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| 16:11.36 | poolio | rawr. I broke my debian install :\ |
| 16:16.41 | ``Erik | heh, sweet |
| 16:18.12 | poolio | I've been fixing it since like 2am. |
| 16:18.30 | poolio | and then my LCD went haywire, but then magically started working again |
| 16:18.36 | poolio | so I made sure to image my HD while I slept... |
| 16:19.02 | ``Erik | so, uh |
| 16:19.04 | ``Erik | why'd you break it? |
| 16:19.04 | ``Erik | :D |
| 16:19.08 | poolio | I didn't mean to |
| 16:19.22 | poolio | I was trying to run something and it required an older version of gcc |
| 16:19.31 | poolio | and then my whole libc was somehow corrupted |
| 16:19.35 | poolio | and the apt tools wouldn't run |
| 16:20.00 | poolio | so I was planning on reinstalling after I was done working this summer, but I decided to just go ahead and do it being as the system was pretty not functional |
| 16:20.01 | ``Erik | neat |
| 16:20.03 | siggraph | good morning peopls |
| 16:20.06 | ``Erik | dpkg stuff was broken, too? |
| 16:20.07 | poolio | mornin siggraph |
| 16:20.09 | poolio | how's siggraph |
| 16:20.20 | poolio | ``Erik: it wasn't broken, it just wouldn't fix the libc issue |
| 16:20.28 | siggraph | about to listen to what is probably the best paper |
| 16:20.31 | poolio | or I should say I couldn't |
| 16:20.36 | poolio | ...jealous |
| 16:20.38 | poolio | and which paper is that? |
| 16:20.44 | ``Erik | 'ways to make bzflag suck less'? *duck* :D |
| 16:20.54 | siggraph | automatic cutaway illustrations |
| 16:21.06 | ``Erik | hm, sounds interesting |
| 16:21.23 | siggraph | it's *impressive* |
| 16:21.32 | siggraph | s/automatic/interactive/ |
| 16:21.52 | poolio | you don't by any chance have a link to the paper? |
| 16:22.55 | siggraph | this is related: http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1276377.1276416&coll=portal&dl=ACM&CFID=15151515&CFTOKEN=6184618 |
| 16:23.21 | siggraph | the results made the siggraph cover |
| 16:23.58 | poolio | neat |
| 16:25.42 | poolio | siggraph: you ever figure out where to put the freeing of re_directory_blocks? |
| 16:42.10 | siggraph | poolio: eh, I've just now touched my laptop since the last time I talked to you, a bit busy :) |
| 16:43.11 | siggraph | that was a good paper.. we can implement it pretty easily too I think -- very useful |
| 16:46.48 | poolio | siggraph: alrighty |
| 16:47.22 | poolio | siggraph: it appears most of the memory leaks are cleared up. the program eats up all my RAM but it never exceeds it and never goes into swap. It hovers right around 990/1024MB |
| 16:47.44 | poolio | the bad thing is that the tests still aren't promising. even with the two-sphere trivial case it's hardly coming close to converging |
| 17:13.31 | poolio | SHIT |
| 17:13.35 | poolio | My display is spazing out again |
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| 18:10.37 | poolio | eeeeeeeek. |
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| 18:36.09 | ertugerata | salut |
| 19:03.00 | ertugerata | dans mon system iwidgets and urt exist , si j'utilse parametre --enable-build-urt=no and --enable-iwidgets-build=no configure script corrupt. |
| 19:21.51 | poolio | another bug bites the dust :) |
| 19:22.48 | poolio | ertugerata: qu'est-ce que vous voulez dire avec "corrupt" ? |
| 19:23.18 | ertugerata | configure est termine |
| 19:23.37 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03poolio * 10brlcad/src/librt/prep.c: free mro structure |
| 19:24.15 | poolio | ertugerata: avec quoi? est-ce qu'il ya un erreur ou quelque chose? |
| 19:24.40 | poolio | lire "config.log" pour plus d'information sur la configuartion |
| 19:25.01 | ertugerata | on ne trove pas iwidgets and urt quand meme existe dans mon system |
| 19:25.10 | poolio | ah d'accord |
