| 00:02.58 | jimmyz | anyone around |
| 01:21.04 | brlcad | ahh drat, missed daytona |
| 01:21.52 | jimmyz | hi brlcad |
| 01:21.58 | jimmyz | you there? |
| 01:47.12 | brlcad | hello |
| 01:47.58 | jimmyz | hi |
| 01:48.48 | jimmyz | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.25 | brlcad | eh, doesn't sound like it |
| 01:51.32 | brlcad | the message sounds a bit bogus |
| 01:51.50 | brlcad | presumably related to the "Program Files" directory |
| 01:52.01 | jimmyz | the file doesn't have a type - no suffix |
| 01:52.08 | jimmyz | i'm thinking virus |
| 01:52.20 | brlcad | could be |
| 01:52.36 | brlcad | the joys of working with Windows |
| 01:53.24 | jimmyz | scan came clean tho |
| 01:53.43 | jimmyz | maybe i created a directory in brlcad |
| 01:56.59 | jimmyz | can you uninstall brlcad? |
| 01:57.41 | brlcad | sure I can |
| 01:58.25 | brlcad | if something is complaining about a file called program, just look at that file -- delete it or rename it or whatever |
| 01:59.07 | jimmyz | S � � � fsolid |
| 01:59.31 | jimmyz | is first line of the file contents. looks brlcad related wouldn't you say? |
| 02:00.35 | brlcad | sure |
| 02:01.06 | brlcad | looks like something you created |
| 02:01.13 | brlcad | maybe a geometry file |
| 02:01.37 | jimmyz | hmm |
| 02:01.59 | brlcad | still, it's back to the same issue .. something is complaining about that file - presumably your OS? |
| 02:02.26 | jimmyz | yeah |
| 02:02.42 | jimmyz | i think you;re right |
| 02:02.48 | brlcad | and presumably you created it through some action .. not a big mystery -- just delete the file? :) |
| 02:02.53 | jimmyz | how do i uninstall it and reinstall it |
| 02:02.57 | jimmyz | there's another problem too |
| 02:03.10 | jimmyz | is says various files are not where they should be |
| 02:03.10 | brlcad | an uninstall won't remove any file you created |
| 02:03.18 | jimmyz | yeah, separate problem |
| 02:03.25 | jimmyz | i'll delete that |
| 02:03.36 | brlcad | it should be in your uninstall apps thing |
| 02:03.53 | brlcad | usual windows shield junk |
| 02:04.35 | jimmyz | thanks |
| 02:16.32 | jimmyz | nn all |
| 02:25.10 | brlcad | cya |
| 02:40.29 | jimmyz | reinstalled it. same problem |
| 02:40.38 | jimmyz | now it won't start up properly |
| 02:40.54 | jimmyz | says html/manuals.. are not where they should bw |
| 02:41.04 | jimmyz | *be |
| 02:41.32 | brlcad | does it actually start up, or are you just reading the message in console |
| 02:41.48 | brlcad | there are some messages mged writes into the console about not finding resources, those are normal on windows |
| 02:42.04 | brlcad | if you get the gui, though, it's fine |
| 02:42.05 | jimmyz | ahh i see |
| 02:42.21 | jimmyz | hmm, but the gui doesn't have menus at top now |
| 02:42.34 | brlcad | there should be two windows |
| 02:42.35 | jimmyz | and menus in command window are unresponsive |
| 02:42.57 | brlcad | eh |
| 02:43.10 | brlcad | i'm not sure what you've done |
| 02:43.40 | brlcad | i've never heard someone have so much trouble with just installing it on windows, you're .. special :) |
| 02:43.59 | jimmyz | gonna reboot comp |
| 02:44.06 | jimmyz | g'night again |
| 02:44.12 | jimmyz | thanks for your help |
| 02:44.15 | brlcad | best of luck |
| 02:44.32 | brlcad | the install is pretty much isolated to one location, easy to clean up and start over fresh |
