00:00.03 |
starseeker |
This might be interesting, but I'm not sure
what they mean by "code": http://www.hep.net/ssc/new/codes.html |
00:00.20 |
starseeker |
Probably software |
00:01.51 |
starseeker |
Hmm - wonder if Brookhaven ever posted it
anywhere... |
00:03.07 |
starseeker |
Not that there'd be too much point in modeling
an non-existent collider in a CAD system anyway - the Tevatron
might be fun but so far I can't scare up the blueprints from their
website |
00:09.47 |
starseeker |
Humph. Web page is at BNL, but not updated
since 1995 apparently. |
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00:37.02 |
IriX64 |
navigate by stars man :) |
00:38.41 |
starseeker |
That would probably work better ;-) |
00:38.53 |
IriX64 |
for certain :) |
00:39.38 |
IriX64 |
might have to pay for it |
00:39.54 |
starseeker |
Up front, possibly. |
00:41.20 |
IriX64 |
probable |
00:42.37 |
starseeker |
Plus, in some ways the Apollo achievements are
to our civilization what the Pyramids were to ancient Egypt - human
achievement on a grand scale |
00:43.31 |
starseeker |
The details of how that was done (technically
speaking) seem worth preserving |
00:44.08 |
IriX64 |
there are many places to find such info, try
nasa jet propulsion labs |
00:44.35 |
starseeker |
Oh, I know it can be found - this guy has some
of it: http://www.up-ship.com/drawndoc/drawndocspacesaturn.htm |
00:44.52 |
IriX64 |
ok |
00:45.03 |
starseeker |
Unfortunately it sounds like the only
practical way to do it is to wade into the physical archives
themselves and start scanning |
00:45.17 |
starseeker |
and even then, I don't know how much of it
would be approved for public release. |
00:45.22 |
IriX64 |
what are you trying to acomplish |
00:45.46 |
starseeker |
Well, the idea would be to fully document the
technical details of the Apollo system |
00:46.13 |
starseeker |
In other words, to collect on a website all
the information future generations would need in order to build
their own ;-) |
00:46.48 |
IriX64 |
one would hope they would be capable of
building something better :) |
00:47.44 |
starseeker |
Oh, sure. But it's sort of like how we like
figuring out how they built the pyramids - considering we can't
figure that out real well and it's just a bunch of rocks piled real
high, I'd think putting a man on the moon would be a little bit
more difficult in retrospect ;-) |
00:49.09 |
starseeker |
It's probably just my own odd
curiosities |
00:49.13 |
IriX64 |
depends on whose point of view you take, to
those building the pyramids it probably was quite difficult
:) |
00:49.44 |
starseeker |
Agreed :-). But I'd rather try that from
scratch with no technological base than try putting someone on the
moon. |
00:50.46 |
IriX64 |
true, all knowledge is usefull, so you want to
document it true? |
00:51.17 |
starseeker |
Right :-). I also have the same notions about
computers - how do you go from a bunch of inert metal to a modern
computer? |
00:51.48 |
IriX64 |
quite the projects, good luck :) |
00:51.52 |
starseeker |
hehe |
00:52.01 |
starseeker |
It's more just notions I have than
anything |
00:52.14 |
IriX64 |
notions are good |
00:52.17 |
starseeker |
The scale is extremely large, and I doubt I
will ever have the time to do it |
00:52.36 |
IriX64 |
engage helpfull people in it |
00:52.38 |
starseeker |
Maybe if I'm blessed with good health and
prosperity in retirement |
00:52.50 |
IriX64 |
not that i'm volunteering :) |
00:52.54 |
starseeker |
That would involve finding people as nutty as
I am ;-) |
00:53.07 |
IriX64 |
true :) |
00:54.03 |
starseeker |
Slightly more possible is using Forth to
bootstrap a Lisp environment completely by hand :-). I may try
that someday |
00:56.49 |
starseeker |
and bemusedly notes he'd better get to work on
household chores... |
00:56.59 |
IriX64 |
:) |
01:11.44 |
IriX64 |
7.10.4 tells me i have no X and no GL, 7.8.4
says i have both !?!?!? |
01:13.11 |
louipc |
imagine spending your decades researching so
you can build a robot that will do all your chores for you so you
can spend time doing other things only to realise you've wasted all
your years essentially doing chores (via the robot) |
01:27.05 |
louipc |
I'd like to know how the heck we were able to
