IRC log for #brlcad on 20070913

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13:48.53 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
13:48.53 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: automake has a braindead auto-inclusion of ChangeLog files that is causing make
13:48.53 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: distcheck to fail when trying to include the debian 'changelog' file. avoid the
13:48.53 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: whole issue and make the file more generalized (auto-sets the version and time
13:48.53 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: now) by turning it into an autoconf template instead.
14:17.08 ``Erik behh
14:17.15 ``Erik I tried that and it puked on 'make deb'
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15:35.40 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/AUTHORS: o davisson
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16:41.23 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/sh/make_deb.sh: need devscripts, not debmake
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17:06.42 MinuteElectron brlcad: I am having trouble connecting to your server.
17:07.44 MinuteElectron Unable to connect via SSH or HTTP. Also all my processes appear to have been killed since I am not on IRC although I was when went to bed last night.
17:13.18 ``Erik <-- just logged in with no issue
17:14.25 ``Erik and you logged out at 9:41 server time
17:14.32 ``Erik er, wait,s orry
17:14.37 ``Erik 17;56
17:14.46 ``Erik est
17:18.03 MinuteElectron That is about 22:56 my time.
17:18.26 MinuteElectron Odd, that is about when I did leave. But I remember typing '/sleep' not '/quit'.
17:19.17 MinuteElectron And now I can't connect at all which is really queer.
17:21.44 MinuteElectron How queer.
17:24.43 louipc http://www.warwickworldwide.com/img/news/large/queer%20redone.jpg
17:26.57 MinuteElectron XD
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19:16.18 MinuteElectron brlcad: Any ideas on my problem?
19:18.23 MinuteElectron Same error as last time I believe, connection timed out.
19:29.15 MinuteElectron Ok, so I connected to it using a friends server.
19:29.21 MinuteElectron Apparently my screen session is Dead.
19:29.33 brlcad yes, screens are gone
19:29.35 MinuteElectron Although I don't know what that means it probably means it is unrecoverable.
19:29.46 MinuteElectron brlcad: What happend?
19:29.52 brlcad the machine had scheduled maintenance last night, was rebooted to install some new hardware
19:30.04 MinuteElectron Did it get 500 days uptime.
19:30.10 MinuteElectron I saw 499 at last check.
19:31.07 MinuteElectron brlcad: How does screen even know that a session existed if the machine was rebooted?
19:31.10 ``Erik and DOH, reboot without knowing it, I lost game time :(
19:31.15 brlcad MinuteElectron: uptime was lost :( *sniff*
19:31.27 brlcad i think it got past 500, but don't know how far
19:31.34 MinuteElectron Cool.
19:31.36 brlcad have to check some logs
19:31.50 ``Erik not using uptimed?
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19:32.08 ``Erik sysutils/uptimed
19:42.21 brlcad i think you installed uptimed
19:43.17 ``Erik uprecords says...
19:43.21 ``Erik <PROTECTED>
19:45.47 brlcad awwww
19:45.50 brlcad bitch
19:47.35 ``Erik heh, the installed version does funny things with that kernel O.o try 'uprecords -b' (boot ordered instead of uptime ordered)
19:57.42 ``Erik hummmm, had to do some hackery to get ucbcc working :/ (was puking on its own headers with the -Xc flag)
20:03.24 ``Erik and more than just the tree walk in clone, hum
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20:35.00 minute ``Erik: What is up with the boot record in the future?
20:36.26 ``Erik exactly! :D
20:38.13 ``Erik (kernel boot time vs program insantiation, I would guess... and it's favoring kernel?)
20:39.28 MinuteElectron 0 5 499 days, 10:08:25 | FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE Mon May 1 12:54:52 2006
20:39.29 MinuteElectron -> 6 0 days, 17:27:30 | FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE Wed Sep 12 23:06:42 2007
20:39.30 MinuteElectron <PROTECTED>
20:39.39 MinuteElectron How weird.
20:40.57 MinuteElectron Also note the difference between 17:24:30 and 17:26:34 is greater than the difference between 23:07:10 and 23:06:42.
21:10.02 louipc muhaha I have more uptime now
21:10.57 brlcad hehe
21:12.03 louipc hey brlcad did you say something about moving the project from CVS before?
21:13.13 brlcad yes
21:13.19 brlcad we're moving to svn before the end of the year
21:13.26 louipc ah ok
21:13.30 brlcad probably in oct/nov
21:14.05 louipc I've been using git recently. It's pretty sweet
21:15.32 Maloeran Just wondering, have there been any updates on Archer? Mark would like me to work on it at some point in the future, but it was quite broken on Linux last I tried
21:15.38 louipc wasup
21:18.26 Maloeran How's life lately, louipc? I sure went through a couple big changes here
21:18.49 louipc Maloeran: doesn't look like archer's been updated I haven't updated for a long time
21:19.27 louipc not bad I'm coding some web interface stuff to host build files for my distro
21:19.46 louipc how about you? what kind of changes?
21:20.23 Maloeran Erik, they would like me to integrate RF into Archer to replace librt, but amusingly, I can't even run the current software
21:20.42 Maloeran Well louipc... For example, my future wife ( celebration on October 13th ) and my mother will be meeting in 26 hours
21:20.44 ``Erik erm, does archer even fire rays? heh, I thought it was more about libwdb :)
21:21.00 louipc wow congrats
21:21.12 Maloeran It does raytracing rendering, but they may want to use RF for interactive visualization and editing too
21:22.11 Maloeran And from Siggraph, Disney Studios is apparently interested in some sort of parternship to integrate the software into some fancy photorealistic rendering
21:24.27 louipc oh is that with the real-time stuff you were doing?
