IRC log for #brlcad on 20080109

00:19.44 iraytrace What does it mean to have a "multiproject"?
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04:40.25 ``Erik bz's blurb is totally stolen from dod reg
04:40.49 ``Erik iirc, it's made available to all free of license issues
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14:43.42 Defcon hey all!!
14:43.54 Defcon have you guys seen this: http://www.acvt.com.au/research/videotrace/
14:44.03 Defcon [www.acvt.com.au] Australian Centre for Visual Technologies | VideoTrace: Rapid interactive scene modelling from video
14:54.10 Defcon brlcad ?
15:11.40 *** join/#brlcad PrezKennedy (i=Matt@74.86.45.130)
15:15.18 ``Erik hummmm, BRL-CAD is on "rung 1" of coverities check stuff, and apparently dept of homeland insecurity is funding testing on foss crap
15:19.50 Defcon insecurity ^^
15:23.21 Z80-Boy ``Erik: what do you mean particularly?
15:23.42 ``Erik http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/09/0027229
15:25.05 alex_joni http://scan.coverity.com/rung1.html
15:25.13 ``Erik ayup, tha'ts where we are
15:25.52 ``Erik I'm assuming the rungs are decided with brackets on bugs per 1k lines, since we include blt which is rung0
15:27.09 Defcon 0.0474 defects per thousand lines of code
15:27.10 ``Erik amusingly, vim has more lines of code than emacs, yet vim has no listed defects... :D
15:27.12 Defcon lol
15:29.17 Z80-Boy So IIRC, BRL-CAD being on rung1 means that Coverity provides a mailing list for security of BRL-CAD.
15:30.41 Z80-Boy IIRC -> IIUIC
15:31.06 ``Erik IICFOTA
15:31.07 ``Erik :D
15:31.09 ``Erik O:-)
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17:36.47 PrezKennedy haha KDE has more lines of code than Linux
18:38.19 brlcad the "178,135 lines of code" in our Rung 1 listing is a dead give-away that something's wrong ;)
18:40.44 brlcad yeah "Coverity Prevent SQS" was the full name, company Coverity, but it is their main/only real product so coverity == prevent for the most part
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18:47.29 brlcad hm, and i'm unable to log into our coverity report .. server must be overloaded :)
19:19.23 ``Erik um, I think there's a port block in the way. I was able to telnet to it from another machine, so I tried running firefox remote X from there and the page came up
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19:32.02 brlcad ahh, true dat, thanks
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20:30.38 PrezKennedy somehow they let port 22 go though :-P
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21:42.15 yukonbob hello, cadheads
21:51.04 brlcad howdy yukonbobbers
21:51.20 yukonbob do de do
21:51.22 yukonbob :)
21:53.05 yukonbob hrmm -- /me just noticed mged doesn't run from his launcher...
21:54.39 yukonbob (dmenu, on dwm)
21:56.59 brlcad mmm
21:57.03 brlcad you made a launcher for it?
22:03.02 yukonbob Alt-P in dwm
22:03.10 yukonbob (and dmenu installed)
22:09.24 brlcad got it
22:09.54 yukonbob brlcad: you a dwm user?
22:10.11 brlcad nope
22:10.21 brlcad used pwm back in the day
22:10.37 brlcad and blackbox/fluxbox
22:10.42 brlcad and windowmaker
22:10.51 yukonbob and now?
22:11.01 brlcad emacs in a console :)
22:11.05 yukonbob heh -- nice
22:11.49 yukonbob better fonts ;)
22:12.01 brlcad otherwise I'm usually on a mac .. but then still emacs in a Terminal 95% of the time i'm not using a browser or photoshop
22:12.59 yukonbob s/emacs/xemacs/ for me, but same thing -- /me saw an emacs WM somewhere a while ago... so you could use elisp/emacs to run X if you wanted to :)
22:14.25 yukonbob if you end up running X, /me can recommend dwm, though -- a few lines of C and that's it -- is mostly used as a tiling manager, but supports floating too -- good keybindings...
22:14.38 brlcad yeah, I saw/tried the new aqua emacs .. it actually really impressed me to the point that I could see returning to windowed emacs
22:14.51 yukonbob nice...
22:14.52 brlcad but I would miss being able to ctrl-z and run command-line stuff
22:14.57 brlcad <PROTECTED>
22:15.17 yukonbob M-! foo
22:15.40 brlcad yeah, not the same :)
22:15.46 brlcad same with sh-mode
22:16.22 yukonbob (if you want multiple shells)
22:17.19 brlcad I more miss command-line editing
22:17.56 brlcad things like tab-completion, reverse edit searches
22:18.27 yukonbob ah -- /me uses !!, !-2, etc, then typical emacs editing, or searches backwards through the buffer ;)
22:27.54 brlcad just not as efficient as tab-tab when doing stuff quick
22:32.23 louipc tab rules
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22:49.00 alex_joni would this be a nice CAD monitor? http://gizmodo.com/341413/alienware-curved-monitor-looks-like-its-from-another-planet
22:49.53 PrezKennedy yay! time to go home!
22:50.43 louipc I'd want a cad monitor that looks like a drafting table
22:51.04 louipc and the table is also the input for drawing
22:52.37 brlcad alex_joni: sure, why not .. but pixel count is usually more important than actual size
22:52.52 brlcad high-density big multiple displays help
22:53.16 brlcad you'd get more bang per buck with one 30" I bet
22:53.26 alex_joni brlcad: yeah, I guess a 9MP monitor is way more usefull.. but that one loked nice
22:55.03 yukonbob louipc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcKqyn-gUbY
22:59.59 louipc YESS
23:02.18 yukonbob louipc: if you're really into it, and have a DIY attitude, there are plans to build things like this on the interweb, and "touchlib", a library (originally Windows, but apparently now ported to Linux) to interpret multitouch.
23:02.47 louipc duude
23:02.57 louipc where?
23:04.05 alex_joni giyf :)
23:04.31 yukonbob alex_joni ++
23:04.43 yukonbob louipc: see "led ir multitouch"
23:04.50 yukonbob louipc: see "led ir multitouch diy"
23:05.56 alex_joni http://www.mortalspaces.com/diytouchpanels/
23:07.08 yukonbob ^--- ya -- that's the one I was looking at few days ago -- seemed like a good way to get up to speed
23:07.33 yukonbob http://www.whitenoiseaudio.com/touchlib/
23:08.15 alex_joni I saw a multitouch table made with some fluid filled plastic bag
23:08.47 yukonbob this stuff is IR-perterbness measurements
23:08.55 alex_joni webcam on the bottom of the table, light from the side, a plastic bag filled with greenish fluid.. when you push the bag it'll change colour
23:09.05 yukonbob ??"perterbness" -- you get the idea...
23:09.20 alex_joni perturbness?
23:09.25 yukonbob hehe
23:09.59 yukonbob measures if/how-much the IR is perterbed by touching the topside of a sandwich with IR light in it...
23:10.10 yukonbob *perturbed
23:10.12 alex_joni right..
23:10.43 alex_joni "Results 1 - 10 of about 36 for perturbness." <- not a real word
23:10.58 yukonbob perturbiousity?
23:11.00 yukonbob ;)
23:11.07 alex_joni "Results 1 - 1 of 1 for perterbness." <- even less
23:11.28 alex_joni Your search - perturbiousity - did not match any documents.
23:11.32 yukonbob !nice
23:11.41 yukonbob google whacking
23:12.02 alex_joni heh
23:14.06 alex_joni http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/b/f/b/bfb83a185b234f232f82573c5dd03303.png
23:33.17 yukonbob cd ~

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