make more precise and accurate machinery from less precise/accurate
machinery |
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03:21.05 |
IriX64 |
why won't encarta95 install on vista64
;) |
03:26.52 |
IriX64 |
I can safely say "I can't support you anymore"
to all those people who have my old 8 and 16 bit
software: |
03:28.25 |
IriX64 |
) |
03:33.45 |
IriX64 |
blah... watcom 10.6a installed, now i have to
convert all that 8 and 16 bit schtuff to 32 bit :( |
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07:13.34 |
brlcad |
minute-ssh: I saw the bus error, what were you
doing that caused it? is it reproducible and accessible from the
web server or was it something you were running on the command
line? |
07:15.42 |
brlcad |
starseeker: the intent wouldn't be to replace
implicit evaluation with nurbs evals (though you could) -- there
are plenty of comparisons that we can/would do to make sure that
it's working, but it's already pretty well understood that it'd be
slower (nurbs evaluation is naturally about an order
slower) |
07:19.55 |
brlcad |
those BNL codes don't seem particularly
interesting to me other than noting the four written by Reshetov
probably long before he got into ray tracing |
08:00.38 |
brlcad |
ahh, intaval |
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09:33.13 |
CIA-27 |
BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * 10brlcad/ (14 files in
3 dirs): initial checkin of TNO's/IABG's INTAVAL to BRL-CAD
converter |
09:39.42 |
brlcad |
hello d_rossberg |
09:40.07 |
d_rossberg |
hi brlcad |
09:41.05 |
brlcad |
glad to see the converter in, looks good at a
glance |
09:41.53 |
brlcad |
was that developed by multiple
people? |
09:41.59 |
d_rossberg |
i hope so, i could not test the Linux build
(autogen is missing some Makefile.in) |
09:42.52 |
brlcad |
autogen.sh is probably complaining because
intaval wasn't added to configure.ac ;) |
09:43.04 |
d_rossberg |
yes, the base was developed by TNO, and i aded
some new primitives (it should be complete now) |
09:43.10 |
brlcad |
ah, you did add it |
09:43.13 |
brlcad |
hm |
09:43.27 |
brlcad |
anyone specific at tno? |
09:43.40 |
brlcad |
or several folks? |
09:43.45 |
d_rossberg |
autogen was complaining about
misc/debian |
09:43.45 |
brlcad |
just curious |
09:44.24 |
brlcad |
ah, have you done a update -dP in a
while? |
09:44.50 |
brlcad |
have to run that from time to time to pick up
new dirs that are added |
09:45.05 |
d_rossberg |
because of TNO: i'm not shure, but i think Wim
has something to do with it |
09:45.29 |
brlcad |
would have expected wim :) |
09:45.39 |
brlcad |
haven't interacted with them in a
while |
09:46.16 |
d_rossberg |
update dP: on Windows always but not on Linux
:-{ |
09:47.00 |
d_rossberg |
TNO is very interested in interacting with the
BRL-CAD people |
09:52.32 |
CIA-27 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac:
intaval/Makefile |
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10:05.04 |
brlcad |
seems to be going ok so far, have to fix an
include path issue (our problem in configure.ac) |
10:06.40 |
CIA-27 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac:
search the opennurbs dir for header files, it's required when
compiling c++ sources that use rtgeom.h (which uses brep.h, which
requires opennurbs.h) |
10:07.36 |
d_rossberg |
with update -dP automake runs much better
... |
10:13.09 |
brlcad |
you'll probably want that last commit too,
include path addition |
10:13.33 |
CIA-27 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad *
10brlcad/src/other/intaval/Makefile.am: ah, blasted automake (or my
assumptions of it). just include the opennurbs cppflags here since
c++ files are still in the minority. |
10:13.36 |
brlcad |
just built fine for me here and runs (mac os
x) |
10:14.49 |
brlcad |
what do "dra" and "tgf" stand for? |
10:16.43 |
CIA-27 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac:
don't make up var names, just comment it out for now. as more C++
is integrated, it can be made default |
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CIA-27 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: new tgf-g
INTAVAL importer |
10:22.14 |
brlcad |
d_rossberg: if you have names of specific
people to credit in the news file, please let me know -- i.e.
