| 00:00.54 | brlcad | louipc: yeah, blt is kinda stale |
| 00:01.11 | brlcad | but it was (apparently) really easy way to get pretty shiny buttons in tcl that looked modern |
| 00:05.21 | louipc | we had shiny things back then |
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| 02:12.09 | starseeker | grr. Anybody in here with an AMD64 system running Gentoo? |
| 02:58.04 | yukonbob | starseeker: hey :) |
| 03:10.33 | starseeker | howdy :-) |
| 03:18.09 | yukonbob | what's shaking? Hows the Gentoo? |
| 03:30.53 | Maloeran | starseeker, I do |
| 05:04.56 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/geometree/GeometryBrowser.tcl: go ahead and have it use draw instead of e so it's clear what's going on to new users |
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| 05:28.24 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: let tcl and tk know where they're coming from, and don't cache the results of tclConfig.sh or tkConfig.sh so that Tcl's subconfigure will detect properly itself when we're compiling tcl/tk |
| 05:31.29 | yukonbob | brlcad: how long have you been using autoconf et al. |
| 05:31.30 | yukonbob | ? |
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| 07:49.26 | DEFCON_ | morning all |
| 07:49.33 | DEFCON_ | happy hacking today |
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| 12:45.42 | starseeker | yukonbob: Heh, sorry - playing IRC tag |
| 12:47.04 | starseeker | Maloeran: Great! Do you think you could do me a favor and see if the latest ebuild works on AMD64 now that I've got the eclass included? http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77197 |
| 13:34.50 | brlcad | yukonbob: as a user or a developer? |
| 13:36.52 | brlcad | as a dev, seven years or so I suppose |
| 13:37.00 | brlcad | as a user, much longer |
| 13:43.06 | alex_joni | http://xkcd.com/353/ |
| 13:45.00 | DEFCON_ | lol :) |
| 13:45.13 | DEFCON_ | import Milionair .. |
| 13:45.22 | ``Erik | looks like I got deep into autoconf in '98 |
| 13:48.36 | alex_joni | DEFCON_: ImportError: No module named Milionair |
| 13:48.38 | alex_joni | >>> |
| 13:59.29 | DEFCON_ | bummer :( |
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| 15:06.04 | ``Erik | heh |
| 15:06.13 | ``Erik | so we can start up the 7.12.0 release? :D |
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| 15:34.24 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/libtienet/ (8 files): upgrade to the updated version |
| 15:34.52 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/Makefile.am: always build libtienet |
| 15:39.01 | *** topic/#brlcad by brlcad -> BRL-CAD Open Source Solid Modeling || http://brlcad.org || http://sf.net/projects/brlcad || Channel logs at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/ || BRL-CAD is on scan.coverity.com but still offline || Release 7.12.0 coming soon to a desktop near you | |
| 16:02.55 | DEFCON_ | cyyaaa |
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| 16:45.16 | brlcad | ``Erik: += doesn't work reliably with pre automake 1.8 (and 1.6 is the min baseline) |
| 16:45.27 | ``Erik | bleh |
| 16:45.28 | brlcad | that's why it's not used anywhere |
| 16:45.44 | ``Erik | I'll back it out on my next change to that file |
| 16:46.07 | ``Erik | apple should get their ass in gear so we can give up that archaic version |
| 16:46.35 | brlcad | 10.5 updates it to 1.10 |
| 16:47.25 | brlcad | I had a thread on the apple mailing list about it, they apparently couldn't update the version before a major update |
| 16:47.44 | ``Erik | then they shoulda updated it with, like, 10.2 O.o :D |
| 16:47.59 | brlcad | because the autotools were shipped as part of the base OS, not part of the dev tools |
| 16:48.11 | brlcad | with 10.5, they supposedly broke them out proper |
| 16:49.06 | brlcad | they coulda, but it was only like 1.7 when 10.2 came out, and it'd "just" released |
| 16:50.14 | brlcad | so when it was dire (by 10.4 release), they couldn't do anything about it until the next major |
| 16:50.39 | brlcad | pretty stupid, but there it is |
| 16:54.08 | ``Erik | *shrug* autotools version is a burden entirely on the developers, do you choose fugly automake files, or make the developer upgrade automake... I personally favor the latter :D |
| 16:54.13 | ``Erik | are you in today? |
| 16:56.11 | ``Erik | aight |
| 16:58.51 | brlcad | so long as you cross-platform test it and it behaves when sdl/python aren't installed |
| 16:59.04 | ``Erik | ayup, I'm working on the SDL/python bit right now |
| 16:59.24 | brlcad | there is some testing in there already "does it work" |
| 16:59.47 | brlcad | even better would be to rip out the python part and change the sdl part to libdm :) |
| 17:01.11 | ``Erik | is libdm fast enough? heh |
| 17:02.14 | ``Erik | and does it handle key and mouse events? O.o |
| 17:04.18 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/configure.ac: AC_DEFINEs for python and SDL |
| 17:17.46 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/Makefile.am: add libutil to the "always compile" list. Back out the += for those using automake 1.6. |