| 19:25.22 | ertugerata | et aussi http://rafb.net/p/RJy0VK85.html tu peut voire ça |
| 19:25.27 | poolio | merci |
| 19:26.26 | poolio | hmm, je ne suis pas sure, desole. je pense que c'est un probleme avec la versione de Tk que vous avez, mais je ne sais pas |
| 19:27.25 | ertugerata | poolio: merci |
| 19:27.34 | poolio | bon chance :) |
| 19:28.05 | ertugerata | mon tk a 8.5alpha6 version |
| 19:28.13 | poolio | je pense que ca c'est d'accord |
| 19:28.28 | poolio | etes-vous utilisant CVS? |
| 19:28.42 | ertugerata | no source 7.10 |
| 19:29.13 | ertugerata | CVS correct ou no ? |
| 19:29.39 | poolio | je pense que CVS est meilleur |
| 19:29.58 | poolio | ibot: cvs? |
| 19:29.59 | ibot | it has been said that cvs is concurrent versions systems. more info here http://www.cvshome.org/. |
| 19:29.59 | ertugerata | hmm |
| 19:30.04 | poolio | ... |
| 19:30.10 | poolio | ertugerata: un moment |
| 19:30.26 | poolio | http://www.brlcad.org/build_CVS.html |
| 19:30.52 | poolio | c'est possible que CVS marche meilleur pour vous |
| 19:31.13 | ertugerata | merci bien |
| 19:33.51 | poolio | siggraph: only bugs left are the re_directory_block and a tiny chunk for bu_semaphore, bu_semaphore_free exists but it's defined out for some reason |
| 19:47.08 | ``Erik | funny, I've been working on trying to get all that tcl 'junk' to use system shtuff today :) still haven't gotten iwidgets working against it, I think the tests don't grab the right libs? O.o |
| 19:47.37 | poolio | heh, so you guys are further away from release than I thought? |
| 19:48.29 | poolio | ertugerata: est-ce que vous comprenez? |
| 19:48.56 | ertugerata | poolio: download CVs maintenant |
| 19:49.12 | ertugerata | puis je vais builder |
| 19:49.17 | poolio | ertugerata: d'accord, mais ``Erik dit que CVS ne marche pas |
| 19:49.33 | poolio | il est un developer et il travaille sur la meme probleme |
| 19:49.41 | ertugerata | hmm |
| 19:49.50 | ertugerata | merci bien |
| 19:50.15 | poolio | il dit que maintenant, ce n'est pas possible d'utiliser la versione de iwidgets avec votre systeme |
| 19:50.31 | poolio | il faut qu'on utilise iwidgets en BRL-CAD |
| 19:50.45 | ertugerata | urt ? |
| 19:50.47 | poolio | je ne sais pas avec urt |
| 19:50.54 | poolio | ``Erik: you know if system urt works? |
| 19:51.06 | ``Erik | yes, that's fine |
| 19:51.45 | poolio | ertugerata: ^^ urt doit marcher |
| 19:52.03 | ertugerata | quand source sync vith cvs ? |
| 19:52.08 | ertugerata | poolio: merci |
| 19:52.24 | poolio | ertugerata: hmm...un nouveua release est proche, mais je ne sais pas quand exactement |
| 19:52.41 | ``Erik | URT has worked with the last many releases, back to the 7.4.0 days that I know of |
| 19:53.11 | ertugerata | C'est bien. poolio |
| 19:53.13 | poolio | ertugerata: URT doit marcher avec les source que vous avez (pas CVS) |
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| 19:53.27 | poolio | 7.10 source doit marcher |
| 19:53.36 | poolio | doit mais c'est possible qu'il ne marche pas :) |
| 19:53.53 | ertugerata | poolio: j'essaye mais ne maarche pas |
| 19:54.09 | ertugerata | peut-etre mon urt a des probleme ? |
| 19:54.13 | poolio | qu'est-ce que c'est l'erreur avec URT? |
| 19:54.15 | poolio | c'est possible |
| 19:54.22 | ``Erik | yes, http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/cad/brlcad/Makefile?annotate=1.9 |
| 19:54.50 | ``Erik | 7.6.0 was when I can confirm that system URT has worked :) |
| 19:55.07 | poolio | est-ce que vous pouvez mettre config.log sur http://rafb.net/paste ? |
| 19:55.22 | poolio | ou la partie de configure avec le URT erreur |
| 19:55.43 | poolio | ``Erik: fixed that bug with attr_values we were looking at the othe rday |
| 19:55.58 | ertugerata | poolio: je l'ai perdu |
