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| 03:29.55 | brlcad | happy 4th for the USians | 
| 04:15.04 | poolio | ahhhhh | 
| 04:15.05 | poolio | happy 4th | 
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| 10:25.59 | thing0 | hey guys | 
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| 11:19.10 | thing0 | cya | 
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| 13:40.17 | ``Erik | well, it's the fourth for everyone... :D but happy independence day, all you damn american infidels | 
| 13:41.30 | archivist | grmbl us brits are working | 
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| 14:37.06 | MinuteElectron | wtf is vim's problem? you push the backspace key in insert mode and it outputs 'wuff wuff' - some people may have tons of time to mess about with silly things like that, but others have things to do. | 
| 14:39.53 | MinuteElectron | Ok, maybe it wasn't vim. | 
| 14:43.14 | brlcad | MinuteElectron: are you in screen? | 
| 14:43.20 | brlcad | wuff wuff sounds like screen | 
| 14:44.00 | brlcad | it prints that as the "bell character" since it can't readily beep | 
| 14:45.10 | MinuteElectron | yeah, it was screen | 
| 14:45.26 | MinuteElectron | brlcad: Why is the server type set to 'a monkey hitting...'? | 
| 14:46.48 | brlcad | for a variety of reasons | 
| 14:47.05 | MinuteElectron | Hmm, ok. | 
| 14:47.06 | brlcad | but mostly because it's something different | 
| 14:47.58 | MinuteElectron | Fine, just wondered - probably won't cause any trouble but Drupal says it might (since it cannot tell what server it is running on). I guess it doesn't matter. | 
| 14:48.25 | brlcad | yeah, it won't cause any trouble for drupal | 
| 14:48.44 | MinuteElectron | ok | 
| 14:49.05 | brlcad | one of the points for changing it is so external apps can't readily tell what server is running | 
| 14:49.27 | MinuteElectron | I see - more security mesaures. | 
| 14:49.30 | brlcad | aside from just being kinda funny/curious/interesting | 
| 14:49.50 | brlcad | one of about a hundred things like that on the server | 
| 14:50.43 | brlcad | pwd | 
| 14:50.54 | MinuteElectron | ~pwd | 
| 14:50.55 | ibot | it has been said that pwd is $pwd | 
| 14:51.06 | brlcad | :) | 
| 14:51.11 | brlcad | ~ww | 
| 14:51.12 | ibot | Wrong window pansie | 
| 14:51.30 | brlcad | ibot_: be nice | 
| 14:58.00 | MinuteElectron | hmm, vim is still being an arse. | 
| 14:59.23 | MinuteElectron | Oh dear, | 
| 14:59.53 | MinuteElectron | emacs wants to save its config file to /home/MinuteElectron - that appears to be my pwd, ha /me needs to fix that. | 
| 15:01.34 | brlcad | wow, how'd you do that? | 
| 15:01.52 | MinuteElectron | oh dear | 
| 15:01.55 | MinuteElectron | it still wants to | 
| 15:02.13 | MinuteElectron | brlcad: I have no idea, I still havem't fixed the problem though. | 
| 15:02.33 | MinuteElectron | I tried setting PWD in .profile but that didn't work | 
| 15:02.48 | brlcad | you shouldn't need to do that | 
| 15:03.19 | MinuteElectron | But when I type pwd I get '/home/MinuteElectron'. | 
| 15:05.11 | MinuteElectron | But wait, /home is a symlink to /usr/home so it should just work | 
| 15:05.21 | MinuteElectron | how odd | 
| 15:05.35 | MinuteElectron | but it also makes emacs unusable as I keep getting a bell message | 
