00:03.11 |
IriX32 |
if you're going to tie us to -ltcl8.5a ... why
all those checks |
00:03.27 |
IriX32 |
err -ltcl8.5.a |
00:03.42 |
brlcad |
all what checks? |
00:04.10 |
brlcad |
"-ltcl8.5.a" should be bogus, if i'm not
mistaken |
00:04.17 |
IriX32 |
for different versions of tcl and when it
finds one it refuses it anyway |
00:04.28 |
brlcad |
either /path/to/libtcl8.5.a or
-ltcl8.5 |
00:05.02 |
IriX32 |
mmm |
00:05.09 |
IriX32 |
either way |
00:05.11 |
brlcad |
it only checks for 8.5 and 8.6 |
00:05.22 |
IriX32 |
8.4 too |
00:05.36 |
brlcad |
not in my configure.ac |
00:05.49 |
IriX32 |
ill recheck just a sec |
00:06.20 |
brlcad |
-ltcl is as close as it gets and that's a
wildcard really |
00:07.38 |
IriX32 |
youre correct |
00:08.14 |
IriX32 |
still you give the option is it really
neccessary if you're tied to 8.5a |
00:13.34 |
brlcad |
that sentence does not parse |
00:13.53 |
IriX32 |
heh just set the headers and libs and be done
with it |
00:14.07 |
IriX32 |
you know youre going to build it |
00:14.14 |
brlcad |
not necessarily |
00:14.27 |
brlcad |
i actually build without it all the
time |
00:14.28 |
IriX32 |
show me 8.6 :) |
00:14.44 |
IriX32 |
ahh to avoid recompiling it |
00:14.52 |
IriX32 |
i see |
00:14.59 |
brlcad |
some package management systems report 8.5 as
8.6 |
00:15.15 |
IriX32 |
tell them to fix their stuff |
00:15.25 |
brlcad |
it's not broken |
00:15.43 |
IriX32 |
reporting 8.5 as 8.6 in bot broken |
00:15.49 |
IriX32 |
err not |
00:19.15 |
IriX32 |
some systems report 7.10.0 as 7.1.0
;) |
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00:33.10 |
IriX32 |
dli just tested it both tcl and tk honor the
--prefix you set to in main configure |
00:53.22 |
IriX32 |
heh funniset thing i've ever seen you can set
your --build switch to any valid sys type and it
configures |
00:54.52 |
bjorkBSD |
deep nerdish. |
00:55.03 |
bjorkBSD |
no spica |
00:55.08 |
IriX32 |
radish actually ... spicy |
00:56.57 |
bjorkBSD |
heheh |
00:57.57 |
IriX32 |
you came in late examine http://irix32.spaces.live.com/photos
(somebody got an xml error on it) |
00:58.49 |
bjorkBSD |
Sorry, we are unable to complete your task at
this time. The Windows Live Spaces service is experiencing
difficulties. Please try your task again later. |
00:59.01 |
IriX32 |
urf |
00:59.07 |
IriX32 |
ah well |
00:59.35 |
bjorkBSD |
what's live spaces n e who? |
00:59.48 |
IriX32 |
sorta a super blog |
01:00.04 |
bjorkBSD |
like yoohoo 360? |
01:00.18 |
IriX32 |
microsoft tied it to windows live messenger
and an email account |
01:00.37 |
IriX32 |
yoohoo to u 2 :) |
01:00.57 |
bjorkBSD |
i see. |
01:01.10 |
bjorkBSD |
just like that yoohoo thing. |
01:01.22 |
IriX32 |
never tried that one |
01:02.16 |
bjorkBSD |
waste of time, i assure you. |
01:02.46 |
IriX32 |
heh i just wanted someplace to post output as
opposed to johnny 5's input :) |
01:03.45 |
IriX32 |
its been saying 3.95 fps for an hour
now |
01:16.22 |
dli |
IriX32, the configure options are mostly from
a previous ebuild |
01:28.22 |
deltazap |
drinky :O |
01:29.27 |
IriX32 |
k drinky why is libbu make file looking for
tcl in ../../src/other/unix ? |
01:29.51 |
IriX32 |
err +tcl |
01:33.57 |
IriX32 |
i don't know how to fix this in
makefile |
01:41.07 |
IriX32 |
hardcoding the path for now |
01:41.32 |
IriX32 |
and taking a break :) |
01:44.50 |
IriX32 |
that blog has been updated this last shot took
over an hour if anybody wants to see it |
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18:32.23 |
IriX32 |
mmmm why are we updating
brlcad/libtk/tcl8.4 |
18:33.02 |
IriX32 |
err tk/tcl8.4 |
18:34.01 |
IriX32 |
doh goof so you have a choice :) |
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18:45.14 |
IriX32 |
you know overlooking is such an easy thing....