| 19:56.05 | ``Erik | cool, what was it? |
| 19:56.42 | poolio | ertugerata: je ne peux pas vous aider si je n'ai pas l'erreur, est-ce que c'est possible de ./configure encore? |
| 19:56.46 | poolio | (pardonner mon franglais) |
| 19:57.30 | poolio | ``Erik: it just wasn't being freed properly on rt_clean(). It just ran bu_mro_free which assumes that the mro struct was allocated in the stack, so I had to bu_free() the mro struct along with bu_mro_free()ing it |
| 19:57.47 | poolio | just commit'ed it a sec ago |
| 19:58.02 | ``Erik | ah, the cleaning *SHOULD* happen in prep... |
| 19:58.10 | ``Erik | if I read the code right |
| 19:58.14 | ertugerata | poolio: je vais reprodure dans 5 minete |
| 19:58.28 | ertugerata | minute |
| 19:59.41 | poolio | ertugerata: merci beaucoup |
| 20:00.12 | poolio | ``Erik: hmm? what cleaning? the mro struct should be free'd in rt_prep? |
| 20:01.34 | ``Erik | um, I mean the attr stuff, but I gotcha know, missed that :) |
| 20:03.06 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/configure.ac: assume OpenBSD 4+ can deal with dots in the .so name |
| 20:03.46 | poolio | ``Erik: any clue on this http://rafb.net/p/nE7AV443.html ... hard to debug :P |
| 20:04.27 | ``Erik | do you have a debugging libc handy? or, um |
| 20:04.35 | poolio | nope |
| 20:04.43 | ``Erik | use, uh, nm to get symbol addy's and try to match those addresses to a name |
| 20:04.48 | ``Erik | or objdump |
| 20:04.53 | poolio | ah k |
| 20:05.19 | ``Erik | assuming those aren't munged by relocation |
| 20:05.20 | ``Erik | :( |
| 20:07.23 | poolio | hmm it looks like it's shifted or something? |
| 20:07.38 | poolio | like objdump -x address don't correspond to valgrind output |
| 20:07.47 | ``Erik | ok, then it's been relocated |
| 20:08.16 | ``Erik | if you can shove a debugging libc on and link (or prebind) it, then the stabs info will tell you the function name |
| 20:08.23 | ``Erik | uhm |
| 20:08.31 | poolio | hmm, that's a bit over my head |
| 20:08.32 | ``Erik | or it'll have it avialable, I dunno if valgrind is that cool |
| 20:08.48 | poolio | I think I'll let it be for now :) |
| 20:08.53 | ``Erik | STABS is a format for debugging data |
| 20:09.00 | ``Erik | kinda like COFF and DWARF |
| 20:09.04 | poolio | k |
| 20:09.33 | ertugerata | poolio: tres long |
| 20:09.43 | poolio | ertugerata: je sais :) |
| 20:09.45 | ertugerata | je l'envoie ici |
| 20:10.08 | poolio | ou? |
| 20:10.09 | ertugerata | accept svp |
| 20:10.15 | ertugerata | irc |
| 20:10.24 | poolio | un moment |
| 20:12.42 | poolio | ertugerata: ah envoi un autre fois s'il vous plait |
| 20:13.12 | poolio | ca dit que vous avez mettre invalid parameters |
| 20:13.18 | poolio | envoi par e-mail :) |
| 20:13.20 | ertugerata | poolio: je l'envoie |
| 20:13.38 | ertugerata | mail adress ? |
| 20:14.04 | ``Erik | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/dc727094 heh, takes a long time :) |
| 20:15.56 | poolio | eeek I'd imagine |
| 20:18.18 | ``Erik | <-- doing that after every change to configure.ac :/ trying to get iwidgets to pass |
| 20:18.29 | poolio | lame. |
| 20:18.39 | poolio | what system you on? |
| 20:18.54 | ``Erik | quad opteron with 8g ram, it's a pretty beefy footrest |
| 20:19.47 | ``Erik | the nfs hit for my ~ is probably the big sticker |
| 20:22.53 | ``Erik | hum, storm moving in, I'll have to roll up my windows soon |
| 20:23.27 | poolio | Which way is it moving? |
| 20:23.43 | ``Erik | east |
| 20:23.46 | ``Erik | http://www.weather.com/weather/map/interactive/21005?from=36hour_map_large&zoom=7&interactiveMapLayer=radar |
| 20:25.01 | poolio | hmmm |
| 20:29.48 | poolio | hey ``Erik, I'm trying to help ertugerata with getting his system URT working |
| 20:30.08 | ``Erik | ok? |
