IRC log for #brlcad on 20071010

01:31.39 CIA-4 libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r260 10/trunk/libirc/ (include/IRCServer.h src/IRCServer.cpp): get some command processing going
01:31.59 CIA-4 libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r261 10/trunk/libirc/examples/stupidServer/src/stupidServer.cpp: log all transactions
01:32.09 CIA-4 libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r262 10/trunk/libirc/examples/simpleIRCConnect/src/simpleIRCConnect.cpp: log all transactions
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05:38.47 CIA-4 libirc: 03mm_202 * r263 10/trunk/libirc/ (include/IRCUserManager.h src/IRCUserManager.cpp): Commented out the area that is causing the segfaults. A dirty hack, but it'll be fixed later.
06:03.52 CIA-4 libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r264 10/trunk/libirc/include/IRCUserManager.h: footer
06:04.20 CIA-4 libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r265 10/trunk/libirc/src/IRCUserManager.cpp: search the user records backwards, so that we can do erases and not need a fixed iterator.
06:07.35 CIA-4 libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r266 10/trunk/libirc/include/IRCServer.h: set the hostname
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06:08.30 CIA-4 libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r267 10/trunk/libirc/include/IRCServer.h: return the validitidy of said hostname
06:11.14 CIA-4 libirc: 03mm_202 * r268 10/trunk/libirc/include/IRCClient.h: Removed a comment.
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06:42.31 CIA-4 libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r269 10/trunk/libirc/src/IRCUserManager.cpp: verify iterators exist before we remove them
07:10.11 CIA-4 libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r270 10/trunk/libirc/src/IRCUserManager.cpp: itrtastic.
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12:40.58 ``Erik hummm
12:41.01 ``Erik *vgr vgr2.brl.mil 1.24 1.11 .99 .99 .93 1.05
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13:58.12 brlcad awesomes!
14:56.42 ``Erik that's at 345kips, doing 330 now to see if I can get the summary tuned down a little
14:57.10 ``Erik the last few are the most time intensive, I have a feeling that the skew I'm seeing is due to using 'infinitely' fast disks, which I doubt vgr had
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17:15.19 ``Erik xkcd rules
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17:53.43 tlhiv_laptop i've installed brl-cad, but i'm not sure how to start the gui
17:53.52 tlhiv_laptop i don't know what the name of the executable is?
18:09.12 ``Erik "Like the British Navy, a computerized system is designed by geniuses to be run by morons." heh
18:09.17 ``Erik "mged" is the one you want, tlhiv_laptop
18:09.43 tlhiv_laptop ok ... i'm going to recompile the latest version anyway ... i'll launch that one when it's done
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19:39.37 brlcad ``Erik: how'd the second run go?
19:39.55 ``Erik still running
19:39.59 ``Erik on world.pix
19:40.16 ``Erik vgr was sssllloooowwwww compared to what we use now...
19:40.43 brlcad figured .. takes like an hour an image iirc?
19:41.02 ``Erik moss takes around 30-40 minutes, m35 takes a couple hours
19:41.31 ``Erik john said they usually ran it overnight
19:41.31 brlcad sphereflake will probably take half a day then :)
19:42.15 ``Erik ayup
19:42.44 ``Erik and I hope to run it a few times to make sure I get reasonably consistent numbers
19:47.10 brlcad hm, by the original numbers ( moss=41min bldg=106min world=109min star=93min m35=154min ) .. that means sphflake should be..
19:47.47 brlcad try the machine under cpu and then disk load too .. see if it affects simh
19:48.12 brlcad to know if it needs to be set up clean-room like or if it's good regardless
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19:49.50 ``Erik I've been making sure there isn't any real load on the machine anyways *shrug* :/ kermit is going to try to find the system configuration file and details on the tuning and hw for the original
19:50.18 brlcad looks like it should be about 176 minutes for sphflake if I remember the vgr count correctly for the reference box
19:52.30 ``Erik I'm figuring if the average on this run is within 5%, I'll do a sphflake.log and drop it in, then if we can get it tuned better (mebbe witht he right drive emulated), do another sphflake... I'm hoping one run on vgr2 will be better than the current, and will get us the 95% mark on 'right'...
19:52.46 ``Erik but that last 5% is 95% of the effort :)
20:06.33 brlcad yeah, there's a diminishing payoff after too much effort
20:07.12 brlcad even the 1.05 isn't too bad, I could see it being slightly slower or (more likely) slightly faster
20:07.41 ``Erik if this run is better than 1.05, I'm calling it good... takes too much time :)
20:08.34 brlcad the only difference is that once it is normalized, it should make a massive impact on the final vgr
20:08.58 brlcad since right now, it's effectively lost in the average as a near-zero result in comparison
20:09.06 ``Erik um, I'm tuning the machine against 4.3, so sphflake isn't impacting the results
20:09.29 brlcad i mean correcting current to actually be a "vgr" reference
20:09.30 ``Erik now all the modern results will change
20:09.35 brlcad instead of the O2 I'd used
20:09.44 brlcad right, that's what I mean
20:09.52 ``Erik and that's a good thing
20:09.54 ``Erik :D
20:09.59 ``Erik </marthastewert>
20:10.00 brlcad it is
20:10.39 brlcad it'll be a little wonky at first for those familiar with the old numbers, but makes current hardware actually correllate (instead of being artificially deflated)
20:11.00 brlcad increasing the modern/current vgr counts by about 1/6th
20:11.35 brlcad everyones machines will suddenly get 5% faster
20:12.14 ``Erik erm, 1/6 > 5%
20:12.17 ``Erik O.o
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20:46.54 brlcad er, 16%
20:47.15 brlcad divide by 18, carry the one, subtract 12 ..
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21:14.55 Z80-Boy lol
21:16.19 starseeker of course, I hadn't rebooted in a month or more...
21:23.30 ``Erik O.o still shouldn't crash, I've run happy machines for over a year without anything like that... hell, I even managed a linux machine up over a year (but not running X)
21:24.28 ``Erik with my fbsd boxen, the only downtimes I've seen (on a stable version, not my unstable hacking version) are power outages, kernel upgrade, hw upgrade, and nvidias binary driver *cough*
21:24.31 starseeker It was something funny about mouse/menu interactions I think...
21:24.48 starseeker I probably hit some weird corner case
21:25.57 starseeker Accidental click/drag/click-fast/wiggle or something...
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22:33.11 starseeker brlcad: Back home yet?
22:36.19 louipc openoffice oh no
22:36.27 starseeker hehe.
22:36.52 starseeker Well, it's still better than MS Office and sometimes one has to communicate with that side...
22:50.22 louipc yeah I need to set up a session manager
23:09.07 ``Erik 'screen' is awesome like that.
23:11.05 louipc screen doesn't save X sessions does it?
23:11.37 ``Erik no, but it retains your console
23:11.52 ``Erik so unless thte machine reboots, you don't lose anything
23:12.13 louipc yeah I use multiple terms + screen
23:12.50 louipc but I have to re create the windows if for some reason X acts up
23:16.22 ``Erik I tend to have one big honkin' xterm with screen running in it
23:16.44 ``Erik so I can detach, go to work, ssh in and screen -r to be back where I was
23:16.49 ``Erik and visa versa

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