others besides you and Wim |
10:22.36 |
brlcad |
have fun with the canteening .. a bit early
here for that :) |
10:25.56 |
CIA-27 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: add PML to
TNO's name. would preferably reference the developers directly but
don't know yet if there were others coding besides Wim B. and
Daniel R. working on it |
10:26.51 |
brlcad |
d_rossberg: and if you missed the question..
do you know what do "dra" and "tgf" stand for? |
11:24.51 |
d_rossberg |
DRA: Defence Research Agency (established by
UK MoD) |
11:26.02 |
d_rossberg |
TGF: Target Geometry File (it is how they are
calling it) |
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14:04.11 |
``Erik |
um, is that related to tank-kill? |
14:06.40 |
CIA-27 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad *
10brlcad/src/other/intaval/readme.txt: annotate what DRA and TGF
stand for |
14:07.24 |
brlcad |
d_rossberg: thx |
14:08.29 |
brlcad |
undoubtedly "related" .. could even be the
same format which would mean we now have three converters for the
same format that all do something radically different .. |
14:08.56 |
brlcad |
from the look of what daniel added though, the
format is either considerably different or it's a much better
importer |
14:09.38 |
brlcad |
from what I have gathered, intaval is the uk's
version of covart, developed by lockheed martin |
14:09.48 |
``Erik |
if that's the case, someone should do some
test runs and see if the old ones can be links to the new one...
uh, I don't volunteer :D |
14:09.58 |
brlcad |
whereas tankill is the uk's version of
muves |
14:10.22 |
d_rossberg |
brlcad: same to you |
14:10.27 |
``Erik |
if I weren't still hurting from the weekend,
I'd be seriously breaking the repo right now, but I don't wanna
deal with being on the hook to fix it :) |
14:10.28 |
brlcad |
former version at least |
14:10.41 |
Z80-Boy |
``Erik: what did you do on the
weekend? |
14:10.56 |
``Erik |
imbibed. significantly. |
14:11.29 |
``Erik |
:D |
14:11.55 |
``Erik |
and got to be the "tool" in an argument with
an old friend, and too many damn video games |
14:13.25 |
``Erik |
and negotiated a deal to go back to online
dj'ing, I think |
14:14.14 |
``Erik |
this c++ fqa is hilarious, yet so
true |
14:14.30 |
``Erik |
http://yosefk.com/c++fqa/ |
15:05.36 |
d_rossberg |
brlcad: what do you recommend, if building
without opennurbs should cpp sources not include the opennurbs
headers or should OPENNURBS_CPPFLAGS always be set |
15:17.15 |
brlcad |
d_rossberg: did you see my commit earlier
today? |
15:17.31 |
brlcad |
that's what they were for |
15:19.13 |
brlcad |
it should probably always be set since at
least at the moment it's required due to brep.h, but there's also
presently only three instances of C++ application code in the
entire repository .. so it was just as easy to add the
OPENNURBS_CPPFLAGS to the place where it was needed (to intaval's
Makefile..am) |
15:20.34 |
d_rossberg |
brlcad: i saw your comment, but the converter
won't compile |
15:20.35 |
brlcad |
once nurbs/brep support is "complete",
opennurbs will be required so I'd more soon always add it than
conditionally on opennurbs being built |
15:20.57 |
brlcad |
d_rossberg: you sure about that? .. are you
up to date? |
15:21.12 |
brlcad |
06:13 < CIA-27> BRL-CAD: brlcad *
brlcad/src/other/intaval/Makefile.am: ah, blasted automake (or my
assumptions of it). just include the opennurbs cppflags here since
c++ files are still in the minority. |
15:21.48 |
brlcad |
I built and ran successfully on mac os x
already after that fix |
15:22.37 |
d_rossberg |
i'm afraid OPENNURBS_CPPFLAGS won't help if
they are empty |
15:22.46 |
brlcad |
ooooh |
15:22.49 |
brlcad |
