IRC log for #brlcad on 20070807

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16:11.36 poolio rawr. I broke my debian install :\
16:16.41 ``Erik heh, sweet
16:18.12 poolio I've been fixing it since like 2am.
16:18.30 poolio and then my LCD went haywire, but then magically started working again
16:18.36 poolio so I made sure to image my HD while I slept...
16:19.02 ``Erik so, uh
16:19.04 ``Erik why'd you break it?
16:19.04 ``Erik :D
16:19.08 poolio I didn't mean to
16:19.22 poolio I was trying to run something and it required an older version of gcc
16:19.31 poolio and then my whole libc was somehow corrupted
16:19.35 poolio and the apt tools wouldn't run
16:20.00 poolio so I was planning on reinstalling after I was done working this summer, but I decided to just go ahead and do it being as the system was pretty not functional
16:20.01 ``Erik neat
16:20.03 siggraph good morning peopls
16:20.06 ``Erik dpkg stuff was broken, too?
16:20.07 poolio mornin siggraph
16:20.09 poolio how's siggraph
16:20.20 poolio ``Erik: it wasn't broken, it just wouldn't fix the libc issue
16:20.28 siggraph about to listen to what is probably the best paper
16:20.31 poolio or I should say I couldn't
16:20.36 poolio ...jealous
16:20.38 poolio and which paper is that?
16:20.44 ``Erik 'ways to make bzflag suck less'? *duck* :D
16:20.54 siggraph automatic cutaway illustrations
16:21.06 ``Erik hm, sounds interesting
16:21.23 siggraph it's *impressive*
16:21.32 siggraph s/automatic/interactive/
16:21.52 poolio you don't by any chance have a link to the paper?
16:22.55 siggraph this is related: http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1276377.1276416&coll=portal&dl=ACM&CFID=15151515&CFTOKEN=6184618
16:23.21 siggraph the results made the siggraph cover
16:23.58 poolio neat
16:25.42 poolio siggraph: you ever figure out where to put the freeing of re_directory_blocks?
16:42.10 siggraph poolio: eh, I've just now touched my laptop since the last time I talked to you, a bit busy :)
16:43.11 siggraph that was a good paper.. we can implement it pretty easily too I think -- very useful
16:46.48 poolio siggraph: alrighty
16:47.22 poolio siggraph: it appears most of the memory leaks are cleared up. the program eats up all my RAM but it never exceeds it and never goes into swap. It hovers right around 990/1024MB
16:47.44 poolio the bad thing is that the tests still aren't promising. even with the two-sphere trivial case it's hardly coming close to converging
17:13.31 poolio SHIT
17:13.35 poolio My display is spazing out again
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18:10.37 poolio eeeeeeeek.
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18:36.09 ertugerata salut
19:03.00 ertugerata dans mon system iwidgets and urt exist , si j'utilse parametre --enable-build-urt=no and --enable-iwidgets-build=no configure script corrupt.
19:21.51 poolio another bug bites the dust :)
19:22.48 poolio ertugerata: qu'est-ce que vous voulez dire avec "corrupt" ?
19:23.18 ertugerata configure est termine
19:23.37 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03poolio * 10brlcad/src/librt/prep.c: free mro structure
19:24.15 poolio ertugerata: avec quoi? est-ce qu'il ya un erreur ou quelque chose?
19:24.40 poolio lire "config.log" pour plus d'information sur la configuartion
19:25.01 ertugerata on ne trove pas iwidgets and urt quand meme existe dans mon system
19:25.10 poolio ah d'accord
19:25.22 ertugerata et aussi http://rafb.net/p/RJy0VK85.html tu peut voire ça
19:25.27 poolio merci
19:26.26 poolio hmm, je ne suis pas sure, desole. je pense que c'est un probleme avec la versione de Tk que vous avez, mais je ne sais pas
19:27.25 ertugerata poolio: merci
19:27.34 poolio bon chance :)
19:28.05 ertugerata mon tk a 8.5alpha6 version
19:28.13 poolio je pense que ca c'est d'accord
19:28.28 poolio etes-vous utilisant CVS?
19:28.42 ertugerata no source 7.10
19:29.13 ertugerata CVS correct ou no ?
19:29.39 poolio je pense que CVS est meilleur
19:29.58 poolio ibot: cvs?
19:29.59 ibot it has been said that cvs is concurrent versions systems. more info here http://www.cvshome.org/.
19:29.59 ertugerata hmm
19:30.04 poolio ...
19:30.10 poolio ertugerata: un moment
19:30.26 poolio http://www.brlcad.org/build_CVS.html
19:30.52 poolio c'est possible que CVS marche meilleur pour vous
19:31.13 ertugerata merci bien
19:33.51 poolio siggraph: only bugs left are the re_directory_block and a tiny chunk for bu_semaphore, bu_semaphore_free exists but it's defined out for some reason
19:47.08 ``Erik funny, I've been working on trying to get all that tcl 'junk' to use system shtuff today :) still haven't gotten iwidgets working against it, I think the tests don't grab the right libs? O.o
19:47.37 poolio heh, so you guys are further away from release than I thought?