| 17:18.58 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/libutil/ (display.c display.h): workaround for lack of SDL |
| 17:20.11 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/libutil/ (7 files): merge in the updated libutil stuff (introduces capability duplication for now, but no symbol conflicts) |
| 17:25.35 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/libutil/ (6 files): decorate the new sources |
| 17:25.40 | brlcad | fast enough? sure, all dm does is create the context and give hooks for a doing display updates -- doesn't get much lower overhead |
| 17:26.03 | brlcad | libfb is the one that does buffer processing and has a communications overhead for remote displays |
| 17:26.56 | brlcad | dm does the wireframe display in mged, not the raytrace windows |
| 17:39.04 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/libutil/Makefile.am: rename libutil to libtieutil, to avoid any possible confusion |
| 18:12.03 | ``Erik | oh, I started seeing the Entries.backup issue recently |
| 18:12.23 | prasad_ | is it snowing there? |
| 18:12.45 | ``Erik | always with the custom ssh ... never the sf friendly one |
| 18:12.46 | ``Erik | yes |
| 18:12.50 | ``Erik | has been for a couple hours |
| 18:13.06 | ``Erik | starting to stick to the asphault and cement :/ |
| 18:23.05 | prasad_ | flurries since morning here |
| 18:50.45 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/Makefile.am: always build libtexture. Include the new adrt headers |
| 18:51.52 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ (adrt.h adrt_struct.h): Include the new adrt headers |
| 18:53.36 | ``Erik | I thought the phrase was barefoot through ten miles of snow, up hill, both ways |
| 18:53.47 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/libtexture/ (23 files): merge in the updated libtexture stuff |
| 18:55.07 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ (7 files in 7 dirs): reflect the libutil->libtieutil change |
| 19:13.35 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/libutil/ (7 files): remove duplication |
| 19:15.41 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/libtexture/ (9 files): util_math.h -> umath.h |
| 19:36.16 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/libutil/Makefile.am: make a libtool archive, with SDL deps noted |
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| 19:49.11 | docelic | yo hey |
| 19:50.53 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/libutil/umath.h: common.h doesn't seem to be needed |
| 19:52.10 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/bench/Makefile.am: libtieutil is now a libtool archive |
| 19:54.32 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ (6 files in 6 dirs): libtieutil is now a libtool archive |
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| 20:19.50 | brlcad | maybe it's paranoid |
| 20:21.42 | ``Erik | mebbe you should point it at an actual block or character device? :D |
| 20:49.38 | Maloeran | Yes right, I'll burn the CD just so I can extract the music from it... :) |
| 21:05.44 | alex_joni | Maloeran: did you try to loopmount it? |
| 21:24.54 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/librender/ (21 files): merge in updated librender |
| 21:26.29 | yukonbob | ok -- so what's the latest release -- does this new /topic mean that 7.12.0 is tagged/released, and I can start building it? |
| 21:29.04 | ``Erik | no, heh |
| 21:29.21 | yukonbob | hey ``Erik |
| 21:29.31 | ``Erik | 'sup? |
| 21:30.14 | yukonbob | posting SOAP stories for a near-due website, trying to figure out netbsd audio internals, drinking coffee, eating M&Ms -- the usual |
| 21:30.41 | yukonbob | yourself? |
| 21:31.44 | ``Erik | heh, generating a stream of cia messages :D |
| 21:31.52 | yukonbob | I see :) |
| 21:32.34 | yukonbob | so, what's the status of releases here -- is the flurry of posts + the new topic applied to .10, .11(?), or 12 -- what's the latest stable? |
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| 21:40.54 | ``Erik | um, we use odds to annotate a development snapshot and evens for releases |
| 21:41.07 | ``Erik | at least in the minor and patch levels |
| 21:41.27 | ``Erik | like the linux kernel |
| 21:42.07 | ``Erik | the flurry of cia lines I'm generating are not release related, they're in support of an internal project... :) |
| 21:42.26 | ``Erik | which I hope to use as an excuse to get the adrt shtuff usable for joe blow |
| 21:53.27 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/librender/render_internal.h: redefine the plane method |
| 21:53.45 | yukonbob | ``Erik: I've got 7.10.4 installed, is that latest? |
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| 22:01.20 | ``Erik | yes |
| 22:02.19 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ (15 files in 10 dirs): include path shtuff |
| 22:46.24 | PrezKennedy | snow day! |
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| 23:45.55 | ``Erik | I fucking hate snow. |