i totally overlooked the fact that i have two updates going to the
same source tree, am i farkled? |
18:45.53 |
IriX32 |
multi - tasking strikes again sigh
:) |
18:46.40 |
IriX32 |
think i'll let both finish and see where I
am |
18:58.36 |
IriX32 |
brlcad: you wanted me to work from cvs, I took
you literally. |
19:04.28 |
dli |
IriX32, any answer to the tcl/tk doc Makefile
problem |
19:05.07 |
IriX32 |
must needs be addresseed by a higher power, I
don't speak make. |
19:06.36 |
IriX32 |
did you get libbu to make with that tcl or are
you using system lib? |
19:07.32 |
dli |
IriX32, they simply make. no I can not use
system libs |
19:07.45 |
IriX32 |
must be my system then |
19:08.45 |
IriX32 |
build issues, ah well... all's well that runs
well |
19:19.06 |
IriX32 |
what's going on here, no X no GL, no Windows
GL, there's no way thats configures fault |
19:29.56 |
IriX32 |
dli.... does it find a display manager on your
system? |
19:30.58 |
dli |
IriX32, display manager? |
19:31.28 |
IriX32 |
x gl windows gl, does the summary say its
building with any of these? |
19:36.38 |
dli |
IriX32, it finds x and gl |
19:37.35 |
IriX32 |
ty |
19:55.40 |
dli |
checking for X11 in /usr/X11R6...
found |
19:56.02 |
IriX32 |
its the functionality test im
failing |
19:58.03 |
dli |
http://pastebin.ca/451731 |
20:01.23 |
IriX32 |
i get that too, its proper there but when it
checks to see if it works somethings funny |
20:02.18 |
IriX32 |
conftest.exe fails, with undefined
functions |
20:09.54 |
IriX32 |
http://www.pastebin.ca/451745
<-- this part is giving me grief, undefined functions |
20:10.35 |
IriX32 |
header passes link fails |
20:19.15 |
IriX32 |
http://www.pastebin.ca/451751
< - grok all these but the link fails dli |
20:22.53 |
IriX32 |
found it thank you |
20:27.18 |
IriX32 |
http://www.pastebin.ca/451758
<--- changing it to this fixed it here dli |
20:46.06 |
IriX32 |
there's a good girl, have a byte :) |
21:12.14 |
IriX32 |
http://www.pastebin.ca/451830
<--- dli I smell good things happening :) |
21:18.02 |
brlcad |
IriX32: stop it, please .. we've had this
discussion too many times -- next time you will have voice removed
for a week |
21:18.40 |
brlcad |
your enthusiasm is appreciated, but you have
to tame the chatter and non-stop dialog |
21:21.56 |
brlcad |
dli: I looked at your patch, but it doesn't
seem to make any sense.. the change should result in the wrong
paths (something like
/usr/brlcad/lib/tcl8.4/usr/brlcad/lib/tcl8.4/file) |
21:26.23 |
dli |
brlcad, that's up to you guys to figure
out |
21:27.35 |
brlcad |
wonder if it's related to portage
repathing |
21:27.39 |
brlcad |
this was gentoo yes? |
21:29.23 |
brlcad |
dli: another thing you should be able to do is
just make tcl/tk 8.5 a package dependency, in case there are/were
patches needed to get tcl/tk to work |
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21:36.37 |
IriX32 |
real question, can -DIF_X and -DIF_OGL
co-exist? |
21:43.31 |
poolio |
IriX32: I don't see why not. |
21:43.57 |
IriX32 |
was wondering, somehow i have both
set |
21:43.57 |
IriX32 |
. |
21:56.14 |
poolio |
It make sense, X is the windowing system, and
OGL is just a specification |
21:56.26 |
poolio |
or "development architecture" i
suppose |
22:00.40 |
IriX32 |
http://www.pastebin.ca/451871
<--- from makefile in src/fbserv ... look for
-Lyes/lib |
22:00.56 |
IriX32 |
dm_libs |
22:04.32 |
IriX32 |
its in there more than once |
22:05.06 |
IriX32 |
X_LIBS too |
22:07.06 |
brlcad |
IriX32: yes, there will be an IF_something for
each framebuffer interface |
22:07.25 |
IriX32 |
ty |
22:07.27 |
brlcad |
and a DM_something for each display manager
(and the two have little to do with each other) |
22:07.49 |
IriX32 |
so i am busted here with both set i
guess |
22:09.10 |
brlcad |
huh? |
22:09.28 |
brlcad |
one for *each* .. there's no problem having
more than one |
22:09.44 |
IriX32 |
somehow ive got both opengl and X. |
22:09.52 |
brlcad |
so? |
22:10.13 |
IriX32 |
why the error then? |
22:11.18 |
brlcad |
i can't read your mind |
22:11.26 |
brlcad |
you've not demonstrated an error |
22:12.17 |
IriX32 |
the yes/lib in X_LIBS in makefile in
src/fbserv my make dies with multiple undefies to x
functions |
22:12.44 |
IriX32 |
ahh i get it sorry not to have explained the
pastebin |
22:13.15 |
brlcad |
