IRC log for #brlcad on 20080107

01:37.15 brlcad ahh
02:23.07 starseeker ahh?
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05:03.49 Axman6 ahh!
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07:29.43 brlcad ahh. :)
07:44.49 poolio oooooh.
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15:31.44 brlcad now to figure out the apparent svn checkout glitch on cup.g
15:41.34 MinuteElectron Drupal on new BRL-CAD has been taken into off-line mode due to a security breach, I'll bring it back up once I work out how the security breach was able to occur and have cleaned it up.
15:42.13 brlcad eek
15:42.18 brlcad okay, thanks
15:42.23 brlcad what did you notice?
15:43.18 MinuteElectron Some guy e-mailed me saying he could make himself a superuser, so i checked and there are about 5 or 10 superusers when there should only be two.
15:43.32 MinuteElectron I know why, fixing as we speak.
15:45.08 MinuteElectron brlcad: Are you wanting anyone to be able to edit the pages?
15:45.11 Z80-Boy Drupal is the new website?
15:45.21 brlcad please do share why, so I can avoid it elsewhere (perhaps via pm)
15:45.58 brlcad depends which pages
15:45.58 Z80-Boy I had twiki on Ronja and it also security breached, despite the fact I applied the annoyingly complicated security patches they issued
15:45.58 brlcad for most of the drupal page, no not really .. for the wiki, sure
15:45.59 Z80-Boy Then I had mediawiki and it got filled with viagra spam
15:46.56 MinuteElectron I accidentally set up the permissions system so that "authenticated users" could do some of the admin stuff - but since anyone can create an account loads of people became authenticated users and could do what they liked with the settings. So, my fault.
15:47.58 brlcad you've said both those before Z80-Boy .. think you had mediawiki "poorly" configured as I've been spamfree on other hosts for nearly a year now with the right measures in place
15:48.33 Z80-Boy it's a similar type of incident
15:48.37 brlcad ah, so just a misconfiguration
15:48.44 Z80-Boy I mean especially the twiki one
15:48.48 brlcad I wouldn't consider that a security breach
15:48.55 Z80-Boy no the twiki one was configured properly and I applied the right patches
15:49.10 brlcad wasn't referring to you :)
15:49.18 MinuteElectron brlcad: Well, they accesed pages that they shouldn't have access too.
15:49.31 MinuteElectron And someone screwed about with the sidebar a bit.
15:49.37 brlcad sure, not good to have :)
15:49.54 brlcad just no more of a breach than if I add all users to wheel on a server :)
15:50.01 MinuteElectron sure
15:50.03 brlcad just not good :)
15:50.13 brlcad nice of the guy to e-mail though
15:50.33 MinuteElectron brlcad: What is the status of moving the site to live?
15:50.57 brlcad is everything done with the new redesign now?
15:51.06 brlcad wrt ie6
15:52.01 MinuteElectron Yep, everything is good to go except for some forms in the administration pages which have a temporary hack to make them not drop to the bottom of the page - although I'm looking into fixing that.
15:52.21 MinuteElectron oh, and I have to reenable the sidebar following our "misconfiguration".
15:53.18 MinuteElectron Oh, right.
15:53.22 brlcad ooh, nice ... it works better!
15:53.34 MinuteElectron The poll didn't jsut disspaear - you set up a "Poll duration".
15:53.36 MinuteElectron brlcad: :
15:53.38 MinuteElectron :)
15:53.41 brlcad almost flawless, some problems with some of the bezels
15:54.35 MinuteElectron That is because of the alpha transparency flattening thing - there is a solution to that in IE6 w/ JS, but not without. I'll add that to the top of my list.
15:54.52 MinuteElectron Is there anything else of concern preventing the site from going live?
15:54.54 brlcad hrm?
15:54.58 brlcad the header looks perfect
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15:55.06 brlcad search and footer look perfect
15:55.31 MinuteElectron brlcad: I thought you meant bezel as in the header, when you resize the window to very small the overlap is a bit wierd.
15:55.38 MinuteElectron Which bezel are you talking about?
15:55.46 brlcad only the bottom of the rounded boxes in the content area have a problem
15:56.08 MinuteElectron Oh, yeah.
15:56.33 alex_joni MinuteElectron: there's also a small 3D flaw :)
15:56.54 alex_joni the text "OPEN SOURCE SOLID MODELING" is in fron of that cube.. right?