| 02:44.54 | jimmyz | cool |
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| 09:11.57 | thing0 | hey yall |
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| 09:13.27 | thing0 | hey elite01 |
| 09:13.39 | elite01 | hi thing0 |
| 09:13.52 | thing0 | how you doing? |
| 09:14.12 | elite01 | quite ok |
| 09:14.28 | elite01 | you're fine as well? |
| 09:14.29 | thing0 | good |
| 09:14.35 | thing0 | nah, i'm sick |
| 09:14.41 | thing0 | it sucks |
| 09:14.57 | elite01 | i was sick the day before yesterday |
| 09:15.02 | thing0 | ahh |
| 09:15.06 | thing0 | it is not good |
| 09:15.10 | thing0 | hard to sleep |
| 09:15.10 | elite01 | no |
| 09:15.21 | thing0 | cannot take time off work either |
| 09:15.28 | elite01 | i actually slept well, but the day was quite ugly |
| 09:15.35 | thing0 | hehe |
| 09:15.58 | thing0 | i have fallen asleep two consectutive nights with my laptop on my bed |
| 09:16.14 | elite01 | haha |
| 09:16.37 | thing0 | yeah |
| 09:16.49 | thing0 | I actually also fell asleep on the couch with the laptop in my lap |
| 09:16.57 | thing0 | my little brother woke me |
| 09:16.58 | thing0 | up |
| 09:17.07 | thing0 | so that I wouldn't drop it |
| 09:17.23 | elite01 | i always manage to put my laptop on some shelf before i sleep |
| 09:17.39 | thing0 | sometimes i read articles |
| 09:17.42 | thing0 | before sleep |
| 09:17.45 | thing0 | and doze off |
| 09:18.03 | thing0 | i actually fell asleep at work during my lunch break |
| 09:18.07 | elite01 | i tend to watch star trek, reading soo late in a dark room makes my eyes hurt |
| 09:18.11 | thing0 | almost got an orange in the back of the head |
| 09:18.26 | thing0 | i read on purpose to make my eyes sore |
| 09:18.31 | thing0 | so that I close them and sleep :P |
| 09:18.39 | elite01 | hehe |
| 09:18.50 | thing0 | it works well |
| 09:19.50 | elite01 | do you care for your laptop battery? |
| 09:20.05 | thing0 | yeah |
| 09:20.15 | thing0 | I usually plug it in when I am sitting down |
| 09:20.34 | elite01 | i remove it while in bed because the laptop gets a bit hot with no real ventilation |
| 09:21.05 | thing0 | yeah |
| 09:21.19 | thing0 | I was thinking of adding extra rubber feet across the base of the laptop |
| 09:21.33 | thing0 | to allow it to sit higher on softer surfaces |
| 09:22.04 | elite01 | hmm mine has a fan on the back side, which i like |
| 09:23.32 | thing0 | my fan is underneath |
| 09:23.34 | thing0 | which I hate |
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| 09:24.51 | thing0 | but yeah |
| 09:26.32 | elite01 | what are you using brlcad for? |
| 09:28.02 | thing0 | nothing at the moment |
| 09:28.10 | thing0 | I am looking to join as a developer |
| 09:28.40 | thing0 | I am currently a user of Autodesk Inventor |
| 09:28.49 | thing0 | didn't apply to join there dev team |
| 09:29.02 | thing0 | cause I wanted to work here in mining first |
| 09:29.29 | thing0 | as it is the best industry at the moment to become a project manager |
| 09:29.33 | thing0 | as there is a lot of work on |
| 09:29.48 | thing0 | so I want to join BRLCAD as a hobby |
| 09:29.53 | elite01 | ah |
| 09:29.58 | thing0 | yeah |
| 09:30.23 | thing0 | i made enough noise at the autodesk forums |
| 09:30.46 | thing0 | was contacted by one of the lead software engineers for the modules |
| 09:30.48 | thing0 | hehe |
| 09:31.15 | thing0 | but yeah |
