IRC log for #brlcad on 20071020

00:26.52 *** part/#brlcad mikola (n=mikola@rmdsouza.wecn.sabo.mtu.edu)
00:42.02 yukonbob brlcad: "wrong way bob" --- directed at me?
02:14.45 brlcad no, the "other bob" :)
02:14.57 brlcad ``Erik: 3pm
02:24.57 ``Erik thanks
03:46.53 starseeker brlcad: on?
03:48.07 louipc starseeker: were you doing volumeII ?
03:48.44 starseeker louipc: Yes, I started on it
03:49.01 starseeker louipc: I'll be continuing if life ever returns to something resembling sanity...
03:49.35 louipc cool maybe I'll join in
03:49.43 starseeker feel free :-)
03:49.47 louipc there's so many things to be done
03:50.04 starseeker Most of the markup is pretty rough - I'm anticipating doing a lot of reworking
03:50.16 louipc I have to figure out which is the best itch to scratch
03:50.18 starseeker I just wanted to have it "close" before staring the details
03:51.04 starseeker Heh - know that feeling
03:52.30 louipc well I'm just talking about in brlcad alone haha
03:52.49 louipc command line creation of sketch primitives is one thing I'd like
03:52.52 starseeker hehe - yeah there's plenty in there to keep any geek hypnotized
03:54.54 louipc yeah that's something that would come later
03:56.03 louipc not silly at all. I'd like that too :D
03:57.33 starseeker "download BRL-CAD, simulate the Apollo 11 moon landing!"
03:57.51 louipc heh heh
03:58.00 louipc I have trouble viewing havoc
03:58.09 starseeker or for more explosive fun, maybe someone could dig up the Russian N1 blueprints...
03:58.55 starseeker louipc: really? what hardware are you running on?
03:59.25 Supaplex he upgraded. his 8088 has a coprocessor now.
03:59.33 louipc 866MHz PIII 384MB RAM
03:59.41 starseeker Oh no wonder.
04:00.05 starseeker I was stuck about there for a long time too, maddening...
04:00.41 louipc it's not so bad with linux
04:01.07 starseeker What desktop do you run?
04:01.17 louipc openbox
04:01.38 starseeker :-)
04:02.53 starseeker It's weird, but fluxbox seems to represent some kind of local optimum for me...
04:03.08 starseeker stays out of the way, does what I need, light on resources.
04:03.46 louipc that's openbox pretty much
04:04.02 louipc it's even simpler
04:04.07 starseeker wow
04:04.17 louipc I don't really like xml configs though
04:05.32 starseeker "power" terminals seem so silly when you can just fire off xterms and dock them using the windowmanager itself.
04:05.33 louipc so many apps have tabs now it's not really a big deal
04:05.53 louipc I used tabs with multiple terms when I used fluxbox. now I just use screen
04:06.24 starseeker True, but (for example) I can have firefox with docbook docs, emacs with volume II xml, and a terminal in the cvs archive all in a single tabbed group :-)
04:07.55 louipc yeah
04:09.31 louipc indeed
04:10.04 yukonbob (reading from his screen'd irssi ;)
04:15.24 yukonbob <sesame street>One of these things, isn't the same</sesame street>
04:19.43 Supaplex ... One of these things is not like the other
04:19.47 Supaplex iirc :)
04:28.26 louipc starseeker: what's the path to the docbook files?