I shouldn't need a pastebin explanation.. you
should paste the failure, not what you think is causing
it |
22:13.28 |
IriX32 |
i did |
22:13.42 |
IriX32 |
http://www.pastebin.ca/451871 |
22:13.43 |
brlcad |
then it was lost in the 7 or so
pastebins |
22:13.43 |
dli |
brlcad, I will show you the "make install "
error message without the patch |
22:13.55 |
IriX32 |
there it is again |
22:14.11 |
brlcad |
that is exactly my point |
22:14.20 |
brlcad |
that pastebin doesn't show any error |
22:14.47 |
IriX32 |
DM_LIBS =
${top_builddir}/src/other/libpng/libpng.la -Lyes/lib |
22:16.25 |
brlcad |
i see the 'yes' on that line, and that's
undoubtedly an issue somewhere, but again.. you've still not shown
the build error |
22:17.05 |
IriX32 |
X_CFLAGS = -Iyes/include
ill pastebin the error |
22:18.00 |
brlcad |
dli: thanks, that might help |
22:18.15 |
brlcad |
though it probably should be simply a
dependency instead of building directly |
22:19.52 |
IriX32 |
http://www.pastebin.ca/451903
started with make in the fbserv dir |
22:21.45 |
brlcad |
which version is this? |
22:25.49 |
brlcad |
send me your configure.ac |
22:26.18 |
IriX32 |
this is 7.10 got my configure .ac from
cvs |
22:27.15 |
brlcad |
send me your configure.ac |
22:27.35 |
brlcad |
glad to hear you're using cvs now |
22:27.58 |
IriX32 |
heh you turned me on to it, thanks |
22:28.14 |
IriX32 |
or should i thank you ;) |
22:29.27 |
brlcad |
run "cvs diff -u configure.ac" and pastebin
the entire output |
22:33.02 |
IriX32 |
http://www.pastebin.ca/451931
remeber i dont know if this is proper i screwed it up, im new to
cvs |
22:33.14 |
IriX32 |
err or screwed it up |
22:33.39 |
brlcad |
that's apparently not a CVS checkout |
22:33.45 |
brlcad |
or you're in the wrong dir |
22:33.54 |
brlcad |
is there a configure.ac file in that
directory? |
22:34.20 |
IriX32 |
same dir i update from err i update from that
but specify brlcad that why? |
22:34.47 |
IriX32 |
no output just returns |
22:35.06 |
IriX32 |
wnat it pastebinned? |
22:35.51 |
IriX32 |
http://www.pastebin.ca/451935
there you go |
22:36.09 |
brlcad |
"i update from that but specify brlcad that
why?" <-- don't understand |
22:36.26 |
brlcad |
ah, so you were in the wrong dir |
22:36.47 |
IriX32 |
is that why i got an message saying no such
file |
22:36.50 |
IriX32 |
yeah |
22:37.11 |
IriX32 |
i update the master work in another
dir |
22:37.16 |
brlcad |
you specified configure.ac .. yet you were not
in the directory that had configure.ac |
22:37.20 |
IriX32 |
but work in another dir |
22:37.22 |
brlcad |
so .. no such file |
22:37.29 |
IriX32 |
right |
22:37.54 |
IriX32 |
cp -r is my friend :) |
22:38.13 |
brlcad |
you can do the diff in either |
22:38.17 |
brlcad |
you were in neither |
22:39.10 |
brlcad |
what is your configure line |
22:40.48 |
IriX32 |
./configure --with-x |
22:41.32 |
brlcad |
therein lies the problem |
22:41.43 |
brlcad |
why are you specifying --with-x ? |
22:42.01 |
IriX32 |
because thats what i have |
22:42.33 |
brlcad |
that's not what that option
indicates |
22:43.02 |
brlcad |
if you have it and it works as expected, it
will be detected |
22:43.44 |
IriX32 |
thought i had to specify and that ogl is the
default |
22:44.06 |
brlcad |
we've had this discussion before |
22:44.12 |
dli |
brlcad, the make install error without the
tcl-doc patch: http://pastebin.ca/451941 |
22:44.42 |
IriX32 |
oh man i honestly have a memory problem
forgive me. |
22:44.46 |
brlcad |
IriX32: ogl will be the default unless you use
--disable-opengl |
22:45.02 |
IriX32 |
ty |
22:45.28 |
IriX32 |
ill file that somewhere readily available like
i did your cvs commands. |
22:47.48 |
brlcad |
the with options often require a path, and
that's the case for that one |
22:48.55 |
brlcad |
regardless, they still do not generally turn
functionality on -- it's used to specify *which* one you want to
use, i.e. where is X11 installed if it wasn't a standard
location |
22:49.39 |
IriX32 |
is standard so it should just detect it if i
--disable-ogl correct? |
22:49.41 |
brlcad |
and apologies, not --disable-opengl,
--without-opengl |
22:49.53 |
IriX32 |
thank you |
23:09.14 |
poolio |
is there a reason you dont want to use
ogl? |
23:11.55 |
bjorkBSD |
he has a weirdo system. |
23:16.04 |
IriX32 |
very :) thanks all for putting up with it...