15:57.08 MinuteElectron yes,
15:57.25 brlcad bezel is the rounded edge on the boxes -- there's a bezel on the top menu, the search boxes, the right panel boxes, and the main page's brl-cad description
15:57.27 alex_joni there is some other graphics behind that text and behind the DOWNLOAD link
15:57.37 brlcad all of the bezels are right except for those last two
15:58.04 alex_joni if you resize the browser to very small then the other graphic is in front of the black base the cube sits on
15:58.18 MinuteElectron yeah, ok - I'll increase the minimum width to fix this flaw
15:58.23 Z80-Boy let's model a 3D gym and then get some open source solid muscles
15:58.34 Z80-Boy or we can at least model muscles
15:58.45 alex_joni MinuteElectron: nah, don't worry.. maybe you can put it on another layer?
15:58.53 brlcad MinuteElectron: I think it can be fixed just by layering it underneath the left title
15:59.08 MinuteElectron maybe, I'll look into it
15:59.15 alex_joni imo, it's not a real flaw..
15:59.39 alex_joni but since brlcad is a 3D app.. it might be annoying for CAD freaks :P
16:00.02 brlcad right now it's over, so small windows see the overlap
16:00.22 brlcad i could live with that one -- the bezel error is more disturbing
16:00.34 MinuteElectron ok
16:01.14 PrezKennedy brlcad, whats the uptime on your bz server?
16:02.11 MinuteElectron up 116 days, 12:55
16:02.58 PrezKennedy the best ive managed is 50 on this windows 2003 server before i had to reboot for updates...
16:03.20 MinuteElectron On bz there was once 499 days 10 hours.
16:04.03 PrezKennedy its running freebsd isnt it?
16:04.17 MinuteElectron yep
16:06.23 MinuteElectron Ok, so from what I can see there are two design bugs that need fixing before going live. I'll do these once asap - other than that is there anything else that needs doing?
16:07.36 brlcad PrezKennedy: the "uptime" commmand will tell you ;) but yeah, what ME said for both
16:08.16 PrezKennedy brlcad, i know... after i asked i went and downloaded putty and logged in
16:09.03 brlcad :)
16:09.11 brlcad you want a better ssh client?
16:09.23 brlcad MinuteElectron: http://my.brlcad.org/tmp/bezel.jpg is what I'm seeing
16:09.32 PrezKennedy brlcad, whats the name of it?
16:09.38 PrezKennedy if you say linux i wont be impressed :-P
16:10.12 brlcad only messes up the bottom bezel for the first box, then top and bottom for the next ones .. making me think it might just be an extra open/close tag
16:10.35 brlcad PrezKennedy: heh, no .. the SSH client from SSH Communications
16:10.35 MinuteElectron yeah
16:10.58 brlcad the last free version they provided before they closed it up and made it pay-only
16:11.38 PrezKennedy is it still available on their site or will i have to hunt it down?
16:12.43 brlcad you'll need to uber super secret url
16:12.52 brlcad and the secret handshake
16:14.28 alex_joni brlcad: how is it better then putty?
16:15.47 brlcad mm, hard to describe .. putty is pretty bare bones
16:16.49 brlcad ssh's has a really nice gui with toggles for sftp/ssh, explorer-like interface, session and key management, pretty user-friendly as you can get
16:17.55 brlcad MinuteElectron: heh, a lot of good that did me :)
16:18.18 PrezKennedy i like it
16:18.23 PrezKennedy thanks brlcad :)
16:18.41 brlcad it's good stuff
16:19.04 MinuteElectron brlcad: heh
16:19.47 PrezKennedy when i finally get tired of games altogether ill go linux or mac :P
16:21.06 alex_joni brlcad: do the keys work outside of it?
16:21.13 alex_joni e.g. using ssh keys for cvs
16:24.07 brlcad beats me
16:25.45 brlcad it's a client circa '97 or so, before SSH Communications got all fancy and started tossing in the kitchen sink features and truely seamless explorer integration
16:27.42 brlcad like I said, their last free version they provided .. I just find it useful for those rare times that I'm actually on Windows (but still needing to get off of Windows)
16:29.20 alex_joni I like putty.. especially late versions are great
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17:21.00 poolio brlcad: My school paid for it and I use the new non-free version when not in a unix-based OS :)
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20:23.20 yukonbob hello, cadheads
20:24.23 poolio howdy bob
20:25.29 yukonbob hey poolio :) -- what's shaking?
20:29.17 poolio me. got some sort of disease :)
20:59.20 yukonbob poolio: ?
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22:04.14 poolio brlcad: you around?
22:06.11 brlcad often
22:07.19 brlcad poolio: whatcha need?
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