IRC log for #brlcad on 20070612

00:17.03 IriX64 http://irix32.spaces.live.com/photos 1st pix, results of that photon map
00:18.21 IriX64 thats with importance mapping,use irradiance hypersampling cache, and visualize irradiance cache selected
00:19.50 IriX64 Where do I put the light Twingy :)
00:21.48 Twingy inside a box
00:22.11 IriX64 have to wire up a switch...just a sec
00:22.15 Twingy I've already told you this on 3 separate occaisons over the last 6 months
00:22.32 Twingy so I am going to ignore you if you ask me again
00:22.54 IriX64 I do not know how to set matrials to light source, I am *not a brlcad user
00:22.59 IriX64 materials too
00:23.06 IriX64 :)
00:23.19 IriX64 i don't mind being ignored :)
00:24.32 IriX64 you notice, I'm always working with *your example geometry?, Heck I even screwed up the mug exercise
00:26.03 Twingy I don't get it
00:26.11 Twingy you spend all this time in here talking and compiling the program
00:26.25 Twingy and you complain about all these things, and you don't even know the most fundamental thing about how to use the program
00:26.31 Twingy if I were the channel moderator here I'd ban you
00:27.02 IriX64 i rarely complain
00:27.02 Twingy you are lucky sean is a nice guy
00:27.11 Twingy my tolerance is much less than his
00:27.57 IriX64 on that note i'll delve into the innards of 7-10 again :)
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00:33.05 yukonbob cadguy: hey -- I was chatting w/ brlcad about dsp and "cut direction"... he said you coded it and could explain what that's about?
00:33.15 yukonbob ie: ad vs. lR vs. Lr
00:44.39 cadguy Yes. You can choose to always cut each cell top from ll to UR or UL to lr or in the direction of most curvature
00:45.19 cadguy ad says cut along direction of greatest curvature. This makes things like hilltops look more natural, rather than having saw-toothed tops
00:46.03 cadguy So, lR is lower left to Upper Right, Lr is Upper Left to lower right, and ad is "adaptive"
00:47.49 yukonbob cadguy: OK... I'm not clear on what "cut" means, though.
00:51.07 cadguy Ah. In a dsp each "cell" has 4 corners on top. If the 4 points aren't all co-planar, you have to "cut" it into two triangles
00:51.50 cadguy Consider the following DSP data as a 2x2 DSP grid: 1 1 1 2
00:52.11 cadguy The "2" elevation is not co-planar with the other points
00:52.25 cadguy No plane includes all 4 points
00:52.36 cadguy So you have to "facetize" the top of the DSP cell
00:52.56 cadguy The code does this for you by "cutting the top"
00:54.43 cadguy If you picked lR for the above example, it would cut from a 1 to a 1
00:54.56 cadguy If you picked Lr it would cut from a 1 to a 2
00:55.43 cadguy If the grid were larger, selecting "ad" would cause the code to cut in the direction that preserved curvature. We used to have an example laying around.
00:59.41 yukonbob I'm not 100% clear what you're saying, but perhaps playing will help me figure it out... If I generate my own 10x10 say, will I be able to see the effects by playing with 1s and 2s?
01:00.01 yukonbob ie: 1-unit and 2-unit elevations.
01:00.45 cadguy yes. You should be able to see it.
01:01.01 cadguy I'll see if I can come up with a good example
01:04.49 IriX64 err Twingy, if you guys would rather that dedication to Mr. Muss weren't there I'll honor your wishes.
01:05.19 Twingy don't ask me!
01:05.34 IriX64 you too have a vote :)
01:05.42 Twingy I rescind my vote!
01:06.04 IriX64 leaves the rest of the jury in this Kangaroo court then :)
01:07.23 IriX64 What I'm gently trying to say is would his family mind do you think?
01:07.57 Twingy you are talking to the wrong guy
01:08.05 cadguy Where will the dedication go?
01:08.15 cadguy I know them well
01:08.53 IriX64 It's on the help button, dedication
01:09.18 cadguy no offense would be taken
01:09.21 IriX64 its part of what i sent for examination
01:12.11 IriX64 windowsside albumn, bldg391 photonmapped
01:12.37 IriX64 thankyou cadguy
01:12.54 cadguy ok.
01:26.25 IriX64 my only gripe with these other x-servers for windows is that you have to open a frame buffer to ray trace or photonmap into.
01:28.03 IriX64 if they'd open the port O_SHARE | O_DENY_NONE | O_READ | O_WRITE i'm sure that probelm would go away.
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01:40.17 IriX64 http://irix32.spaces.live.com/photos Havoc
01:40.36 IriX64 ill shut up now and go back to work :)
01:43.18 IriX64 you wonder why I play with 7.8.8? Get it working there and transplant it to 7.10 when i get my build issues resolved.
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02:14.05 brlcad yukonbob: yes I saw it an alas i've still not had time to dig deep just yet, hopefully after tomorrow afternoon :/
02:35.41 IriX64 you hardcoded the darn usr/brlcad prefix into tcl/tk????????
02:44.09 IriX64 go figure i reran it and its proper.
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03:16.55 yukonbob brlcad: np -- I'm interested in a fix, but I don't know your workload... Looking forward to it when you get the time to attack :)
06:16.58 yukonbob .
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09:38.32 ertugerata hi
09:39.29 ertugerata my problem with archer and rtwizard
09:42.37 ertugerata http://rafb.net/p/qujjRC23.html
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17:04.11 IriX64 somebody fed my gremlin after midnight :)
17:25.25 IriX64 dunno if you want this but i noticed same thing in 7.10 too http://www.pastebin.ca/562002
17:34.48 IriX64 http://www.pastebin.ca/562022 <--- this one too
17:35.11 IriX64 ill stop now because you said warnings were no concern
17:42.21 IriX64 the problems, in tk, i compiled against a system tk8.5a6 with brlcad-7.8.4 bwish blows up!
17:51.52 IriX64 probably tied to tk_mainloop not being found in ac_checklib tk...
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18:46.54 IriX64 point proven, it's making fine with the included tcl/tk 8.4
18:50.17 IriX64 well i've got brlcad built, I can safely wipe out Cygwin now :P
18:55.21 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/other/openNURBS/ (8 files): Add implemention of and support for NumIntersectionsWith(ON_Line)... all in support for trimming curve tests
18:57.05 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/librt/g_brep.cpp: Change brep_pt_trimmed to use NumIntersectionsWith() method in openNURBS. will make the unfinished brep_count_intersections() function obsolete...
18:59.19 IriX64 http://www.pastebin.ca/562263 <---if you need proof it builds with tcl8.4.
19:01.37 IriX64 btw this configure too does not see Tk_MainLoop in tk8.5a5 or tk8.5a5
19:01.47 IriX64 err a6
19:07.24 IriX64 you wonder how then did i get it to compile against tk8.5? I simply put the libs in and set the path to libtk, it found it.
19:07.57 IriX64 not trying to snow you here simply trying to help.
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19:21.54 IriX64 slowest startup of mged i've ever seen :)
19:25.13 IriX64 renamed the cygwin directory to cassie and this thing is running truly standalone``Erik.
19:25.27 IriX64 broke cygwinx tho :)
19:26.39 IriX64 using Xwin32 in demo mode dunno if it'll have time to photonmap
19:32.34 IriX64 http://irix32.spaces.live.com/photos windowsside albumn what it did out of the box.
19:35.13 IriX64 same url and albumn, photonmap outta the box
19:36.14 IriX64 maybe i better buy this xwin32, it's pretty decent
19:39.54 IriX64 gotta go i've got to prune the design shots outta the blogs:)
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