and me. |
23:17.08 |
brlcad |
dli: looks like at least a trailing slash is
missing |
23:17.46 |
brlcad |
e.g.
/var/tmp/portage/sci-misc/brlcad-9999/work/brlcadTcl_Access.3 ..
should probably be
/var/tmp/portage/sci-misc/brlcad-9999/work/brlcad/Tcl_Access.3 or
something similar |
23:19.14 |
brlcad |
still, though .. is there a reason to not make
tcl/tk a dependency? the mods were made specifically to support
that for gentoo and others |
23:28.10 |
dli |
brlcad, show me how to do that? --without-tcl
--without-tk ? |
23:28.54 |
brlcad |
dli: it will autodetect and auto-disable if a
suitable system version is found |
23:29.15 |
brlcad |
which means making it a dependency in portage
land |
23:29.34 |
brlcad |
you can force it off with an option |
23:29.45 |
brlcad |
--disable-tcl-build and
--disable-tk-build |
23:29.55 |
brlcad |
but really, if it's all set up right, you
shouldn't need those |
23:30.11 |
brlcad |
they shouldn't hurt either way too |
23:32.31 |
dli |
brlcad, no, " --disable-tcl-build
--disable-tk-build " checking for Tcl library functionality...
no |
23:32.31 |
dli |
configure: libtcl was disabled, but no system
Tcl library was found |
23:32.31 |
dli |
configure: WARNING: Restarting configure with
additional flags |
23:34.33 |
brlcad |
no? no what? |
23:34.57 |
brlcad |
"no system Tcl library was found" is a
problem |
23:35.10 |
brlcad |
if it's installed via a dependency, it
shouldn't fail to find it |
23:36.25 |
dli |
brlcad, I don't understand "installed via a
dependency", tcl8.4 tk8.4 are installed |
23:37.22 |
brlcad |
8.4 are insufficient |
23:37.28 |
brlcad |
8.5+ |
23:38.32 |
dli |
brlcad, 8.5 is not released |
23:41.30 |
brlcad |
dli: is there no package for it even in
unstable? |
23:41.43 |
dli |
brlcad, no |
23:41.53 |
brlcad |
8.5 is not stable, but it is
released |
23:41.59 |
dli |
dev-lang/tcl |
23:42.02 |
dli |
<PROTECTED> |
23:42.27 |
brlcad |
there at 8.5a5 |
23:43.23 |
brlcad |
erm, I see a reference to an unstable
8.5 |
23:43.27 |
dli |
brlcad, http://www.tcl.tk/software/tcltk/ |
23:43.30 |
brlcad |
dev-lang/tk-8.5.0 |
23:45.16 |
brlcad |
i'm aware of it's unstable status, we upgraded
in preparation for the forthcoming 8.6 and (more importantly) as a
means to update the way we integrate their build system |
23:47.39 |
dli |
brlcad, even if you can make tcl/tk ebuilds
for 8.5, those new tcl/tk libraries may also break many packages
depends on them |
23:48.15 |
brlcad |
i wouldn't make them.. just seems like others
may have already done so themselves in unstable |
23:49.01 |
dli |
brlcad, no, not even in layman from
gentoo-overlays |
23:49.24 |
brlcad |
bizarre references then, hm |
23:51.31 |
brlcad |
dli: that is unfortunate then until 8.6 comes
out or until further build changes are made I think.. |
23:54.12 |
brlcad |
dli: do you know if there are any patches
being applied to 8.4? |
23:54.22 |
brlcad |
(in portage) |
23:56.06 |
brlcad |
i might be able to back-port changes to
resupport 8.4 again, but I recall there being some outright
interface incompatibilities when the upgrade was
performed |
23:56.32 |
dli |
brlcad, epatch
"${FILESDIR}"/${PN}-8.4.6-multilib.patch , epatch
"${FILESDIR}"/tcl-configure-LANG.patch |
23:58.40 |
dli |
brlcad, tcl-8.4.6-multilib.patch ,
tcl-8.4.6-multilib.patch |