IRC log for #brlcad on 20080114

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01:16.36 louipc http://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad/
01:16.49 louipc hah I was thrown off by the two brlcads
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06:06.59 curious http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minkowski_spacetime
06:07.00 curious ;0
06:07.02 curious :)
06:07.16 curious sometimes one spends shitload time reinventing wheel
06:46.12 louipc curious: you lost me
06:47.08 curious i admit it's messy, i can't find sth simple.
06:47.21 curious or rather complete
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07:42.52 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29897 10/brlcad/trunk/src/util/ (Makefile.am pix-ci.c): remove the obsolete (irix-specific) pix-ci tool for preparing pix files for irix image processing tools
07:47.06 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29898 10/brlcad/trunk/src/util/ (Makefile.am pl-starbase.1 pl-starbase.c): also remove pl-starbase as it requires maintenance, custom headers, and hasn't been enabled (compilation-wise) in many years
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13:57.54 ``Erik a/blah
13:58.01 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r29899 10/brlcad/trunk/include/config_win.h: No longer need HAVE_RANDOM.
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14:36.12 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29900 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/hideline.c: remove the UAH and redstone arsenal source address/phone number, cleanup header
14:36.30 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29901 10/brlcad/trunk/src/util/pl-hpgl.1: remove source
14:51.44 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29902 10/brlcad/trunk/src/util/ttcp.c: return instead of exit in main
14:56.32 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29903 10/brlcad/trunk/include/rtgeom.h: rtgeom uses/requires vmath and bu for typedef decls, so include them
15:06.48 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29904 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (68 files in 12 dirs): extensive bu_exit refactoring with related cleanup on calls to exit and stderr, header cleanup along with way
15:09.28 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29905 10/brlcad/trunk/ (138 files in 138 dirs): remove the .cvsignore files since they are no longer used. the ignore patterns are now svn:ignore properties on the directory and can be edited with propset/propedit.
15:14.17 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29906 10/brlcad/trunk/src/util/ (7 files):
15:14.17 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: remove the various Ikonas writer utilities that have been disabled from
15:14.17 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: compilation (now that they're all updated, ugh) since they require an
15:14.17 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: unspecified header and need maintenance updates. until someone needs them again,
15:14.17 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: they can stay stashed in the bowels of revision history. includes pix-filt-ik,
15:14.19 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: pix-ik, pix-ikr, pix-lowp-ik, pixt-ik.
15:20.58 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29907 10/brlcad/trunk/src/util/Makefile.am: pix-ci.c was removed too
15:28.52 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29908 10/brlcad/trunk/src/util/ (Makefile.am fix_polysolids.c): update fix_polysolids to the new API specs, massive reformat and cleanup, make it compile again. still needs more work so that it's not v4 specific and not just polysolids but any nmg/bot.
15:29.51 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29909 10/brlcad/trunk/src/util/: ignore fix_polysolids
15:32.18 ``Erik I imagine this means that the svn conversion is omfg complete and we're rolling?
15:34.15 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29910 10/brlcad/trunk/sh/tracker.sh:
15:34.15 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: fix a bug where the page layout changed and the tracker type/name was no longer
15:34.15 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: getting extracted correctly, also now extract the submitters description as part
15:34.15 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: of a new COMMENT field in the output. take care to not save more than 1020
15:34.15 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: chars for now.
15:38.16 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29911 10/brlcad/trunk/sh/ (Makefile.am news2tracker.sh):
15:38.16 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: add a new script for generating the same style table as tracker.sh, but
15:38.16 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: extracted from the NEWS file revision history. was written to work with svn
15:38.16 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: commands, pulling the same data as it pertains to sf trackers using the commit
15:38.17 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: history. cross references the annotate revisions per-line with the commit log
15:38.19 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: messages for those lines, and uses the NEWS file's simple format as an
15:38.21 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: assumption for extracting the title and assignees.
15:40.05 brlcad yeah, seems to be properly omfg complete now
15:41.06 brlcad have some interesting numbers on ohloh to sort out before declaring anything final, but looks good to me so far
15:48.23 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29912 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: new tracker tool for NEWS items
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16:02.38 yukonbob "ohloh"?
16:03.55 brlcad http://www.ohloh.net/projects/3996?p=BRL-CAD
16:05.27 brlcad a pretty useful/interesting stats site
16:05.43 brlcad our numbers are doubled right now because it includes both cvs and svn
16:34.36 ``Erik ohno, ohloh!
16:36.04 ``Erik neato, rt_dirbuild failure
16:58.40 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29913 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (553 files in 42 dirs):
16:58.40 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: delintify the ifndef linted RCSid $ variable blocks, i.e., remove them. they're
16:58.40 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: not really useful any more, particularly with svn (or any modern scm for that
16:58.40 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: matter), so we can make the compiler's job just a little bit easier.