19:48.29 poolio ertugerata: est-ce que vous comprenez?
19:48.56 ertugerata poolio: download CVs maintenant
19:49.12 ertugerata puis je vais builder
19:49.17 poolio ertugerata: d'accord, mais ``Erik dit que CVS ne marche pas
19:49.33 poolio il est un developer et il travaille sur la meme probleme
19:49.41 ertugerata hmm
19:49.50 ertugerata merci bien
19:50.15 poolio il dit que maintenant, ce n'est pas possible d'utiliser la versione de iwidgets avec votre systeme
19:50.31 poolio il faut qu'on utilise iwidgets en BRL-CAD
19:50.45 ertugerata urt ?
19:50.47 poolio je ne sais pas avec urt
19:50.54 poolio ``Erik: you know if system urt works?
19:51.06 ``Erik yes, that's fine
19:51.45 poolio ertugerata: ^^ urt doit marcher
19:52.03 ertugerata quand source sync vith cvs ?
19:52.08 ertugerata poolio: merci
19:52.24 poolio ertugerata: hmm...un nouveua release est proche, mais je ne sais pas quand exactement
19:52.41 ``Erik URT has worked with the last many releases, back to the 7.4.0 days that I know of
19:53.11 ertugerata C'est bien. poolio
19:53.13 poolio ertugerata: URT doit marcher avec les source que vous avez (pas CVS)
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19:53.27 poolio 7.10 source doit marcher
19:53.36 poolio doit mais c'est possible qu'il ne marche pas :)
19:53.53 ertugerata poolio: j'essaye mais ne maarche pas
19:54.09 ertugerata peut-etre mon urt a des probleme ?
19:54.13 poolio qu'est-ce que c'est l'erreur avec URT?
19:54.15 poolio c'est possible
19:54.22 ``Erik yes, http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/cad/brlcad/Makefile?annotate=1.9
19:54.50 ``Erik 7.6.0 was when I can confirm that system URT has worked :)
19:55.07 poolio est-ce que vous pouvez mettre config.log sur http://rafb.net/paste ?
19:55.22 poolio ou la partie de configure avec le URT erreur
19:55.43 poolio ``Erik: fixed that bug with attr_values we were looking at the othe rday
19:55.58 ertugerata poolio: je l'ai perdu
19:56.05 ``Erik cool, what was it?
19:56.42 poolio ertugerata: je ne peux pas vous aider si je n'ai pas l'erreur, est-ce que c'est possible de ./configure encore?
19:56.46 poolio (pardonner mon franglais)
19:57.30 poolio ``Erik: it just wasn't being freed properly on rt_clean(). It just ran bu_mro_free which assumes that the mro struct was allocated in the stack, so I had to bu_free() the mro struct along with bu_mro_free()ing it
19:57.47 poolio just commit'ed it a sec ago
19:58.02 ``Erik ah, the cleaning *SHOULD* happen in prep...
19:58.10 ``Erik if I read the code right
19:58.14 ertugerata poolio: je vais reprodure dans 5 minete
19:58.28 ertugerata minute
19:59.41 poolio ertugerata: merci beaucoup
20:00.12 poolio ``Erik: hmm? what cleaning? the mro struct should be free'd in rt_prep?
20:01.34 ``Erik um, I mean the attr stuff, but I gotcha know, missed that :)
20:03.06 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/configure.ac: assume OpenBSD 4+ can deal with dots in the .so name
20:03.46 poolio ``Erik: any clue on this http://rafb.net/p/nE7AV443.html ... hard to debug :P
20:04.27 ``Erik do you have a debugging libc handy? or, um
20:04.35 poolio nope
20:04.43 ``Erik use, uh, nm to get symbol addy's and try to match those addresses to a name
20:04.48 ``Erik or objdump
20:04.53 poolio ah k
20:05.19 ``Erik assuming those aren't munged by relocation
20:05.20 ``Erik :(
20:07.23 poolio hmm it looks like it's shifted or something?
20:07.38 poolio like objdump -x address don't correspond to valgrind output
20:07.47 ``Erik ok, then it's been relocated
20:08.16 ``Erik if you can shove a debugging libc on and link (or prebind) it, then the stabs info will tell you the function name
20:08.23 ``Erik uhm
20:08.31 poolio hmm, that's a bit over my head
20:08.32 ``Erik or it'll have it avialable, I dunno if valgrind is that cool
20:08.48 poolio I think I'll let it be for now :)
20:08.53 ``Erik STABS is a format for debugging data
20:09.00 ``Erik kinda like COFF and DWARF
20:09.04 poolio k
20:09.33 ertugerata poolio: tres long
20:09.43 poolio ertugerata: je sais :)
20:09.45 ertugerata je l'envoie ici
20:10.08 poolio ou?
