IRC log for #brlcad on 20070816

03:19.43 *** join/#brlcad PrezKennedy (n=Matt@74.86.45.130)
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06:12.38 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: remove the old enable arg for proe since the with arg is used instead
06:17.38 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/HACKING: version numbers are no longer in configure.ac, they're in the version files in include/conf now
06:37.30 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/HACKING: sweet blessed jeebus. don't have to update config_win.h any more since it seems to be pulling it from the builds system now. I think daniel must be to thank for that goodness
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07:44.54 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/liboptical/sh_light.c: (log message trimmed)
07:44.54 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: aha, finally realized what is going awry... since the samples were previously
07:44.54 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: already allocated to the hard-coded max, the sample generator just used the
07:44.54 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: slots as needed, keeping track of them with lt_pt_count as new ones were needed.
07:44.54 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: what that means, though, is that we need to ensure an allocation before ALL of
07:44.57 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: the places that lt_pt_count is incremented since that is when we need/make a new
07:44.59 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: point. this (finally) fixes the crashes I was seeing when multiple shadow rays
07:45.14 ewilhelm brlcad: botsnack :-D
07:45.24 brlcad :-)
07:51.28 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: support infinite # of shadow rays in the raytracers
11:30.13 *** join/#brlcad AchiestDragon_ (n=david@whipy.demon.co.uk)
13:12.03 ``Erik coming in today, brlcad?
13:13.10 ``Erik (and a thousand shadow rays? non-point light source? a thousand light sources? O.o)
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15:14.33 ``Erik hum, no brlcad and no poolio
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15:26.15 ``Erik pewlioz
15:26.35 ``Erik ya in the aberdeen area?
15:32.10 poolio mornin'
15:32.28 poolio errr, I'm in baltimore county. really close to the north west corner of baltimore city, about 1 hr away
15:46.32 poolio ``Erik: I'd take it you're in the aberdeen area :)
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17:10.36 ``Erik poolio: yes, was seeing if you'd be interested on coming up for lunch with some of "the gang", but it's too late now :D
17:10.39 ``Erik <-- pats his buddha belly
17:11.11 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/liboptical/sh_light.c: the number of light sample points needs to be considerably bigger than the number of shadow rays otherwise we end up with sample patterns in the shadow.
17:12.40 poolio ``Erik: No time :( I'm off to do shopping.
17:12.49 poolio However, I just got my new LCD, had to test it out
17:13.01 poolio It's tiny compared to what you guys have
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17:55.47 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/TODO: bezier extrusions need to be optimized, really should not be performing dynamic memory allocations in the root solver
17:56.02 dtidrow eek
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18:27.40 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/other/tk/unix/.cvsignore: ignore the generated tclstub export file
18:41.38 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/mged/points/points_scan.l: note that we could have used YY_NO_UNPUT instead of the hack
19:25.17 brlcad pretty awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdk5m5IT8NY
19:39.06 *** join/#brlcad ertugerata (n=Ertugrul@88.230.243.86)
19:39.16 ertugerata salut
19:39.57 brlcad salut
19:40.14 ertugerata il ya une problem dans mon system, je compile brlcad in cvs, configure ne trouve pas TCL and TK
19:40.30 ertugerata quand meme ils sont exist
19:53.51 ``Erik vous avez tcl.h et tk.h? (excuse, http://babelfish.altavista.com/rt)
19:54.50 ertugerata ``Erik: /usr/include
19:54.53 ``Erik (brlcad, feeling less ill?)
19:55.15 ``Erik les deux version 8.5 ?
19:55.19 ertugerata ``Erik: yes
19:55.50 brlcad yeah, much better but now the week is up and I'm in release mode
19:56.20 ``Erik ./configure 2>&1 | tee configure.out ; less configure.out ...
19:56.22 ``Erik checking for Tcl_Main in -ltcl85... yes
19:56.32 ``Erik checking tcl.h usability... yes
19:56.32 ``Erik checking tcl.h presence... yes
19:56.32 ``Erik checking for tcl.h... yes
19:59.05 ``Erik brlcad: I saw some corniness in distcheck when I was verifying removal of dm_old, but they weren't related to dm_old so I commited... things like, uh, includes/CONF or something
19:59.30 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/ (ChangeLog NEWS TODO include/conf/PATCH): performing the 7.10.2 release, bump the revisions and tag it as rel-7-10-2
19:59.53 ``Erik also got things squared up so the only 'other' package I used on fbsd was tkImg :) (and it WORKED!)
19:59.57 brlcad the version numbers are in include/conf now, in individual files
20:00.11 brlcad wow, seriously
20:00.14 brlcad that's awesome
20:00.28 brlcad I would have expected some incrtcl woes still
20:00.30 ``Erik I had to hack some stuff in ports to make incr and blt use 85, but *shrug*
20:00.50 brlcad you have anything that needs to be committed before I tag it?
20:00.53 ``Erik hehehe that's what my configure.ac commits addressed... getting incr to detect
20:00.57 ``Erik lemme look
20:01.32 brlcad i know of a few minor build issues, but .. they're minor and shouldn't hold things up
20:03.14 ``Erik I have an untested one in sig, I started going through and changing the big strcmp ifelse stuff to getopt... but that can wait for the next one *shrug*
20:03.18 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/rt/view.c: list light model option in -h
20:03.39 ``Erik otherwise, I have nothing release-worthy to commit.
