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| 08:13.57 | brlcad | minute-ssh: made a slew of changes to the header, trying out various different styles/approaches |
| 08:14.58 | brlcad | minute-ssh: the menu expands nicely now and I think it looks a little better, but I had a problems getting the bezel to wok on windows for some reason |
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| 08:15.31 | brlcad | changed the images too -- now using gifs for the background images with the colors corrected to the color_palette images |
| 08:17.08 | brlcad | didn't change the title, byline, or axis yet to make a precomposited image for broken browsers |
| 08:17.51 | brlcad | and still have to fix the search tabs so that they expand correctly now too .. those should be the last items that need to be tweaked to allow resizing |
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| 09:33.18 | MinuteElectron | brlcad: I already changed the x,y,z axis to gif :) |
| 09:38.24 | MinuteElectron | And you must have a lot more patience than I do. |
| 09:39.07 | MinuteElectron | The new design is definitely an improvement. |
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| 13:50.57 | Maloeran | This is so absurd. The federal, provincial and municipal governments are preparing a proposal to move the United Nations to... Montreal! |
| 13:51.06 | Maloeran | The odds of success are so astronomically low |
| 13:53.58 | brlcad | MinuteElectron: I don't think it's so much patience as it is my obsessive-compulsive tendancies .. there are still several things on the layout that will grate me until they're fixed :-) |
| 13:54.48 | MinuteElectron | ahh, allright |
| 14:27.42 | ``Erik | heh, "come to montreal! we don't have any building worth flying in to!" |
| 14:27.43 | ``Erik | *cough* |
| 14:28.27 | ``Erik | and every translated statement will require yet another translation to french *cough* |
| 14:28.30 | ``Erik | O:-) |
| 14:33.14 | Maloeran | Eh, exactly. And who's dreaming that the United States would let the UN go away? It seems our governments have money to throw away on futile and delusionary projects |
| 14:34.35 | Maloeran | Canada also wanted to host the International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor despites providing a tiny fraction of the funding, and walked out when France won the hosting bid |
| 14:35.57 | ``Erik | damn uppity canucks and their insane nationalism |
| 14:35.58 | ``Erik | :D |
| 14:37.39 | Maloeran | Yup! :) |
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| 16:55.45 | butti | hello |
| 16:56.38 | butti | ``Erik: are you an american? |
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| 17:05.08 | yukonbob | hello, whirled. |
| 17:35.45 | ``Erik | Dr. Calvin Rickson, a scientist from Ohio State University has invented a bra that keeps women's breasts from jiggling and prevents the nipples from pushing through the fabric when cold weather sets in. |
| 17:35.46 | ``Erik | At a news conference, after announcing the invention, a large group of men took Dr. Rickson outside and kicked the s#$% out of him. |
| 17:35.48 | ``Erik | butti: yes |
| 17:36.27 | MinuteElectron | lawl |
| 17:36.31 | ``Erik | but not one of the vocal idiot minority that most non-americans assume represent all americans, sorry |
| 17:37.19 | butti | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.22 | ``Erik | I don't have american flags on my house or car, I don't say "buy american, just because", I don't wear baseball hats (or watch sports), I don't drink piss like 'miller' or 'bud', I don't believe that if you don't speak english, you should get out, ... |
| 17:37.45 | butti | lovely |
| 17:37.50 | ``Erik | <-- lived in japan for 3 years, lived on the canuck border most of his life, drives a german car, ... :) |
| 17:38.17 | ``Erik | and I am extremely displeased with the current administration |
| 17:38.59 | butti | Im always worry about americans..so hard to live with them |
| 17:39.19 | ``Erik | you live with people from the US? |
| 17:39.32 | butti | no, I mean all the nation |