20:10.09 ertugerata accept svp
20:10.15 ertugerata irc
20:10.24 poolio un moment
20:12.42 poolio ertugerata: ah envoi un autre fois s'il vous plait
20:13.12 poolio ca dit que vous avez mettre invalid parameters
20:13.18 poolio envoi par e-mail :)
20:13.20 ertugerata poolio: je l'envoie
20:13.38 ertugerata mail adress ?
20:14.04 ``Erik http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/dc727094 heh, takes a long time :)
20:15.56 poolio eeek I'd imagine
20:18.18 ``Erik <-- doing that after every change to configure.ac :/ trying to get iwidgets to pass
20:18.29 poolio lame.
20:18.39 poolio what system you on?
20:18.54 ``Erik quad opteron with 8g ram, it's a pretty beefy footrest
20:19.47 ``Erik the nfs hit for my ~ is probably the big sticker
20:22.53 ``Erik hum, storm moving in, I'll have to roll up my windows soon
20:23.27 poolio Which way is it moving?
20:23.43 ``Erik east
20:23.46 ``Erik http://www.weather.com/weather/map/interactive/21005?from=36hour_map_large&zoom=7&interactiveMapLayer=radar
20:25.01 poolio hmmm
20:29.48 poolio hey ``Erik, I'm trying to help ertugerata with getting his system URT working
20:30.08 ``Erik ok?
20:30.09 poolio it fails the test in configure but when he runs the code snippet outside of configure it works fine
20:30.22 ``Erik what's config.log say about it?
20:31.11 poolio http://rafb.net/p/P7DvzS47.html
20:31.51 ``Erik the error will be up, search backwards for lrle or cc or something, or just scroll up
20:31.52 poolio HAVE_RLE_H = 1
20:32.06 poolio oh dur
20:32.07 poolio thanks
20:32.13 ``Erik the format is "try to compile, show the error, print out the program I tried o do"
20:32.13 ``Erik :)
20:33.06 poolio hmm
20:33.18 poolio so if the proper libray isn't linked then it should be added?
20:33.30 ``Erik in theory...
20:33.50 ``Erik is it not named 'librle.so'?
20:34.40 poolio there's no librle.so being linke dto
20:35.11 ``Erik interesting
20:35.45 ``Erik it should try -lutahrle, then -lrle if that fails
20:36.11 ``Erik around line 1305 of configure.ac
20:36.33 poolio http://rafb.net/p/3z6XZ659.html
20:36.42 ``Erik there's also some testing around 2350
20:37.04 poolio ah I see, he needs -L/usr/lib not just -L/usr/local/lib
20:37.35 ``Erik ld should know /usr/lib by default
20:37.35 ``Erik um
20:38.11 ``Erik on leenewx, it used to be /etc/ld.so.conf I think?
20:38.11 ``Erik it's still that on bsd *shrug*
20:39.54 poolio ``Erik: well the issue is it doesnt look like it's trying to link against rle
20:41.00 ``Erik yes, you should crack open configure in your favorite editor, go to that line and see why :D
20:41.11 poolio rawr.
20:41.49 ``Erik while I prepare to put a boot up tcl's tailpipe for vexing me :)
20:41.50 ``Erik unless, of course you have a fix for: can't read "tcl_library": no such variable
20:42.27 poolio I do. create a tcl_library variable.
20:43.04 ``Erik hehehe it's supposed to be created by Tcl_CreateInterp(), and that does get called and succeeds
20:43.19 ``Erik (and I think the variable is in tcl land, not C land)
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21:05.06 ``Erik wow, that got ugly fast
21:06.46 ``Erik yeah, brlcad is gonna crap himself when I commit this... MWAHAHAHAHA
21:09.48 poolio ruh roh.
21:10.01 poolio while brlcad is out ``Erik will play
21:10.26 ertugerata il ya une problem avec enigma en CVS ?
21:10.40 poolio avec enigma?
21:11.28 ertugerata pas problem je crois
21:11.40 poolio d'accord?
21:11.47 ertugerata autıogen.sh ne marche pas just
21:11.58 ertugerata je vais faire demain
21:12.00 poolio quelle est l'erreur?
21:12.03 poolio ah d'accord :)
21:12.33 ertugerata oui
21:12.48 ertugerata je vais dormir je suis tres fatigue
21:12.55 ertugerata a bientot
21:13.00 poolio mais oui, au revoir
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21:14.59 ``Erik hah
21:15.02 ``Erik what timing
21:15.35 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/configure.ac:
21:15.35 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: Several fixes for the Iwidgets test: link itcl, initialize tcl before itcl, and
21:15.35 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: search the 'package names' even if the 'package require' claims to have failed
21:15.35 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: (TK version issue caused require to report failure, but actually succeed).
21:21.59 poolio hehe
21:22.32 poolio it's still not too ugly
21:23.24 ``Erik the ternary to pump strtok is the only bit that might skeer newbs, I'd hope
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