17:08.13 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29914 10/brlcad/trunk/ (401 files in 48 dirs): use consistent spacing around the common header inclusion using one and only blank line before and after.
17:10.52 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29915 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/ (5 files in 5 dirs): more common.h consistency
17:17.48 ``Erik does svn obey rcs flags?
17:18.41 Z80-Boy <PROTECTED>
17:23.45 brlcad rcs flags?
17:27.54 brlcad it will expand most rcs variables if that's what you mean, whereas some others become properties
17:28.46 ``Erik ok
17:28.58 alex_joni Z80-Boy: irssi++
17:46.07 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r29916 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/htester.c: RCSid is actually used here
17:50.43 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r29917 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (libpkg/pkg.c librtserver/rtserver.c): RCSid is actually used here
18:04.44 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r29918 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/ (103 files in 103 dirs): Minor cleanup.
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18:59.18 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29919 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libpkg/pkg.c: for debug printing the version, use the (newish) pkg_version() instead
19:00.46 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29920 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librtserver/rtserver.c:
19:00.46 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: similarly, have the service be provided the full version string (if the intent
19:00.46 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: is to parse a date/time/version, there are other/better routines as rt_version()
19:00.46 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: is the human-readable paragraph form, so might need changing)
19:02.12 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29921 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/htester.c: meh, it's a noinst, just kill the (fairly useless) -v option.
19:12.29 ``Erik well poo on you ptbtbtbt
19:14.08 brlcad heh
19:14.35 brlcad if there don't have to be 'exceptions', all the better :)
19:35.06 ``Erik hummmm
19:36.24 ``Erik brlcad, where shold I cram the point evaluation function for the mball prim for the s2 guys? it requires a little info from rtgeom.h, so I was thinking about packing it in there with the struct definition
19:40.49 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r29922 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/g_metaball.c: Initial support for handling different evaluation methods.
19:51.35 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r29923 10/brlcad/trunk/include/rtgeom.h: Prototype for point evaluation function.
19:55.53 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r29924 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/dg_obj.c: Mods affecting use of rt and rtcheck on Windows.
19:59.11 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r29925 10/brlcad/trunk/src/nirt/parse_fmt.c: uos not getting terminated properly.
20:03.01 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r29926 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/dm-wgl.c: Tk_CreateWindowFromPath not properly initializing the TkWindow structure for toplevel windows.
20:08.55 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r29927 10/brlcad/trunk/ (include/rtgeom.h src/librt/g_metaball.c): Add goo factor to metaball primitive (used in metaball and blob evaluation)
20:14.02 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r29928 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libfb/if_wgl.c: Removed call to Sleep() from wgl_do_event(). This was causing a delay in wgl_close(). Uncomment/reactivate a few lines of code in wgl_open().
20:17.07 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r29929 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/setup.c: Initialize dgop->dgo_rtCmdNotify. This function is called by librt when rt and nirt finish.
20:18.12 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r29930 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/ged.c: Mods to get classic mode working on Windows.
20:21.39 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r29931 10/brlcad/trunk/include/raytrace.h: Added dgo_rtCmndNotify member.
20:57.10 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r29932 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libpkg/pkg.c: Minor mods for Windows.
20:59.08 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r29933 10/brlcad/trunk/src/rt/main.c: Mods for Windows (initialize sockets if using a framebuffer).
21:03.48 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r29934 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/isst/ (Makefile.am isst.h isst_struct.h slave/main.c slave/slave.c): remove vestigial headers
21:04.00 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r29935 10/brlcad/trunk/src/fb/ (7 files): Mods to initialize sockets. This is really for Windows (i.e. calls to pkg_init() do nothing unless on Windows).
21:10.42 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r29936 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/rise/ (master/Makefile.am slave/Makefile.am): forcibly disable RISE for now
21:22.31 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r29937 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/slave/ (. main.c main.c slave.c slave.c): hoist the isst master/slave nodes up to adrt's toplevel
21:23.32 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r29938 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/master/ (17 files): hoist the isst master/slave nodes up to adrt's toplevel
21:23.44 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r29939 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: hoist the isst master/slave nodes up to adrt's toplevel
21:24.08 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r29940 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/isst/ (13 files in 4 dirs): hoist the isst master/slave nodes up to adrt's toplevel
21:24.18 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r29941 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/ (Makefile.am doc/ChangeLog): hoist the isst master/slave nodes up to adrt's toplevel
21:42.29 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r29942 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/ged.c: Fix pre-processor mishap.
21:44.57 brlcad whoosh
21:47.41 ``Erik heh
21:47.57 ``Erik bobs getting sick of me running down to his office whining about broken builds, I think
21:50.38 ``Erik ooh, broken in tcl, neat
22:01.26 brlcad mmm.. and now that I've taken so long to verify a mod, I get to deal with the conflicts
22:04.38 ``Erik wait, what's this "verify"? :D *duck*
22:05.11 alex_joni first verify *then* commit?