21:24.51 Maloeran Yes, I guess it could cut their rendering time quite a bit
21:24.58 louipc sweet
21:25.20 ``Erik cut rendering time or cut compute farm size..
21:25.41 ``Erik power bill for those things must suck, dumping power to heat the room, and more power to cool it... :D
21:26.03 Maloeran It would be nice for artists to obtain quicker results, rather than wait constantly for the frames to pop up
21:26.27 ``Erik that's what low quality frames are for :D
21:27.26 Maloeran Eh, still unhappy with your job over there?
21:27.41 ``Erik with a certain element or two, yes
21:29.02 Maloeran Survice may not like me too much lately... I gravely suffer from the symptoms of a phenethylamine neurotransmitter imbalance, such as insomnia, lack of concentration, loss of emotional control
21:29.22 ``Erik time to back off the crack, dude
21:30.27 Maloeran Tsk. A surge in phenethylamine is a symptom of falling in love, your biochemistry is rusty :)
21:31.37 ``Erik heh
21:31.42 ``Erik <-- doesn't do biochemistry
21:32.29 Maloeran I read abundantely on the topic, trying desperately to understand the situation and cure the condition so I could focus on work. It wasn't of much help
21:33.18 ``Erik beer. *grunt*.
21:33.39 louipc or whiskey
21:33.51 ``Erik whoa, hey now, learn to walk before ya run! :D
21:34.01 ``Erik mmmm whiskey....
21:34.15 ``Erik they were out of the kind I like last time I went to the package store, I'm still kinda sad about that...
21:34.20 ``Erik (bushmills)
21:34.33 ``Erik tequila shots?
21:34.43 Maloeran I'm frightened how easily she can compromise my principles
21:34.44 louipc you know why canadian money is coloured? So you can tell a 5 from a 20 when you're shitfaced at the bar
21:35.08 Maloeran Erik, some cocktail and fancy wine
21:35.50 Maloeran I sure had a lot of trouble solving the Rubik's cube she gave me as wedding gift afterwards
21:35.58 ``Erik I thought it was because most of it comes from 'monopoly' boxes
21:36.05 ``Erik "fancy wine"?
21:36.16 ``Erik "some cocktail"?
21:36.32 Maloeran I know absolutely nothing of these things :)
21:36.40 louipc dom perignon and some port
21:36.47 ``Erik irish carbomb and thunderbird? O.o
21:37.19 Maloeran Some wine at 180$ the bottle in any case, it was supposedly great according to the people present. I found the taste way too... aggressive
21:37.28 ``Erik but 180... canadian...
21:37.30 louipc oh damn
21:37.35 ``Erik so that's, like
21:37.39 ``Erik a buck fifty? thunderbird...
21:37.41 Maloeran That's like 175USD these days, Erik :)
21:37.43 louipc 179 american
21:37.45 louipc :D
21:37.46 ``Erik I know :(
21:37.53 ``Erik *sigh* stupid fucking fucktard republicans
21:38.47 Maloeran And it took me a good 4.5 hours to figure out the thing!
21:38.51 ``Erik heh
21:38.58 ``Erik takes me like 3 minutes with any start position
21:39.05 ``Erik just give me a flathead screwdriver and watch me go, yo
21:39.11 louipc takes me... I don't even know how long
21:39.15 Maloeran I had never studied the toy before, I'm sure I could do better next time
21:39.21 louipc ``Erik: ah good one
21:42.05 louipc like that? http://growabrain.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/08/18/rubik_4x4.jpg
21:42.13 ``Erik heh, yes.. 2*n=2+n. Proof: n=2, 2*2 = 2+2, true. That's done, proven even!
21:42.24 ``Erik go play some sudoku, boy :D
21:42.40 Maloeran Sodoku is dreadfully boring :)
21:43.03 ``Erik play aussie rules sudoku
21:43.05 ``Erik full contact
21:43.06 ``Erik :D
21:46.37 dtidrow_work lol
21:47.11 Maloeran I have no idea what Sudoku full contact is, but I laughed too :)
21:48.54 dtidrow_work heh - I was thinking about footy when I saw that :-)
21:49.32 dtidrow_work (footy = aussie rules football)
21:50.40 Maloeran People have already written 4d and even 5d Rubik's cubes
21:50.51 Maloeran The 5 dimensions one frightens me
21:50.54 dtidrow_work yeah
21:51.07 dtidrow_work hard enough to think about a 4D cube...
21:51.58 louipc yeah how the heck does that work?
21:52.32 dtidrow_work no cule
21:52.35 dtidrow_work clue
21:53.08 dtidrow_work my brain hurts any time I think of something higher than 3D
21:53.32 Maloeran In 4 dimensions, you would have 8 3d volumes, of which you must align the 54 cells
21:53.58 Maloeran I can think of simple stuff in 4d, but a Rubik's cube is pushing a bit too far
21:55.33 dtidrow_work indeed
21:56.30 louipc 3d 'shadows' of 4d things are insane even
21:56.54 dtidrow_work that I can kinda grok
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22:33.13 yukonbob hey cadders
22:33.23 ``Erik potato
22:33.36 yukonbob ~lart potato
22:33.36 ibot whips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that potato is stuck to the floor

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