| 17:39.36 | ``Erik | heh |
| 17:39.46 | ``Erik | <-- points out that texans are NOT americans, they're texans. |
| 17:39.48 | ``Erik | damnit. |
| 17:39.52 | butti | hehe |
| 17:40.03 | ``Erik | that'd be like quebec being in control of canada |
| 17:40.20 | ``Erik | or jutland being in control of germany |
| 17:40.25 | butti | 3 times i hat american lovers..they was all left-liberal |
| 17:40.36 | ``Erik | or ireland being in control of UK |
| 17:40.54 | ``Erik | :D |
| 17:41.05 | butti | hehe |
| 17:41.09 | ``Erik | (and the one of my analogies that doesn't fit is probably the germany/jutland one) |
| 17:42.17 | butti | but this means, the left-liberal are not bindingly |
| 17:42.34 | butti | i dont know nothing about jutland |
| 17:44.14 | butti | I mean, thats why such a persol like Sarkozy, who divorse with her wife is so spectacular. he is right front as rapublicans do |
| 17:44.44 | butti | you know what i mean |
| 17:45.47 | butti | where are you living right now ``Erik ? |
| 17:47.57 | ``Erik | I live just north of baltimore, ont he east coast... but I mostly grew up north of seattle |
| 17:48.54 | butti | ok seatle must be cool, that what ive hear about this city |
| 17:49.02 | ``Erik | *nod* I miss it |
| 17:51.10 | butti | but you have alway sun in baltimore, here becomes quit dizzy ...brrr, cold and gray |
| 17:51.17 | butti | grey |
| 17:54.11 | butti | now we have a new goverment in Poland, I think the soldiers will come backs from Irak now, I hope so |
| 17:56.18 | ``Erik | <-- prefers cold and grey |
| 17:56.36 | butti | the old kaczynsky Klones wanted to stay in irak becouse: "we should do this shit till the end, becouse we promised that" |
| 18:00.00 | butti | no, I defintly prefer sun, which I didnt see this year (seating on front of display) |
| 18:03.50 | ``Erik | hum |
| 18:03.52 | ``Erik | what is "the end"? |
| 18:04.43 | ``Erik | I understand war as an activity between people, and one submits... terrorism is an idea/tactic... there can never be a 'victory' because an idea cannot capitulate |
| 18:04.48 | MinuteElectron | cold + bright FTW |
| 18:05.05 | brlcad | heh |
| 18:06.23 | ``Erik | so, uh... tag and kick out? |
| 18:08.25 | brlcad | yeah |
| 18:09.14 | ``Erik | are you going to do it? I don't have a -STABLE checkout right now, and I dunno if I want to play with rtag right now, I'm feelin' a little too... calm :) |
| 18:10.04 | butti | ``Erik: exactly |
| 18:10.24 | butti | hi brlcad :) |
| 18:16.33 | brlcad | howdy butti |
| 18:16.46 | brlcad | ``Erik: I'll tag it |
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| 20:05.57 | CIA-27 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald 07STABLE * 10brlcad/src/mged/clone.c: MFC |
| 20:11.38 | brlcad | jeez |
| 20:11.49 | dtidrow_work | ? |
| 20:12.03 | ``Erik | sorry, but it's a slew of stuff that big D has been begging for |
| 20:12.08 | ``Erik | :D |
| 20:12.13 | brlcad | now if that don't compile cleanly.. i'm gonna just point |
| 20:12.22 | ``Erik | oh, it'll compile cleanly... I hope |
| 20:12.27 | brlcad | mmhmm |
| 20:12.39 | brlcad | you get to do the irix build |
| 20:12.40 | dtidrow_work | heh |
| 20:12.40 | ``Erik | if it breaks it, I'll do the distcheck and upload |
| 20:12.43 | ``Erik | !#~@!~ |
| 20:12.48 | dtidrow_work | famous last words... |
| 20:13.10 | brlcad | so should I announce the new command, or wait a release? |
| 20:13.14 | ``Erik | um |
| 20:13.21 | brlcad | it's not yet in the notes |
| 20:13.29 | ``Erik | it's missing mirroring and picking the rotation point |
| 20:13.30 | brlcad | i was going to wait |
| 20:13.38 | brlcad | okay, sounds like a waiter then |
| 20:13.46 | ``Erik | and dwayne has requested reworking so it respects instancing |
| 20:14.02 | brlcad | dtidrow_work: in the process (literally minutes away from tagging) and he's committing "MFC" :) |
| 20:14.05 | ``Erik | I told him that'd be considerably more effort than the other little things, so he's cool with letting it slide |
| 20:14.22 | ``Erik | (thus the innocent whistle) |
| 20:14.53 | brlcad | hey i don't mind, just hope it compiles cleanly |
