| 00:06.09 | starseeker | Huh - it got the compilation time right this time. |
| 00:20.48 | starseeker | GOT IT |
| 00:20.54 | starseeker | I know why it's messing up. |
| 00:21.44 | starseeker | In the portage ebuild sytem, ${S} is set to the source directory - in this case, /var/tmp/portage/sci-misc/brlcad-7.10.2/work/brlcad-7.10.2 |
| 00:22.57 | starseeker | Unfortunately, src/other/tcl/unix/installManPage is also using $S |
| 00:23.28 | starseeker | test -z "$S" && S="$DIR/" |
| 00:24.00 | starseeker | MANPAGE=$1 |
| 00:24.00 | starseeker | echo $MANPAGE |
| 00:24.00 | starseeker | DIR=$2 |
| 00:24.00 | starseeker | echo $DIR |
| 00:24.00 | starseeker | test -z "$S" && S="$DIR/" |
| 00:24.00 | starseeker | echo $S |
| 00:24.11 | starseeker | /var/tmp/portage/sci-misc/brlcad-7.10.2/work/brlcad-7.10.2/src/other/tcl/unix/../doc/CrtCommand.3 |
| 00:24.11 | starseeker | /var/tmp/portage/sci-misc/brlcad-7.10.2/image//usr/share/man/man3 |
| 00:24.11 | starseeker | /var/tmp/portage/sci-misc/brlcad-7.10.2/work/brlcad-7.10.2 |
| 00:25.00 | starseeker | Because we didn't supply an -s option to the script, $S should be empty and $DIR/ should be in $S. Thanks to portage however, $S is not empty. |
| 00:34.05 | starseeker | DOH - I should have checked the patches in the latest ebuild. Nice to know I had the right idea, but someone already found it. |
| 00:35.22 | brlcad | yeah, that's how auto works -- and the --enable-all option effectively says "just use only internal versions" |
| 00:36.02 | brlcad | for the ebuild, you'd probably want to --disable-[insert various here] or even --disable all and make them all ebuild deps |
| 00:37.04 | starseeker | That's the "purist" approach that people have favored, but in a case where brlcad would succeed if it used its internal versions it would be a shame to have it die |
| 00:37.09 | brlcad | otherwise it should also work if you make them all deps, and just let auto do what it does, it should turn them all off if it detects the installed deps correctly, which it really should |
| 00:38.13 | starseeker | That's an idea. I just hate to compile tk8.4 when I know it won't do it ;-) |
| 00:40.02 | brlcad | the build is consistent, if it compiles a dep then it's going to link against it and install it |
| 00:40.34 | starseeker | OK. So the presence of an 8.4 version won't bother it if the deps have gentoo install it? |
| 00:41.34 | brlcad | well tk8.4 as a dep would be wrong :) |
| 00:42.06 | starseeker | If I tell it 8.5 it will die complaining about masked packages |
| 00:42.11 | starseeker | or unfound deps |
| 00:42.12 | brlcad | and no, it wouldn't bother it -- it'd just fail the tk usability test and build the 8.5a6 version |
| 00:42.22 | starseeker | which would be correct. OK. |
| 00:42.39 | brlcad | yeah, like I said .. 8.5 is a pita until it goes final |
| 00:42.45 | brlcad | which is "any day now" |
| 00:42.51 | starseeker | hehe |
| 00:42.52 | brlcad | though it's been that way for weeks |
| 00:42.56 | brlcad | s/weeks/months/ |
| 00:43.03 | starseeker | Like watching the stix fonts |
| 00:43.17 | starseeker | They were "almost done" back in April, if memory serves |
| 00:44.34 | brlcad | yeah, issues came up in a5 though, so now a6 |
| 00:44.42 | brlcad | haven't heard if a6 had any major issues |
| 00:46.05 | starseeker | Collision with portage ;-) |
| 00:48.26 | ``Erik | :D |
| 00:49.29 | brlcad | not entirely fair as they overlapped .5 releases with new .4 releases for several of those years :) |
| 00:50.16 | ``Erik | hehehe true... :D |
| 00:50.27 | brlcad | more akin to 2.1 kernel and 2.0 development, by that same metric kernel is horribly slow cycles |
| 00:50.59 | ``Erik | leenewx kernel development is awfully disorganized |
| 00:51.30 | ``Erik | fbsd runs 3 release trees right now with a pretty decent cycle *shrug* |
| 00:52.10 | starseeker | I guess the next step for ebuild development is to convince the devs to allow the "auto" setting to optionally build the internal versions, and let brlcad have the /usr/brlcad directory with symlinks for some of the key binaries. |
| 02:05.50 | louipc | yeah it's a tough case to get all src/other/ pkgs seperate from brlcad, well I've had trouble with the itcl/itk, iwidgets |
| 02:06.52 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: improved photon map irradiance progress reporting |
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| 08:48.30 | brlcad | heh, speaking of tcl/tk release schedules, it looks like they're finally leaving alpha |
| 08:48.52 | brlcad | they just tagged 8.5b1 |
| 08:49.11 | brlcad | not yet posted |
| 08:49.18 | Laniakea | brlcad: do you think it would be possible to adjust the 10.0 brlcad to work also on OpenBSD 4.0? (4.1 is the latest) |
| 08:49.25 | Laniakea | there's some problem with the tcl/tk |
| 08:49.31 | Laniakea | or itcl or something like that |