you turn it off |
15:23.11 |
brlcad |
yeah, that's nfg then :) |
15:23.22 |
d_rossberg |
on the other side, there is a define
WITH_OPENNURBS which could be used in brep.h |
15:23.24 |
brlcad |
OPENNURBS_CPPFLAGS should always be
set |
15:23.58 |
brlcad |
though if someone wanted a system opennurbs,
the flags would be different |
15:24.50 |
brlcad |
WITH_OPENNURBS is an automake conditional, not
a define .. you'd have to add a define for it |
15:26.37 |
brlcad |
and that's the one that will eventually go
away when the implementation is complete so that nurbs/brep support
is consistently available in the core |
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BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * 10brlcad/configure.ac:
always set the path to the openNURBS headers (C++) |
15:30.39 |
brlcad |
yeah, that'll work for the time being, until
there's a --with flag for pointing to a system-installed opennurbs
or until we make too many mods that it has to build
custom |
15:37.24 |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/BUGS: apparently
not yet annotated, so make a note of the stupid unable to find
brl-cad message when rt encounters a shader it doesn't recognize.
the dynamic shader loading code has some bad juju in it. |
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ewilhelm |
hi all |
19:12.00 |
ewilhelm |
I'm getting errors trying to build cvs from
source on Debian Etch (gcc 4.1 and/or 3.4) |
19:12.20 |
ewilhelm |
libtool: link: cannot find the library
`../../../src/libwdb/libwdb.la |
19:14.37 |
ewilhelm |
is this an issue with CVS today or something
on my end? |
19:17.24 |
ewilhelm |
it appears to be something of a failed make
dependency detection |
19:22.50 |
ewilhelm |
hmm, manually stepping through the failing
directories leads me to a libtcl-8.5 error |
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ewilhelm |
ugh, I just did cd tcl and tk and ran make
install and then popd'd back through the stack of failing dirs and
`make` was fine |
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19:50.03 |
illethal |
Hello.. |
19:53.46 |
ewilhelm |
hi |
19:54.15 |
illethal |
I havn't used BRL-CAD yet. I have a few
questions maybe someone can answer? |
19:55.08 |
ewilhelm |
maybe -- at the moment I'm trying to figure
out why cvs won't build from gcc-4.1 |
19:55.20 |
ewilhelm |
so, I might not be the best source of info
:-D |
19:55.27 |
illethal |
Haha. |
19:55.31 |
illethal |
I get ya, Linux. |
19:56.02 |
ewilhelm |
seems to be mostly a make problem |
19:56.21 |
illethal |
What distro are you on? |
19:56.37 |
ewilhelm |
Debian Etch |
19:56.48 |
illethal |
Ah k. |
19:57.08 |
ewilhelm |
seems to be working, but a ridiculous amount
of manual cd && make stuff |
19:58.03 |
illethal |
That's what makes Linux fun. |
19:58.19 |
ewilhelm |
nah, aptitude is what makes it fun |
19:58.23 |
illethal |
Lmao |
19:58.34 |
illethal |
Yeah, synaptic is by far my favorite package
manager I've used. |
19:58.57 |
illethal |
Does BRL-CAD have a GUI? |
19:59.04 |
ewilhelm |
yep |
19:59.08 |
illethal |
Or do you have to like make all the geo with
math |
19:59.13 |
illethal |
K awesome. |
19:59.17 |
ewilhelm |
that too though |
19:59.28 |
illethal |
Ahhh, I've never done that before. |
19:59.40 |
illethal |
I've been playing around with 3D on my own for
a few years, but not CAD. |
19:59.45 |
ewilhelm |
last I played with it, the command-line was
much better at constructing geometry than the mouse |
20:00.10 |
ewilhelm |
its a "shell" (ala autocad's command-line)
within the mged gui app |
20:00.17 |
illethal |
I probably won't be able to figure out how to
use it, but it seems badass. |
20:00.32 |
ewilhelm |