| 20:14.55 | ``Erik | but this hits more than 50% of the clone "problems" in that email |
| 20:15.20 | ``Erik | I'd hope it'd be more apt to compile cleanly than before, I moved from system commands to libbu commands for the most part |
| 20:16.50 | CIA-27 | libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r297 10/trunk/libirc/src/IRCUserManager.cpp: vectors return an iterator on erase |
| 20:18.25 | ``Erik | so are we going to push for a halloween release, too? |
| 20:35.48 | CIA-27 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad 07STABLE * 10brlcad/NEWS: added release notes and updated version for 7.10.4, beginning of final release preparations |
| 20:36.17 | CIA-27 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad 07STABLE * 10brlcad/include/conf/PATCH: update to final 7.10.4 version |
| 20:39.13 | ``Erik | I d'no |
| 20:39.17 | ``Erik | should I try compiling it before I commit? |
| 20:40.01 | poolio__ | oo release?\ |
| 20:40.09 | brlcad | that's why there's actually two distcheck tests :P |
| 20:40.31 | minute | You get to use the news thing on the new website. ;) |
| 20:41.15 | CIA-27 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald 07STABLE * 10brlcad/src/mged/clone.c: back out the bu_vls_strcmp() macro as STABLE bu.h trails... a lot... |
| 20:41.52 | CIA-27 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad 07STABLE * 10brlcad/ChangeLog: massive changelog update from 2007-05-16 to today, preparing for the big 7.10.4 release |
| 20:42.19 | *** topic/#brlcad by brlcad -> BRL-CAD Open Source Solid Modeling || http://brlcad.org || http://sf.net/projects/brlcad || BRL-CAD is on scan.coverity.com but not completely set up yet, more news TBD || Release 7.10.4 is happening now | |
| 20:42.29 | poolio__ | Cheers :) |
| 20:43.07 | brlcad | poolio__: beset is actually listed in this release, but haven't made the bigger announcement yet -- waiting till 7.12 |
| 20:44.07 | ``Erik | what are the triggers for 7.12.0? endgame, archer and bombadier? |
| 20:44.53 | brlcad | the triggers are usually either a major new feature in itself, or the accummulation of major features since the previous minor rev |
| 20:45.24 | brlcad | endgame wouldn't likely be a trigger |
| 20:45.39 | ``Erik | I meant those as a boolean expression |
| 20:45.56 | brlcad | maybe bombardier if it has automatic crash reporting with a gui and several apps with signal handlers |
| 20:45.58 | ``Erik | and when ya get close to it, usually ya pick the actual things to trip it... :D |
| 20:46.02 | poolio__ | brlcad: errr why is beset even listed? |
| 20:46.32 | brlcad | because it's in the release |
| 20:46.33 | ``Erik | to embarrass you, ben :D |
| 20:46.42 | brlcad | it will compile and be installed |
| 20:46.44 | poolio__ | what the christ. |
| 20:46.49 | brlcad | and be on thousands of people's machines |
| 20:46.53 | ``Erik | it's important for porters |
| 20:46.58 | brlcad | whether they know it or use it is another matter.. ;) |
| 20:47.04 | ``Erik | some of us need to manage lists of installed files |
| 20:47.34 | brlcad | poolio__: it's effectively zero-maintenance, and might even inspire someone else to pick up where you left off |
| 20:47.57 | poolio__ | Alrighty. Just seems like it won't be too useful to anyone, except maybe some code examples. |
| 20:48.11 | brlcad | that's why it's not "announced" .. just in the feature list |
| 20:48.12 | poolio__ | I guess I should be saying thanks and stop whining :) |
| 20:48.28 | brlcad | any "user-visible" change is supposed to be listed in the NEWS file with a 1-liner |
| 20:48.51 | brlcad | that certainly qualifies as 'user visible' given it will compile and be installed |
| 20:49.52 | poolio__ | How often do you guys do releases? Wasn't it supposed to be monthly? |
| 20:50.09 | ``Erik | it was, but politics intervened. |
| 20:50.17 | brlcad | yeah, supposed to be .. but this is a "major integration" release |
| 20:50.23 | poolio__ | ah |
| 20:50.24 | brlcad | coordinated with the main analyses user |
| 20:50.30 | brlcad | s/user/code/ |