| 20:30.09 | poolio | it fails the test in configure but when he runs the code snippet outside of configure it works fine |
| 20:30.22 | ``Erik | what's config.log say about it? |
| 20:31.11 | poolio | http://rafb.net/p/P7DvzS47.html |
| 20:31.51 | ``Erik | the error will be up, search backwards for lrle or cc or something, or just scroll up |
| 20:31.52 | poolio | HAVE_RLE_H = 1 |
| 20:32.06 | poolio | oh dur |
| 20:32.07 | poolio | thanks |
| 20:32.13 | ``Erik | the format is "try to compile, show the error, print out the program I tried o do" |
| 20:32.13 | ``Erik | :) |
| 20:33.06 | poolio | hmm |
| 20:33.18 | poolio | so if the proper libray isn't linked then it should be added? |
| 20:33.30 | ``Erik | in theory... |
| 20:33.50 | ``Erik | is it not named 'librle.so'? |
| 20:34.40 | poolio | there's no librle.so being linke dto |
| 20:35.11 | ``Erik | interesting |
| 20:35.45 | ``Erik | it should try -lutahrle, then -lrle if that fails |
| 20:36.11 | ``Erik | around line 1305 of configure.ac |
| 20:36.33 | poolio | http://rafb.net/p/3z6XZ659.html |
| 20:36.42 | ``Erik | there's also some testing around 2350 |
| 20:37.04 | poolio | ah I see, he needs -L/usr/lib not just -L/usr/local/lib |
| 20:37.35 | ``Erik | ld should know /usr/lib by default |
| 20:37.35 | ``Erik | um |
| 20:38.11 | ``Erik | on leenewx, it used to be /etc/ld.so.conf I think? |
| 20:38.11 | ``Erik | it's still that on bsd *shrug* |
| 20:39.54 | poolio | ``Erik: well the issue is it doesnt look like it's trying to link against rle |
| 20:41.00 | ``Erik | yes, you should crack open configure in your favorite editor, go to that line and see why :D |
| 20:41.11 | poolio | rawr. |
| 20:41.49 | ``Erik | while I prepare to put a boot up tcl's tailpipe for vexing me :) |
| 20:41.50 | ``Erik | unless, of course you have a fix for: can't read "tcl_library": no such variable |
| 20:42.27 | poolio | I do. create a tcl_library variable. |
| 20:43.04 | ``Erik | hehehe it's supposed to be created by Tcl_CreateInterp(), and that does get called and succeeds |
| 20:43.19 | ``Erik | (and I think the variable is in tcl land, not C land) |
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| 21:05.06 | ``Erik | wow, that got ugly fast |
| 21:06.46 | ``Erik | yeah, brlcad is gonna crap himself when I commit this... MWAHAHAHAHA |
| 21:09.48 | poolio | ruh roh. |
| 21:10.01 | poolio | while brlcad is out ``Erik will play |
| 21:10.26 | ertugerata | il ya une problem avec enigma en CVS ? |
| 21:10.40 | poolio | avec enigma? |
| 21:11.28 | ertugerata | pas problem je crois |
| 21:11.40 | poolio | d'accord? |
| 21:11.47 | ertugerata | autıogen.sh ne marche pas just |
| 21:11.58 | ertugerata | je vais faire demain |
| 21:12.00 | poolio | quelle est l'erreur? |
| 21:12.03 | poolio | ah d'accord :) |
| 21:12.33 | ertugerata | oui |
| 21:12.48 | ertugerata | je vais dormir je suis tres fatigue |
| 21:12.55 | ertugerata | a bientot |
| 21:13.00 | poolio | mais oui, au revoir |
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| 21:14.59 | ``Erik | hah |
| 21:15.02 | ``Erik | what timing |
| 21:15.35 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/configure.ac: |
| 21:15.35 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: Several fixes for the Iwidgets test: link itcl, initialize tcl before itcl, and |
| 21:15.35 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: search the 'package names' even if the 'package require' claims to have failed |
| 21:15.35 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: (TK version issue caused require to report failure, but actually succeed). |
| 21:21.59 | poolio | hehe |
| 21:22.32 | poolio | it's still not too ugly |
| 21:23.24 | ``Erik | the ternary to pump strtok is the only bit that might skeer newbs, I'd hope |
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