| 08:50.23 | brlcad | Laniakea: if you give me a shell, I can see if I can sort that build out -- otherwise I can't reproduce it and from what I read between you and erik, he couldn't either |
| 08:50.55 | Laniakea | brlcad: do you need a rootshell? |
| 08:51.01 | brlcad | nope |
| 08:51.21 | Laniakea | But you need X Server connection? |
| 08:51.52 | brlcad | not really |
| 08:51.56 | Laniakea | I am currently behind a NAT |
| 08:52.09 | Laniakea | but I could give you shell when I get my cable modem delivered |
| 08:52.16 | brlcad | i just need a shell connection, presuming you already have compilation tools installed |
| 08:52.32 | Laniakea | yes already installed |
| 08:52.40 | brlcad | i can do everything I need over ssh |
| 08:52.42 | Laniakea | we made it to compile, but mged didn't start up |
| 08:52.50 | Laniakea | you can use ssh -Y if you need X connection |
| 08:53.03 | Laniakea | do you have IPv6? |
| 08:53.08 | brlcad | which is why I said I can do everything I need over ssh ;) |
| 08:53.25 | Laniakea | that's what I meant so I make sure it's allowed in sshd config |
| 08:53.42 | brlcad | yeah |
| 08:53.54 | Laniakea | I should just make sure my gay porn collections are not visible so you cannot figure out I am gay and then threaten me to tell my mother, lol :) |
| 08:54.01 | brlcad | cvs client would help too |
| 08:54.07 | Laniakea | I have both cvs and svn |
| 08:54.18 | Laniakea | Do you have IPv6? |
| 08:54.21 | brlcad | i don't have time to care about your pr0n collections |
| 08:54.23 | brlcad | yeah |
| 08:54.32 | Laniakea | which broker? |
| 08:54.37 | Laniakea | Or do you have real ipv6? |
| 08:54.44 | brlcad | real |
| 08:55.28 | brlcad | not sure it's configured end to end appropriately, but it's good on my end |
| 08:55.50 | brlcad | though not sure why that should matter .. |
| 08:56.08 | Laniakea | Cause I could try to figure out ipv6 connection then you could connect already today |
| 08:56.15 | Laniakea | since I don't have Internet at home only at work |
| 08:56.26 | Laniakea | and I cannot ask for a tunnel since that's not for work |
| 09:02.28 | brlcad | well, whatever works for you -- if you get it to the point that I can "ssh -v user@somehostofyours" I can take it from there, otherwise I'll look at the build log but it really is hard (i.e. exceptionally time consuming) to go back and forth on build failures, tweak settings, rebuild, test, repeat, etc |
| 09:02.56 | Laniakea | yes ssh is better |
| 09:03.00 | Laniakea | I don't have problem with ssh |
| 09:03.02 | brlcad | i'll also do the latter, but i get impatient |
| 10:05.09 | Laniakea | Do you think it would be possible to use fluid bearings in skateboard instead of ball bearings? |
| 13:34.40 | ``Erik | itcl/itk and iwidgets work with tcl85, but don't officially support it (e.g. 'make test' fails due to changes in error message phrasing) |
| 13:39.34 | ``Erik | shoot, that upgrade broke my parallels install and I left the cd at home :/ |
| 14:01.40 | ``Erik | http://www.xkcd.com/ |
| 14:01.41 | ``Erik | heh |
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| 14:49.47 | brlcad | hm, what init.d item handles rpc under linux? |
| 14:51.49 | brlcad | getting "Cannot register service: RPC: Unable to receive; errno = Connection refused" |
| 14:55.07 | ``Erik | ummmmm portmap? |
| 14:55.08 | brlcad | there it be, portmapper |
| 14:55.21 | brlcad | never can remember that thing |
| 14:55.26 | ``Erik | and different linux breeds use different names :( |
| 14:55.32 | brlcad | that's why |
| 14:56.57 | ``Erik | http://weblogs.java.net/blog/kirillcool/archive/2005/02/how_to_create_y.html |
| 14:56.59 | ``Erik | O.o |
| 14:57.04 | ``Erik | java, but an amusing notion |
| 15:54.51 | minute | Basic MediaWiki brlcad skin up, but the site doesn't actually do anything when it is switched on. I have a headache and need to get away from this for a couple of hours. Be back then with more ideas etc. |
| 16:07.59 | Maloeran | So Erik, you really deserted us the Efnet #opengl old timers in #siggraph? :) |
| 16:09.17 | Maloeran | Even if we probably should have stayed in #opengl with our off-topic discussions long ago |
| 16:23.10 | ``Erik | um |
| 16:23.18 | ``Erik | I've been banned from siggraph for quite a while |
| 16:23.24 | ``Erik | and have tried to get people to unban me O.o |
| 16:24.28 | ``Erik | pre-marraige celebration? woohoo, body shots off of strippers! |
| 16:42.22 | Maloeran | No, not that kind of celebration :). It would have been the real marriage but we under-estimated the delays involved in the paperwork and bureaucracy |
| 16:47.46 | Maloeran | There doesn't seem to be any ban in #siggraph, I think it's unlikely that any bot would have got you on auto-ban |
| 18:03.49 | ``Erik | :D |
| 21:45.43 | ``Erik | wow debs are a royal pain to make. |
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