IRC log for #brlcad on 20070531

00:06.48 Genecks WHen I'm not online, I'm eating babies.
00:07.14 ``Erik comet7?
00:07.37 ``Erik http://www.comet7.com/archive_page.php?id=685
00:07.41 ``Erik http://www.comet7.com/archive_page.php?id=686
00:07.48 Genecks Stop spamming.
00:07.57 ``Erik I'm not, I'm posting two links
00:08.12 Genecks Nobody needs your pornography.
00:08.20 Genecks Don't click it, anyone.
00:08.32 ``Erik heh, if only :D webcomics aren't quite as amusing
00:10.21 Genecks You ever think about having sex with an underage girl?
00:10.30 ``Erik uh, no...
00:10.44 Genecks Why not? There are plenty in Cambodia.
00:11.47 Genecks http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4038249/
00:13.06 Genecks You've never thought about it, ''Erik?
00:13.30 louipc Genecks: I think you're in the wrong channel for that kind of discussion
00:14.41 Genecks #mp3
00:22.18 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/HACKING: version number is in the include/conf dir version files now
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00:58.52 yukonbob brlcad: I'm not surprised, but I may have solved own issue with orders of operations -- will still show you other code, though, to discuss why it doesn't work if that's alright...
01:04.23 ``Erik some odd monkeys drift through O.o
02:02.51 brlcad yukonbob: find with me either way -- oed is stateful (meaning it cares about when you do what), so I wouldn't be surprised if it was related to being in one state yet needing another or something similar (forcibly setting/changing the state in scripts is good for that, e.g. accept and reject commands)
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02:31.21 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/INSTALL: kaboom! .. document all of the configure options we provide (both the --enable and --with options), including what they mean and do in detail. includes all of the various available aliases too that are available.
02:34.39 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac:
02:34.39 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: another big aliasing restructure for consistency. includes removing some of the
02:34.39 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: more gratuitous/verbose aliases as well as more consistently using -install for
02:34.39 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: the three (iwidgets, tnt, models) that aren't actually 'compiled'. should match
02:34.39 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: the new INSTALL docs.
02:39.12 louipc sweet
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05:32.13 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/other/openNURBS/ (5 files): so sayeth he, it shall not come to pass -- too many integration issues for now so make/leave it as part of librt
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07:54.45 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/nsis/Makefile.am: it's an icon, not a disk image
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12:42.35 Waimea_ brlcad: here?
13:26.48 brlcad Waimea_: yep
13:27.13 Waimea_ brlcad: your recommendations for the gym are great, it seems to work!
13:27.28 Waimea_ brlcad: suddenly the wights jumped up a step and I don't feel tired like before
13:28.07 Waimea_ brlcad: I am thinking about dithering the trainings dynamically without actually needing to keep any paperwork or remember anything
13:28.29 Waimea_ store the information distributed in the individual muscles and read it out by feeling :)
13:33.27 ``Erik damn, knew I shoulda committed before leaving yesterday
13:44.40 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/ (configure.ac src/other/openNURBS/opennurbs.h): cope with alloca issue in openNURBS
13:44.40 brlcad Waimea_: glad to hear it
13:44.40 brlcad there is a method to the madness ;)
13:45.36 brlcad working out by feeling is good too, by failure is even better but you have to be careful -- as is actually testing your 1-rep max about once every other month or so (must be done carefully and usually with a spotter, regardless of the muscle)
13:47.48 Waimea_ the last sentence is too complicated for someone who goes to a gym
13:47.55 Waimea_ could you explain simpler?
13:50.22 ``Erik max lift can be done in a jungle gym, too, as long as you do building with freeweights to get the proper muscle formation...
13:50.58 ``Erik (says the guy with no muscles ;)
13:53.33 Waimea_ what's max lift?
13:53.41 Waimea_ Something fat people use instead of the stairs?
13:54.09 ``Erik no, lifting as absolutely much as possible... just 1 time...
13:54.23 Waimea_ doesn't this damage the muscle or the tendons?
13:55.00 ``Erik that'ts why ya have to be careful... and do it infrequently...
13:55.18 Waimea_ can a scar tissue form without pain?
13:58.02 elite01_ of course you can get wounded without even noticing it
13:59.36 Waimea_ is this meant seriously or ironically?
14:01.24 Waimea_ brlcad: what do you think?
14:01.29 Waimea_ ``Erik: or you?
14:13.05 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/other/openNURBS/opennurbs.h: grab brlcad_config.h to make sure the right things are defined
14:13.51 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/other/openNURBS/opennurbs_point.cpp: include ieeefp.h if available for finite()
14:18.16 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/include/conf/Makefile.am: rework the configuration files so that they will work even if they pull read-only files from top_srcdir (e.g. during a distcheck on some platforms). shouldn't need the all-local with BUILT_SOURCES being defined.
14:20.54 brlcad Waimea_: testing your one rep max is a common thing, particularly for "someone who goes to a gym" frequently (at least power lifters)
14:21.59 Waimea_ brlcad: can you get scar tissue from that without actually feeling pain?