| 20:50.32 | ``Erik | <-- is hoping for 7.10.6 on halloween |
| 20:50.48 | poolio__ | heh, that's only like a week away |
| 20:51.00 | ``Erik | yes, but stable went cold quite a while ago |
| 20:51.05 | ``Erik | and head kept marching along |
| 20:51.10 | brlcad | head is already 7.11 |
| 20:51.17 | ``Erik | ah |
| 20:51.31 | ``Erik | after 7.10.4 is tagged, I expect to see a huge MFC |
| 20:51.40 | brlcad | this release should really probably be 7.12, it's not in the spirit of patches.. there were significant features |
| 20:51.52 | brlcad | especially since 7.10 |
| 20:51.57 | brlcad | (.0) |
| 20:52.26 | ``Erik | (MFC is "merge from current" for the non-bsd geeks) |
| 20:53.13 | brlcad | ~mfc |
| 20:53.14 | ibot | Microsoft Foundation Classes, or crap |
| 20:53.30 | brlcad | ~mfc is also Merge From Current |
| 20:53.31 | ibot | brlcad: okay |
| 20:53.41 | brlcad | ~mfc is also a Major Fscking Change |
| 20:53.41 | ibot | brlcad: okay |
| 20:54.02 | ``Erik | ~mfc |
| 20:54.02 | ibot | Microsoft Foundation Classes, or crap. Merge From Current, or a Major Fscking Change |
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| 20:54.45 | ``Erik | http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/freebsd-glossary.html#MFC-GLOSSARY |
| 20:54.47 | poolio__ | speak of the devil...haha |
| 20:55.04 | poolio__ | well congrats on almost getting the release, I must do work then an ECE lab :\ |
| 20:55.07 | brlcad | yukonbob: are you the devil? |
| 20:55.24 | dtidrow_work | ah, that's what MFC is... |
| 20:55.42 | yukonbob | I might be, but I can't read what's not in my log -- what did I just miss ;) |
| 20:55.52 | ``Erik | (sorry, been a fbsd dork since '98 or '99) |
| 20:56.00 | dtidrow_work | Microsoft Foundation Classes was the only one I could come up with, and I knew that was wrong... |
| 20:56.18 | dtidrow_work | Major Fscking Change is best ;-) |
| 20:56.29 | ``Erik | fscking a |
| 20:57.36 | ``Erik | main fuel control? mine field clearance? minimum fault coverage? mutli-frequency code? multiple flight computer? :D http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/MFC |
| 20:57.50 | dtidrow_work | heh |
| 20:58.40 | brlcad | arg... a slew of itcl init errors during make distcheck that I hadn't noticed |
| 20:59.13 | brlcad | will have to test mged and company to make sure they actually init properly on install |
| 21:00.14 | brlcad | i had them fixed at one point |
| 21:00.25 | brlcad | it should work prior to install now |
| 21:00.32 | yukonbob | is this for the pending x.x.4? |
| 21:00.37 | brlcad | probably something with the out-of-dir dist build |
| 21:01.01 | brlcad | I think the auto_path logic that was added assumes being able to locate the src dir |
| 21:02.57 | brlcad | ./configure --enable-all --disable-opengl --enable-optimized --prefix=/usr/brlcad/rel-7.10.4 |
| 21:06.05 | ``Erik | can you scp that to the failing file server in /r/tmp/ ? |
| 21:06.13 | ``Erik | or tell me where on that dang sgi it is? |
| 21:07.53 | brlcad | it was in my home in brlcad.STABLE, but coping now |
| 21:08.33 | brlcad | man it must already be choking .. getting about 100kb/s write rate |
| 21:10.13 | ``Erik | um, that, uh, other program is running |
| 21:10.18 | ``Erik | stresstesting the disks, heh :D |
| 21:10.52 | brlcad | my other scp is never gonna finish before it explodes |
| 21:10.56 | brlcad | done copying |
| 21:11.11 | ``Erik | it should, I'm only like 3.5 gigs in |
| 21:11.43 | ``Erik | chmod pls? |
| 21:13.08 | ``Erik | okie, rewt it is |
| 21:13.23 | brlcad | done |
| 21:13.36 | ``Erik | heh, I'd already chmod'd it as root :) |
| 21:18.33 | brlcad | tagging |
| 21:19.05 | ``Erik | yay, configure: error: `CPPFLAGS' has changed since the previous run: |
| 21:28.10 | starseeker | Is the tarball hiding anywhere? |
| 21:28.34 | ``Erik | yeah, that'd probably be the easiest :) -rSTABLE |
| 21:46.21 | starseeker | <announcer-voice>Annnnnnnd here we go :-)</announcer-voice> |
| 22:03.40 | yukonbob | so, is 7.10.4 tagged and bagged? |
| 22:05.31 | brlcad | howdy starseeker |
| 22:05.56 | starseeker | brlcad: howdy :-) |