so, it is interactive -- rather than a sort of
batch CLI app |
20:00.46 |
illethal |
I see. |
20:00.49 |
ewilhelm |
you might want to try it -- I haven't updated
for a few years |
20:00.58 |
illethal |
So you can also edit the object from the GUI,
but you have to make it from the CLI? |
20:01.25 |
ewilhelm |
you can use the mouse, it just might be
limited in expressiveness in some areas |
20:01.36 |
illethal |
Ah. |
20:03.21 |
illethal |
Will it work on Vista 64bits you
think? |
20:03.36 |
illethal |
Not very many programs do lol |
20:03.51 |
ewilhelm |
it has a Tk gui, so maybe |
20:04.07 |
ewilhelm |
iirc, there are binaries on the sourceforge
page |
20:04.32 |
illethal |
Hmm, no installer? |
20:04.46 |
illethal |
I think I'm too noob to use BRL-CAD,
=| |
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20:13.50 |
brlcad |
howdy ewilhelm |
20:14.53 |
brlcad |
did you do a parallel -j build? I've ran into
issues with that several times in the past where a failure gets
through and the build tries to continue, not stopping when it
should |
20:15.52 |
brlcad |
other automake/libtool bugs on nfs filesystems
too |
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ewilhelm |
brlcad: yep -j 16 |
20:24.54 |
dtidrow_work |
16? yikes |
20:25.02 |
ewilhelm |
distcc :-D |
20:25.06 |
ewilhelm |
is there a pastebot? |
20:25.08 |
dtidrow_work |
ah |
20:25.36 |
dtidrow_work |
so you basically have a 'compile
farm'? |
20:26.11 |
ewilhelm |
brlcad: here's roughly what I ended-up
doing |
20:26.13 |
ewilhelm |
<PROTECTED> |
20:27.15 |
ewilhelm |
the tcl (and maybe tk) had to be installed or
I would get libtcl8.5.so |
20:27.23 |
ewilhelm |
... errors |
20:28.14 |
ewilhelm |
then the pushd was all just a matter of
stepping through the src/libbu src/libbn src/librt
src/libwdb |
20:28.29 |
ewilhelm |
plus a stop-off at libsysv on the way
back |
20:30.05 |
ewilhelm |
then I had to make install in src/other before
src/ would work |
20:30.18 |
ewilhelm |
and make install src before $top would
make |
20:30.46 |
ewilhelm |
it seems like it that last bit (and tcl) was
more an LDFLAGS issue |
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ewilhelm |
brlcad: anyhow, it all got built and mged
works |
20:35.51 |
ewilhelm |
but I can't "zoom all" on my converted stl --
shouldn't `reset` do that? |
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ewilhelm |
ah -- 'draw all' |
21:01.07 |
brlcad |
~bzpaste |
21:01.10 |
brlcad |
~bzpastebin |
21:01.11 |
ibot |
i guess bzpastebin is http://pastebin.bzflag.bz a place
to put large chunks of text to not flood a channel |
21:01.26 |
brlcad |
just fyi future ref |
21:01.32 |
brlcad |
or this |
21:01.34 |
brlcad |
~pastebin |
21:01.34 |
ibot |
rumour has it, pastebin is a place to paste
your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste,
or http://rafb.net/paste/, or
http://pastebin.com is usually
painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other
pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as
well |
21:01.38 |
brlcad |
but no bot |
21:02.02 |
ewilhelm |
is there a shaded view mode? |
21:02.09 |
brlcad |
almost guaranteed, the parallel build is what
caused the need for multiple passes to get past the build
error |
21:02.23 |
ewilhelm |
i.e. without needing to raytrace |
21:02.35 |
brlcad |
there is |
21:02.38 |
brlcad |
it sucks |
21:02.51 |
brlcad |
that's some of the stuff we're working on, it
gets to core representation issues |
21:03.02 |
brlcad |
part of the brep/nurbs work, multiple
representations |
21:03.08 |
ewilhelm |
not opengl ? |
21:03.16 |
brlcad |
so we can go back and forth between explicit
and implicit reps |
21:04.10 |
brlcad |
opengl is an explicit geometric