| 15:06.12 | brlcad | where are you? | 
| 15:06.34 | MinuteElectron | what do you mean/ | 
| 15:06.35 | brlcad | what's the bell message for? | 
| 15:06.41 | MinuteElectron | emacs | 
| 15:06.53 | brlcad | no, i mean why is it giving you a bell? | 
| 15:07.10 | brlcad | what's it trying to do that's failing? | 
| 15:07.10 | MinuteElectron | because it can't write to /home/MinuteElectron/.emacs.d | 
| 15:07.23 | brlcad | now that's odd | 
| 15:07.30 | brlcad | you should be able to write to that | 
| 15:07.38 | MinuteElectron | I presume it is because I am sudo www | 
| 15:07.46 | brlcad | oooh | 
| 15:07.57 | brlcad | run emacs as yourself first | 
| 15:08.01 | MinuteElectron | ok | 
| 15:08.12 | brlcad | sudo retains the caller's ident | 
| 15:08.20 | brlcad | s/ident/environment | 
| 15:14.39 | MinuteElectron | ha, emacs is so much easier to use than vim | 
| 15:14.56 | brlcad | indeed | 
| 15:15.28 | MinuteElectron | Wonders how he actually managed to use vim. | 
| 15:16.17 | MinuteElectron | brlcad: Is tan an alright hyperlink color, i used it to match the navigation bar. | 
| 15:29.46 | brlcad | try FBD079 | 
| 15:32.45 | MinuteElectron | ok | 
| 15:33.08 | MinuteElectron | brlcad: I was already using that. | 
| 15:34.04 | brlcad | mm, minor dyslexia? :) | 
| 15:34.38 | brlcad | look closely | 
| 15:35.27 | MinuteElectron | shit | 
| 15:36.40 | MinuteElectron | Yeah, that looks better. | 
| 15:37.23 | brlcad | as good as it's gonna get at least with that nav bar ;) | 
| 15:37.38 | brlcad | i shoulda used a more gamma/websafe color | 
| 15:37.50 | brlcad | good enough, though | 
| 15:37.57 | MinuteElectron | ok | 
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| 15:43.13 | brlcad | there we go, ffc757, that's the gamma-corrected value that it *should* be (at least for my system) :) | 
| 15:43.56 | MinuteElectron | Yeah, perfect. | 
| 15:47.41 | MinuteElectron | brlcad: Can a no-reply e-mail address be used? e.g. no-reply@my.brlcad.org | 
| 15:48.52 | brlcad | sure you can use noreply at brlcad.org | 
| 15:49.19 | MinuteElectron | cool, thanks | 
| 15:50.50 | brlcad | webmaster @ can also be used | 
| 15:51.02 | brlcad | if you want it to go somewhere | 
| 15:51.05 | MinuteElectron | ok | 
| 15:52.08 | brlcad | there are also support, bugs, and dev emails depending on the purpose as well as a few others | 
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| 16:48.45 | yukonbob | when I go to "Request New Password", the links in the tabs ("Create new account", "Log in") are almost illegible as tan-on-white... | 
| 16:53.25 | MinuteElectron | it is not finished | 
| 16:53.31 | MinuteElectron | I am aware of such problems | 
| 16:53.41 | MinuteElectron | I still have to add styling to the tabs | 
| 16:53.55 | MinuteElectron | and make the boxes go on the right | 
| 16:54.01 | yukonbob | :) -- didn't figure that you were finished, but didn't know if you were aware... | 
| 16:54.04 | MinuteElectron | thanks for the info anyway | 
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| 16:57.29 | TDK_KNIGHT | hello | 
| 16:57.48 | TDK_KNIGHT | ? | 
| 17:00.39 | yukonbob | hello TDK_KNIGHT | 
| 17:01.37 | TDK_KNIGHT | hi | 
| 17:01.49 | TDK_KNIGHT | i'm looking for a linux cad promgram... | 
| 17:02.30 | TDK_KNIGHT | i'm runing fc4 on a am2 3500+ with 2gig of ram | 
