IRC log for #brlcad on 20070811

00:19.02 dtidrow btw, Judge Kimball has declared that Novell owns UNIX....
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05:25.23 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libfb/if_ogl.c: there is just one IF_ per interface -- if you don't want the ogl interface, then don't define IF_OGL .. this has nothing to do with IF_WGL
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06:40.50 jpjacobs Hi! is there someone actually maintaining the .deb of BRL-CAD?
06:44.40 brlcad on and off
06:44.46 brlcad so, no not really :)
06:45.06 MinuteElectron brlcad: Hi,
06:45.10 brlcad hey MinuteElectron
06:45.39 MinuteElectron See my message above :)
06:45.40 brlcad I'm not home just yet to attend to a big laundry list of things -- including ldap unfortunately, but have seen some of the backlog
06:46.00 MinuteElectron oh ok
06:46.11 brlcad ldap isn't going to be integrated with the "other projects" if you mean bzflag's ldap plans
06:46.12 MinuteElectron dw
06:46.26 brlcad only the other brl-cad services, the four or so main sections
06:46.34 MinuteElectron brlcad: No, I was just wondering whether you had had any success with it yet.
06:47.03 brlcad I successfully got it installed, and successfully verified that it installed correctly :)
06:47.11 MinuteElectron Ahh, OK.
06:47.23 MinuteElectron Thanks for the info.
06:47.29 brlcad proper configuration is going to be a learning experience for me
06:47.36 MinuteElectron Same here.
06:47.41 brlcad feel free to give it a try yourself if you want to play with it
06:47.49 brlcad you can educate me later :)
06:47.59 MinuteElectron :) ok, I will try.
06:47.59 brlcad otherwise, it's near the top of my list when I get back
06:48.20 MinuteElectron cool
06:48.23 brlcad let me know if you need access or something, but I think you should be set
06:48.31 MinuteElectron yep
06:49.03 MinuteElectron brlcad: Where was it installed to again?
06:49.03 brlcad and .htaccess files should be good now
06:49.15 brlcad i did verify that was working now
06:49.52 brlcad which coincidentally broke about a half-dozen other resident sites on the server that had .htaccess files that weren't set up right =)
06:50.24 MinuteElectron heh
06:53.15 MinuteElectron Yay! RewriteRules in .htacces work.
06:53.26 MinuteElectron Baffles me why they didn't in httpd.conf
06:56.46 MinuteElectron brlcad: Please can you remind me of the path to the Apache conf files and the LDAP conf files.
08:10.08 MinuteElectron brlcad: Does there currently exist somewhere I can get all of the quotes?
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12:11.17 ``Erik MinuteElectron: /usr/local/etc/{apache22,openldap}/
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12:14.49 MinuteElectron ``Erik: thanks.
14:21.28 LinuxMafia hi
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15:04.42 LinuxMafia hi brlcad
15:04.51 LinuxMafia hi ``Erik
15:05.19 LinuxMafia is there any way to combine command window and gui window
15:05.35 LinuxMafia like command window apear at bottom
15:11.12 louipc I can kind of make it look like that with my window manager
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16:00.56 LinuxMafia louipc, sorry i was not here , what window manager?
16:01.24 louipc I use openbox
16:02.17 louipc I can remove window decorations hehe looks pretty neat
16:02.50 LinuxMafia louipc, i have it i guess but i need something like kde
16:03.03 louipc why's that?
16:03.24 LinuxMafia kde
16:03.34 LinuxMafia is another window manager
16:03.41 louipc well I guess you need something to save window size, position, dimension
16:03.58 louipc kde is a full desktop environment
16:04.03 LinuxMafia louipc, no no i really want to combine them
16:04.06 LinuxMafia louipc, yes
16:04.46 louipc I'm not a fan of those heh, so I just use a simple window manager
16:05.20 LinuxMafia louipc, yeah i am using for my home pc
16:05.34 LinuxMafia i know , if i work somewhere i dont need kde
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21:00.10 Laniakea ``Erik: OpenBSD... any success?
21:13.31 Laniakea Good that you still have those older 7.8.4 etc. files on the sourceforge site so that people who cannot use 7.10.0 can download these.
21:13.34 Laniakea (like me)
21:16.48 louipc you can download really old versions can't you?
21:18.12 ``Erik not yet, karel, but I committed to configure.ac something that I *THINK* might help
21:36.40 Laniakea ``Erik: so I should try CVS HEAD again and maybe it will work?
21:39.34 ``Erik if ya want *shrug* it's a guess on my part, though
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21:56.12 ``Erik aren't we all?
21:57.20 poolio I have a bug where fitness exceeds what is the theoretical maximum, and it takes something like an hour to reproduce ... so I'm having a hard time debugging
21:59.05 ``Erik that's where debuggers come in really handy :)
21:59.14 ``Erik put a conditonal watch on the fitness value
21:59.22 ``Erik then explore the program
22:01.23 poolio ``Erik: well...if it only shows itself after one hour without a debugger...how long is it goign to take with a debugger?
22:02.07 ``Erik um
22:02.22 ``Erik about the same with an extra 'if' when you evaluate fitness?
22:02.41 ``Erik and you only do it once... then you learn what's going on and fix it... no need to run it over and over and over
22:02.43 ``Erik and over
22:02.44 ``Erik and
22:02.44 ``Erik over
22:02.51 poolio wait, what exactly are you saying to do?
22:03.49 ``Erik run gdb and type "help condition"?
22:03.56 poolio thanks
22:06.36 ``Erik when the expression returns true, the debugger will stop the program and give you a prompt... then you can explore all the variables in the scope, the stack, wlak up frames and look at the variables in all their scopes, evaluate functions right there, ...
22:07.04 poolio yeah, I need to learn more about debugging. thanks ``Erik
22:07.17 ``Erik might be worth making a 'toy' program to debug to figure out how to use it
22:15.55 MinuteElectron Damn LDAP, my puny mind can't take it.
22:16.33 ``Erik heh
22:16.38 ``Erik pheer the x509
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23:51.29 poolio ``Erik: I'm still waiting on gdb to hit the breakpoint :\

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