04:29.47 starseeker doc/book/
04:30.47 louipc uh oh
04:30.52 louipc dang cvs
04:47.37 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * 10brlcad/src/librt/g_arbn.c: When an arbn is imported with a non-identity matrix, the import routine assumes unit normal vectors. The code now unitizes the normals prior to applying the matrix. This fixes bug #1800148 - arbn is incorrectly mirrored
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12:11.35 ``Erik pussies
12:14.35 Maloeran You know that bx includes /detach and scr-bx? :)
12:26.52 ``Erik yes
12:26.59 ``Erik that's the "miniscreen"
12:27.59 ``Erik but if I accidently close the window or if there's a network hiccup that kills my ssh session, bx will quit... and right now, the screen on my fbsd server is running 8 windows and the one on my laptop has 3
12:28.54 ``Erik often, the one running on the machine I'm at has each window named for the machine I'm ssh'd into there
12:29.23 ``Erik hardstatus alwayslastline "%{b}[ %{B}%H %{b}][ %{w}%?%-Lw%?%{b}(%{W}%n*%f %t%?(%u)%?%{b})%{w}%?%+Lw%?%?%= %{b}][%{B} %d/%m %{W}%C%a %{b}]"
12:29.40 ``Erik that in the .screenrc helps a bit, at the cost of one row per screen level
12:34.27 Maloeran bx is supposed to have a variable for detach_on_sighup or something, not that it worked for me
12:58.10 ``Erik given that I had other reasons to run screen on my server, I never bothered looking for something like that *shrug*
12:58.39 ``Erik 'screen -d' is a big win, too
12:58.49 ``Erik for when I forget to detach :D
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18:57.43 IriX64 http://rafb.net/p/8LvNR266.html <------ does this happen on your copy too?
19:04.40 IriX64 i've got two other issues (this ones easy to fix) but bwish and mged both come up with tons of undefs to x functions, still trying to pin that down.
19:06.49 IriX64 http://rafb.net/p/IxISxf19.html <---- this ones easy to fix too.
19:07.48 *** join/#brlcad butti (n=butti@e178104046.adsl.alicedsl.de)
19:07.53 butti hello
19:08.12 butti anybody home?
19:09.01 louipc nope
19:09.08 IriX64 thank God he didn't use bu_bomb anywhere outside rtsrv.c
19:10.20 butti i will install brlcad on my maschine
19:11.01 butti but maybe dont need to do that if the program dosnt import clean dxf from blender? what is your experience?
19:12.06 IriX64 rttherm suffers same as bwish and mged is it my system?
19:12.55 butti do I get any answare?
19:13.53 louipc I think you can import dxf
19:13.58 louipc or convert it
19:14.10 butti did you try it with blender?
19:14.15 louipc nope
19:14.21 louipc send me a file
19:14.27 butti I mean export file to dxf and tahn open that brl
19:14.32 butti in brlcad
19:14.37 butti ok
19:14.45 butti trogh dcc?
19:14.52 louipc dxf-g is the app you want in brlcad
19:15.10 louipc I've never tried it though
19:15.12 louipc butti: yep
19:15.18 IriX64 that works i imported a shuttle pix with it
19:15.27 IriX64 shuttle.dxf
19:15.56 IriX64 that was on 7.8.4 tho
19:16.34 butti dxf- g? /ddc send louipc /home/butti/Blender/Scenes/VM/vm20.dxf
19:16.38 butti shit :)
19:16.58 louipc dxf-g is the program to convert from dxf to brlcad format
19:17.18 IriX64 and it works :)
19:17.30 butti ok where I get it?
19:17.40 IriX64 its part of brlcad
19:17.47 IriX64 look in brlcad/bin
19:18.02 butti I mean in qcad the file is not usable
19:18.06 butti ok
19:18.22 IriX64 make install
19:18.33 butti I still download
19:18.41 IriX64 arghhh hate windows it doesn't know what i want to do :(
19:18.44 butti 28%
19:18.56 butti IriX64: :)
19:19.12 IriX64 :)
19:19.13 louipc hmm! I can't get this file!
19:19.21 butti dont know why this server is so slow
19:19.30 butti hmm
19:19.40 louipc 15:15 DCC no file offered by butti
19:19.49 louipc but it's in the list for some reason
19:19.51 louipc lol
19:19.55 louipc (stalled)
19:20.22 butti why that?
19:20.52 IriX64 why does my copy say 7.11.0 now :)
19:20.57 louipc 15:17 DCC can't connect to 192.168.1.3 port 33160
19:21.16 butti on my side?