| 22:06.00 | brlcad | yukonbob: yeah, it's tagged, rel-7-10-4 |
| 22:06.18 | yukonbob | nice -- /me will grab as -current, and try with his build system... |
| 22:11.48 | brlcad | cool |
| 22:12.08 | yukonbob | brlcad: btw, what's the devil ref. above? |
| 22:13.52 | starseeker | yukonbob: Do you use FreeBSD? |
| 22:14.31 | yukonbob | it's not my primary, but yes... |
| 22:17.25 | yukonbob | ?Is a reference to the Beastie? |
| 22:17.30 | yukonbob | (chuck)? |
| 22:18.11 | yukonbob | anyway -- will find out later -- I'm at end of battery, and need to head home... will report 7.10.4 results later... ciao all.. |
| 22:18.31 | brlcad | yukonbob: i'm frankly not sure .. just funny timing with poolio's comment |
| 22:18.42 | yukonbob | what was poolios comment... |
| 22:18.57 | brlcad | "speak of the devil...haha" .. after you joined :) |
| 22:19.08 | yukonbob | this is probably so drawn out the funny is all evaporated... |
| 22:19.29 | brlcad | i'm not sure it was ever funny to anyone but me at the moment it was written ;) |
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| 22:32.47 | Darkwell | hello |
| 22:32.51 | Darkwell | what license does brlcad have ? |
| 22:33.09 | brlcad | predominantly LGPL |
| 22:33.15 | Darkwell | I see |
| 22:33.19 | brlcad | BSD on the build system and a few of the tools |
| 22:33.28 | brlcad | but otherwise, pretty much LGPL |
| 22:33.41 | brlcad | details in the COPYING file in the source distribution |
| 22:34.20 | Darkwell | and for a noob like me , I wonder does brlcad suit to create materials to use for cnc production ? |
| 22:34.46 | brlcad | hm, for creating the basic geometry, sure |
| 22:34.54 | brlcad | but for creating the CNC code, no not really |
| 22:35.02 | brlcad | for that, maybe something like gcam |
| 22:35.25 | Darkwell | ok |
| 22:36.06 | Darkwell | but arent there tools I can use to convert to gcodes etc |
| 22:36.21 | brlcad | brl-cad is a solid modeling system, so the models can generally work very well for machining when modeled correctly, but there's presently not a g-code exporter or drivers for any particular cnc device, just simple stl and dxf exporters (among other formats) |
| 22:36.45 | brlcad | sure, there are some .. can't vouch for their quality .. and they'renot a part of brl-cad |
| 22:36.46 | Darkwell | ok |
| 22:36.56 | Darkwell | I am not familiar with those stuff yet |
| 22:37.19 | Darkwell | I am planning to famliliarize with programs and tools for future educations |
| 22:37.35 | Darkwell | I don't want to waste ,my time in trying to figure how programs work |
| 22:39.05 | brlcad | there is a diagram on the website that sort of shows the CAD markets that brl-cad is currently best-suited towards |
| 22:39.22 | brlcad | http://ftp.brlcad.org/Industry_Diagram.png |
| 22:39.27 | starseeker | aha - OK portage, what were you complaining about... |
| 22:39.30 | Darkwell | ok thank you |
| 22:40.06 | brlcad | Darkwell: as the diagram (hopefully) shows you, we are heavy into the CAE aspects of CAD, and only partially overlap into CADD and MCAD domains |
| 22:40.25 | brlcad | that overlaps basically amounts to our general solid modeling and data representation support as well as rendering and visualization |
| 22:40.54 | Darkwell | ok |
| 22:41.02 | Darkwell | that isnt bad at all |
| 22:41.15 | brlcad | validation of models, CSG support, supporting analysis and development |
| 22:41.31 | Darkwell | if I get this right , it means I can draw objects in brlcad to see what tthey would look like |
| 22:41.45 | brlcad | but not really much support for direct ties into manufacturing and design processes, especially concept work |
| 22:41.55 | brlcad | yeah, sure |
| 22:41.58 | Darkwell | ok |
| 22:42.11 | starseeker | showshot.c:98: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function strcpy |
| 22:42.29 | starseeker | showshot.c:122: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function strlen |
| 22:42.34 | brlcad | but not easily using a 2D drafting, ala AutoCAD (it encompases the CADD domain) .. you'd be using 3D methods |
