IRC log for #brlcad on 20070606

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05:16.10 brlcad python /names
05:16.22 brlcad alllrighty then
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07:57.31 jack- tarzeau: "ksquirrel" is missing in debian+ubuntu
07:57.37 jack- wonder why, its a nice one
07:59.27 tarzeau jack-: kde software? i avoid all qt/gtk/kde/gnome software
07:59.28 jack- let me know if you think we should "found" #packaging-whores on freenode or so :P
07:59.33 jack- yeah, kde stuff
07:59.35 jack- ok then
07:59.42 tarzeau heh, no but did you look at the debian2fink thing?
07:59.49 jack- evolvotron is qt too though ;)
07:59.56 tarzeau i wasn't able to build evolvotron
07:59.56 jack- but it owns..and yes i did
08:00.01 tarzeau some qt exceptions are ok
08:00.07 jack- hold on a sec
08:00.16 tarzeau ++ -c -pipe -Wall -W -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math '-DEVOLVOTRON_VERSION="0.4.0"' '-DEVOLVOTRON_BUILD="0.4.0 (Build options: Release)"' -DNDEBUG -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -pthread -D_REENTRANT -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED -DQT_TABLET_SUPPORT -I/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I/usr/include/qt3 -Imoc/ -o dialog_favourite.o dialog_favourite.cpp
08:00.21 tarzeau mutation_parameters.h:269: error: extra qualification 'MutationParameters::' on member 'random_function_stub'
08:00.24 tarzeau mutation_parameters.h:280: error: extra qualification 'MutationParameters::' on member 'random_function'
08:00.28 tarzeau function_node.h:136: error: extra qualification 'FunctionNode::' on member 'stubiterations'
08:00.31 tarzeau mutatable_image.h:71: warning: unused parameter 'sinz'
08:00.33 tarzeau can you help?
08:00.51 jack- hold on :) and lets do that somewhere else, the brlcad folks will mind
08:00.54 jack- one sec
08:02.35 jack- come join #packaging-whores
09:05.40 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * 10brlcad/src/librt/librt.dsp: Add opennurbs_ext functionality to librt
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10:37.48 yukonbob can anybody give me some direction to finding out what "cut direction" means in the dsp primitive?
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11:14.12 producemench total newby here, sorry, is there a staffer available?
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11:24.09 producemench anyone home?
11:24.31 producemench I'm looking to set up my brand new BRL CAD on ubuntu
11:24.39 tarzeau hey producemench
11:24.47 producemench Hiya
11:24.49 tarzeau producemench: i'm working on making official packages for debian and ubuntu :)
11:24.49 producemench :)
11:24.54 producemench yay
11:24.59 tarzeau producemench: you get it to build?
11:25.00 producemench I got a .deb
11:25.06 Laniakea_ tarzeau: do you use brl-cad or do you just port it for debian?
11:25.26 producemench i don't port or use yet :(
11:25.28 tarzeau Laniakea_: i just want to make the package first, once it works, i might even use it! for sure
11:25.35 producemench I just got it from sf
11:25.37 tarzeau producemench: from where got you the deb?
11:25.40 tarzeau ah that one
11:25.43 producemench yep
11:25.46 producemench no go yet
11:26.07 tarzeau k
11:26.22 producemench any idea how to get the first command to work?
11:26.59 producemench I used gdebi to install the package but I don't think it's configured right
11:27.44 producemench tarz?
11:29.00 producemench should I be at the ubuntu forum?
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11:39.04 tarzeau i don't know
11:45.42 producemench <PROTECTED>
11:45.58 producemench hehe
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11:49.04 producemench well, I'll try back when I know more about IRC. Good to meet you tarz. Glad you're out there. :)
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13:13.51 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * 10brlcad/include/plot3.h: one more consistency cleanup (__ in header protection of vmath.h)
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13:33.25 ``Erik *yawn*
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15:02.32 thing0 hey all
15:02.41 thing0 how is everyone?
15:06.41 tarzeau fine thanks
15:10.08 thing0 that's good
15:21.03 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * 10brlcad/include/config_win.h: proper for-scope in MSVC 6.0
15:26.33 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * 10brlcad/src/librt/opennurbs_ext.cpp: evaluate HAVE_DRAND48 before calling drand48
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17:31.29 poolio Should I have a looksy?
17:49.29 tarzeau are there plans to make a cocoa interface (for mac os x, and maybe gnustep) of brlcad?
17:57.32 brlcad tarzeau: you mean a non-X11 interface or do you really mean a *cocoa* api interface
17:58.21 brlcad yeah, for non-x11, aquatk is the way to go and my tests here seem to indicate that it might actually (finally) be stable enough
17:58.53 brlcad but i've still not been able to get all of mged up in aquatk without some x11 sneaking in (and crashing mged)
17:59.34 brlcad that is still, howver, the "next step" for mged on mac os x
17:59.34 tarzeau brlcad: yeah i really mean cocoa, NS* interface
17:59.39 tarzeau brlcad: because that'd look so much nicer (on mac os x, and gnustep at least :)
17:59.53 tarzeau i know it's wanted a lot, but maybe there's a plan, or someone doing it. who knows?
17:59.59 brlcad hm, several folks toyed with the idea and even wrote some initial mock interfaces in cocoa
18:00.31 brlcad tarzeau: you do realize that aquatk uses the same look and feel, that's not x11
18:00.33 poolio How bout a _good looking_ x11 interface first ;)
18:00.43 ``Erik make tk look good
18:00.46 tarzeau poolio: gnustep works on x11!