representation, brl-cad historically has only dealt with implicit
mathematical representations -- provides greater accuracy,
compactness, efficiency, few other benefits |
21:04.22 |
brlcad |
but going from implicit to explicit is very
non-trivial |
21:04.52 |
brlcad |
so just getting "polygons" out of an implicit
rep reliably and quickly is actually a pretty tricky feat |
21:05.13 |
ewilhelm |
yep |
21:05.14 |
brlcad |
and opengl *only* deals with explicit
polygonal representation formats |
21:05.22 |
brlcad |
er, s/polygonal// |
21:05.32 |
brlcad |
it does deal with a few explicit spline
surface formats |
21:05.37 |
brlcad |
but no implicit formats |
21:06.12 |
ewilhelm |
iirc, autocad maintains a dual list of
objects<->polygons in the view pipeline |
21:07.21 |
brlcad |
ewilhelm: iirc, going back to some talks over
a year ago, you might be interested to know that I finally did get
all of the STEP APs scanned and OCR'd :-) |
21:07.46 |
ewilhelm |
neat -- wasn't a year ago at this point though
:-D |
21:07.47 |
brlcad |
autocad deals internally with explicit
formats, spline surfaces |
21:07.58 |
brlcad |
it's dual-rep is explicit spline to explicit
poly |
21:08.04 |
brlcad |
which is pretty trivial ;) |
21:08.23 |
ewilhelm |
isn't the CSG in autocad "implicit
mathematical"? |
21:08.44 |
brlcad |
the operations are performed on
explicits |
21:08.51 |
brlcad |
brb |
21:18.35 |
brlcad |
I'm in and out, but to your question -- yes
CSG operations are implicit (by their very nature), but they're
applying implicit operators to an explicit geometry
representation |
21:18.59 |
brlcad |
that's rather different from applying implicit
operators to implicit geometry -- there is no evaluated
form |
21:19.59 |
ewilhelm |
ah, ok |
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22:32.04 |
minute-ssh |
brlcad: It was something I was running from
the command line. And it is fully reproducable. |
22:32.29 |
minute-ssh |
Right now I am having internet trouble, hence
why I am using SSH IRC as opposed to home IRC. So I might not
respond. |
22:32.36 |
brlcad |
ok |
22:32.56 |
minute-ssh |
brlcad: Do you need any more info? |
22:33.06 |
brlcad |
yeah, what do you want me to do about it?
:) |
22:33.16 |
brlcad |
sounds like a php bug :) |
22:33.19 |
minute-ssh |
Oh, ok. |
22:33.36 |
brlcad |
i can see if there's an update in
ports |
22:33.49 |
brlcad |
i mean php crashing is definitely a php
bug |
22:33.52 |
minute-ssh |
Juding from the response of ##php they
suggested it was a bug in your executable. Non-essential, I will
file a PHP bu report. |
22:33.53 |
brlcad |
do you know what causes it? |
22:34.14 |
brlcad |
that sounds like their way saying "that php
binary is buggy" |
22:34.20 |
brlcad |
which is a bug in php |
22:34.29 |
brlcad |
just that it might be fixed in a newer
version |
22:34.48 |
minute-ssh |
I haven't tracked down the exact cause, but I
have tracked it down to my custom MySQL class. |
22:35.37 |
brlcad |
you could download/compile php and see if
their latest sources still have the problem |
22:36.35 |
brlcad |
we're on 5.2.1 at the moment, latest in ports
seems to be 5.2.3 |
22:37.22 |
brlcad |
I do really hate changing php unless there's a
pressing need (you needing it would be a good enough reason,
though) |
22:38.03 |
brlcad |
because it impacts the web install with apache
and mod_php .. if the compilation flags aren't right, things can
get wonky |
22:45.35 |
minute-ssh |
ok |
22:45.35 |
minute-ssh |
dw |
22:46.17 |
minute-ssh |
It is non-essential. |
22:52.39 |
minute-ssh |
I was doing it yesterday, but got
sidetracked. |
22:53.06 |
minute-ssh |
It is late here now and I have to be getting
on with something, so I will check it out more tomorrow. |