| 22:42.48 | starseeker | coswin.c:104: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function malloc |
| 22:42.57 | brlcad | starseeker: just missing #include <string.h> |
| 22:43.05 | starseeker | Ah, OK |
| 22:43.28 | Darkwell | ok |
| 22:43.37 | Darkwell | so its 3d |
| 22:43.44 | brlcad | oh yeah |
| 22:43.47 | brlcad | 3d solid modeling |
| 22:44.21 | brlcad | akin to the catia, unigraphics, pro/e markets, but with much much MUCH smaller development budget ;) |
| 22:44.51 | Darkwell | ok |
| 22:45.07 | brlcad | here's a screenshot: http://brlcad.org/images/mged.jpg |
| 22:45.45 | Darkwell | looks like some kind of raytracer |
| 22:45.53 | brlcad | basic (big) tutorial on learning the modeler: http://ftp.brlcad.org/VolumeII-Introduction_to_MGED.pdf |
| 22:46.17 | brlcad | examples of some brl-cad models generated: http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=105292 |
| 22:47.14 | Darkwell | hmm |
| 22:47.36 | Darkwell | interesting |
| 22:48.07 | Darkwell | I think understand what you mean now |
| 22:48.12 | brlcad | brl-cad has one of the very first ray-tracers ever written |
| 22:48.23 | brlcad | the package is more than 20 years under active development |
| 22:48.42 | Z80-Boy | brlcad: oldskool! |
| 22:48.43 | Darkwell | so its not really used for design and bluepringint of stuff I want to produce ? |
| 22:49.09 | Z80-Boy | Darkwell: do you work in an architecture bureau? |
| 22:49.15 | Darkwell | wrote a raytracer once in amige 500 :) |
| 22:49.19 | brlcad | we went open source about 2.5 years ago, so we're just getting ramped up as OSS to make it more usable |
| 22:49.34 | Darkwell | ok |
| 22:49.55 | brlcad | Darkwell: brl-cad's was the *first* distributed/parallel raytracer (back in '83 iirc) |
| 22:50.21 | Darkwell | Z80-Boy: no I am not, still I need cad cam stuff to be able to design objects that I am going to build |
| 22:50.35 | Z80-Boy | brlcad: did it run on Cray? |
| 22:50.41 | brlcad | Darkwell: and to answer your question, no -- not strongly suited to design and blueprints, though that is an area actively being worked on to support |
| 22:50.41 | Darkwell | and I am soon going to get an education learning to handla cnc machines welding etc |
| 22:50.59 | Darkwell | then I want to master the computer tools already |
| 22:51.03 | brlcad | there is some support for it via hidden line renderings, but sans dimensioning: e.g. http://brlcad.org/images/havoc_rtedge.png |
| 22:51.13 | Z80-Boy | Darkwell: do you do it commercially or hobby? |
| 22:51.38 | Darkwell | both |
| 22:51.55 | Darkwell | i�ll work as a tool maker when finished the education |
| 22:52.14 | Darkwell | as of now I am just a handyman |
| 22:52.15 | Darkwell | ll |
| 22:52.17 | Darkwell | lol |
| 22:52.37 | Darkwell | well I think brlcad looks nice |
| 22:53.35 | Darkwell | let me check what the proper english name for the job is |
| 22:56.51 | Z80-Boy | How do I make rtxray produce white background instead of black? |
| 22:56.57 | Z80-Boy | An xray doesn't look like this |
| 22:59.22 | brlcad | -W |
| 23:00.26 | Z80-Boy | It's not written in the output of rtxray without parameters |
| 23:01.18 | Z80-Boy | And it doesn't work |
| 23:01.22 | Z80-Boy | As if it weren't there |
| 23:07.08 | Z80-Boy | brlcad: -w also doesn't work |
| 23:07.14 | Z80-Boy | refuses to start |
| 23:07.44 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.24 | Z80-Boy | Giving negative -A also doesn't help |
| 23:08.27 | Z80-Boy | just produces white |
| 23:08.50 | Z80-Boy | but otherwise it looks cool |
| 23:09.07 | Z80-Boy | going to sleep night |
| 23:14.53 | ``Erik | wow, a new shock site, and this one is... brutal |
| 23:15.48 | Darkwell | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_and_die_maker <---- think I was right about the english name anyways |
| 23:38.38 | Darkwell | hmm gcam wasnt treally useful |
| 23:38.55 | Darkwell | several bugs in the windows build |
| 23:40.08 | louipc | report them! |
| 23:41.37 | ``Erik | yeah, how can twingy fix them if he doesn't have people telling him where the problems are? last I heard, he was mostly fbsd |