19:21.37 louipc I've been able to send dcc before without problems
19:21.40 louipc it may be
19:21.59 butti i will uload thatto the web
19:22.42 louipc good idea
19:28.09 butti louipc: did you get my msg?
19:31.38 louipc yea
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19:38.28 butti so I leave, thank you boyes
19:38.35 *** part/#brlcad butti (n=butti@e178104046.adsl.alicedsl.de)
19:38.38 IriX64 http://www3.sympatico.ca/mario.dulisse2/7.11.0.png < ---- a forced build but it sorta works
19:59.23 IriX64 more to do, later all :)
20:24.30 *** part/#brlcad crotchetyGuy (n=brent@75-167-160-25.bois.qwest.net)
20:47.56 Z80-Boy woohoo! The arbn bug fixed!
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21:07.01 louipc brlcad feels so european
21:07.10 louipc mm units as default
21:07.15 louipc 1st angle projection
21:29.51 yukonbob louipc: if using mm and feeling uropean is too foreign for you, feel C
21:30.02 yukonbob louipc: if using mm and feeling European is too foreign for you, feel Canadian instead...
22:52.43 *** join/#brlcad IriX64 (n=mariodot@bas2-sudbury98-1177879294.dsl.bell.ca)
22:53.26 IriX64 http://rafb.net/p/GkbXsx62.html <----- do you know about this one? dg_obj uses static, raytrace.h use non static, which is right?
22:54.47 IriX64 err wait
22:57.35 IriX64 oh man what gives?
23:00.24 IriX64 ill rename the one in dgo_obj.c to dgo_tree_cmd_dgo doesn't appear to be used anywhere else.
23:08.58 IriX64 compiles
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23:28.08 incalizondo cant connect to fb server on port 5559
23:28.17 incalizondo anyone out there get that?
23:29.07 incalizondo gnube here,,,,,mged wont render
23:29.34 IriX64 exec fbserv -S 512 1 /dev/X & what happens?
23:30.28 incalizondo [zondo@localhost ~]$ exec fbserv -S 512 1 /dev/X &
23:30.29 incalizondo [1] 2042
23:30.29 incalizondo [zondo@localhost ~]$ X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
23:30.29 incalizondo <PROTECTED>
23:30.29 incalizondo <PROTECTED>
23:30.29 incalizondo <PROTECTED>
23:30.31 incalizondo <PROTECTED>
23:30.33 incalizondo that
23:31.03 IriX64 man i meant from mged :)
23:31.25 incalizondo hahahaha oh dam
23:33.34 IriX64 if it comes up use 1 as the port number for any programs that need to know the port number
23:33.57 incalizondo a box flashed up and was gone real fast ,,,,
23:34.05 incalizondo 2049
23:34.17 IriX64 try /dev/ogl
23:34.26 incalizondo is what was lewft in the mged shell
23:34.47 IriX64 what version brlcad?
23:36.26 incalizondo ok trying ogl created a large black area,,,,,really hard to see whats what
23:36.56 IriX64 thats your frame buffer, now bring something up and use rt to render it
23:38.52 incalizondo no dice
23:39.59 IriX64 what did you type?
23:40.14 incalizondo do i have to connect to a display manager when i start mged,,,,like when you create a new data.g?
23:40.28 incalizondo i didnt type i used to gui command
23:40.38 incalizondo the gui command
23:40.48 IriX64 think connecting is required
23:41.01 IriX64 try rtedge --help
23:41.07 IriX64 or rt --help
23:41.43 IriX64 and be aware i know less then most folks about brlcad operation.
23:42.39 incalizondo someone screamed dinner was ready :d ty 4 de help
23:42.44 *** part/#brlcad incalizondo (n=zondo@ip68-228-20-34.pn.at.cox.net)
23:59.41 ``Erik eck, my feets O.o not used to standing so much, heh

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