| 09:31.35 | thing0 | I was outraged when a component from there software was removed when they got bought out by autodesk |
| 09:31.56 | thing0 | apparently it didn't fit with the way the program was going |
| 09:32.04 | thing0 | so it got canned |
| 09:32.08 | thing0 | but yeah |
| 09:32.23 | elite01 | just removed is nasty |
| 09:32.28 | thing0 | yeah |
| 09:32.40 | thing0 | I couldn't get a copy of there old software either |
| 09:32.50 | thing0 | contacted all the old reseller which didn't have copies |
| 09:33.07 | elite01 | hmm |
| 09:33.13 | thing0 | it allowed for closed loop control of models |
| 09:33.22 | thing0 | which I thought was awesome |
| 09:33.33 | thing0 | but they removed the scripting engine |
| 09:33.56 | elite01 | they removed a whole scripting engine? |
| 09:34.11 | thing0 | the control part |
| 09:34.18 | thing0 | the physic based stuff is still there |
| 09:34.29 | elite01 | hm |
| 09:34.35 | thing0 | but you can only do limited open loop simulations |
| 09:34.44 | thing0 | so yeah |
| 09:35.04 | thing0 | no Middle level CAD company at the moment offers it |
| 09:35.07 | thing0 | which is kind of sad |
| 09:35.18 | thing0 | Solidworks sorta do it |
| 09:35.32 | thing0 | but it was an absolute nightmare trying to get anywhere with it |
| 09:35.43 | thing0 | and when I did, it still didn't meet my requirements |
| 09:35.52 | thing0 | a lot of time spent with SW support |
| 09:35.53 | thing0 | ;) |
| 09:35.54 | elite01 | that's a real problem |
| 09:35.58 | thing0 | yeah |
| 09:36.07 | thing0 | the only way you can do it easily |
| 09:36.11 | thing0 | is to use MSC.Adams |
| 09:36.18 | thing0 | which costs an arm and a leg |
| 09:36.30 | thing0 | and also requires translation from your CAD |
| 09:36.39 | thing0 | there is a free open source program now too |
| 09:36.43 | thing0 | for robot simulation |
| 09:36.55 | thing0 | but there CAD translator leaves a lot to be desired |
| 09:37.06 | thing0 | maybe we should have some cross link with them |
| 09:37.17 | thing0 | as in BRLCAD |
| 09:37.22 | thing0 | cannot think of the name at the moment |
| 09:45.47 | thing0 | nah |
| 09:45.50 | thing0 | it wasn't open source |
| 09:45.54 | thing0 | it was commercial |
| 09:45.56 | thing0 | webots |
| 09:53.23 | elite01 | scary :) |
| 09:56.13 | thing0 | hmm |
| 09:56.15 | thing0 | http://www.ode.org |
| 09:56.18 | thing0 | this looks good |
| 09:57.06 | elite01 | if you're in for a bit of c++ programming, sure :) |
| 10:00.07 | thing0 | yeah |
| 10:00.12 | thing0 | I ain't scared |
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| 10:41.25 | thing0 | back |
| 10:48.47 | elite01 | thing0, no need to be scared |
| 10:49.39 | thing0 | I never fear |
| 10:49.52 | thing0 | cause thing0 (pronounced THING O) is here |
| 10:49.53 | thing0 | hehe |
| 10:50.25 | elite01 | so i needn't even be scared because my excellent c skills fscked up vlc really badly |
| 10:50.45 | elite01 | they're lucky i don't have write access to their vcs :) |
| 10:51.02 | thing0 | hehe |
| 10:51.12 | thing0 | my coding skills need a bit more practise |
| 10:51.15 | thing0 | it has been awhile |
| 10:51.53 | elite01 | i think it's worth it |
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| 11:38.30 | thing0 | bbs |
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| 13:47.47 | thing0 | cya ppl |
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