18:00.50 ``Erik then BRL-CAD will look good :D
18:01.15 tarzeau poolio: http://io.debian.net/~tar/screenshots/emacs.app.png
18:01.54 ``Erik gnustep is such a pain, though, requiring a modified objC compiler and everything :/
18:01.58 poolio tarzeau: yes, is there a point to showing me that?
18:02.10 poolio just install osx86
18:04.41 brlcad ayam uses aquatk iirc: http://ayam.sourceforge.net/ayam-macosx-aqua2.png
18:07.39 jack- heh
18:08.14 jack- i'll feed you some x11 screenshots, but no aqua stuff in my brlcad package for now ;)
18:08.25 jack- leaving out adrt even saves me from sdl
18:08.31 jack- so it's purely x11
18:10.32 jack- tarzeau: if you run x11 rootless and use a wm like "OroborX"
18:10.44 jack- you have pretty much a real aqua interface at least
18:10.54 tarzeau ok ok
18:11.10 tarzeau i like detachable menus
18:11.25 tarzeau it's the feel i like about NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP and their free software gnustep clone
18:11.40 jack- yeah
18:11.57 jack- afterstep was the first wm i really liked when i started
18:12.09 jack- just because of that slight nextstep feel
18:13.57 poolio ugh I hate afterstep, and windowmaker.
18:14.40 jack- i wouldnt want to use it anymore, but back then i had fun with it :)
18:15.16 tarzeau any of you worked with the original of the company NeXT?
18:15.23 jack- yup
18:15.30 jack- the so called cubes
18:15.35 tarzeau yeah :)
18:15.39 jack- company of a friend had 3 of them
18:15.40 tarzeau jack-: me too: http://gnu.ethz.ch/www.levenez.com/
18:15.58 tarzeau i miss the quality, speed and intuitivness
18:16.14 tarzeau openoffice and mozilla (firefox) are just huge monsters
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18:38.38 brlcad tarzeau: mged actually has all the hooks in it for detachables menus too with tk
18:38.43 brlcad it's just turned off :)
18:38.48 tarzeau :)
18:39.13 brlcad had it on for a couple releases, but bob had some motivation for turning it off eventually
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19:02.18 tarzeau hehe ok
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20:19.00 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/include/opennurbs_ext.h: Implement getLeaves and depth support on SurfaceTree for trim preprocessing
20:21.38 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/librt/g_brep.cpp: Finish implementation of preprocess_trims, start implementation on trim support methods (count_intersections), since openNURBS leaves the curve intersection routines unimplemented
20:22.54 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/librt/opennurbs_ext.cpp: Add delegate implementations of depth and getLeaves for SurfaceTree
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20:33.27 RodGallowGlass http://www.pastebin.ca/545645 <---- needs <assert.h>
20:40.57 ``Erik thanks :)
20:41.21 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/conv/iges/brlcad_brep.cpp: missing required header (assert.h)
20:50.28 RodGallowGlass :)
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20:50.58 RodGallowGlass shall i do a cvs update :P
20:51.40 ``Erik if you want... that last commit was the assert.h fix... it built through on my fbsd box *shrug* :)
20:51.58 ``Erik and I grepped the dir for other uses of assert() without assert.h
20:52.20 RodGallowGlass good job, faled to do that herfe, but then i rely on my compiler.
20:52.25 RodGallowGlass failed too
20:53.58 ``Erik can't always trust the compiler to be as mean as it should be *shrug* :)
20:54.02 RodGallowGlass heh not all gcc's are created equeally
20:54.20 RodGallowGlass --mean-mode, i wonder...
20:55.01 ``Erik ../../configure --enable-beat-me-whip-me-make-it-hurt=yes
20:55.04 ``Erik *cough* O:-)
20:55.09 RodGallowGlass :)
20:56.29 ``Erik unfortunately, the cc test autoconf uses fails if you have CFLAGS="-W -Wall -Werror -ansi -pedantic" :/
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21:14.44 RodGallowGlass if that ones female, you can offer "service" (running away really really fast) :)
21:16.33 RodGallowGlass so use -Wl,beat-me-with-reporting-every-possible-condition
21:16.43 RodGallowGlass :)
21:16.59 RodGallowGlass gotta go mow the lawn.
21:18.14 ``Erik later
21:37.43 yukonbob can anybody give me some direction to finding out what "cut direction" means in the dsp primitive?
21:39.28 brlcad if you see "cadguy" join, he can tell you ALL about cut directions and all the nitty gritty details of the dsp
21:39.46 brlcad (he implemented it)
21:40.00 yukonbob sounds good ;)
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21:40.45 yukonbob I'm _not_ being impatiant, but have you patched that looping-malloc issue with DSPs?
21:40.57 yukonbob *impatient
22:49.26 brlcad yukonbob: no, not yet :(
22:52.01 brlcad totally distracted yesterday and today with a task
22:53.00 brlcad the "cut" parameter for dsps is basically telling the ray-tracer what to do between the different cell values
22:53.29 brlcad the default is "ad" for adaptive, which means it'll make a smooth surface, interpolating between the values
22:55.01 brlcad one of the others is no interpolation, so you see a lot of flat surfaces for each cell
22:55.06 brlcad and I forget what the third one does
22:55.13 brlcad so it wasn't that important ;)
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23:10.19 producemench does anyone mind helping a newbie configure brl-cad?
23:11.00 producemench I was on yesterday, but I didn't know irc very well. sorry if I annoyed anyone.
23:11.10 brlcad ./configure --enable-optimized --disable-adrt --disable-jove --prefix=/usr/brlcad && make && sudo make install ;)
23:11.37 producemench thanks a bazillion :))))
23:11.40 producemench ciao
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