IRC log for #brlcad on 20070527

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01:15.17 yukonbob can I scale/translate/rotate a region or group? For example, if I've got a complex object that I want combined w/ some surface multiple times, in a pattern, what's the best way to approach this?
02:24.53 smallfoot- dunno
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03:53.15 brlcad yukonbob: yes, you can -- this is a "matrix edit" or an "object edit" depending whether you're doing it through the gui or the command line respectively
03:53.51 brlcad if it's actually a regular pattern, the pattern tool should be able to actually make all of the (shallow) copies for you
04:12.03 MinstrelGypsy cd brlcad
04:17.04 MinstrelGypsy http://www.pastebin.ca/513155 <---- just got thru checking out and ...
04:17.51 brlcad run: echo "test" | sed
04:17.54 brlcad what does it output?
04:18.24 MinstrelGypsy usage screen
04:18.35 brlcad k, thanks
04:18.41 MinstrelGypsy welcome
04:20.04 brlcad try: echo "test" | sed "s/test/test/"
04:20.46 MinstrelGypsy reports test
04:21.18 MinstrelGypsy i don't use sed much directly sorry im so slow
04:21.50 MinstrelGypsy will --verbose on autogen help nail it down
04:22.17 MinstrelGypsy no
04:22.21 brlcad no, it's just an eary test to make sure all the tools the script uses are available
04:22.24 MinstrelGypsy doesn't even get started
04:22.25 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/ (autogen.sh bench/run.sh): gnu sed apparently doesn't read from stdin, so make a custom test for it.
04:22.48 brlcad that should fix it
04:22.48 MinstrelGypsy thankyou
04:23.36 MinstrelGypsy we'll know in a few minutes
04:25.46 MinstrelGypsy same thing
04:28.36 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/bench/run.sh: use VERBOSE_ECHO instead of testing DEBUG
04:29.29 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/autogen.sh: oops, one char typo -- try again
04:48.01 MinstrelGypsy sure just a sec
04:50.23 MinstrelGypsy much better
04:50.26 MinstrelGypsy :)
04:52.01 yukonbob ?are there better manuals than the "VolumeII-Introduction to MGED", etc.... even wikis or other online materials... "Intro to..." is a great introduction, but something with more depth would be welcome :)
04:52.20 yukonbob s/better manuals/more extensive/
04:52.27 MinstrelGypsy look in the html dir
04:53.49 MinstrelGypsy or did you know about the pdf docs on http://brlcad.org?
04:53.55 brlcad yukonbob: yes, there's .. Vol III .. as well as a slew of manpages, html docs, and other docs embedded in the source code too
04:55.05 yukonbob MinstrelGypsy: I got the PDFs from the brlcad.org... I did check the html earlier and it seemed incomplete for what I was searching at the time, but I should make mental note to check the included html for each case ;)
04:55.25 MinstrelGypsy :)
04:55.37 brlcad in the source distribution, there's a "doc" directory that has a lot of extra stuff of varying quality
04:56.32 brlcad it's a bit of a stomping group for any and all documentation, whether new or old/outdated, but often many of the docs there get into details more quickly
04:57.53 yukonbob are either of you devs, or pretty familiar w/ the build process? another q: I have is why my build didn't like my already installed tcl/tk/itcl/itk etc. Is that pretty typical that brlcad wants to build it's own? Is it for particular reason, or I need to feed better hints to ./configure?
04:58.05 brlcad that said, they're *all* works in progress, and even the rather extensive tutorial series (which took a couple years to put together) are even "incomplete" in many respects
04:58.30 brlcad yukonbob: i'm the lead dev
05:00.17 poolio are there other devs?
05:07.20 brlcad poolio: yes, though they only periodically/rarely show their faces on IRC
05:13.32 MinstrelGypsy mean i should get off the channel then :P
05:13.51 MinstrelGypsy just kidding poolio, i'm not dev
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05:56.10 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/bench/ (benchmark.1 run.sh):
05:56.10 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: add support for automatic logging of benchmark results to a file. this is so
05:56.10 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: users don't have to rerun and/or manually capture output if they want to review
05:56.10 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: the output in detail. also included is the date/time and uname of the system
05:56.10 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: running the analysis. make the file path searching output verbose-only now.
05:56.12 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: docs updated to reflect all these changes.
05:57.03 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: benchmark tool automatically logs all output to file
06:27.23 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/bench/ (benchmark.1 run.sh): differentiate between clean and clobber, allowing clean to remove files without being prompted while clobber also deletes the (new) benchmark.log files (but still not the summary file)
07:54.30 yukonbob :) another Q when somebody gets the time: Is there a discussion of "copies" versus "references" of/to objects available? I see reference (no pun intended) to it in VolIII...
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19:58.07 MinstrelGypsy is bwish used for anything?
19:59.03 brlcad yes
19:59.16 MinstrelGypsy critical?
19:59.18 brlcad it's used by rtwizard and a few other tools
19:59.24 MinstrelGypsy ty
20:00.04 brlcad i'm not sure i'd call it "critical", but it's certainly in the top 50% of tools
20:00.14 MinstrelGypsy understood
20:00.43 MinstrelGypsy can't forget about it then :)
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