*.1; do install $(TOP_DIR)/doc/$$i... install /usr/brlcad/doc/usr/brlcad/doc/poo.1 ; ...?
21:39.18 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/Makefile.am: include/conf/DATE is generated, so in builddir
21:44.15 IriX32 Xwin32 is so good i ight spring for it
21:44.21 IriX32 might too
21:45.01 CIA-14 libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/src/Makefile.am: autogen says blank lines after / is bad
21:46.34 bjorkBSD get a bsd box.
21:46.37 bjorkBSD it comes with x ;)
21:46.49 IriX32 so did cygwin ;)
21:46.58 bjorkBSD mmm
21:47.06 IriX32 didn't want to get married though ;)
21:47.25 bjorkBSD hehehe
21:47.37 IriX32 :)
21:48.06 IriX32 rendering it now stay tuned :)
21:48.34 CIA-14 libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/src/Makefile.am: or just oldcode may not exist=
21:50.20 IriX32 + people
21:52.20 IriX32 waiting on ray trace complete, may be here a while
22:13.41 IriX32 emmiting photons, who are you kidding :)
22:14.26 CIA-14 libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp: when listing the help topics return when done, don't try to find help for a blank topic.
22:15.07 IriX32 http://pastebin.ca/448850
22:15.56 IriX32 that sysv5 warning is what was discusssed moons ago?
22:24.10 IriX32 cp -r brlcad brlcad-7.10.0
22:24.10 IriX32 crapz sorry
22:40.12 IriX32 http://pastebin.ca/448885 <---7.10.0 configure no display ? I do have X at least
22:41.45 IriX32 X11R6 if anybody cares
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23:11.32 p0g0 Hi, I've a linux 2.6 kernel, installed the 7.8.4 deb from sourceforge. Invoking mged wants glibc_2.4, but no such dependency was reported by the deb. Should I remove the deb, download the source and build?
23:16.39 bjorkBSD best bet
23:16.43 bjorkBSD what's wrong with 7.10?
23:16.47 bjorkBSD you don't like new things?
23:17.52 p0g0 bjorkBSD: you asking me- I'm new to brlcad, and a deb is often a much easier thing to install...if it works.
23:18.13 bjorkBSD if. ;)
23:19.18 p0g0 but I've no issue with building it- I gather that's the sage advice then.
23:19.38 bjorkBSD indeedy.
23:19.46 bjorkBSD the packages aren't all out yet for 7.10
23:20.21 p0g0 I'll scurry of to crank up the compiler now... thanks
23:20.29 bjorkBSD no problema.
23:22.18 IriX32 http://pastebin.ca/448936 <--- i know my system is strange but... other configure scripts can figure it out. (that's tcl/tk script they both report that.)
23:25.10 bjorkBSD ``Erik, are you the freebsd ports maintainer for brlcad?
23:35.08 ``Erik jez, I need to fix the patch, cvs is being gooby about deleted files
23:35.09 ``Erik I also need to fix the tcl detection so'z I can dep on lang/tcl85 and x11-toolkits/tk85 :/
23:38.27 ``Erik (whyfor?)
23:39.13 bjorkBSD oh i was about to take a hand at doing it when i noticed an 'erik' in the Makefile.
23:39.20 bjorkBSD mind you, i've never done it before and since you're here ... :D
23:43.22 ``Erik take a hand at doing what? a port update? hehehe
23:43.39 ``Erik hit pointyhat and look for broken ones owned by ports@
23:44.14 bjorkBSD yeah.
23:44.29 bjorkBSD but it looks very hairy with it's ski-mask off :-S
23:46.25 IriX32 it's what's in it's hand you have to be carefull of :P
23:46.39 bjorkBSD what? it's only an ice-ax
23:46.51 bjorkBSD hmm. a sharp edge.
23:46.55 bjorkBSD *backs away*
23:47.20 brlcad IriX32: we don't do that ar check, that's all in autoconf's hands -- you'd probably need to reautogen using the latest autotools if you're not
23:47.31 brlcad but there's still pretty much nothing we can do about it
23:47.55 IriX32 ty
23:48.47 IriX32 http://pastebin.ca/448986 <--- what'd i do now. (7.10.0 again)
23:48.57 brlcad p0g0: yeah, there are several issues with that deb -- there's not a full-time debian maintainer, that was contributed
23:49.28 brlcad IriX32: no idea, but it looks somewhat hosed
23:49.38 IriX32 somewhat
23:49.52 IriX32 urf ill checkout again :)
23:52.04 brlcad ``Erik: exactly.. i don't see how adding TOP_DIR/doc fixed anything

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