22:05.17 alex_joni seems all backwards to me :P
22:05.29 brlcad it's where my eyes bleed four a coupld hours reading a diff, knowing there will *still* be something missed :)
22:05.42 ``Erik <-- been there, done that
22:05.59 alex_joni brlcad: is it coloured at least?
22:06.01 ``Erik every time I do sed coding, I go over the diffs before committing
22:07.30 brlcad alex_joni: niet
22:07.37 alex_joni brlcad: ouch
22:07.54 alex_joni no wonder you get bleedy eyes
22:09.26 alex_joni brlcad: I always prefer something like this: http://cvs.linuxcnc.org/cvs/emc2/src/emc/task/emctask.cc.diff?r1=1.4;r2=1.3.6.1;f=h
22:09.41 alex_joni (but of course.. emails are usually plain diff..)
22:10.39 ``Erik some of us don't need crutches O:-) *duck*
22:12.24 brlcad alex_joni: heh, my eyes would still be bleeding
22:12.34 brlcad it's the quantity
22:12.50 ``Erik ahhhh, interesting
22:13.11 ``Erik brlcad, when looking for the included tclConfig.sh, it fails at configure time
22:13.19 ``Erik as it only exists as tclConfig.sh.in
22:13.19 alex_joni the one that marks *safe* things green, and potential problematic stuff red-ish
22:13.20 brlcad only gets tiring because it's thousands (or tens of thousands) of lines
22:13.20 ``Erik is that known?
22:13.33 brlcad yeah, I noticed that a while ago
22:13.56 alex_joni that's a replacement.. right?
22:14.06 ``Erik it's a configure generated substitution dealie
22:14.13 alex_joni there should be an installed tclConfig.sh
22:14.16 ``Erik yes
22:14.22 brlcad yeah, doesn't exist until configure .. yet you're supposed to use it in configure
22:14.39 brlcad alex_joni: this is when building as a sub-configure
22:14.44 brlcad not pre-install
22:14.58 alex_joni brlcad: lost me.. but it doesn't really matter..
22:15.05 alex_joni good you grasp it :P
22:15.07 ``Erik it's a chicken and egg problem
22:15.17 ``Erik it needs to be used in the script that generates it
22:15.35 alex_joni I used to search for tclConfig.sh a while ago, but I searched for the one installed by tcl
22:15.36 ``Erik or a cyclic graph problem, if you wanna go there
22:15.48 alex_joni ``Erik: I get what you're saying..
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22:18.05 ``Erik so now --enable-all gives me "checking for Tcl configuration... configure: WARNING: Can't find Tcl configuration definitions", so I can't do a distcheck, so who knows how bad my directory moving broke stuff :D
22:19.07 brlcad i think our configure can be reworked .. just hadn't got to that issue yet
22:19.20 brlcad plain make dies here in it
22:19.21 brlcad Making all in master
22:19.21 brlcad make[3]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop.
22:19.45 brlcad ahh
22:19.46 ``Erik um, did you autoreconf and re-configure and everything?
22:20.08 ``Erik adrt gets through a full build in both configurations for me, both fbsd and mac
22:20.19 brlcad yeah, was out of sync with the new .am
22:20.24 ``Erik I just wanted the distcheck ok on it
22:20.55 brlcad the second time configure goes through, there should be a tclConfig.sh
22:21.05 ``Erik hum
22:21.11 ``Erik lame
22:21.16 ``Erik but a workaround
22:23.12 brlcad yup
22:23.50 ``Erik ermmmm
22:23.59 ``Erik it doesn't seem to genreate the file if it's not building tcl
22:24.22 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29943 10/brlcad/trunk/HACKING: should use bu_strlcat/bu_strlcpy instad of strn?cat/strn?cpy
22:24.39 brlcad yeah, have to --enable-tcl so it runs tcl's configure
22:24.45 brlcad that's what generates the sh
22:25.12 ``Erik fails with the same message
22:25.13 ``Erik O.o
22:25.14 ``Erik weird
22:25.34 ``Erik wonder if it's because I build out of dir
22:25.50 ``Erik anyways, time to lock up the building, hit the head and cruise home, night kids
22:26.32 brlcad cheers
22:29.23 alex_joni g'night
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23:11.20 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29944 10/brlcad/trunk/ (619 files in 50 dirs):
23:11.20 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: comma space ws consistency, include a space after commas in expressions (e.g.,
23:11.20 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: ', '). applied globally minus a few exceptions where the alignment was
23:11.20 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: signficant to the formatting or on tables where it was used to indicate
23:11.20 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: grouping.

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