20:03.42 brlcad aiight
20:03.51 ``Erik need to fix the photon mapping stuff, still, but that *shrug* can wait
20:04.51 brlcad yeah, there's even some important fixes I need to put in for the s2 folks, but it'll have to wait
20:04.58 ``Erik ertugerata: configure accompli? tcl rapports "yes"?
20:05.22 brlcad this is effectively the july release a day late
20:05.42 ``Erik is the beaurocracy still preventing a regular monthly cycle?
20:05.42 brlcad shooting 256 shadow rays sure is expensive :)
20:05.51 ertugerata ``Erik: j'esaie une fois de plus
20:06.08 brlcad time constraints is all that's really preventing regular releases
20:07.05 brlcad and involvement, reliable testing/build framework
20:07.13 ``Erik heh, mostly the platform build test? a "big honking button" is needed for that
20:07.20 brlcad yep
20:07.56 brlcad I'd even auto-post the tarballs if the platform tests were more automated
20:08.27 ``Erik it's too bad sf's compile farm went away. :(
20:08.34 brlcad just a matter of some minor scripting and a low-maintenance interface, but it usually falls under the bar to other development
20:08.47 ``Erik *nod*
20:09.10 ``Erik but I'd imagine if you looked at the time to write it vs the time to do it by hand, it'd quickly pay for itself
20:09.41 brlcad the stuff the s2 folks are doing is a start, but that setup is definitely not hands-off and it's rather error prone/sensitive to anything changing that it's a burden in itself
20:10.58 brlcad it's definitely worth it to build the dists automatically, that's why I started all the build system hooks for each of the platforms
20:11.16 brlcad all the various sh/make_*.sh scripts to build distributions
20:12.11 brlcad what seems to really bite us the most lately is stuff missing from the dists -- there really needs to be a 'distcheckfiles' or something that makes sure everything in a checkout is in the source dist
20:12.53 ``Erik I noticed that the 'real' checkout had to be configured with --enable-almost-everything or something to get distcheck to behave sorta
20:12.57 brlcad could probably do it with some recursive rule added to misc/Makefile.defs, have it scan all the various file lists
20:13.32 brlcad (fyi, --enable-all is the shorthand for that)
20:14.02 ``Erik meh, highlight and middle click is the shortcut I use for that
20:14.03 ``Erik :)
20:19.44 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/ (NEWS TODO README include/conf/PATCH): post commit, bump the version numbers and plan for the next release (expecting another patch release)
20:22.59 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/ (NEWS AUTHORS): time to announce and credit beset, Ben's Evolutionary Shape Extraction Tool by Ben Poole
20:29.32 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/TODO: lay out the next two release iterations (both probably still patch releases)
20:37.33 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/ (5 files in 2 dirs): remove the op-bw utility, an obsolete tool written to read images from an Optronics scanner into a bw. tool can be removed when they are no longer in use and impose a burden to maintain. (sorry Phil)
20:37.51 ``Erik it'll live on in the repo
20:41.28 ``Erik heh
20:42.19 brlcad well it's still needed for the brep work
20:42.27 brlcad it's a matter of where/how
20:43.18 brlcad the opennurbs folks pulled out all of the routines that actually did analytic processing, anything that didn't have to do with their file format
20:43.32 brlcad which of coruse means they ripped out everything we need to implement
20:44.09 brlcad so as jason was implementing it, he kept it separate and it still is, but the more that work proceeds (and it presumably is going to) the more it probably deserves to be an opennurbs enhancement directly
20:44.45 ``Erik 10km swims... sheesh
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20:47.23 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/TODO: put off opennurbs integration for now, still questionable whether it really needs to be integrated aside from being stagnated at the moment
21:13.55 ``Erik "monosfritos"
21:40.09 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/ (NEWS src/nirt/parse_fmt.c):
21:40.09 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: increased output precision from nirt/query_ray to 8 digits after the decimal.
21:40.09 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: was previously 2 to 4 digits depending on the field, which was particularly
21:40.09 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: detrimental for reproducing shots using the limited az el values or for seeing
21:40.09 CIA-27 BRL-CAD: what floating point fuzz is relevant on the origin and shot direction.
22:10.28 brlcad aww, seems like sf only allows one upload at a time now
22:13.15 poolio brlcad: Howdy :) Thanks for crediting me, but I hope beset isn't in the release...
22:13.40 brlcad note the section
22:14.02 poolio I really can't, my pupils are dilated and it's really hard to read anything on my computer, sorry.
22:14.14 poolio I have to squint :)
22:14.36 brlcad ./topic BRL-CAD Open Source Solid Modeling || http://brlcad.org || http://sf.net/projects/brlcad || Release 7.10.2 is posted! (Aug 16th) || for Ken: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help%3ATemplates#Using_parameters_in_templates
22:14.43 brlcad 7.10.2 is being posted now
22:14.53 brlcad that's in the release notes for 7.10.4 :)
22:15.01 poolio Heh! Sweetness. Congratulations!
22:15.06 brlcad or 7.12.0, depending on how must goes in
22:16.24 brlcad yeah, that's been too long coming
22:16.33 brlcad missed three scheduled release months
22:57.23 ``Erik hum, guess I get to make a port then :)
22:57.35 ``Erik and NOW I can break the tree horribly with my half-assed hacks :D
22:58.40 ``Erik (I'd really like to see a libtk test in configure.ac that does NOT require a valid X server running and appropriate display set.. I'd imagine i'd be necessary for automated build/testing as well... *cough*)
22:58.54 ``Erik but now it's world of warcraft time.
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23:56.18 brlcad woot, http://my.brlcad.org/~sean/shadows_by_example.mov

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