IRC log for #brlcad on 20070611

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05:42.11 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/mged/ged.c:
05:42.11 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: remove the disable the call to Tcl_DeleteInterp for release since there seems to
05:42.11 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: be some reference counting issues in a6, remvoe the bu_semaphore_release call
05:42.11 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: too as release pairs with acquire, not with init (there is presently no free
05:42.11 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: routine that pairs with init)
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07:22.20 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/TODO: all the docs should now be in the docs section, pix-png output was fixed to check for console output
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15:05.45 thing0 hey there
15:06.59 akreal hello thing0!
15:07.08 thing0 hey akreal
15:07.10 thing0 sup?
15:07.21 akreal what does it mean?
15:07.35 akreal sorry i'm kinda newbie :)
15:09.45 thing0 lol
15:09.53 thing0 sup = what is up = how are you
15:09.54 thing0 :P
15:11.46 akreal ah! nice, thx ) finally ran mged... looking for what to do next
15:12.01 akreal and u?
15:12.11 thing0 just fried from work
15:12.17 thing0 got a review on wednesday
15:12.25 thing0 tomorrow is going to be a nightmare
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15:31.07 thing0 me sleep now
15:31.08 thing0 bye!
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16:21.04 ertugerata salut
16:21.12 Chocobo I dont know where else to ask this: Does anyone know of a CAAD program for linux? brl-cad seems awesome, but not really aimed towards floor-plans and architecture.
16:21.16 Chocobo Hi :)
16:22.41 ertugerata ı need just deps for brlcad
16:22.46 ertugerata i need just deps for brlcad
16:25.47 ertugerata http://brlcad.org/overview.html,i compile on source
16:44.41 brlcad ertugerata: see the INSTALL file in the source distribution
16:45.15 ertugerata thanks ; url for deps not found
16:45.18 brlcad there are no required dependencies other than a compiler and probably a command shell that brl-cad does not directly provide or auto-detect
16:45.28 brlcad what url for deps?
16:45.43 brlcad there is no url for deps, read the INSTALL file :)
16:46.08 brlcad though I suppose I could give you a url to the INSTALL file, if that much isn't clear ;)
16:46.09 ertugerata libbu,libdm, needed ?
16:46.17 brlcad those are brl-cad libraries
16:46.47 brlcad what are you trying to do?
16:47.26 brlcad Chocobo: alas, brl-cad and qcad are about as close as it gets in terms of open-source software for caad
16:47.50 brlcad which of course isn't saying much :) .. patches and developers to work those areas are, of course, more than welcome
16:48.34 brlcad brl-cad has more of the foundations for caad that just about everything else out there, just sans gui
16:48.39 jack- yup
16:48.48 jack- its a pretty complete system :)
16:48.55 jack- and 100% open source
16:48.55 brlcad mind you, i'm specifically referring to open source -- if you want commercial, there are some options but those aren't my concern ;)
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16:57.00 obsoleteman hi all
16:57.48 brlcad howdy
16:59.32 obsoleteman anyone knows, it needs BRL-CAD Runtime Libraries when i build brlcad from source?
17:01.37 Chocobo thanks brlcad, maybe I will give it a shot :)
17:02.02 brlcad obsoleteman: you mean run-time debugging?
17:02.28 Chocobo Yeah, most of the non open source applications seem to be german.... I can't even read their websites :)
17:02.29 obsoleteman brlcad: no "i mean Are BRL-CAD Runtime Libraries needed only to run programme, not build time dependency?"
17:03.56 brlcad obsoleteman: I guess that depends on what do you mean by "BRL-CAD Runtime Libraries"? BRL-CAD includes about a dozen libraries that will be compiled and installed and by default, those libraries will need to be installed for the apps to work just like anything else
17:04.55 brlcad if you disable shared library builds, then everything will link static and there should be no runtime dependencies, but then you're compilation and install are going to be truely *massive* in terms of disk usage
17:07.00 brlcad Chocobo: fantastisch :)
17:07.06 obsoleteman brlcad: ok. understand that. i mean BRL-CAD Runtime Libraries in sourceforge home page. but they seem for only win32. no problem. thanks
17:07.08 obsoleteman :)
17:07.22 brlcad ooooh, THOSE run-time libraries
17:07.47 brlcad yeah, ignore those even if you're on windows unless you're developing brl-cad applications ;)
17:07.49 obsoleteman :)
17:07.59 Chocobo maybe I will just use graph paper.