14:22.12 brlcad basically, it's a controlled measure of what your current power level is -- starting out with rested muscles, warm them up with something really light, then put on what you can only do 2-3 reps of before failing
14:23.13 brlcad once you do that -- add a little more weight, try another rep, repeat if you need to until you can only do just one (taking long breaks in between)
14:23.24 ``Erik bah. meeting time.
14:23.43 brlcad "just one" being done relatively slowly, controlled, no bouncing, no lunging, etc
14:24.25 Waimea_ no screams during which the window panes pop out from the frames?
14:25.12 brlcad think of it like taking your temperature with a thermometer, it's not meant to be a workout -- it's a measure of your strength (which is why you really need a spotter so that your first 2-3 rep guess really is just a 2-rep guess so that attempt #2 is 1-rep max and attempt #3 is failure
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18:34.22 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/librt/Makefile.am: use SSE conditional for BREP_CPPFLAGS, so we can build brep support on non-sse archs
18:41.48 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/libbu/ (badmagic.c bu_tcl.c): some sprintf->snprintf and some minor cleanup of magic numbers
18:42.28 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/libbu/ (convert.c fopen_uniq.c vfont.c vls.c): some sprintf->snprintf
18:52.20 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/other/openNURBS/ (opennurbs.h opennurbs_system.h):
18:52.20 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: opennurbs_system.h has compiler checks for alloca and inclusion of alloca --
18:52.21 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: just needs another for sun. not as robust as the lengths autoconf suggests, but
18:52.21 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: then neither is using our brlcad_config.h in a public header. need to retest on
18:52.21 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: sun/irix to see if the ON_COMPILER_IRIX and ON_COMPILER_SUN work (else tweak the
18:52.23 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: defines).
19:10.11 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/libfb/Makefile.am: add libsocket and libnsl where required (solaris)
19:13.22 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/libfb/Makefile.am: do run-time substitution instead of generation time... for consistency
19:13.51 brlcad rum-time?
19:14.03 ``Erik heh, I wish :D
19:14.10 ``Erik ${LIBSOCKET} instead of @LIBSOCKET@
19:14.15 brlcad ahh yeah
19:14.19 brlcad few of those turds remaining
19:14.32 brlcad not many though
19:14.42 ``Erik I put one of those turds in, then was doing hte fix elsewhere and noticed it was an outlyer...
19:14.46 brlcad you get chance to retest opennurbs?
19:15.19 ``Erik um, lemme update
19:15.24 ``Erik after this commit unlocks
19:15.51 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/remrt/Makefile.am: add libsocket and libnsl where required (solaris)
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19:20.01 brlcad woot, that's like .. dual core !!wowlol!!
19:20.21 ``Erik hehehe, that's the irix box... the sun is way way juicier, with a pair of 450's
19:20.49 ``Erik the quad core 2ghz opteron is still impressive O.o
19:21.26 ``Erik src/other/openNURBS/opennurbs_archive.cpp:7106: error: `
19:21.27 ``Erik <PROTECTED>
19:21.34 ``Erik you dun br0ked the sun build
19:22.00 ``Erik (it needs alloca.h to be included... I d'no what you were changin'...)
19:28.40 ``Erik with gcc on solaris, it needs alloca.h
19:31.30 ``Erik and gcc on solaris doesn't -DSUNOS
19:31.40 ``Erik -D__GNUC__=3 -D__GNUC_MINOR__=3 -D__GNUC_PATCHLEVEL__=1 -Dsparc -D__sparc__ -D__sparc -D__GCC_NEW_VARARGS__
19:32.29 ``Erik :/ since fbsd, linux, et al can run on sparc, I don't think any sparc name is safe to use... brlcad_config.h has enough info to get us there, though...
19:33.02 ``Erik (I kinda think it's better to try to avoid any os or arch name and work with detected feature as much as possible... like the existance of alloca.h)
19:52.16 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/libbu/parallel.c: use size_t instead of unsigned int for casting a pointer to an int (warning on 64b opteron/fbsd)
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20:17.16 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ (14 files in 4 dirs): fix various compiler warnings
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21:03.04 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/include/opennurbs_ext.h: Add get_closest_point function declaration
21:04.42 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/include/vector.h: Move vector point/matrix functionality here from g_brep.cpp
21:05.55 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/conv/iges/brlcad_brep.cpp: Simplify call to pullback_curve during testing
21:07.47 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/librt/g_brep.cpp: Move vector point/matrix functions to vector.h. Fix some pointer/reference passing issues.
21:09.52 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/librt/opennurbs_ext.cpp: Fix parameter passing, and integrate surfacetree through pullback_curve function
22:04.22 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/include/conf/Makefile.am: attempt yet again, don't use cp since it will complain about identical files -- use the kitten.
22:05.32 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/include/Makefile.am: need opennurbs_ext.h in the dist
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