| 17:03.04 | yukonbob | "cad" in what sense? What are you trying to do with it? BRLCAD is a constructive solid geometry modeller... | 
| 17:03.07 | poolio | Try BRL-CAD. brlcad.org | 
| 17:03.30 | TDK_KNIGHT | looking for somthing like autocad lol | 
| 17:04.23 | TDK_KNIGHT | don't work | 
| 17:06.15 | TDK_KNIGHT | i see bocad but their site is useles | 
| 17:27.01 | MinuteElectron | lol | 
| 17:27.05 | MinuteElectron | how ironic | 
| 17:27.58 | TDK_KNIGHT | huh? | 
| 17:28.34 | MinuteElectron | I am currently redesigning the BRL-CAD website and it will soon have more contnet. | 
| 17:28.34 | MinuteElectron | *content | 
| 17:28.36 | TDK_KNIGHT | o ok | 
| 17:28.40 | TDK_KNIGHT | lol | 
| 17:28.48 | TDK_KNIGHT | yea it looks prity well oldschool lol | 
| 17:28.52 | TDK_KNIGHT | right now | 
| 17:29.41 | IriX64 | should have bookmarked your site :) | 
| 17:32.10 | MinuteElectron | IriX64: Who's site? | 
| 17:32.18 | IriX64 | yours :) | 
| 17:32.31 | MinuteElectron | http://my.brlcad.org | 
| 17:32.39 | IriX64 | isn't drupal you ? | 
| 17:32.43 | IriX64 | oh | 
| 17:32.55 | MinuteElectron | http://82.7.33.27/ | 
| 17:33.29 | IriX64 | nice | 
| 17:33.44 | MinuteElectron | <3's his static IP address. | 
| 17:33.54 | MinuteElectron | no, http://82.7.33.28/ | 
| 17:33.56 | MinuteElectron | wrong number | 
| 17:34.06 | IriX64 | can i simply bookmark my.brlcad.org for now? | 
| 17:34.10 | MinuteElectron | yeah | 
| 17:34.14 | IriX64 | good | 
| 17:34.31 | MinuteElectron | :D | 
| 17:34.35 | IriX64 | :) | 
| 17:36.24 | IriX64 | should i wait to create an account :) | 
| 17:37.25 | TDK_KNIGHT | min thats looking good | 
| 17:38.14 | MinuteElectron | IriX64: Please wait, thanks. | 
| 17:38.20 | IriX64 | sure | 
| 17:41.02 | IriX64 | How well does the gui work in brlcad? | 
| 18:05.44 | AchiestDragon | 127.0.0.1 :) | 
| 18:09.53 | IriX64 | :0.0 :) | 
| 18:11.28 | IriX64 | compiling 7.8.4, several things missing in ogl support (I'm not gonna write them) :) | 
| 18:11.52 | AchiestDragon | \ >(O..O)< / | 
| 18:12.31 | IriX64 | don't know irc lingo like that sorry. | 
| 18:12.54 | AchiestDragon | \ >(O..O)< / = thows hands up in air | 
| 18:13.02 | IriX64 | thankyou | 
| 18:13.25 | IriX64 | which is takes keyboard in hand :) | 
| 18:35.35 | IriX64 | ok... it built, it's up.. now I guess it's time to peruse the docs. | 
| 18:40.08 | IriX64 | just playing around with the gui, raytraced havoc, toodles must run | 
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| 19:21.58 | SuperTaz | anything exciting? | 
| 19:22.30 | SuperTaz | I suppose not | 
| 19:22.38 | SuperTaz | :P | 
| 19:41.15 | poolio | errr oh well. | 
| 19:41.19 | poolio | it's a holiday :), i'm away | 
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| 21:00.14 | shiva | i just installed brlcad on my ubuntu box; what is the best way to get started? | 
| 21:00.31 | shiva | (I have a ug nx background) | 
| 21:19.54 | AchiestDragon | open a console window , cd/usr/blrcad/bin then ./mged | 
| 21:20.15 | AchiestDragon | hopeless he left | 
| 21:20.53 | AchiestDragon | may as well talk to the chan wall | 
| 21:44.03 | SuperTaz | Syx0by | 
| 21:44.16 | SuperTaz | dfku99 | 
| 21:44.23 | SuperTaz | dammit | 
| 21:44.35 | SuperTaz | too much crap on my desk | 
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