17:08.24 brlcad that's basically just a library-only release (which so far has only been done for windows) .. as there are many developer-users of brl-cad that use our libraries but not our tools
17:08.33 brlcad folks using brl-cad as a ray-tracing engine or a geometry engine
17:10.02 obsoleteman brlcad: thanks again for information and good application. we are going to package brlcad for Pardus then :)
17:11.17 obsoleteman brlcad: our packager ertugerata in this chanell
17:12.23 obsoleteman may be we will speak abot packaging soon
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17:19.39 IriX64 http://www.pastebin.ca/559130 <--- left it compiling last night, woke up to this, last update from cvs around 11:00pm eastern
17:20.27 IriX64 updating again, hoping its fixed :)
17:21.41 IriX64 thought i took that random number generator outts the compiler ;)
17:21.49 IriX64 outta too
17:23.45 IriX64 i'm told to report the symptom, it doesn't compile man.
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17:31.23 IriX64 man theres no reference to those inflate functions it's calling not even an extern definition.
17:32.44 IriX64 same for deflate
17:33.27 IriX64 not gonna fight with it (I am a man of peace :)) going back to 7.8.8 for now.
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17:43.56 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/bench/benchmark.1: improve documentation, include the OPTIONS and command in the synopsis as well as a whole new section with some examples. initial revision was in 1988.
17:45.28 brlcad IriX64: you're missing -lz from your link line for some reason
17:45.41 brlcad it needs libz aka zlib
17:45.56 IriX64 its supposed to be building zlib no?
17:46.06 brlcad depends entirely on what you tell it to do
17:46.15 IriX64 enable everythibg
17:46.18 IriX64 thing
17:46.40 IriX64 let me reconfigure.
17:47.57 IriX64 thankyou
17:50.05 IriX64 you know your code well.
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19:15.40 obsoleteman brlcad: hi again, brlcad compiles succesfully bur tehere is no *.desktop file for menu entry. how we start the application using commandline? which command ?
19:26.55 brlcad obsoleteman: if you'd be willing to create/provide a .desktop file, I'd be glad to add it
19:27.11 brlcad otherwise, there are many possible starting points -- brl-cad is a suite of tools
19:27.37 brlcad mged is where many folks start, which has a fair set of documentation on the website at http://brlcad.org
19:29.34 obsoleteman brlcad: why not, we ll provide some *.dektop file. (for mged maybe more)
19:34.14 brlcad mged, archer, and rtwizard are probably the only three double-clickable apps of interest until there's a brl-cad command shell
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19:35.14 obsoleteman ok brlcad we re preparing mged, archer, and rtwizard desktop files.
19:36.33 brlcad awesome
19:39.04 yukonbob afternoon folks
19:47.08 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/TODO:
19:47.08 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: jason feels it's probably best to make mods to openNURBS itself now in order to
19:47.08 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: fully integrate/complete the brep implementation and given his implementation
19:47.08 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: uses libbu and libbn extensively, this move will make openNURBS similarly
19:47.08 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: dependent. thus, the intent is to then to effectively fork openNURBS and make
19:47.10 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: it a noinst brl-cad sub-library (either in librt or up a level) for obtaining
19:47.12 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: brep support.
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21:21.45 cadguy Yowza. That's a serious decision
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21:36.51 yukonbob cadguy: hey -- I was chatting w/ brlcad about dsp and "cut direction"... he said you coded it and could explain what that's about?
21:37.10 yukonbob ad vs lR vs Lr
22:53.13 yukonbob hrm
22:59.00 brlcad heh
22:59.22 brlcad he looks at irc about once a day at best (if even that) .. just have to happen to catch him
22:59.26 yukonbob :) how's it going brlcad?
22:59.58 brlcad pretty good, how're things over in the yukon? :)
23:00.28 yukonbob not so bad... had a good w/e (http://www.methodlogic.net/flat/gfx/)
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23:16.15 yukonbob brlcad: ?did you see my note re: that malloc issue
23:34.58 ``Erik whichwhathuhnowwhat?
23:36.23 IriX64 http://www.pastebin.ca/559961

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